Americas Cup - Official Thread

[Snooze]

So, 37th America's Cup planning underway

Challenger of Record - Ineos Team UK

Same boats with tightened up rules

Tighter eligibility rules

NZ Govt on board provided the defence is in NZ

How much is the govt throwing in?

I read a poultry $5m which is crazy small even with NZ population size.

Imagine how much they’d throw at Dalts to host it in Dubai.

I could be wrong, but I think these funds are just to hold the team together (keep them paid) until a game plan and some interim sponsorship is found. They did this last time as well to stop the team being ravaged by the vultures hanging around the Viaduct right now (a lesson learned from 2000).

[Ymx]

How much is the govt throwing in?

I read a poultry $5m which is crazy small even with NZ population size.

Yeah, that's chicken feed.

Ha ha

[Enzedder]

So, 37th America's Cup planning underway

Challenger of Record - Ineos Team UK

Same boats with tightened up rules

Tighter eligibility rules

NZ Govt on board provided the defence is in NZ

How much is the govt throwing in?

I read a poultry $5m which is crazy small even with NZ population size.

Imagine how much they’d throw at Dalts to host it in Dubai.

I could be wrong, but I think these funds are just to hold the team together (keep them paid) until a game plan and some interim sponsorship is found. They did this last time as well to stop the team being ravaged by the vultures hanging around the Viaduct right now (a lesson learned from 2000).

Spot on. I wonder if Dalton is starting a Dutch auction. If so, let him go.

[Dan54]

Any clues as to CoR?

Is that Dalton on board NZ boat? Thought he would be hiding on boat with UK being allowed only to board.

Think it was Yacht club committee that hide, that who they got to handle challenge to.

[Dan54]

Tough afternoon. Conflicted between watching the yachting and perving at the grandsons swim coach.

Who won the yachting?

You got grankids in J'ville huh NZer, my youngest grankid lives there, though she 22yo so................

[Enzedder]

Tough afternoon. Conflicted between watching the yachting and perving at the grandsons swim coach.

Who won the yachting?

You got grankids in J'ville huh NZer, my youngest grankid lives there, though she 22yo so................

Shit, if you were born in 54, someone started the breeding process bloody early

[Kiwias]

Tough afternoon. Conflicted between watching the yachting and perving at the grandsons swim coach.

Who won the yachting?

You got grankids in J'ville huh NZer, my youngest grankid lives there, though she 22yo so................

Shit, if you were born in 54, someone started the breeding process bloody early

I was born in 1954 and my oldest grandchild is still only 7. How old was Dan54 when he had his first child????

[Enzedder]

And that's his youngest. I suspect the 54 isn't his year of birth and that he's an older bugger than you and I Kiwias.

[Dan54]

Tough afternoon. Conflicted between watching the yachting and perving at the grandsons swim coach.

Who won the yachting?

You got grankids in J'ville huh NZer, my youngest grankid lives there, though she 22yo so................

Shit, if you were born in 54, someone started the breeding process bloody early

yep Mate, I was born in 54, oldest kid is 48, so maybe started early, (mind you come from a family of 18 kids so we knew what was involved,) and grandkids are born to younger kid. Geez I 66 and been married just about 48 years!

[Dan54]

You got grankids in J'ville huh NZer, my youngest grankid lives there, though she 22yo so................

Shit, if you were born in 54, someone started the breeding process bloody early

I was born in 1954 and my oldest grandchild is still only 7. How old was Dan54 when he had his first child????

Was 18 mate, hell I got a 2 year old great grandson

[Trapper]

You got grankids in J'ville huh NZer, my youngest grankid lives there, though she 22yo so................

Shit, if you were born in 54, someone started the breeding process bloody early

yep Mate, I was born in 54, oldest kid is 48, so maybe started early, (mind you come from a family of 18 kids so we knew what was involved,) and grandkids are born to younger kid. Geez I 66 and been married just about 48 years!

Jesus!

[Monkey Magic]

You got grankids in J'ville huh NZer, my youngest grankid lives there, though she 22yo so................

Shit, if you were born in 54, someone started the breeding process bloody early

yep Mate, I was born in 54, oldest kid is 48, so maybe started early, (mind you come from a family of 18 kids so we knew what was involved,) and grandkids are born to younger kid. Geez I 66 and been married just about 48 years!

Dear God, 18 kids. Was your family based north of a wall and your old man called Craster?

[Muttonbird]

So, 37th America's Cup planning underway

Challenger of Record - Ineos Team UK

Same boats with tightened up rules

Tighter eligibility rules

NZ Govt on board provided the defence is in NZ

How much is the govt throwing in?

