Cartman wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:42 pm
Is Willemse definitely out?
I guess he can still pass that second HIA thing, like Sexton did
He looked all right when he walked off He certainly brings more energy to the backline but needs to improve his kicking if he wants to keep Pollard out in the future
This. Though I quite Enjoy him playing 10 are the Moment for the boks, His kicking will stand in his way to become the incumbent no 10. I still think his best position is 12, though with DDA and Esterhuizen he has quite the competition.
Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:59 am
by Ymx
Ah, of course, I was wondering why they didn’t take the 3. They were gunning for the BP to keep RC in check.
So both NZ and SA at the top with 14 points.
Aus back with 10.
Arg on 9, who are out.
Aus needs to win with BP, and need Puma to beat the boks.
Between NZ and SA
SA are 13 points behind in for and against. So if they beat the pumas with BP and NZ don’t beat Aus with BP, then SA wins.
Or if only one of the two win they win the RC.
So, it will all come down to last match. Massive advantage here in playing second.
Got to say Boks are favourites to take the title now.
Cartman wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:42 pm
Is Willemse definitely out?
I guess he can still pass that second HIA thing, like Sexton did
He looked all right when he walked off He certainly brings more energy to the backline but needs to improve his kicking if he wants to keep Pollard out in the future
This. Though I quite Enjoy him playing 10 are the Moment for the boks, His kicking will stand in his way to become the incumbent no 10. I still think his best position is 12, though with DDA and Esterhuizen he has quite the competition.
He was knocked out like a boxer. Can't see him pass that test. His defense was also outstanding like when we were 13 men.
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 9:40 pm
Great win. Boks show real character to pinch that bonus point. Hats off to Louw and Fourie poaching in the end.
I The last round is going to be a rat race for the trophy.
We need to find a 10 real quick.
Francois Steyn, and call up Tyrone Green
Tyrone Green? What are you smoking? Think KL Arendse is back this weekend
Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:32 am
by Biffer
Ymx wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 8:41 am
78.25: Penalty.
78.50: Raynal – “Play on please”.
78.55: Raynal – “Quick play”.
78.56: Raynal blows time off. “Time off.
7 seconds elapses. “You play now. Time on.”
Three seconds.
78.59: Raynal “Ten?” – Foley looks back, begins kick.
79.04: Blows freekick
Also, this
Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:17 am
by Certain Navigator
Ymx wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:59 am
Ah, of course, I was wondering why they didn’t take the 3. They were gunning for the BP to keep RC in check.
So both NZ and SA at the top with 14 points.
Aus back with 10.
Arg on 9, who are out.
Aus needs to win with BP, and need Puma to beat the boks.
Between NZ and SA
SA are 13 points behind in for and against. So if they beat the pumas with BP and NZ don’t beat Aus with BP, then SA wins.
Or if only one of the two win they win the RC.
So, it will all come down to last match. Massive advantage here in playing second.
Got to say Boks are favourites to take the title now.
I doubt if the TAB would agree. The ABs are (i) in front and (ii) at Eden Park, so the odds must surely favour them. Last year it was 57-22 to the ABs at Auckland, which if repeated this year would require SA to beat Argentina by 49 points!
Basically, everything needs to go well for the Boks while it only needs to go as expected for the ABs. Which obviously doesn't mean the Boks won't win, but the balance of probabilities don't favour them.
Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:25 am
by OomStruisbaai
Will be a bonus if the Bokke win the trophy.
More important is that if we play well , we look in far better prepared for the WC then any of the TRC team.
Ymx wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:59 am
Ah, of course, I was wondering why they didn’t take the 3. They were gunning for the BP to keep RC in check.
So both NZ and SA at the top with 14 points.
Aus back with 10.
Arg on 9, who are out.
Aus needs to win with BP, and need Puma to beat the boks.
Between NZ and SA
SA are 13 points behind in for and against. So if they beat the pumas with BP and NZ don’t beat Aus with BP, then SA wins.
Or if only one of the two win they win the RC.
So, it will all come down to last match. Massive advantage here in playing second.
Got to say Boks are favourites to take the title now.
I doubt if the TAB would agree. The ABs are (i) in front and (ii) at Eden Park, so the odds must surely favour them. Last year it was 57-22 to the ABs at Auckland, which if repeated this year would require SA to beat Argentina by 49 points!
Basically, everything needs to go well for the Boks while it only needs to go as expected for the ABs. Which obviously doesn't mean the Boks won't win, but the balance of probabilities don't favour them.
