President Trump and US politics catchall

[Rinkals]

So what are the chances of an assassination attempt on Biden before next Thursday week?

Trump predicted that Biden would be assassinated in the first few weeks of his Presidency back in October.

[Hal Jordan]

So what are the chances of an assassination attempt on Biden before next Thursday week?

Trump predicted that Biden would be assassinated in the first few weeks of his Presidency back in October.

I think most of the crackpots who would attempt this are currently assisting the FBI with their enquiries.

[Hong Kong]

[Bokkom]

America is back, baby! Bombing brown people in the Middle East again. Getting attacked in Iraq and immediately go over and bomb Syria. LIke 9/11. Getting attacked by Saudi's and then invaded Iraq.

[Lobby]

America is back, baby! Bombing brown people in the Middle East again. Getting attacked in Iraq and immediately go over and bomb Syria. LIke 9/11. Getting attacked by Saudi's and then invaded Iraq.

It’s weird how people behave as if Trump stopped US aggression in the Middle East and elsewhere, when in fact he dropped more bombs at a faster rate than any other President.

In his first year in office the US dropped 44,096 bombs, an average of one every 12 minutes (Bush averaged 8,750 per year a year and Obama averaged 12,500 a year).

He dropped record numbers of bombs in Afghanistan in every year of his office, and in 2019 the US dropped 7,423 bombs in Afghanistan, 8 times as many as were dropped in 2015.

He also bombed Yemen more than any other President, as well as continuing to drop bombs in Iraq, Pakistan, Somalia, Libya and Syria.

[Hal Jordan]

Let's not forget that Eve was created from Adam's rib, making her the first transgender person of all time.

Edit : As the Tweet implied, but I am fucking drunk right now.

[fishfoodie]

Now being reported that the Feds have identified the person they believe was responsible for the death of the Capitol Police Officer.

They're still waiting for a definitive cause of death; but they're working on the theory that the Officer had a reaction the the Bear spray the protestors were using against the Police defending the Capitol.

It might mean the slug doesn't get charged with murder; but you'd hope they still end up getting a sentence that has them dying in prison.

[Rinkals]

America is back, baby! Bombing brown people in the Middle East again. Getting attacked in Iraq and immediately go over and bomb Syria. LIke 9/11. Getting attacked by Saudi's and then invaded Iraq.

It’s weird how people behave as if Trump stopped US aggression in the Middle East and elsewhere, when in fact he dropped more bombs at a faster rate than any other President.

In his first year in office the US dropped 44,096 bombs, an average of one every 12 minutes (Bush averaged 8,750 per year a year and Obama averaged 12,500 a year).

He dropped record numbers of bombs in Afghanistan in every year of his office, and in 2019 the US dropped 7,423 bombs in Afghanistan, 8 times as many as were dropped in 2015.

He also bombed Yemen more than any other President, as well as continuing to drop bombs in Iraq, Pakistan, Somalia, Libya and Syria.

I think you may have misinterpreted Bokkom's post.

As I understand it, the point he was making is that now Trump's undertakings to withdraw from all wars have been reversed by Biden, the World is at infinitely more peril under a non-GOP President.

Trump:- good.
Obama, Clinton, Biden:- evil warmongers.

I'm basing this on his previous posting and the obviously sarcastic tone of the post you are quoting.

[Lobby]

America is back, baby! Bombing brown people in the Middle East again. Getting attacked in Iraq and immediately go over and bomb Syria. LIke 9/11. Getting attacked by Saudi's and then invaded Iraq.

It’s weird how people behave as if Trump stopped US aggression in the Middle East and elsewhere, when in fact he dropped more bombs at a faster rate than any other President.

In his first year in office the US dropped 44,096 bombs, an average of one every 12 minutes (Bush averaged 8,750 per year a year and Obama averaged 12,500 a year).

He dropped record numbers of bombs in Afghanistan in every year of his office, and in 2019 the US dropped 7,423 bombs in Afghanistan, 8 times as many as were dropped in 2015.

He also bombed Yemen more than any other President, as well as continuing to drop bombs in Iraq, Pakistan, Somalia, Libya and Syria.

