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Ymx wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:44 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:24 pm While it's creepy given the likely age gap, is there actually anything illegal in one person over the age of consent paying another person over the age of consent for naked photos?

Also the fucking gall of The Sun to be going in on someone getting their rocks off to a 17 year old when they paid 16 year olds to appear on page 3 in the not so distant past!

He’s a public figure who may or may not read the news. He’s a beacon for the bbc.

Actually isn’t 18 the age needed for explicit material?

Either way, this child was not allowed to vote yet.

He’s a filthy old scum bag, if true.

Ymx wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:22 pm

Biffer wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:20 pm Older wealthy man financially supporting a young lover who happens to be a drug addled. Not really anything new, not really anything illegal, not really moral, not particularly pleasant.

This is a nothing to see here thing for you?

An older and person in the public spotlight for integrity, paying a child for sex pics. S(he) is paid a large amount and develops a bad drug habit.

This is just a bit seedy but fine with you?

sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:17 pm

Ymx wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:44 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:24 pm While it's creepy given the likely age gap, is there actually anything illegal in one person over the age of consent paying another person over the age of consent for naked photos?

Also the fucking gall of The Sun to be going in on someone getting their rocks off to a 17 year old when they paid 16 year olds to appear on page 3 in the not so distant past!

He’s a public figure who may or may not read the news. He’s a beacon for the bbc.

Actually isn’t 18 the age needed for explicit material?

Either way, this child was not allowed to vote yet.

He’s a filthy old scum bag, if true.

Well it should be a slam dunk case then, right? In which case the offender will get his just deserts.

Creepy, yet legal relationships happen all the time, however much we wish they wouldn't. I'm not sure why whether or not someone reads the news should be relevant.

By the way I'm very much in favour of a change to our age of consent laws to eliminate creep possibilities. Ideally no one older than 18 could be with a 16 or 17 year old and I'd be tempted to bring in some sort of upper limit age for the rest of the teen years too, although 18 being age of majority for voting and thus an adult in the eyes of the law would complicate this. Having known an 18 year old at uni chuck her immediate future away on a predatory 37 year old who got her pregnant, I remain convinced that something can and should be done in that area.

fishfoodie wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:16 pm

Biffer wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:20 pm Older wealthy man financially supporting a young lover who happens to be a drug addled. Not really anything new, not really anything illegal, not really moral, not particularly pleasant.

Tomorrow these same rags will be fawning over a disgraced former PM, welcoming another sprog, spawned with a women 24 years his junior, whom he groomed , while in a position of power.

Biffer wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:29 pm

Ymx wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:22 pm

Biffer wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:20 pm Older wealthy man financially supporting a young lover who happens to be a drug addled. Not really anything new, not really anything illegal, not really moral, not particularly pleasant.

This is a nothing to see here thing for you?

An older and person in the public spotlight for integrity, paying a child for sex pics. S(he) is paid a large amount and develops a bad drug habit.

This is just a bit seedy but fine with you?

If he paid money for pictures when they were under 18 it's a criminal act and he should be prosecuted.

Otherwise, there's nothing illegal. It makes him an immoral piece of shit, and hell lose his career most likely, but nit illegal.

SaintK wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:35 pm

Biffer wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:29 pm

Ymx wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:22 pm

This is a nothing to see here thing for you?

An older and person in the public spotlight for integrity, paying a child for sex pics. S(he) is paid a large amount and develops a bad drug habit.

This is just a bit seedy but fine with you?

If he paid money for pictures when they were under 18 it's a criminal act and he should be prosecuted.

Otherwise, there's nothing illegal. It makes him an immoral piece of shit, and hell lose his career most likely, but nit illegal.

Probably best if we get the full details from a source that isn’t The Sun

Ymx wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:34 pm Sock/Biffer

Well let’s see and hope he gets his just desserts. Especially if the victim is hiding away from it.

A public figure who prominently reads the news of a publicly funded world renowned news source, YES ! you’re damned right they need to be held to high standards. It worries me you think otherwise?

Creepy lefties !

Biffer wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:31 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:17 pm

Ymx wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:44 pm

He’s a public figure who may or may not read the news. He’s a beacon for the bbc.

