Support for Welsh independence surges.

[Line6 HXFX]

Good news for us lifelong Welsh nationalists .
Up to around 40% now according to a polls conducted yesterday.
Another what three or four years of these Tories and it will be around 60%

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... dependence

A poll suggesting that backing for independence among Welsh citizens is at a record high should serve as a warning for the UK government and prompt it to work harder at its relationship with the devolved nations, supporters of the union have said.

Just under 40% of Welsh people polled who expressed an opinion said they would vote for independence, citing feelings that their country has different social attitudes to the UK as a whole and unhappiness at Westminster’s response to the Covid pandemic.

[GogLais]

That's odd, I saw a BBC one a couple of days that had it about 13%, which is more like what I'd expect. The Abolish the Senedd movement is on a par with that isn't it?

[tc27]

Would want to see the full table that not linked in that article to really comment on the poll itself (question itself and criteria for excluding answers on likelihood of voting) but this is the polling for the Welsh assembly:



A bit confusing as its split between list and constituency and Abolish (who only have candidates for list) are on about 9% compared to PCs 22%ish.

Assuming all PC would support independence then to get to 39% assuming green and Labour voters are also supporting to an extent.

[clydecloggie]

Wales independent? Wouldn't work. Too wee, too poor, too stupid.

Get used to loads of this once Unionists start to take this possibility seriously.

[tc27]

Wales independent? Wouldn't work. Too wee, too poor, too stupid.

Get used to loads of this once Unionists start to take this possibility seriously.

Again something John Swinney said not ever muttered by anyone on the other side of the argument.

[clydecloggie]

Wales independent? Wouldn't work. Too wee, too poor, too stupid.

Get used to loads of this once Unionists start to take this possibility seriously.

Again something John Swinney said not ever muttered by anyone on the other side of the argument.

Not literally, but a lot of arguments boil down to one of the three. The 'too poor' one is generally dressed up in fancy economical discourse. The 'too wee' one as Union flag waving (look at our works, and despair. Empire!), and the 'too stupid' one takes many forms that can be boiled down to a dismissal of the idea that Scotland could independently find ways to do things differently than the UK. Anyway, we've got a different thread for that ;)

[tc27]

Wales independent? Wouldn't work. Too wee, too poor, too stupid.

Get used to loads of this once Unionists start to take this possibility seriously.

Again something John Swinney said not ever muttered by anyone on the other side of the argument.

Not literally, but a lot of arguments boil down to one of the three. The 'too poor' one is generally dressed up in fancy economical discourse. The 'too wee' one as Union flag waving (look at our works, and despair. Empire!), and the 'too stupid' one takes many forms that can be boiled down to a dismissal of the idea that Scotland could independently find ways to do things differently than the UK. Anyway, we've got a different thread for that ;)

We wont agree on this but from my perspective the 'To wee etc etc' line is deployed simply as a lazy rhetorical device to avoid answering difficult economic questions.