Less than half full flights down and home from London this week. Must be making a massive loss considering we only paid £120 return.EnergiseR2 wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 10:37 am Agreed depending on when booked but you don't have to pay it. The margins are ludicrously small these days particularly for the likes of BA as they haven't unpicked all the proper job bits that cabin crew have.
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I take that flight a fair bit and it's been pretty much plain sailing, although it's been full to the rafters every time - you must be timing it better than me!Blackmac wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:49 pmSlick wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:52 am Was speaking to a girl last night who was BA cabin crew pre pandemic and loved it. She lost her job and went into something else but got drawn back and started again 3 weeks ago. Quit yesterday and said it was absolutely awful, treated like shit, everyone she met trying to find away out, no one had any pride in the job any longer etc
To be fair, despite all the problems we had with BA, the staff couldn't have been nicer.
We actually flew down and up to London this weekend and BA couldn't have been better. Cheap, punctual and nice half full flights in and out of City Airport
The acid test of an airline and their staff is generally when things go wrong, and I thought no-one could possibly be worse than Ryanair (they actually take perverse pride in being arses) but there's a few airlines that seem to be stooping quite close to their level. Id' be sad to hear that BA might be heading that way, although I know general staff and skill shortages have caused service issues which has led to a whole vicious circle of overloaded staff having to fix issues whilst dealing with angry customers.
Pick your plane. BA's new Club Suite is great on the A350 and upgraded 777 jets. The older business class seat design is over 15 years old and sub-standard now.
You would expect a 3.5 year old plane to have a better interior
It’s not just the seats. It’s the food, it’s the service, and it’s the crappy business lounge.
I’d still look at them first for European flights but not sure I’d even consider them now for long haulBlackmac wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:49 pmSlick wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:52 am Was speaking to a girl last night who was BA cabin crew pre pandemic and loved it. She lost her job and went into something else but got drawn back and started again 3 weeks ago. Quit yesterday and said it was absolutely awful, treated like shit, everyone she met trying to find away out, no one had any pride in the job any longer etc
To be fair, despite all the problems we had with BA, the staff couldn't have been nicer.
We actually flew down and up to London this weekend and BA couldn't have been better. Cheap, punctual and nice half full flights in and out of City Airport
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
What lounge, where? They’re not all alike.Ymx wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 8:42 pmIt’s not just the seats. It’s the food, it’s the service, and it’s the crappy business lounge.
Gatwick. But it felt so cheap too, with the food and drinks. Especially compared to the Emirates business lounge also in Gatwick. I think I’ve been to a Heathrow BA lounge as well.
I exclude the Emirates Dubai one, as I’m not actually a fan of that - too big. And a lot of the seating is cafe like.
I exclude the Emirates Dubai one, as I’m not actually a fan of that - too big. And a lot of the seating is cafe like.
I wouldn’t go near them for European flights as I’d have to transfer at Heathrow. KLM or Lufthansa.Slick wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 9:09 pmI’d still look at them first for European flights but not sure I’d even consider them now for long haulBlackmac wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:49 pmSlick wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:52 am Was speaking to a girl last night who was BA cabin crew pre pandemic and loved it. She lost her job and went into something else but got drawn back and started again 3 weeks ago. Quit yesterday and said it was absolutely awful, treated like shit, everyone she met trying to find away out, no one had any pride in the job any longer etc
To be fair, despite all the problems we had with BA, the staff couldn't have been nicer.
We actually flew down and up to London this weekend and BA couldn't have been better. Cheap, punctual and nice half full flights in and out of City Airport
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
That’s a good point, it’s been a while since I’ve flownBiffer wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:54 amI wouldn’t go near them for European flights as I’d have to transfer at Heathrow. KLM or Lufthansa.Slick wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 9:09 pmI’d still look at them first for European flights but not sure I’d even consider them now for long haulBlackmac wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:49 pm
To be fair, despite all the problems we had with BA, the staff couldn't have been nicer.
We actually flew down and up to London this weekend and BA couldn't have been better. Cheap, punctual and nice half full flights in and out of City Airport
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
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Totally agree with this, I haven't been through Heathrow in at least 10 years and my life is immeasurably better for it.Biffer wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:54 am I wouldn’t go near them for European flights as I’d have to transfer at Heathrow. KLM or Lufthansa.
Some colleagues travelled from Schiphol last week and they told me it looks like that airport may be getting its act back together again after the shitshow of last year. Fingers crossed that's true.
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Using 'Shithole' as an example of a nice airport isn't something I've heard in about 20 years.Chrysoprase wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 2:05 pmTotally agree with this, I haven't been through Heathrow in at least 10 years and my life is immeasurably better for it.Biffer wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:54 am I wouldn’t go near them for European flights as I’d have to transfer at Heathrow. KLM or Lufthansa.
Some colleagues travelled from Schiphol last week and they told me it looks like that airport may be getting its act back together again after the shitshow of last year. Fingers crossed that's true.
Small airports are generally more pleasant than large ones. I'm not far from Heathrow but will choose London City if the flights are available - sadly they mostly aren't. I did a few flights from Southampton and that was also more convenient than Heathrow. Off the train to having a coffee airside - 15 mins.
That was our experience last year. We had three European flights and Morocco connecting through T5, and every flight was just a joke. The only reassurance you have when the flight to Heathrow's is late is that the one from Heathrow will be late as well.