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fishfoodie wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 9:48 pm
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 9:24 pm Aside from the first corner, that was a pretty dull race.
Another thing that has made races like this so boring; is the rooms full of strategists back at base; running thru simulations, on what will happen if you come in this lap, or in five laps time ...

If you just had a couple of blokes with stop watches on the pit wall; you'd have a lot more unpredictability; & drivers getting dropped into worse positions on the track; & having to overtake to get back to position.

Bottas coming in twice to deny Max the fastest lap, was particularly ridiculous too.I don't think that kind of spoiling crap, adds to the race. If you aren't in the top ten, you don't get to take a point off a driver who is in the top ten.
That’s not a bad idea. A point for the fastest lap of the drivers in the points. Would stop that farcical you’re in last place, have a smash at a fast lap.
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ScarfaceClaw wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 10:03 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 9:48 pm
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 9:24 pm Aside from the first corner, that was a pretty dull race.
Another thing that has made races like this so boring; is the rooms full of strategists back at base; running thru simulations, on what will happen if you come in this lap, or in five laps time ...

If you just had a couple of blokes with stop watches on the pit wall; you'd have a lot more unpredictability; & drivers getting dropped into worse positions on the track; & having to overtake to get back to position.

Bottas coming in twice to deny Max the fastest lap, was particularly ridiculous too.I don't think that kind of spoiling crap, adds to the race. If you aren't in the top ten, you don't get to take a point off a driver who is in the top ten.
That’s not a bad idea. A point for the fastest lap of the drivers in the points. Would stop that farcical you’re in last place, have a smash at a fast lap.
I'll go one better :grin:

How about a point for the driver who makes the most overtakes of the day; regardless of their final position ?

Encourage the thing we're all asking for !
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fishfoodie wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 10:24 pm
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 10:03 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 9:48 pm

Another thing that has made races like this so boring; is the rooms full of strategists back at base; running thru simulations, on what will happen if you come in this lap, or in five laps time ...

If you just had a couple of blokes with stop watches on the pit wall; you'd have a lot more unpredictability; & drivers getting dropped into worse positions on the track; & having to overtake to get back to position.

Bottas coming in twice to deny Max the fastest lap, was particularly ridiculous too.I don't think that kind of spoiling crap, adds to the race. If you aren't in the top ten, you don't get to take a point off a driver who is in the top ten.
That’s not a bad idea. A point for the fastest lap of the drivers in the points. Would stop that farcical you’re in last place, have a smash at a fast lap.
I'll go one better :grin:

How about a point for the driver who makes the most overtakes of the day; regardless of their final position ?

Encourage the thing we're all asking for !
So a point for the old guy in a shit car on hard tyres. Yawn.
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Sprint race underway. Hamilton penalised for a dodgy rear wing. Bottas makes a great start and takes first.
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Verstappen has a load of pace and catching Bottas. Coverage focusing on Hamilton for the most part. He’s up to 9th so providing most of the overtakes/excitement in the race.
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Hamilton all over Verstappen. Looking like a Hamilton win coming soon.
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ScarfaceClaw wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:48 pm Hamilton all over Verstappen. Looking like a Hamilton win coming soon.
Not a fan of the DRS - the slipstream on its own is enough for overtakes.
Over the hills and far away........
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salanya wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:09 pm
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:48 pm Hamilton all over Verstappen. Looking like a Hamilton win coming soon.
Not a fan of the DRS - the slipstream on its own is enough for overtakes.
Your “man” has had 2 weeks and can still barely grow a ‘tache :oops:
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Sandstorm wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:56 pm
salanya wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:09 pm
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:48 pm Hamilton all over Verstappen. Looking like a Hamilton win coming soon.
Not a fan of the DRS - the slipstream on its own is enough for overtakes.
Your “man” has had 2 weeks and can still barely grow a ‘tache :oops:
I couldn't have a man who couldn't grow facial hair :wink:

Not sure how it relates to my post, but I quite agree that Max's facial hair is poor.
Over the hills and far away........
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salanya wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:09 pm
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:48 pm Hamilton all over Verstappen. Looking like a Hamilton win coming soon.
Not a fan of the DRS - the slipstream on its own is enough for overtakes.


Cars can't get close enough to exploit the slipstream. Dirty air.
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Massive drama all weekend,

5 drip drop for Engine change
back of grip for tech failure
sprint race
last to first
fines for touching cars
fines for not wearing seatbelts (Steward x-mas party is now covered)
No sanction for pushing a driver off the track (should've been a 5 sec time pen)
Swearing, gestured
Twitter F1 goes fucking nuts

and Ham P1, Max P2 is what were going to get anyway. Thank fuck for all the manufactured drama rescuing what would otherwise have a boring as shit race.
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The Engine penalty is now a complete joke.