Actually isn’t 18 the age needed for explicit material?

Either way, this child was not allowed to vote yet.

He’s a filthy old scum bag, if true.

Well it should be a slam dunk case then, right? In which case the offender will get his just deserts.

Creepy, yet legal relationships happen all the time, however much we wish they wouldn't. I'm not sure why whether or not someone reads the news should be relevant.

By the way I'm very much in favour of a change to our age of consent laws to eliminate creep possibilities. Ideally no one older than 18 could be with a 16 or 17 year old and I'd be tempted to bring in some sort of upper limit age for the rest of the teen years too, although 18 being age of majority for voting and thus an adult in the eyes of the law would complicate this. Having known an 18 year old at uni chuck her immediate future away on a predatory 37 year old who got her pregnant, I remain convinced that something can and should be done in that area.

I had a one night stand with an 18/19 year old when I was 32. She absolutely flung herself at me - New town, new people etc.

Ymx wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:34 pm Sock/Biffer

Well let’s see and hope he gets his just desserts. Especially if the victim is hiding away from it.

A public figure who prominently reads the news of a publicly funded world renowned news source, YES ! you’re damned right they need to be held to high standards. It worries me you think otherwise?

Creepy lefties !

Biffer wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:31 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:17 pm

Ymx wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:44 pm

He’s a public figure who may or may not read the news. He’s a beacon for the bbc.

Actually isn’t 18 the age needed for explicit material?

Either way, this child was not allowed to vote yet.

He’s a filthy old scum bag, if true.

Well it should be a slam dunk case then, right? In which case the offender will get his just deserts.

Creepy, yet legal relationships happen all the time, however much we wish they wouldn't. I'm not sure why whether or not someone reads the news should be relevant.

By the way I'm very much in favour of a change to our age of consent laws to eliminate creep possibilities. Ideally no one older than 18 could be with a 16 or 17 year old and I'd be tempted to bring in some sort of upper limit age for the rest of the teen years too, although 18 being age of majority for voting and thus an adult in the eyes of the law would complicate this. Having known an 18 year old at uni chuck her immediate future away on a predatory 37 year old who got her pregnant, I remain convinced that something can and should be done in that area.

I had a one night stand with an 18/19 year old when I was 32. She absolutely flung herself at me - New town, new people etc.

sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:07 pm

Biffer wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:31 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:17 pm

Well it should be a slam dunk case then, right? In which case the offender will get his just deserts.

Creepy, yet legal relationships happen all the time, however much we wish they wouldn't. I'm not sure why whether or not someone reads the news should be relevant.

By the way I'm very much in favour of a change to our age of consent laws to eliminate creep possibilities. Ideally no one older than 18 could be with a 16 or 17 year old and I'd be tempted to bring in some sort of upper limit age for the rest of the teen years too, although 18 being age of majority for voting and thus an adult in the eyes of the law would complicate this. Having known an 18 year old at uni chuck her immediate future away on a predatory 37 year old who got her pregnant, I remain convinced that something can and should be done in that area.

I had a one night stand with an 18/19 year old when I was 32. She absolutely flung herself at me - New town, new people etc.

Good for you I guess? Did you and your mates never use the half your age + 7 equation?

The power imbalance in relationships stemming from gaps in life experience and maturity tend to present in relationships rather than one night stands.

Ymx wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:22 pm

Biffer wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:20 pm Older wealthy man financially supporting a young lover who happens to be a drug addled. Not really anything new, not really anything illegal, not really moral, not particularly pleasant.

This is a nothing to see here thing for you?

An older and person in the public spotlight for integrity, paying a child for sex pics. S(he) is paid a large amount and develops a bad drug habit.

This is just a bit seedy but fine with you?

Biffer wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:38 pm

Ymx wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:34 pm Sock/Biffer

Well let’s see and hope he gets his just desserts. Especially if the victim is hiding away from it.

A public figure who prominently reads the news of a publicly funded world renowned news source, YES ! you’re damned right they need to be held to high standards. It worries me you think otherwise?

Creepy lefties !