I read a poultry $5m which is crazy small even with NZ population size.

Imagine how much they’d throw at Dalts to host it in Dubai.

I hope Emirates is contributing twice that for retainers if not more given the name of the team is Emirates Team New Zealand.

NZ's sailing tech and intellectual property has just won them huge, gold-plated exposure. They're idiots if they jump ship now.

[Kiwias]

Shit, if you were born in 54, someone started the breeding process bloody early

I was born in 1954 and my oldest grandchild is still only 7. How old was Dan54 when he had his first child????

Was 18 mate, hell I got a 2 year old great grandson

Fair goes. My uncle got married at 18, they had their first child at age 20, was a granddad at 42 or so, and a great granddad at 65.

[Mr Bungle]

I was born in 1954 and my oldest grandchild is still only 7. How old was Dan54 when he had his first child????

Was 18 mate, hell I got a 2 year old great grandson

Fair goes. My uncle got married at 18, they had their first child at age 20, was a granddad at 42 or so, and a great granddad at 65.

I know a guy who had his daughters not miscarried, would have been a grandfather at 32.

[Dan54]

I was born in 1954 and my oldest grandchild is still only 7. How old was Dan54 when he had his first child????

Was 18 mate, hell I got a 2 year old great grandson

Fair goes. My uncle got married at 18, they had their first child at age 20, was a granddad at 42 or so, and a great granddad at 65.

Yep mate I was a grandad at 39

[Dan54]

Shit, if you were born in 54, someone started the breeding process bloody early

yep Mate, I was born in 54, oldest kid is 48, so maybe started early, (mind you come from a family of 18 kids so we knew what was involved,) and grandkids are born to younger kid. Geez I 66 and been married just about 48 years!

Dear God, 18 kids. Was your family based north of a wall and your old man called Craster?

No mate actually 20 kids born, 2 died as young kids and we never realy counted them, we had enough. I can tell you when the last couple were born we used to vote on names . We also take into account 12 of them were girls so.............

[Dan54]

Shit, if you were born in 54, someone started the breeding process bloody early

yep Mate, I was born in 54, oldest kid is 48, so maybe started early, (mind you come from a family of 18 kids so we knew what was involved,) and grandkids are born to younger kid. Geez I 66 and been married just about 48 years!

Jesus!

mate makes for interesting life I suppose, and probably gives me a different outlook to what is important

[Ymx]

yep Mate, I was born in 54, oldest kid is 48, so maybe started early, (mind you come from a family of 18 kids so we knew what was involved,) and grandkids are born to younger kid. Geez I 66 and been married just about 48 years!

Jesus!

mate makes for interesting life I suppose, and probably gives me a different outlook to what is important

Planet over population I hope

[Ymx]

Do you have children older than your own brothers/sister?

Or any nieces or nephews who are older than you?

[Dan54]

Do you have children older than your own brothers/sister?

Or any nieces or nephews who are older than you?

No mate, I in younger group (if you can say that at 66) only 6 siblings younger than me, but 3 of my younger siblings have nieces older than them.

And it is to be noted that none of brothers and siters have families the same size .
Kind of funny as I was just saying to wife that the youngest grand daughter that I mentioned at beginning has jus passed her masters degree from Uni in Wellington, and I reckon having a grandaughter old enough to have letters after her name makes me feel older than having a son almost 50!

[stunt_cunt]

Odd, a family I grew up with in Morrinsville had 18 kids - the Wilson's.

[Dan54]

Odd, a family I grew up with in Morrinsville had 18 kids - the Wilson's.

Yep see we not unusual it seems.

[Ymx]

Do you have children older than your own brothers/sister?

Or any nieces or nephews who are older than you?

No mate, I in younger group (if you can say that at 66) only 6 siblings younger than me, but 3 of my younger siblings have nieces older than them.

And it is to be noted that none of brothers and siters have families the same size .
Kind of funny as I was just saying to wife that the youngest grand daughter that I mentioned at beginning has jus passed her masters degree from Uni in Wellington, and I reckon having a grandaughter old enough to have letters after her name makes me feel older than having a son almost 50!

So you have kids 22-48? Having children for over 26 years. So you probably have 10 plus yourself.
Edit: oops that’s your granddaughter.

Your 17 siblings each have a different number of children? You must have close to 200 in just 2 generations (coming from just 2 people). Compared to 14 from the average family.

So clearly it wasn’t just one generation who had a load??

And how does one house 18 children in a property? And how do they afford it?

