The unknown is; they've made some changes to the track this year to increase the opportunities for overtaking; but who knows if they'll work.

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It will really depend on the cars. I'd expect Russell to be a lot closer to both than Bottas. With the right car he could provide a challenge. Leclerc and Norris could be racy in a competitive car too. Although I don't think Norris is as quick as the others.JM2K6 wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:54 pmUnless he kills someone (or himself) I can't see how Max won't dominate as soon as Lewis retires. At some point he will be forced to wind his neck in, even if it's just because there'll be no real opposition to him, and the sport will be all the better for it.sturginho wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:45 pmI also think that the pressure is getting to him. He may never get a better chance to win world championshipLobby wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:10 pm
Lewis also knows how far he can push it, and when to back off. Max's approach is basically never to give way under any circumstances, and to always expect the other driver to back off and give way.
They'll be good, but I do think Verstappen is a generational talent.Big D wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:11 pmIt will really depend on the cars. I'd expect Russell to be a lot closer to both than Bottas. With the right car he could provide a challenge. Leclerc and Norris could be racy in a competitive car too. Although I don't think Norris is as quick as the others.JM2K6 wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:54 pmUnless he kills someone (or himself) I can't see how Max won't dominate as soon as Lewis retires. At some point he will be forced to wind his neck in, even if it's just because there'll be no real opposition to him, and the sport will be all the better for it.sturginho wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:45 pm
I also think that the pressure is getting to him. He may never get a better chance to win world championship
Thor Sedan wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:06 pm For those of the big F1 brain - whose car set up will Abu Dhabi suit?
‘I respect Hamilton as a driver, but the rest…nothing’
Cmon Lewis!After a 1998 incident at a karting track in which a man suffered a fractured skull, Verstappen and his father were found guilty in court of assault but were each given a five-year suspended jail sentence after reaching an out-of-court settlement with the victim.[34]
In December 2008, with the couple effectively separated, Verstappen appeared in court in Tongeren, Belgium, charged with assaulting his wife.[35] He was found not guilty of assault, but guilty of threatening Kumpen in text messages and of violating a previously issued restraining order. He was fined and sentenced to three months probational, suspended prison sentence.[36]
On 29 November 2011, the media reported allegations that Verstappen had assaulted his ex-girlfriend; Verstappen claimed to only have had a discussion with her.[37] In January 2012, he was arrested on attempted murder charges following accusations that he drove a car into his ex-girlfriend in Roermond,[38] but released two weeks later after the charge was withdrawn.[39] Verstappen and his ex-girlfriend, Kelly van der Waal, got back together and were married in 2014. They have one daughter, Blue Jaye, born in September 2014.[40] They divorced on 2 June 2017.[41]
Insane_Homer wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:38 am After a 1998 incident at a karting track in which a man suffered a fractured skull, Verstappen and his father were found guilty in court of assault but were each given a five-year suspended jail sentence after reaching an out-of-court settlement with the victim.[34]
Kawazaki wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:45 pmInsane_Homer wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:38 am After a 1998 incident at a karting track in which a man suffered a fractured skull, Verstappen and his father were found guilty in court of assault but were each given a five-year suspended jail sentence after reaching an out-of-court settlement with the victim.[34]
Eh?
How old was Max in 1998?!
About 1 year oldMax Emilian Verstappen is a Belgian-Dutch racing driver currently competing in Formula One, under the Dutch flag, with Red Bull Racing. At the 2015 Australian Grand Prix, when he was aged 17 years, 166 days, he became the youngest driver to compete in Formula One.
That is about his Dad and presumably Grandad.Kawazaki wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:45 pmInsane_Homer wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:38 am After a 1998 incident at a karting track in which a man suffered a fractured skull, Verstappen and his father were found guilty in court of assault but were each given a five-year suspended jail sentence after reaching an out-of-court settlement with the victim.[34]
Eh?
How old was Max in 1998?!
Big D wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:10 pmThat is about his Dad and presumably Grandad.Kawazaki wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:45 pmInsane_Homer wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:38 am After a 1998 incident at a karting track in which a man suffered a fractured skull, Verstappen and his father were found guilty in court of assault but were each given a five-year suspended jail sentence after reaching an out-of-court settlement with the victim.[34]
Eh?
How old was Max in 1998?!