Uh, no, I said his career was done.

sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:17 pm

Ymx wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:44 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:24 pm While it's creepy given the likely age gap, is there actually anything illegal in one person over the age of consent paying another person over the age of consent for naked photos?

Also the fucking gall of The Sun to be going in on someone getting their rocks off to a 17 year old when they paid 16 year olds to appear on page 3 in the not so distant past!

He’s a public figure who may or may not read the news. He’s a beacon for the bbc.

Actually isn’t 18 the age needed for explicit material?

Either way, this child was not allowed to vote yet.

He’s a filthy old scum bag, if true.

Well it should be a slam dunk case then, right? In which case the offender will get his just deserts.

Creepy, yet legal relationships happen all the time, however much we wish they wouldn't. I'm not sure why whether or not someone reads the news should be relevant.

By the way I'm very much in favour of a change to our age of consent laws to eliminate creep possibilities. Ideally no one older than 18 could be with a 16 or 17 year old and I'd be tempted to bring in some sort of upper limit age for the rest of the teen years too, although 18 being age of majority for voting and thus an adult in the eyes of the law would complicate this. Having known an 18 year old at uni chuck her immediate future away on a predatory 37 year old who got her pregnant, I remain convinced that something can and should be done in that area.

CM11 wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:30 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:17 pm

Ymx wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:44 pm

He’s a public figure who may or may not read the news. He’s a beacon for the bbc.

Actually isn’t 18 the age needed for explicit material?

Either way, this child was not allowed to vote yet.

He’s a filthy old scum bag, if true.

Well it should be a slam dunk case then, right? In which case the offender will get his just deserts.

Creepy, yet legal relationships happen all the time, however much we wish they wouldn't. I'm not sure why whether or not someone reads the news should be relevant.

By the way I'm very much in favour of a change to our age of consent laws to eliminate creep possibilities. Ideally no one older than 18 could be with a 16 or 17 year old and I'd be tempted to bring in some sort of upper limit age for the rest of the teen years too, although 18 being age of majority for voting and thus an adult in the eyes of the law would complicate this. Having known an 18 year old at uni chuck her immediate future away on a predatory 37 year old who got her pregnant, I remain convinced that something can and should be done in that area.

I think a general within a few years from the age of consent to maybe 19/20 is more appropriate. No one older than 18 for a 16 year old is fair enough but make it 19 for 17 year old. You might stretch it to three years 18 and 19 year olds. Gives a little protection and pause to think for the older adults. I think once you hit 20/21 you're getting into nanny state, if not there already.

CM11 wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:30 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:17 pm

Ymx wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:44 pm

He’s a public figure who may or may not read the news. He’s a beacon for the bbc.

Actually isn’t 18 the age needed for explicit material?

Either way, this child was not allowed to vote yet.

He’s a filthy old scum bag, if true.

Well it should be a slam dunk case then, right? In which case the offender will get his just deserts.

Creepy, yet legal relationships happen all the time, however much we wish they wouldn't. I'm not sure why whether or not someone reads the news should be relevant.

By the way I'm very much in favour of a change to our age of consent laws to eliminate creep possibilities. Ideally no one older than 18 could be with a 16 or 17 year old and I'd be tempted to bring in some sort of upper limit age for the rest of the teen years too, although 18 being age of majority for voting and thus an adult in the eyes of the law would complicate this. Having known an 18 year old at uni chuck her immediate future away on a predatory 37 year old who got her pregnant, I remain convinced that something can and should be done in that area.

I think a general within a few years from the age of consent to maybe 19/20 is more appropriate. No one older than 18 for a 16 year old is fair enough but make it 19 for 17 year old. You might stretch it to three years 18 and 19 year olds. Gives a little protection and pause to think for the older adults. I think once you hit 20/21 you're getting into nanny state, if not there already.

Ymx wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:49 pm

Biffer wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:38 pm

Ymx wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:34 pm Sock/Biffer

Well let’s see and hope he gets his just desserts. Especially if the victim is hiding away from it.

A public figure who prominently reads the news of a publicly funded world renowned news source, YES ! you’re damned right they need to be held to high standards. It worries me you think otherwise?

Creepy lefties !

Uh, no, I said his career was done.