[Rinkals]

Not wanting to threadjack:
Overpopulating the planet: a fork

[Ymx]

On topic

Racing on Solent next year would boost America’s Cup, says Sir Ben Ainslie

Ainslie believes that a Cup next year would improve the event’s continuity

Ed Gorman
Tuesday March 23 2021, 12.00pm, The Times
The notion of the next America’s Cup being fought out on the Solent between Team New Zealand and Ineos Team UK is a serious prospect and has the full support of Sir Ben Ainslie.

In an interview with The Times, the British skipper of Ineos Team UK made clear that he regards the idea of a single-challenger defence by TNZ on the Solent — the strait that separates the Isle of Wight from the British mainland — next year as a viable and desirable option.

Seriously, how could this even be entertained.

It would be like INEOS buying the rights to have been winner of the cup.

Not having to compete against any challengers and immediately in the final.

And then to be hosting it at home as well.

What the actual fuck?

[Flockwitt]

On topic

Racing on Solent next year would boost America’s Cup, says Sir Ben Ainslie

Ainslie believes that a Cup next year would improve the event’s continuity

Ed Gorman
Tuesday March 23 2021, 12.00pm, The Times
The notion of the next America’s Cup being fought out on the Solent between Team New Zealand and Ineos Team UK is a serious prospect and has the full support of Sir Ben Ainslie.

In an interview with The Times, the British skipper of Ineos Team UK made clear that he regards the idea of a single-challenger defence by TNZ on the Solent — the strait that separates the Isle of Wight from the British mainland — next year as a viable and desirable option.

Seriously, how could this even be entertained.

It would be like INEOS buying the rights to have been winner of the cup.

Not having to compete against any challengers and immediately in the final.

And then to be hosting it at home as well.

What the actual fuck?

Yep. Genuinely don’t understand how they think this should be entertained in any way. It’s like somebody is just trying to pad the blame with an overbearing sponsor.

[obelixtim]

Why would TNZ give up home advantage? They have the infrastructure and knowledge of the gulf, and it would surely save a lot of money to stay in AKL. Even if the pom sponsor paid for everything. Any other potential challengers would also be highly pissed off.

This is Ainsleys home turf. And if TNZ do it and lose to him?

Absolute madness.

If this goes ahead you can bet the NZ public will turn on Dalton and co like they did on Coutts.

I doubt any cup challenge in the future would get any support from Kiwis. The Americas Cup would be consigned to the dustbin of history.

[Kiwias]

On topic

Racing on Solent next year would boost America’s Cup, says Sir Ben Ainslie

Ainslie believes that a Cup next year would improve the event’s continuity

Ed Gorman
Tuesday March 23 2021, 12.00pm, The Times
The notion of the next America’s Cup being fought out on the Solent between Team New Zealand and Ineos Team UK is a serious prospect and has the full support of Sir Ben Ainslie.

In an interview with The Times, the British skipper of Ineos Team UK made clear that he regards the idea of a single-challenger defence by TNZ on the Solent — the strait that separates the Isle of Wight from the British mainland — next year as a viable and desirable option.

Seriously, how could this even be entertained.

It would be like INEOS buying the rights to have been winner of the cup.

Not having to compete against any challengers and immediately in the final.

And then to be hosting it at home as well.

What the actual fuck?

Yep. Genuinely don’t understand how they think this should be entertained in any way. It’s like somebody is just trying to pad the blame with an overbearing sponsor.

Sound s incredibly cheeky to be even suggesting the defender give up hope rights.

[Enzedder]

Dalton would shoot his grandmother if the sponsorship $$$ were high enough.

[Rinkals]

On topic

Racing on Solent next year would boost America’s Cup, says Sir Ben Ainslie

Ainslie believes that a Cup next year would improve the event’s continuity

Ed Gorman
Tuesday March 23 2021, 12.00pm, The Times
The notion of the next America’s Cup being fought out on the Solent between Team New Zealand and Ineos Team UK is a serious prospect and has the full support of Sir Ben Ainslie.

In an interview with The Times, the British skipper of Ineos Team UK made clear that he regards the idea of a single-challenger defence by TNZ on the Solent — the strait that separates the Isle of Wight from the British mainland — next year as a viable and desirable option.

Seriously, how could this even be entertained.

It would be like INEOS buying the rights to have been winner of the cup.

Not having to compete against any challengers and immediately in the final.

And then to be hosting it at home as well.

What the actual fuck?

English arrogance?

More seriously, though, you might attract a bigger viewership from Europe and East Coast US?

