COVID-19 in SOUTH AFRICA

[average joe]

It's one thing losing a child to death due to sickness or accident but losing a child not knowing what happened to them, whether they're still alive or dead, where they are, what they're going through. The doubt and feeling of helplessness will be enough to drive me insane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-uxoT9bZE0

I don't even want to think about it...

Its safe to say that until Blake experiences parenthood he just won't understand

And if someone did what he suggest and something bad happened, that parent will immediately be painted as a bad parent on social media. You see it all the time when something like this happens. Why was the door not locked? How can a mother allow that to happen? Why is the kid allowed outside?

[handyman]

You really have matured as a premium poster handy....welcome aboard. Don't forget to get your gourmet introduction dinner from Chilli on your way in. Its time for an Og braai

Why thank you sardyntjie. Always nice to hear that your efforts are appreciated.

[Sards]

It's one thing losing a child to death due to sickness or accident but losing a child not knowing what happened to them, whether they're still alive or dead, where they are, what they're going through. The doubt and feeling of helplessness will be enough to drive me insane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-uxoT9bZE0

I don't even want to think about it...

Its safe to say that until Blake experiences parenthood he just won't understand

And if someone did what he suggest and something bad happened, that parent will immediately be painted as a bad parent on social media. You see it all the time when something like this happens. Why was the door not locked? How can a mother allow that to happen? Why is the kid allowed outside?

Social media is the least of it. My next door neighbor is an alcoholic. It started when he lost his son that was the apple of his eye...he just cannot deal with the guilt of " what if ".

[average joe]

Ja look most parents would probably blame themselves but does society need to be so judgmental. Do we not have an obligation to show compassion? Do we really need to push people over the edge when they need support?

[Sards]

Ja look most parents would probably blame themselves but does society need to be so judgmental. Do we not have an obligation to show compassion? Do we really need to push people over the edge when they need support?

Look he goes on an occasional bender on weekends...gets locked out of home...so the sympathy thing does wear thin...then you remember his pain and get all mushy and soft again.

[Rinkals]

Context regarding Ivermectin.

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article ... dont-know/

Also posted on the main covid fred.

[Blake]

Context regarding Ivermectin.

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article ... dont-know/

Also posted on the main covid fred.

Glad that’s out there now, but I doubt the tin foil types will listen. Another wonder drug exposed as a wonder dud.

[average joe]

I read a bit of that and it seems to be a lot of science mambo jambo of how clinical trials work. Can you tell me in layman's terms if it says anything on whether it works or not?

[Blake]

I read a bit of that and it seems to be a lot of science mambo jambo of how clinical trials work. Can you tell me in layman's terms if it says anything on whether it works or not?

Under clinical trials, Ivermectin doesn't show to work any better than a placebo.

[average joe]

That's good then, if that's what it says. We can now stop investing resources looking into it and move on to more promising things, like perhaps developing a viable vaccine that works for any new variants and maybe get it not to expire so soon.

[Big Nipper]

That's good then, if that's what it says. We can now stop investing resources looking into it and move on to more promising things, like perhaps developing a viable vaccine that works for any new variants and maybe get it not to expire so soon.

I think it is important to note that with mRNA vaccines the expiry date can be pushed forward by the supplier as testing increases. The expiry date is not like that for a pack of pork chops

[average joe]

That's good then, if that's what it says. We can now stop investing resources looking into it and move on to more promising things, like perhaps developing a viable vaccine that works for any new variants and maybe get it not to expire so soon.

I think it is important to note that with mRNA vaccines the expiry date can be pushed forward by the supplier as testing increases. The expiry date is not like that for a pack of pork chops

I don't really care for all that science stuff nipper. As long as a doctor tells me it works and I won't turn into a zombie I'll be fine taking it.

I decided to suffer the brain melt and read through the daily maverick article and it does not say what Blake states it says. It seems to say that it looks promising but that the dosage needed is much higher than what we usually take for other ailments.

So basically all that mind numbing long article told me was that they don't really know anything yet and that they need to perform more test. It does not say anything more than the article I posted previously. Only that article was from sciencedirect and this is from some news paper. So they're still testing it and once the test are done we'll know for sure if it can be used as an effective treatment.