You said this

“I'm not sure why whether or not someone reads the news should be relevant.”

fishfoodie wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:20 pm

CM11 wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:30 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:17 pm

Well it should be a slam dunk case then, right? In which case the offender will get his just deserts.

Creepy, yet legal relationships happen all the time, however much we wish they wouldn't. I'm not sure why whether or not someone reads the news should be relevant.

By the way I'm very much in favour of a change to our age of consent laws to eliminate creep possibilities. Ideally no one older than 18 could be with a 16 or 17 year old and I'd be tempted to bring in some sort of upper limit age for the rest of the teen years too, although 18 being age of majority for voting and thus an adult in the eyes of the law would complicate this. Having known an 18 year old at uni chuck her immediate future away on a predatory 37 year old who got her pregnant, I remain convinced that something can and should be done in that area.

I think a general within a few years from the age of consent to maybe 19/20 is more appropriate. No one older than 18 for a 16 year old is fair enough but make it 19 for 17 year old. You might stretch it to three years 18 and 19 year olds. Gives a little protection and pause to think for the older adults. I think once you hit 20/21 you're getting into nanny state, if not there already.

This whole area of law is hideously complicated, & should be approached with incredible caution !

As a rough guide, you should look at what's in Irish law, & then make sure you don't do that !

We're an object lesson is why they say "Hard cases make for bad law". The infamous X-Case in Ireland led to both a first stab at codifying a legal route to Abortion, & an initial reform of the statutory rape Laws. Unfortunately, the latter has been in a state of permanent flux ever since, as the State tried to remove the, "honest mistake" defense, & when it was finally challenged, it was found to be unconstitutional, in a decision that didn't surprise a single lawyer, but the Politicians pretended it was a shock.

The latest ticking time bomb in the law is around different scenarios where it is, & isn't an offense if the age delta between those having sex isn't significant, BUT, for some moronic reason the legislators decided to say it's an offense if an 18 year old boy has sex with a 15 year old girl; but if a 18 year old girl has sex with a 15 year old boy, there's no problem

I'd put the distinction between the age of consent of having sex, & taking erotic pictures on the same level of stupidity. If the State has decided that there would be no problem, however creepy, of these two people meeting & having sex, but there is in the swapping dick pics, then the law is yet again, an ass !

None of this is to say I don't find the alleged behavior of this person creepy, but hell lots of shit that people do I may objectionable, but if it's consensual, WTF is it to do with me or anyone else ?

Biffer wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:14 pm

Ymx wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:49 pm

Biffer wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:38 pm

Uh, no, I said his career was done.

You said this

“I'm not sure why whether or not someone reads the news should be relevant.”

I didn’t say that.

Kawazaki wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:10 pm Has anyone else been sent that picture of (what looks like) Huw Edwards via WhatsApp?

Ymx wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:16 am

Kawazaki wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:10 pm Has anyone else been sent that picture of (what looks like) Huw Edwards via WhatsApp?

Did you have to pay for it?

Kawazaki wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:53 am

Ymx wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:16 am

Kawazaki wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:10 pm Has anyone else been sent that picture of (what looks like) Huw Edwards via WhatsApp?

Did you have to pay for it?

Are you familiar with what WhatsApp is?

C69 wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 8:05 am American news sites are now openly naming the man and South Wales police confirmed they are aware of the man.

I suspect given a history of severe and prolonged depression the individual will not want to be interviewed at present.

Ymx wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:42 am

Biffer wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:14 pm

Ymx wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:49 pm

You said this

“I'm not sure why whether or not someone reads the news should be relevant.”

I didn’t say that.

Yeah, true, it was the other creep who that was in response to. So that was aimed at sock.


You were the nothing to see here one who went from

“Not really anything new, not really anything illegal, not really moral, not particularly pleasant.”
(non-story)

to

“If he paid money for pictures when they were under 18 it's a criminal act and he should be prosecuted

Otherwise, It makes him an immoral piece of shit, and hell lose his career most likely”
(convicted or piece of shit)

Ymx wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:42 am

Biffer wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:14 pm

Ymx wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:49 pm

You said this

“I'm not sure why whether or not someone reads the news should be relevant.”

I didn’t say that.