Merc can now change engines at will; knowing that the advantage of a zero miles engine is worth way more than the 5 place penalty.
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That's the best Mercedes have looked all season. In the end, Hamilton passed Verstapen with ease.
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Insane_Homer wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:44 pm
Twitter F1 goes fucking nuts
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Twitter has certainly revealed plenty of Dutch racists.
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assfly wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:24 am That's the best Mercedes have looked all season. In the end, Hamilton passed Verstapen with ease.
That straightline speed was unstoppable.

Verstappen lucky with pushing Hamilton wide.
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handyman wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:44 am
assfly wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:24 am That's the best Mercedes have looked all season. In the end, Hamilton passed Verstapen with ease.
That straightline speed was unstoppable.

Verstappen lucky with pushing Hamilton wide.
Masi is a joke, "they both ran wide" my arse
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sturginho wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:07 am
Masi is a joke, "they both ran wide" my arse

Horner said the same thing when asked. I was disappointed that nobody pointed out that Hamilton was only wide to avoid hitting Verstappen. I was also annoyed that nobody thought to reference Silverstone to demonstrate what the driver on the outside can do to avoid contact if the driver on the inside is not on the apex. Of course Hamilton got a 10-second for Silverstone whereas Verstappen got nothing.
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Strong rumour that Audi are buying McLaren lock stock and barrel and will run the F1 team, presumably badged as Audi.
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Kawazaki wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:41 pm Strong rumour that Audi are buying McLaren lock stock and barrel and will run the F1 team, presumably badged as Audi.
Debunked

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The hate for Lewis Hamilton really is something to behold on Twitter.
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Kawazaki wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:59 am The hate for Lewis Hamilton really is something to behold on Twitter.
Probably says more about you and the people you follow, I follow quite a few motor racing & F1 accounts and haven't seen anything that amounts outright 'hate' or racist. :eh:

Anyway, Crofty and Sky F1 have now found and posted the Max onboard video, but I can't seem to play it now. From the comments I gather Max wheel wasn't turning too much to avoid pushing Lewis wide.

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Insane_Homer wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:01 pm Image


:lol:

On Horner's birthday. :thumbup:
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Toto said something along the lines of "if there was a gentlemen's agreement before, there isn't one now" so expect the levels of pettiness to increase!
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I've thought for a while now that Horner, Marko and Newey must be under huge pressure from Dietrich Mateschitz to win at least one of the championships. It's been 8 years since Red Bull have won a championship and in that time, at a conservative estimate, Horner will have spent at least $3.5bn. At the start of the hybrid era they went all in with Newey's high-rake concept and stuck with it despite Mercedes winning year after year with the lwb/low-rake concept. Add to that the way Horner has managed engine suppliers and partner drivers to Verstappen and you can easily imagine that Mateschitz must be wondering if his executive leadership team are the right men to deliver results as F1 transitions into a new rules era. It's also worth noting that Horner really is not well liked at all on social media which, given the prime reason for RBR existing at all is to market fizzy drinks, can't have a positive impact on sales.
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Interesting that the Merc was so much faster than RB given it was fitted with the old engine.

I assume the swapped so the newer one is kept for Saudi.
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Max and Sainz to tangle at corner #1. Here. First.
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Bottas should drive into Max on the first corner, just to see Horner explode.
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Bottas trying his heat to give red bull the lead/let them get a lot closer in the constructors championship here.
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Sandstorm wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 1:46 pm Max and Sainz to tangle at corner #1. Here. First.


More likely Alonso sticks it under Hamilton. He's desperate to screw Lewis.
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Bottas really is hopeless. There's more fight in a wet rag.
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If they put those, "dismantler", kerbs on all the tracks, they wouldn't need to bollix about with track limits every weekend.
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fishfoodie wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 2:17 pm If they put those, "dismantler", kerbs on all the tracks, they wouldn't need to bollix about with track limits every weekend.
Good call
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Dad just texted me to say Frank Williams has passed. Sad day. Have so many childhood memories wrapped into those late 80s, early 90s Williams teams. Was at the 91 & 92 British GP when Mansell mania was at its peak.

Watched his documentary last year and he was such a tough, dogged bloke who kept going despite all the odds being stacked against him in his early days of racing.

RIP Frank.
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Hugo wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:22 pm Dad just texted me to say Frank Williams has passed. Sad day. Have so many childhood memories wrapped into those late 80s, early 90s Williams teams. Was at the 91 & 92 British GP when Mansell mania was at its peak.

Watched his documentary last year and he was such a tough, dogged bloke who kept going despite all the odds being stacked against him in his early days of racing.

RIP Frank.
RIP
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RIP
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RIP Sir Frank. A stalwart of F1 and a true racer in every respect. He leaves an amazing legacy.
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Perez slower than Alonso,& Vettel, in P1 ... :thumbdown:

Pull your socks up boy !
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how does the circuit look? from watching romain grosjean's preview on YT it looks boring AF
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