Just to be clear I'm not attempting to downplay the importance of a vaccine but I think we are going to need a viable treatment combined with vaccinations to be able to beat this thing for good.

[Big Nipper]

That's good then, if that's what it says. We can now stop investing resources looking into it and move on to more promising things, like perhaps developing a viable vaccine that works for any new variants and maybe get it not to expire so soon.

I think it is important to note that with mRNA vaccines the expiry date can be pushed forward by the supplier as testing increases. The expiry date is not like that for a pack of pork chops

I don't really care for all that science stuff nipper. As long as a doctor tells me it works and I won't turn into a zombie I'll be fine taking it.

I decided to suffer the brain melt and read through the daily maverick article and it does not say what Blake states it says. It seems to say that it looks promising but that the dosage needed is much higher than what we usually take for other ailments.

So basically all that mind numbing long article told me was that they don't really know anything yet and that they need to perform more test. It does not say anything more than the article I posted previously. Only that article was from sciencedirect and this is from some news paper. So they're still testing it and once the test are done we'll know for sure if it can be used as an effective treatment.

Just to be clear I'm not attempting to downplay the importance of a vaccine but I think we are going to need a viable treatment combined with vaccinations to be able to beat this thing for good.

I hear you loud and clear, I just want to be rid of this kak virus once and for all

[Rinkals]

That's good then, if that's what it says. We can now stop investing resources looking into it and move on to more promising things, like perhaps developing a viable vaccine that works for any new variants and maybe get it not to expire so soon.

I think it is important to note that with mRNA vaccines the expiry date can be pushed forward by the supplier as testing increases. The expiry date is not like that for a pack of pork chops

I don't really care for all that science stuff nipper. As long as a doctor tells me it works and I won't turn into a zombie I'll be fine taking it.

I decided to suffer the brain melt and read through the daily maverick article and it does not say what Blake states it says. It seems to say that it looks promising but that the dosage needed is much higher than what we usually take for other ailments.

So basically all that mind numbing long article told me was that they don't really know anything yet and that they need to perform more test. It does not say anything more than the article I posted previously. Only that article was from sciencedirect and this is from some news paper. So they're still testing it and once the test are done we'll know for sure if it can be used as an effective treatment.

Just to be clear I'm not attempting to downplay the importance of a vaccine but I think we are going to need a viable treatment combined with vaccinations to be able to beat this thing for good.

Yes, it just says that there have not been sufficiently thorough studies to prove its efficacy one way or another.

The conspiracy theory says that it's a miracle cure, but the World-Wide-Establishment wants to prevent it being used for reasons of Profit/Population Control/Vanity/Ego/All-of-the-above.

[Sards]

I think it is important to note that with mRNA vaccines the expiry date can be pushed forward by the supplier as testing increases. The expiry date is not like that for a pack of pork chops

I don't really care for all that science stuff nipper. As long as a doctor tells me it works and I won't turn into a zombie I'll be fine taking it.

I decided to suffer the brain melt and read through the daily maverick article and it does not say what Blake states it says. It seems to say that it looks promising but that the dosage needed is much higher than what we usually take for other ailments.

So basically all that mind numbing long article told me was that they don't really know anything yet and that they need to perform more test. It does not say anything more than the article I posted previously. Only that article was from sciencedirect and this is from some news paper. So they're still testing it and once the test are done we'll know for sure if it can be used as an effective treatment.

Just to be clear I'm not attempting to downplay the importance of a vaccine but I think we are going to need a viable treatment combined with vaccinations to be able to beat this thing for good.

I hear you loud and clear, I just want to be rid of this kak virus once and for all

Blake is an alarmist...the polar opposite of a fanatical conspiracy theorist...hes the bloke you invite to your house parties if you want your guests to leave early

[handyman]

I don't really care for all that science stuff nipper. As long as a doctor tells me it works and I won't turn into a zombie I'll be fine taking it.

I decided to suffer the brain melt and read through the daily maverick article and it does not say what Blake states it says. It seems to say that it looks promising but that the dosage needed is much higher than what we usually take for other ailments.

So basically all that mind numbing long article told me was that they don't really know anything yet and that they need to perform more test. It does not say anything more than the article I posted previously. Only that article was from sciencedirect and this is from some news paper. So they're still testing it and once the test are done we'll know for sure if it can be used as an effective treatment.