I think you may have misinterpreted Bokkom's post.

As I understand it, the point he was making is that now Trump's undertakings to withdraw from all wars have been reversed by Biden, the World is at infinitely more peril under a non-GOP President.

Trump:- good.
Obama, Clinton, Biden:- evil warmongers.

I'm basing this on his previous posting and the obviously sarcastic tone of the post you are quoting.

As usual, you have completely misunderstood and misrepresented my post.

I am well aware that Bokkom was trying to make a 'Trump = good post', and was claiming that Biden represents a return to US warmongering.

My point was that, whatever Trump said about withdrawing from all wars, his actions were the complete opposite. There was no let up in the US bombing campaign during Trump's administration, but rather a marked escalation. His supporters' claims that Trump was for peace are completely wrongheaded, and not supported at all by the evidence of his bombing campaigns.

[Bokkom]

You both swinging and missing spectacularly.
Biden - Trump: Like someone said, two wings of the same bird. Just wanted to point that out.
They are all corrupted by their corporate handlers.

[Rinkals]

It’s weird how people behave as if Trump stopped US aggression in the Middle East and elsewhere, when in fact he dropped more bombs at a faster rate than any other President.

In his first year in office the US dropped 44,096 bombs, an average of one every 12 minutes (Bush averaged 8,750 per year a year and Obama averaged 12,500 a year).

He dropped record numbers of bombs in Afghanistan in every year of his office, and in 2019 the US dropped 7,423 bombs in Afghanistan, 8 times as many as were dropped in 2015.

He also bombed Yemen more than any other President, as well as continuing to drop bombs in Iraq, Pakistan, Somalia, Libya and Syria.

I think you may have misinterpreted Bokkom's post.

As I understand it, the point he was making is that now Trump's undertakings to withdraw from all wars have been reversed by Biden, the World is at infinitely more peril under a non-GOP President.

Trump:- good.
Obama, Clinton, Biden:- evil warmongers.

I'm basing this on his previous posting and the obviously sarcastic tone of the post you are quoting.

As usual, you have completely misunderstood and misrepresented my post.

I am well aware that Bokkom was trying to make a 'Trump = good post', and was claiming that Biden represents a return to US warmongering.

My point was that, whatever Trump said about withdrawing from all wars, his actions were the complete opposite. There was no let up in the US bombing campaign during Trump's administration, but rather a marked escalation. His supporters' claims that Trump was for peace are completely wrongheaded, and not supported at all by the evidence of his bombing campaigns.

Sorry.

I thought you were agreeing with the general thrust of his post, but making a distinction about the amount of ordinance dropped.

[Fangle]

It’s weird how people behave as if Trump stopped US aggression in the Middle East and elsewhere, when in fact he dropped more bombs at a faster rate than any other President.

In his first year in office the US dropped 44,096 bombs, an average of one every 12 minutes (Bush averaged 8,750 per year a year and Obama averaged 12,500 a year).

He dropped record numbers of bombs in Afghanistan in every year of his office, and in 2019 the US dropped 7,423 bombs in Afghanistan, 8 times as many as were dropped in 2015.

He also bombed Yemen more than any other President, as well as continuing to drop bombs in Iraq, Pakistan, Somalia, Libya and Syria.

I think you may have misinterpreted Bokkom's post.

As I understand it, the point he was making is that now Trump's undertakings to withdraw from all wars have been reversed by Biden, the World is at infinitely more peril under a non-GOP President.

Trump:- good.
Obama, Clinton, Biden:- evil warmongers.

I'm basing this on his previous posting and the obviously sarcastic tone of the post you are quoting.

As usual, you have completely misunderstood and misrepresented my post.

I am well aware that Bokkom was trying to make a 'Trump = good post', and was claiming that Biden represents a return to US warmongering.

My point was that, whatever Trump said about withdrawing from all wars, his actions were the complete opposite. There was no let up in the US bombing campaign during Trump's administration, but rather a marked escalation. His supporters' claims that Trump was for peace are completely wrongheaded, and not supported at all by the evidence of his bombing campaigns.