The most striking incident came in 2012 after a crash in a World Cup race. A rival was ahead. “I decided I wanted to overtake him straightaway,” Max said. “It was a bit stupid and I crashed. My dad was really upset and disappointed in me.” He was left to pick up the pieces of his dismembered kart by himself before climbing into the van for the torturous journey home. “I wanted to talk about my opinion about the incident but he didn’t. I kept trying. He stopped at a fuel station and told me to get out.”
His father points out that he knew Max’s mother was following a few kilometres behind, but he ended up going back to pick him up anyway. “For me he did everything very relaxed and it was all very easy,” Jos said. “I really wanted him to feel the pain.” They drove 1,000km in silence and Verstappen did not speak to his son for a week, saying the discomfort was instructive.
It’s because Jos Verstappen has been having a go at Hamilton this week, and claiming that he and Max are great friends with all the other drivers, but can’t stand Lewis.Ymx wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:53 pm It’s a bit of a odd thing to put against Max, because his dad is a cvnt.
If anything, poor guy having to grow up with an ass hole like that, and for being conditioned to it.
He didn’t speak to his son for a week, because of a racing incident.
Jos and his father you moronKawazaki wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:45 pmInsane_Homer wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:38 am After a 1998 incident at a karting track in which a man suffered a fractured skull, Verstappen and his father were found guilty in court of assault but were each given a five-year suspended jail sentence after reaching an out-of-court settlement with the victim.[34]
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How old was Max in 1998?!
Technically it's an ident on their own channels and it's the same video clips they've been using all year just with added "Merry Christmas" textYmx wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 7:44 am Sky showing an Ad with a slow motion crash of Verstappen with the message “merry Christmas”.
Classy !
Yeah, great lap. Softs should be good for staying ahead on the first lap, but after a few laps it'll be advantage Mercedes.Ymx wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:07 pm Go Verstappen, takes the pole to set up an exciting day. Though will be on the softs.
Very clever of Red Bull to coordinate their drivers to give Max a tow on his hot lap, and for him to then reciprocate for Perez on the next lap.salanya wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:22 pmYeah, great lap. Softs should be good for staying ahead on the first lap, but after a few laps it'll be advantage Mercedes.Ymx wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:07 pm Go Verstappen, takes the pole to set up an exciting day. Though will be on the softs.
And to add to comments above: it's no secret that Jos Verstappen is a bit of a dick. No excuses.
But apart from being a bit of a brat in his teenage days (like many teenagers), as far as we know Max has only shown himself to be a very dedicated and talented driver.
Doesn't mean people have to like him, but he's not his father.
Yeah, Jos has committed actual crimes, whereas Max is just a petulant entitled little shit.salanya wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:22 pmYeah, great lap. Softs should be good for staying ahead on the first lap, but after a few laps it'll be advantage Mercedes.Ymx wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:07 pm Go Verstappen, takes the pole to set up an exciting day. Though will be on the softs.
And to add to comments above: it's no secret that Jos Verstappen is a bit of a dick. No excuses.
But apart from being a bit of a brat in his teenage days (like many teenagers), as far as we know Max has only shown himself to be a very dedicated and talented driver.
Doesn't mean people have to like him, but he's not his father.
Yep - it's going to come down to strategy mid race and Red Bull have been bossing that area this season.JM2K6 wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:39 pm Surprised to see Hamilton at evens on Betfair - think Max has a big advantage here. It's his title to lose.
Insane_Homer wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 7:31 amJos and his father you moronKawazaki wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:45 pmInsane_Homer wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:38 am After a 1998 incident at a karting track in which a man suffered a fractured skull, Verstappen and his father were found guilty in court of assault but were each given a five-year suspended jail sentence after reaching an out-of-court settlement with the victim.[34]
Eh?
How old was Max in 1998?!
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:39 pmYeah, Jos has committed actual crimes, whereas Max is just a petulant entitled little shit.salanya wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:22 pmYeah, great lap. Softs should be good for staying ahead on the first lap, but after a few laps it'll be advantage Mercedes.Ymx wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:07 pm Go Verstappen, takes the pole to set up an exciting day. Though will be on the softs.
And to add to comments above: it's no secret that Jos Verstappen is a bit of a dick. No excuses.
But apart from being a bit of a brat in his teenage days (like many teenagers), as far as we know Max has only shown himself to be a very dedicated and talented driver.
Doesn't mean people have to like him, but he's not his father.