Yeah, true, it was the other creep who that was in response to. So that was aimed at sock.


You were the nothing to see here one who went from

“Not really anything new, not really anything illegal, not really moral, not particularly pleasant.”
(non-story)

to

“If he paid money for pictures when they were under 18 it's a criminal act and he should be prosecuted

Otherwise, It makes him an immoral piece of shit, and hell lose his career most likely”
(convicted or piece of shit)

sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 8:41 am

Ymx wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:42 am

Biffer wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:14 pm

I didn’t say that.

Yeah, true, it was the other creep who that was in response to. So that was aimed at sock.


You were the nothing to see here one who went from

“Not really anything new, not really anything illegal, not really moral, not particularly pleasant.”
(non-story)

to

“If he paid money for pictures when they were under 18 it's a criminal act and he should be prosecuted

Otherwise, It makes him an immoral piece of shit, and hell lose his career most likely”
(convicted or piece of shit)

You're such a weirdo.

As I clarified, I believe in people getting the same punishments if they've committed offences. Hence not thinking the occupation of newsreader is relevant.

Biffer wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 8:54 am

Ymx wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:42 am

Biffer wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:14 pm

I didn’t say that.

Yeah, true, it was the other creep who that was in response to. So that was aimed at sock.


You were the nothing to see here one who went from

“Not really anything new, not really anything illegal, not really moral, not particularly pleasant.”
(non-story)

to

“If he paid money for pictures when they were under 18 it's a criminal act and he should be prosecuted

Otherwise, It makes him an immoral piece of shit, and hell lose his career most likely”
(convicted or piece of shit)

Fuck off you wanker.

If you can’t see the context and understand the word, If, you have a major fucking problem. But we all knew that already. Crawl back under a fucking rock and play with yourself.

Ymx wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:31 am You outright posted a nothing to see here post. Completely trying to diminish it. Creep.

Ymx wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:31 am

Biffer wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 8:54 am

Ymx wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:42 am

Yeah, true, it was the other creep who that was in response to. So that was aimed at sock.


You were the nothing to see here one who went from

“Not really anything new, not really anything illegal, not really moral, not particularly pleasant.”
(non-story)

to

“If he paid money for pictures when they were under 18 it's a criminal act and he should be prosecuted

Otherwise, It makes him an immoral piece of shit, and hell lose his career most likely”
(convicted or piece of shit)

Fuck off you wanker.

If you can’t see the context and understand the word, If, you have a major fucking problem. But we all knew that already. Crawl back under a fucking rock and play with yourself.

You outright posted a nothing to see here post. Completely trying to diminish it. Creep.

Kawazaki wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:10 pm Has anyone else been sent that picture of (what looks like) Huw Edwards via WhatsApp?

C69 wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 8:05 am American news sites are now openly naming the man and South Wales police confirmed they are aware of the man.

I suspect given a history of severe and prolonged depression the individual will not want to be interviewed at present.

SaintK wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:01 am

Kawazaki wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:10 pm Has anyone else been sent that picture of (what looks like) Huw Edwards via WhatsApp?

No!
Are you inferring that a married Welshman with 5 kids who presents the BBC News and other things maybe involved?

Sandstorm wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:55 am £35k for photos.

TB63 wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 8:41 am

C69 wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 8:05 am American news sites are now openly naming the man and South Wales police confirmed they are aware of the man.

I suspect given a history of severe and prolonged depression the individual will not want to be interviewed at present.

Got a link for that? A certain persons mother lives up the road from me in llangenith, but that person resides in Dulwich as far as I'm aware..

sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 11:11 am

Sandstorm wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:55 am £35k for photos.

People sink thousands into Only Fans too apparently. Supposedly the greater sense of personalisation or exclusivity is worth it to some people vs. the free stuff the vast majority of people get off the internet if they feel the need to see someone naked.

Hal Jordan wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:43 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 11:11 am

Sandstorm wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:55 am £35k for photos.

People sink thousands into Only Fans too apparently. Supposedly the greater sense of personalisation or exclusivity is worth it to some people vs. the free stuff the vast majority of people get off the internet if they feel the need to see someone naked.

Or so your friend tells you?