His expertise is in misinterpretation. I have given up trying to get my point over with him. I don’t know if it’s deliberate or not, but he tends towards the sanctimonious.

[Rinkals]

You both swinging and missing spectacularly.
Biden - Trump: Like someone said, two wings of the same bird. Just wanted to point that out.
They are all corrupted by their corporate handlers.

Ah yes.

That's roughly what I thought you meant.

The old Trump is bad, but Biden is worse trope. When people make that claim, one suspects that there lurks an element of admiration for Trump behind it, because it is so clearly absolute nonsense.

The idea that Trump and Biden are the same is genuinely risible.

[Rinkals]

Oddly enough, Fangle and I have met and had a reasonably agreeable pint together.

I find it genuinely baffling that he is so aggressively antagonistic.

I harbour no such reciprocal ill will.

[fishfoodie]

Sounds like the SDNY have their first flipper.

The tactic of, "talk; or we'll throw your Sons in Prison"; will work with some people; but it obviously won't work with their main target

The Washington Post reports that Cyrus Vance’s office is “delving deeply into the personal and financial affairs” of Allen Weisselberg, the longtime chief financial officer of the Trump Organization. The questioning is being led by Pomerantz, with the goal of flipping Weisselberg and convincing him to become a witness against Trump.

....

Vance’s focus on Weisselberg has included questions related to two of his adult children, a tactic that could be an effort to increase pressure on the elder Weisselberg. One of Weisselberg’s sons also works for the Trump Organization, where he manages the company’s Central Park ice rinks. Another Weisselberg son works for a company that has extended loans to the Trump Organization

....

They have also asked about a Trump-owned luxury apartment where Weisselberg’s son Barry lived for several years. The exact nature of Vance’s interest in the apartment is not known, but if Barry Weisselberg, who manages Trump’s ice skating rinks, got the apartment rent-free, that might be considered a fringe benefit of his job and subject to income tax. Two people with knowledge of the district attorney’s probe said the team has also been analyzing the finances of the cash-only skating rink where Barry Weisselberg works. At the same time investigators have asked detailed questions about Allen Weisselberg’s financial history and his feelings about Trump, according to people familiar with the investigation.

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In addition to asking questions about Weisselberg’s financial history, lifestyle, and relationship with Trump, investigators have reportedly been focusing on the Trump Parc East building where Weisselberg’s son Barry lived for several years; last year his ex-wife told Bloomberg that they lived there for free, believing at the time that it was a wedding present from Donald and Melania Trump. (IRS rules state that an apartment provided for free by an employer typically is subject to income tax, and a person familiar with the matter told the Post that prosecutors have been analyzing Barry Weisselberg’s tax returns.) Additionally, attorneys from Vance’s office have asked witnesses about more than $270 million in loans made to the Trump Organization by Ladder Capital, which employs Weisselberg’s other son, Jack Weisselberg.

[Fangle]

It wasn’t long ago that I thought that Andrew Cuomo was looking good for a run at the presidency in 2024. How fast things change.

[Hong Kong]

[fishfoodie]

He's wrong though; It's "not pissing off the Shitgibbon; is more important than helping Americans"

[Rinkals]

There have been a rash of postings on how Joe Biden is mentally unfit for President with The Telegraph leading the charge.



Mind you, Trump doesn't look too good either.

[tabascoboy]

US and China trade angry words at high-level Alaska talks

US and Chinese officials have exchanged sharp rebukes in the first high-level talks between the Biden administration and China, taking place in Alaska. Chinese officials accused the US of inciting countries "to attack China", while the US said China had "arrived intent on grandstanding".

Relations between the two superpowers are at their most strained for years.

The US pledged to raise contentious issues such as Beijing's treatment of Uighur Muslims in Xinjiang.

The ill-tempered talks in Anchorage involved Secretary of State Antony Blinken and National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan on the US side, facing off with China's most senior foreign policy official, Yang Jiechi, and foreign minister Wang Yi. However, a US official said the subsequent talks behind closed doors had been "substantive, serious and direct" and ran over the planned two hours.