Just to be clear I'm not attempting to downplay the importance of a vaccine but I think we are going to need a viable treatment combined with vaccinations to be able to beat this thing for good.

I hear you loud and clear, I just want to be rid of this kak virus once and for all

Blake is an alarmist...the polar opposite of a fanatical conspiracy theorist...hes the bloke you invite to your house parties if you want your guests to leave early

Had to laugh at this one.

[Sards]

I am so over this vokken virus and the economical damage it has caused..

Thank vok i am still very much in demand....but for the life of me the daily struggle to find Stainless Steel and Mild steel and components is a 4 hour session at my desk every vokken morning..

Importers of the steel don't have money to import bulk anymore....so its a constant scramble to search for material daily. And I usually have to pay cash for everything if I find it...which is a huge vokken drain on cashflow...

Like my buddies and I believe...just ignore as much as possible all the negative and put your shoulder to the grindstone and just do what you can...don't just give up and fall on the floor crying...this is the third reccession I am weathering .....the problem as I get older is that I tire by 2pm....so I use that time for the kids after 2pm....today is an awesome day and the kids are ready and the friends too , to go boogie...." uncle Etienne is the coolest dad ever.."

I expect a downturn in a few months time as so many restaurants have gone belly up and there is so much second hand shit on the market...but I hope to lure those high end buyers that will not compromise on standards...

The sit down restaurant industry has taken a huge pounding....Cattlebarons have closed branches...Spur will have to follow suit soon ....Like I predicted when I opened my wifes shop last year...Fast casual is the market that will be affected the least...Boutique fast food places that offer a better quality than McDonalds , etc......I am busy with a few currently , that have shown interest since my wife opened....

[Sards]

Hows this T shirt I painted last night...was on an awesome buzz and I think it rocks....all freehand...no stencils....just did the skeletal chest first and then added the bleeding heart....went tattoo style...so not anatomically correct...( 4 ribs short )

[Rinkals]

I don't really care for all that science stuff nipper. As long as a doctor tells me it works and I won't turn into a zombie I'll be fine taking it.

I decided to suffer the brain melt and read through the daily maverick article and it does not say what Blake states it says. It seems to say that it looks promising but that the dosage needed is much higher than what we usually take for other ailments.

So basically all that mind numbing long article told me was that they don't really know anything yet and that they need to perform more test. It does not say anything more than the article I posted previously. Only that article was from sciencedirect and this is from some news paper. So they're still testing it and once the test are done we'll know for sure if it can be used as an effective treatment.

Just to be clear I'm not attempting to downplay the importance of a vaccine but I think we are going to need a viable treatment combined with vaccinations to be able to beat this thing for good.

I hear you loud and clear, I just want to be rid of this kak virus once and for all

Blake is an alarmist...the polar opposite of a fanatical conspiracy theorist...hes the bloke you invite to your house parties if you want your guests to leave early

If you've met him, you'd know that he's a smart cookie.

But yes, I can see why you wouldn't like him.

[Sards]

If you've met him, you'd know that he's a smart cookie.

But yes, I can see why you wouldn't like him.

My fingers are in every pie here dude...what makes you think I haven't met him....and why would I be bothered if he is smart....but misled...
Epic fail dad........

[OomStruisbaai]

My holiday is only in July, with the 3rd wave here by March/April, I'm thinking of going to Hartenbos somewhere in Feb. Need to get some beach time.

Best weather all summer this week at Struisbaai. Spend every day swimming and walking on the beach. Thank vok the beach restriction is gone.

This week they have Marlin competition

https://nautitechsuzuki.com/fishing-competitions/

[OomStruisbaai]

My buurman

[Sards]

Are you still on the plaat ouboet.....

Are you looking for rentals still?

[average joe]

I think it is important to note that with mRNA vaccines the expiry date can be pushed forward by the supplier as testing increases. The expiry date is not like that for a pack of pork chops

I don't really care for all that science stuff nipper. As long as a doctor tells me it works and I won't turn into a zombie I'll be fine taking it.

I decided to suffer the brain melt and read through the daily maverick article and it does not say what Blake states it says. It seems to say that it looks promising but that the dosage needed is much higher than what we usually take for other ailments.