Boks v Pumas is the last match. If the All Blacks win with a bonus point, the Boks will know what they need to do. Could be worth a winning margin bet, we've seen teams get improbably high scores before when they know they're required.
Ymx wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:59 am
Ah, of course, I was wondering why they didn’t take the 3. They were gunning for the BP to keep RC in check.
So both NZ and SA at the top with 14 points.
Aus back with 10.
Arg on 9, who are out.
Aus needs to win with BP, and need Puma to beat the boks.
Between NZ and SA
SA are 13 points behind in for and against. So if they beat the pumas with BP and NZ don’t beat Aus with BP, then SA wins.
Or if only one of the two win they win the RC.
So, it will all come down to last match. Massive advantage here in playing second.
Got to say Boks are favourites to take the title now.
I doubt if the TAB would agree. The ABs are (i) in front and (ii) at Eden Park, so the odds must surely favour them. Last year it was 57-22 to the ABs at Auckland, which if repeated this year would require SA to beat Argentina by 49 points!
Basically, everything needs to go well for the Boks while it only needs to go as expected for the ABs. Which obviously doesn't mean the Boks won't win, but the balance of probabilities don't favour them.
Boks v Pumas is the last match. If the All Blacks win with a bonus point, the Boks will know what they need to do. Could be worth a winning margin bet, we've seen teams get improbably high scores before when they know they're required.
Exactly.
It’s a great grandstand finale for the RC.
Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:14 pm
by Big D
Seen the clip of Raynal explaining hid decision to White rather than "running away" as was reported. Fair play to him for that.
Based on the footage and him clearly telling Oz to get on with it I no longer think it is that harsh even if it was unusual.
Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:19 pm
by Ymx
This is the best footage of it. And the chat afterwards.
Ironically followed by a parochial whine fest by the Aussies.
Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:34 pm
by Big D
Ymx wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:19 pm
This is the best footage of it. And the chat afterwards.
Ironically followed by a parochial whine fest by the Aussies.
To be fair they should be raging. The ref was wrong... should have been a free kick not a scrum.
Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:13 pm
by OomStruisbaai
The All Blacks opt the scrum after the free kick was given.
Libbok. Most definitely. You must understand. Libbok has played at the Bulls, Sharks and Stormers. He knows everyone
So, you would be quite happy to fly in an uncapped player that has not been involved in the Bok camp at all during the RC or the Wales tests? A player whose form can be quite hot or cold on his day? In a must win game for the Boks?
Right... Nienaber and co must rather fly you in to Arg and start mining your obviously vast rugby intellect.
Ymx wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:19 pm
This is the best footage of it. And the chat afterwards.
Ironically followed by a parochial whine fest by the Aussies.
To be fair they should be raging. The ref was wrong... should have been a free kick not a scrum.
That’s actually a very good point.
Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 4:44 pm
by Big D
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:13 pm
The All Blacks opt the scrum after the free kick was given.
Looked to me like he awarded the scrum without indicating a free kick 1st.
Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:26 pm
by Ymx
I didn’t think you could opt for a scrum from a free kick?
I thought that was your point.
Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:50 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Maybe Sanzar should allow a final for the two top teams. Springbokke vs All Blacks final will be nice.
Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:03 pm
by boere wors
Ymx wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:19 pm
This is the best footage of it. And the chat afterwards.
Ironically followed by a parochial whine fest by the Aussies.
Raynal appears to be pissed off at the end of the conversation, with the aussies or nic white. From the way he tells him "if you didnt think i'm capable...". Was there more to it?
Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:05 pm
by Ymx
“If you think I’m not capable (to give a str… ) you make a mistake. Now you know it (finger pointed at chest)!”
Not quite sure the word he used. Perhaps an acronym.
Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:27 pm
by boere wors
Ymx wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:05 pm
“If you think I’m not capable (to give a str… ) you make a mistake. Now you know it (finger pointed at chest)!”
Not quite sure the word he used. Perhaps an acronym.
yeah, the way he tells him that, there seems to have happend something earlier in the game. he seems pissed off
Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:42 pm
by Ymx
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:50 pm
Maybe Sanzar should allow a final for the two top teams. Springbokke vs All Blacks final will be nice.
I think I agree. Would be nice to have it played in a neutral stadium like twickenham. (Just up the road.)
Though it might just prove too many matches between the same teams, and feel a little tedious.
Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:39 pm
by Paddington Bear
Ymx wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:05 pm
“If you think I’m not capable (to give a str… ) you make a mistake. Now you know it (finger pointed at chest)!”