In a blunt opening statement before the talks in private, Mr Blinken said the US would "discuss our deep concerns with actions by China, including in Xinjiang, Hong Kong, Taiwan, cyber attacks on the United States, economic coercion of our allies".

"Each of these actions threaten the rules-based order that maintains global stability," he said.

In response, Mr Yang accused Washington of using its military might and financial supremacy to suppress other countries. "It abuses so-called notions of national security to obstruct normal trade exchanges, and incite some countries to attack China," he added.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56452471

[Hal Jordan]

The wingnuts and MAGA trash are desperate for Biden to go off his rocker so they can say, "See! We told you all along he was a Trojan horse for Harris!", with all the attendant repulsive implications about her sex, race and views that entails

[Hong Kong]

[Hal Jordan]

I see the official picture of seven old, white men signing off Jim Crow Ver 2.0 in Georgia was taken with a prominent painting of a plantation in the background. Not. Even. Pretending.

[Saint]

I see the official picture of seven old, white men signing off Jim Crow Ver 2.0 in Georgia was taken with a prominent painting of a plantation in the background. Not. Even. Pretending.

Yep. Exactly as RBG predicted. This is the John Roberts court

[Plato’sCave]

Is Mexico going to have to step in to solve the humanitarian crisis on the border?

[fishfoodie]

Well lets see Fox crawl their way thru this river of shit, & be free.

Dominion Voting Systems Files $1.6 Billion Defamation Lawsuit Against Fox News

Dominion Voting Systems has filed a $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit against Fox News, saying the network spread false claims that the voting machine company was involved in voter fraud during the 2020 presidential election.

"Fox sold a false story of election fraud in order to serve its own commercial purposes, severely injuring Dominion in the process," according to the lawsuit filed Friday in Delaware. "If this case does not rise to the level of defamation by a broadcaster, then nothing does."

"Fox endorsed, repeated, and broadcast a series of verifiably false yet devastating lies about Dominion," the complaint says, including claims that the company's software manipulated the results of the 2020 vote.

Now lets look at how the other participants are responding to this case ....

Sidney Powell seeks dismissal of Dominion's $1.3B suit

Sidney Powell, the conservative legal firebrand who helped spearhead President Trump's court challenges to his 2020 defeat, is seeking to throw out a $1.3 billion defamation lawsuit against her from the election technology company Dominion Voting Systems.

In a motion submitted in federal district court in D.C. on Monday, Powell argued through her attorneys that the case should be dismissed because it was filed in the wrong jurisdiction and that the claims she made about Dominion were protected under the First Amendment.

Her attorneys argued that "reasonable people would not accept such statements as fact but view them only as claims that await testing by the courts through the adversary process."

Uh oh .....

Despite the fact that he never provided ANY evidence to back up that claim -- and the fact that courts across the country roundly rejected lawsuits on the matter as specious (at best) -- Trump quite clearly convinced lots and lots of Republicans of his false view.
How many? Try 76% of self-identified Republicans in a new national Quinnipiac University poll. That's the number of Republicans who said they believe there was "widespread fraud in the 2020 election."

Yes, you read that right. Three in every four Republicans in the poll agreed with the idea that there was "widespread" wrongdoing in last November's election.

It seems like either Fox, (and other irrelevant defendants), concludes that 76% of Republicans are certifiable loons; or they concede that they're fucked.

You see; it's very difficult to be the same Network that had, & has polls that measured the effect of the bullshit you were propagating; & simultaneously; try selling the lie to a bunch of Judges; that you are some powerless entity; caught up in the tide of history.

[Plato’sCave]

Rush Limbaugh is dead. People with a soul that functions at even 1% shed not a tear.

Regardless of a differing politic, that’s a shit take.

You are an absolute cunt.

[fishfoodie]

I see the official picture of seven old, white men signing off Jim Crow Ver 2.0 in Georgia was taken with a prominent painting of a plantation in the background. Not. Even. Pretending.

At this point the GOP should just quit the pretense; & go ahead & rename themselves the American Nazi Party.