So basically all that mind numbing long article told me was that they don't really know anything yet and that they need to perform more test. It does not say anything more than the article I posted previously. Only that article was from sciencedirect and this is from some news paper. So they're still testing it and once the test are done we'll know for sure if it can be used as an effective treatment.

Just to be clear I'm not attempting to downplay the importance of a vaccine but I think we are going to need a viable treatment combined with vaccinations to be able to beat this thing for good.

Yes, it just says that there have not been sufficiently thorough studies to prove its efficacy one way or another.

The conspiracy theory says that it's a miracle cure, but the World-Wide-Establishment wants to prevent it being used for reasons of Profit/Population Control/Vanity/Ego/All-of-the-above.

For the tinfoil hat people

https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south- ... -patients/

[Sandstorm]

For the tinfoil hat people

https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south- ... -patients/

“We have varying levels of optimism on Ivermectin's efficacy. But we are all of the firm conviction that it should be a tool in our arsenal to fight Covid-19 in a shockingly empty tool box.”

Can't argue with this comment.

[OomStruisbaai]

[FalseBayFC]

Just driven past WP Prep. The whole sportsfield is full of kids playing touch rugby. I had tears streaming down my face, it was so amazing to see kids together out in the sunshine. I'm not normally an emotional oke, I think this thing has affected us mentally more than we think.

[assfly]

Just driven past WP Prep. The whole sportsfield is full of kids playing touch rugby. I had tears streaming down my face, it was so amazing to see kids together out in the sunshine. I'm not normally an emotional oke, I think this thing has affected us mentally more than we think.

That must have been a sight for sore eyes. Glad to hear it

[Sandstorm]

Just driven past WP Prep. The whole sportsfield is full of kids playing touch rugby. I had tears streaming down my face, it was so amazing to see kids together out in the sunshine. I'm not normally an emotional oke, I think this thing has affected us mentally more than we think.

That must have been a sight for sore eyes. Glad to hear it

[OomStruisbaai]

Just driven past WP Prep. The whole sportsfield is full of kids playing touch rugby. I had tears streaming down my face, it was so amazing to see kids together out in the sunshine. I'm not normally an emotional oke, I think this thing has affected us mentally more than we think.

Yep important to get the schools playing rugby again. We may lost a few Easter tournaments ( but for our game the schools must get up and running again.

[FalseBayFC]

Just driven past WP Prep. The whole sportsfield is full of kids playing touch rugby. I had tears streaming down my face, it was so amazing to see kids together out in the sunshine. I'm not normally an emotional oke, I think this thing has affected us mentally more than we think.

Yep important to get the schools playing rugby again. We may lost a few Easter tournaments ( but for our game the schools must get up and running again.

Just the mental and physical health of the kids is so important. Will be lekker to have the competitions up and running but to have that aspect of normalcy back is a relief.

[Sards]

Just driven past WP Prep. The whole sportsfield is full of kids playing touch rugby. I had tears streaming down my face, it was so amazing to see kids together out in the sunshine. I'm not normally an emotional oke, I think this thing has affected us mentally more than we think.

Yep important to get the schools playing rugby again. We may lost a few Easter tournaments ( but for our game the schools must get up and running again.

Just the mental and physical health of the kids is so important. Will be lekker to have the competitions up and running but to have that aspect of normalcy back is a relief.

In the Western Cape......forget it.....its absolutely pathetic how fractured and factional the sporting bodies are... parents need to think about the kids before there egos..


I am surprised there were kids running around on the sports field. At my kids school they are not allowed because its a guaranteed germ spreader. Not that I am against it at all....my youngest is craving some rough play with his school mates....

[OomStruisbaai]

Yep important to get the schools playing rugby again. We may lost a few Easter tournaments ( but for our game the schools must get up and running again.

Just the mental and physical health of the kids is so important. Will be lekker to have the competitions up and running but to have that aspect of normalcy back is a relief.

In the Western Cape......forget it.....its absolutely pathetic how fractured and factional the sporting bodies are... parents need to think about the kids before there egos..


I am surprised there were kids running around on the sports field. At my kids school they are not allowed because its a guaranteed germ spreader. Not that I am against it at all....my youngest is craving some rough play with his school mates....