[Muttonbird]

All I can say is we would be delighted if New Zealand did want to bring the Cup to Britain. It would be an incredible opportunity to build on the momentum coming out of this Cup; give the country something big to shout about coming out of Covid; give New Zealand the chance to raise commercial revenue; and all the other teams the chance to regroup.

Ainslie imagines NZ and Team NZ might be charitable about Britian's wellbeing out of Covid.

Why the hell should we give a fudge about that?

You don't go giving away a 30 year sailing legacy because Britain couldn't lockdown properly.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/americ ... XPABIMMPY/

[Rinkals]

I used to regard Ainslie as a role model because he raced Finns as I did.

It's quite clear that he's turned into a bit of a prat.

[Ymx]

On topic

Racing on Solent next year would boost America’s Cup, says Sir Ben Ainslie

Ainslie believes that a Cup next year would improve the event’s continuity

Ed Gorman
Tuesday March 23 2021, 12.00pm, The Times
The notion of the next America’s Cup being fought out on the Solent between Team New Zealand and Ineos Team UK is a serious prospect and has the full support of Sir Ben Ainslie.

In an interview with The Times, the British skipper of Ineos Team UK made clear that he regards the idea of a single-challenger defence by TNZ on the Solent — the strait that separates the Isle of Wight from the British mainland — next year as a viable and desirable option.

Seriously, how could this even be entertained.

It would be like INEOS buying the rights to have been winner of the cup.

Not having to compete against any challengers and immediately in the final.

And then to be hosting it at home as well.

What the actual fuck?

English arrogance?

More seriously, though, you might attract a bigger viewership from Europe and East Coast US?

Don’t think anyone in Europe cares. Except maybe parts of Italy, or Monaco.

Parts of US might.

But alternatively Dubai.

[Rinkals]

On topic



Seriously, how could this even be entertained.

It would be like INEOS buying the rights to have been winner of the cup.

Not having to compete against any challengers and immediately in the final.

And then to be hosting it at home as well.

What the actual fuck?

English arrogance?

More seriously, though, you might attract a bigger viewership from Europe and East Coast US?

Don’t think anyone in Europe cares. Except maybe parts of Italy, or Monaco.

Parts of US might.

But alternatively Dubai.

No, but perhaps they would if it didn't require a 2 am alarm call.

[Ymx]

Not in the UK. No one would care. Except to read about it in the papers after the event.

[charltom]

On topic

Racing on Solent next year would boost America’s Cup, says Sir Ben Ainslie

Ainslie believes that a Cup next year would improve the event’s continuity

Ed Gorman
Tuesday March 23 2021, 12.00pm, The Times
The notion of the next America’s Cup being fought out on the Solent between Team New Zealand and Ineos Team UK is a serious prospect and has the full support of Sir Ben Ainslie.

In an interview with The Times, the British skipper of Ineos Team UK made clear that he regards the idea of a single-challenger defence by TNZ on the Solent — the strait that separates the Isle of Wight from the British mainland — next year as a viable and desirable option.

Seriously, how could this even be entertained.

It would be like INEOS buying the rights to have been winner of the cup.

Not having to compete against any challengers and immediately in the final.

And then to be hosting it at home as well.

What the actual fuck?

English arrogance?

Doesn't sound like it: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sailing/202 ... e-magical/

It would return the contest to its roots, albeit temporarily.

[Grandpa]

In many ways it's a win-win for NZ... as The America's Cup would still be held in Auckland in 2024 regardless of the result in Cowes next year...

And as far as the 2024 event is concerned, nothing would change with Ineos happy to return to Auckland – if that was what New Zealand wanted – regardless of whether they won or lost in Cowes. The idea is more that it would be "a bridge" to the next Cup.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sailing/202 ... e-magical/

[Ymx]

In many ways it's a win-win for NZ... as The America's Cup would still be held in Auckland in 2024 regardless of the result in Cowes next year...

And as far as the 2024 event is concerned, nothing would change with Ineos happy to return to Auckland – if that was what New Zealand wanted – regardless of whether they won or lost in Cowes. The idea is more that it would be "a bridge" to the next Cup.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sailing/202 ... e-magical/

From what I understand about the cup rules, that would not be legally binding.

[Grandpa]

In many ways it's a win-win for NZ... as The America's Cup would still be held in Auckland in 2024 regardless of the result in Cowes next year...

And as far as the 2024 event is concerned, nothing would change with Ineos happy to return to Auckland – if that was what New Zealand wanted – regardless of whether they won or lost in Cowes. The idea is more that it would be "a bridge" to the next Cup.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sailing/202 ... e-magical/

From what I understand about the cup rules, that would not be legally binding.

If they could make it legally binding... it's quite appealing...