Not quite sure the word he used. Perhaps an acronym.
Always worth remembering this is his second language and he is far from fluent.
Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:00 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Nobody would be surprised if the Springbok doctor is treating the players for a persecution complex but when they land in Durban on Monday morning it is to the good news that Hollywoodbets Kings Park is sold out for the return fixture against Argentina, and the Boks won’t find a doomsayer amongst the festive 46 000.
Deepsouth wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:28 amRichard Lowe and Colin Meads send their regards.
The hypocrisy is quite something to see.....
Is it just... in that case I'm sure you're able to provide plenty of examples of Kiwi posters vociferously defending Loe and Meads.
Can't wait...
I doubt wheter there were very many posters who actually saw the Meads thing on field ot TV, I have never seen a clip of it as games weren't even televised then.
I saw the Loe thing and thought at time as a one eyed AB supporter it was a dog act! Ref couldn't do much as I doubt he saw and ARs etc weren't part of game, so felt for him.
Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:31 pm
by Gumboot
Dan54 wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:11 pmI doubt wheter there were very many posters who actually saw the Meads thing on field ot TV, I have never seen a clip of it as games weren't even televised then.
I saw the Loe thing and thought at time as a one eyed AB supporter it was a dog act! Ref couldn't do much as I doubt he saw and ARs etc weren't part of game, so felt for him.
I've been told by some older Aussie mates that Meads actually ripped Catchpole's leg off and threw it into the stands, so that's good enough for me.
Loe was an equal opportunities thug - his favourite victims were Aussies, but his Kiwi opponents weren't safe either. Hard to forget the sickening sight of Greg Copper getting eye-gouged in the NPC Final.
Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:52 pm
by Cartman
Who's the guy on the left on the panel please?
Name escapes me now
Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 1:11 am
by Kiwias
Ymx wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:19 pm
This is the best footage of it. And the chat afterwards.
Ironically followed by a parochial whine fest by the Aussies.
FFS, do your fucking homework!! It did not cost the Aussies the Bledisloe Cup. Raynal's decision did not even mean that the ABs won the match, they still had to score a try, something the Wobblies should have been able to defend.
Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 5:08 am
by Enzedder
Cartman wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:52 pm
Who's the guy on the left on the panel please?
Name escapes me now
Cartman wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:52 pm
Who's the guy on the left on the panel please?
Name escapes me now
Mark (Tubby) Taylor - cricketer
The perfect commentator on a rugby test.
Years of experience in bringing offended outrage to the mic
Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 5:47 am
by assfly
This has actually been the most entertaining RC I have watched in years. It's great that it comes down to the last weekend.
Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:31 am
by convoluted
I vaguely recall the commentators mentioning toward the close of the first half, with two Aussies sitting in the sin bin, that the ref was giving Foley a hurry up on a penalty kick to touch. The commentators noted something to the effect that Foley was trying to crib seconds off play while two men down.
And I've just been reminded by a comment in the NZ Herald that of course it was Foley himself who threw the blatant forward pass that led to an Aussie try. He was then twice told to hold on the conversion for a TMO check but knowing the try would consequently be rubbed out Foley ignored that instruction and converted, at which stage the try had to stand.
Kiwias wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:36 am
Has there been any word on the Tribunal hearing on the Scum?
The hearing is tonight.
I had assumed it was in the daytime. Thanks
Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 10:26 am
by Chilli
Kiwias wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:36 am
Has there been any word on the Tribunal hearing on the Scum?
Nik White has finally been sanctioned for his theatrics?
Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:13 am
by boere wors
convoluted wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:31 am
I vaguely recall the commentators mentioning toward the close of the first half, with two Aussies sitting in the sin bin, that the ref was giving Foley a hurry up on a penalty kick to touch. The commentators noted something to the effect that Foley was trying to crib seconds off play while two men down.
And I've just been reminded by a comment in the NZ Herald that of course it was Foley himself who threw the blatant forward pass that led to an Aussie try. He was then twice told to hold on the conversion for a TMO check but knowing the try would consequently be rubbed out Foley ignored that instruction and converted, at which stage the try had to stand.
There. That explains why Reynal was so pissed off at the end with white and foley
Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:15 am
by boere wors
assfly wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 5:47 am
This has actually been the most entertaining RC I have watched in years. It's great that it comes down to the last weekend.
YThe past 20 years it has usually been NZ dominating. Not amy more, so suddenly we have a proper tournament.