[sockwithaticket]

Rush Limbaugh is dead. People with a soul that functions at even 1% shed not a tear.

Regardless of a differing politic, that’s a shit take.

You are an absolute cunt.

Nah, Limbaugh was a disgrace of a human being beyond political lines. He mocks people dying of AIDs ffs. Piece of shit the world's better off without.

[Fangle]

Rush Limbaugh is dead. People with a soul that functions at even 1% shed not a tear.

Regardless of a differing politic, that’s a shit take.

You are an absolute cunt.

Nah, Limbaugh was a disgrace of a human being beyond political lines. He mocks people dying of AIDs ffs. Piece of shit the world's better off without.

So you’re a firm believer in the death penalty.

[sockwithaticket]

Regardless of a differing politic, that’s a shit take.

You are an absolute cunt.

Nah, Limbaugh was a disgrace of a human being beyond political lines. He mocks people dying of AIDs ffs. Piece of shit the world's better off without.

So you’re a firm believer in the death penalty.

That's quite the mental leap.

The old Mark Twain quote applies here, "I have never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure".

[Sandstorm]

Regardless of a differing politic, that’s a shit take.

You are an absolute cunt.

Nah, Limbaugh was a disgrace of a human being beyond political lines. He mocks people dying of AIDs ffs. Piece of shit the world's better off without.

So you’re a firm believer in the death penalty.

No, he believes that some deaths are good for the rest of the living.

[Fangle]

I just don’t wish anyone dead. I think of all the personal relationships, the people who love them and who will mourn them. I want them out of sight and that’s all.

[JM2K6]

Some people are a strong net negative to humanity. It's not wrong to cheer their death.

[Fangle]

Some people are a strong net negative to humanity. It's not wrong to cheer their death.

I was very pleased/relieved when Mugabe was removed from office. His death meant nothing to me, though some celebrated.

[fishfoodie]

Matt Gaetz is certainly going the extra mile to show the GOP, that he is the natural successor to #45.

I'm pretty sure that being an convicted felon would exclude him from political office.

Matt Gaetz Is Said to Face Justice Dept. Inquiry Over Sex With an Underage Girl


An inquiry into the Florida congressman was opened in the final months of the Trump administration, people briefed on it said.

Representative Matt Gaetz, Republican of Florida and a close ally of former President Donald J. Trump, is being investigated by the Justice Department over whether he had a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old and paid for her to travel with him, according to three people briefed on the matter.

Investigators are examining whether Mr. Gaetz violated federal sex trafficking laws, the people said. A variety of federal statutes make it illegal to induce someone under 18 to travel over state lines to engage in sex in exchange for money or something of value. The Justice Department regularly prosecutes such cases, and offenders often receive severe sentences.

It was not clear how Mr. Gaetz met the girl, believed to be 17 at the time of encounters about two years ago that investigators are scrutinizing, according to two of the people.

Edit: But I will give him that his timing is impeccable

[Rinkals]

It's almost disappointing not to have Trump around for us to laugh at.

If you type "Trump" into the twitter search function, there are scores of tweets declaring that "Trump is still My President" and "Trump is the greatest President".

One wonders if these are Bots or if Americans really are that thick.

[Hal Jordan]

It's almost disappointing not to have Trump around for us to laugh at.

If you type "Trump" into the twitter search function, there are scores of tweets declaring that "Trump is still My President" and "Trump is the greatest President".

One wonders if these are Bots or if Americans really are that thick.

As Abe Simpson said, "A little from column A, a little from column B."

[Hugo]

Just checking in here - looks like Joe has played a blinder so far - vaccine, infrastructure, common sense gun reform, environment, taxing the ultra rich, corps and such.

Despite his background as a centrist tough-on-crime dem looks like he has evolved and is listening to those on the progressive left.

[fishfoodie]

Just checking in here - looks like Joe has played a blinder so far - vaccine, infrastructure, common sense gun reform, environment, taxing the ultra rich, corps and such.

Despite his background as a centrist tough-on-crime dem looks like he has evolved and is listening to those on the progressive left.

On the downside his rescue dog keeps on biting people ......