Your kids probably dont have sport at Edgemead Primary.

[Sards]

Just the mental and physical health of the kids is so important. Will be lekker to have the competitions up and running but to have that aspect of normalcy back is a relief.

In the Western Cape......forget it.....its absolutely pathetic how fractured and factional the sporting bodies are... parents need to think about the kids before there egos..


I am surprised there were kids running around on the sports field. At my kids school they are not allowed because its a guaranteed germ spreader. Not that I am against it at all....my youngest is craving some rough play with his school mates....

Your kids probably dont have sport at Edgemead Primary.

Sunningdale Primary....

[OomStruisbaai]

We thought COVID-19 was a biological war’ – SANDF’s R260m mistake
Some extraordinary claims were made in Parliament this week, as SANDF representatives said they were responding to COVID-19 'as a chemical attack'.
Tom Headby Tom Head
21-02-2021 12:45
in News
The South African National Defence Force (SANDF) found themselves with some explaining to do in Parliament this week, after their R260 million procurement of an untested – and ultimately unusable – COVID-19 treatment came under the microscope. However, in the search for clarity, more bizarre details about this deal have come to light.


SANDF’S DODGY DRUG DEAL
Senior executives serving the army spent about R260 million on ‘unproven COVID-19 remedies’ – and then hid evidence of the payments. It is believed that the so-called ‘treatment’ was initially procured from Cuba, and had even been championed by Ekurhuleni Mayor Mzwandile Masina. Rapport claims that soldiers were clambering to be injected with it first.

The order for the Interferon Alfa-R2B, also known as Heberon, did not come from the South African Military Health Services (SAMHS) – and as such, failed to gain acceptance as stock, as this particular medication is not registered for use in South Africa. Interferon was tested as a COVID-19 treatment last year by the WHO, but it failed to tame the virus.

CAN INTERFERON PREVENT COVID-19? THE ANSWER IS NO
SANDF stuck to their guns on the issue, insisting that Interferon had shown positive results in several other countries. However, these claims were comprehensively dismissed by Wits University’s Professor Shabir Madhi:


“There is no scientific rationale for doing a clinical trial of Interferon alfa-2b as it has already been shown to be ineffective in the WHO solidarity trial in the treatment of COVID-19.”

SANDF REACTED TO COVID-19 ‘AS BIOLOGICAL WARFARE’
Major General Mzikayise Tyhalisi faced the music in the National Assembly, and gave an eye-opening account of SANDF’s response to the virus: The army reacted to the arrival of COVID-19, believing it was the result of ‘biological warfare’ – an astonishing claim made by no other government or armed service elsewhere.

Tyhalisi defended the decision to procure vast reserves of Interferon, saying that decisions made ‘in wartime-like operations’ can often be questioned in hindsight – and SANDF operated under the impression that a ‘chemical threat’ existed.

“Ramaphosa told us to get boots on the ground in April 2020. We were in the process of planning of the employment and protecting these forces. The military has the sole capability of chemical and biological warfare. We did not know how this enemy was going to behave… Interferon was purchased to support the fight against a military biological threat.”

[OomStruisbaai]

Tomorrow level 1

Level 1 restrictions – what will change for South Africa?
– The hours of curfew are now 00:00 – 4:00.
– Gatherings will be permitted, subject to limitations on size and social distancing laws. They include political, social, cultural, and religious events. The rules will mean that 100 people can gather indoors, 250 outdoors, and venues can only host 50% of their capacity.
– Normal hours have been restored for liquor traders, too.
– Five airports are open for international travel: OR Tambo, Cape Town International, King Shaka, Kruger Mpumalanga, and Lanseria Airport.
– Night vigils and night clubs, however, will remain closed.

[OomStruisbaai]

KZN no deaths yesterday. Figures keep dropping.

[Lemoentjie]

KZN no deaths yesterday. Figures keep dropping.

Seems like almost everyone here has had it already.

[Fangle]

Is there a vaccination plan for SA?

[Sandstorm]

KZN no deaths yesterday. Figures keep dropping.

Seems like almost everyone here has had it already.

If they did, you'd have thousands more dead. Herd immunity with Covid is a fallacy.