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Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:53 pm
by Grandpa
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:24 pm
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:19 pm
Number 10 - DMac had a horrible first half. But was this because he had no platform? He had to play very deep all the time as had barely any front foot ball. Compare that to how he performed against Argentina when he was near faultless. The point being, if the forwards aren't doing their job we'll probably lose no matter who is at 10... after halftime the All Black forwards were so much better.. obviously had a rocket at halftime from Schmidt... and a gentle cuddle from Fozzie... and DMac suddenly looked himself again and wasn't kicking away stupidly... Richie came on and showed his class, but I suspect we probably would have still won had DMac stayed on... momentum was already shifting...
He kicked the ball badly and aimlessly. Missed touch on a penalty, kick the ball dead, sliced into the centre of the field when there was loads of space to aim for. His running was headless and offered nothing to those outside him. He killed any hope of fluidity or a platform in the backs.
Yup, I really like DMac but he was absolute piss bar some nice little runs. No excuses, it's all on him.
Cane was anonymous and comfortably outplayed by his opposite number.
Yeah not disputing DMac played badly first half... just saying that the forwards were so poor it didn't give him much of a platform to work off... and agree some of his kicks were awful... just hope this performance doesn't reappear at the World Cup.. if it does, it probably means our forwards are under pressure and Richie Mounga is injured...
As for Cane. The less said the better... I'm not a big fan, and something is wrong if your captain is hooked with ten minutes to go and the game in the balance... I wonder if his neck is still troubling him...
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:54 pm
by Sandstorm
10-3 Argies
37 mins
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:55 pm
by Sards
Sandstorm wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:54 pm
10-3 Argies
37 mins
Hmmmmm....some bad luck the boks. They really need time
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:56 pm
by Sandstorm
Sards wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:55 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:54 pm
10-3 Argies
37 mins
Hmmmmm....some bad luck the boks. They really need time
They need to stop giving away penalty after penalty
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:57 pm
by Chilli
Let's hope that Orrie never plays for the Boks again.
He is properly shit.
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:58 pm
by Sandstorm
Chilli wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:57 pm
Let's hope that Orrie never plays for the Boks again.
He is properly shit.
He looks fat.
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:00 pm
by Chilli
dabooldawg wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:52 pm
Chilli wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:41 pm
Reinach is fucking clueless.
Couple of half breaks, decent passing so far, and won a turnover penalty.
Your bias is showing chief. Theres far worse players in green... I mean teal on the pitch so far. Libbok has done literally fokkol, Dean Fourie is there to make up the nrs, has kleyn touched the ball?, Am and also Mostert is a shadow of his former self.
But sure, Reinach is the problem m
Orrie. Shit
Fourie. Old and shit
Lobbok. Shit.
Reinach,. Shit.
Not the only one.
Are you an Ox multi, Chief?
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:01 pm
by Chilli
Sandstorm wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:58 pm
Chilli wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:57 pm
Let's hope that Orrie never plays for the Boks again.
He is properly shit.
He looks fat.
Fat and shit.
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:06 pm
by Slick
Chilli wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:01 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:58 pm
Chilli wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:57 pm
Let's hope that Orrie never plays for the Boks again.
He is properly shit.
He looks fat.
Fat and shit.
Properly fat and shit
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:10 pm
by _Os_
They're not taking this seriously. That's what it means when the Boks are spinning it this much, taking this many 50/50 options, there was even a kick pass out wide which was immediately kick passed back inside to a player that was offside. Boks got on top of the Pumas early on, then got windgat and took too many risks. Now we're down when we probably had the better of that half, went over the line twice with no try.
They need to tighten it up and get conservative, get Andre at 12 into the game more instead of cutting him out which Libbok is doing every time he passes.
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:16 pm
by Sandstorm
_Os_ wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:10 pm
They're not taking this seriously. That's what it means when the Boks are spinning it this much, taking this many 50/50 options, there was even a kick pass out wide which was immediately kick passed back inside to a player that was offside. Boks got on top of the Pumas early on, then got windgat and took too many risks. Now we're down when we probably had the better of that half, went over the line twice with no try.
They need to tighten it up and get conservative, get Andre at 12 into the game more instead of cutting him out which Libbok is doing every time he passes.
Good advice coach. Boks score immediately
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:17 pm
by Chilli
About fucking time too.
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:18 pm
by Chilli
Manie ACTUALLY kick some points?
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:19 pm
by _Os_
Kriel booking his place with that.
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:20 pm
by Sandstorm
Moody scores a beaut. Argies still in the change room.
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:21 pm
by Chilli
Super try.
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:22 pm
by Sards
Give me tall wingers any day
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:22 pm
by Chilli
We can't afford to have flakey Manie and Flakey Wazza on the field together.
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:23 pm
by Sandstorm
Sards wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:22 pm
Give me tall wingers any day
Amen
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:24 pm
by Chilli
Deon Fourie is the epitome of a Currie Cup player.
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:25 pm
by _Os_
Training ground move, Andre gets the pass the Puma defence closes up, Andre flips it back to Libbok for the cross field kick out wide.
Lets hope they don't get windgat again after those two tries.
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:26 pm
by Sandstorm
Chilli wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:24 pm
Deon Fourie is the epitome of a Currie Cup player.
He’s too small against the huge Argue pack. So is Mostert. Getting knocked back too easily.
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:26 pm
by Sandstorm
15-13 Boks
52 mins
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:30 pm
by Chilli
Hak, Hak, Libbok is KAK!
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:30 pm
by Sandstorm
Manie skop kak
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:31 pm
by Sards
A lot of changes
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:32 pm
by Sards
Oh vok....Jantjies
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:33 pm
by Sandstorm
Sards wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:32 pm
Oh vok....Jantjies
Boxkick time

Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:34 pm
by Sards
Loving Caanan
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:34 pm
by _Os_
Sandstorm wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:30 pm
Manie skop kak
Can't take a place kicker to the RWC that's sub 80% with the boot and random. Madness.
Isn't there just some platteland wooden 10 out there that can just place kick and nothing else, used to have stacks of those guys in storage.
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:35 pm
by Sards
I think they are having a kicking practice session
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:35 pm
by bok_viking
This is why Libbok cannot be the starting flyhalf in any must win pressure games. Unless there is another kicker playing as well. You never know if the 10% or 80% kicker is going to turn up. Just cannot rely on him to get us the points in a close game.
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:36 pm
by Sandstorm
_Os_ wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:34 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:30 pm
Manie skop kak
Can't take a place kicker to the RWC that's sub 80% with the boot and random. Madness.
Isn't there just some platteland wooden 10 out there that can just place kick and nothing else, used to have stacks of those guys in storage.
Nope. That’s why we tried a winger against NZ off the tee
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:36 pm
by bok_viking
Are they trying to lose the game? Keep on giving Libbok the ball to kick to posts
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:40 pm
by Sandstorm
bok_viking wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:36 pm
Are they trying to lose the game? Keep on giving Libbok the ball to kick to posts
Lineout is also ropey, mate
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:42 pm
by Sards
bok_viking wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:35 pm
This is why Libbok cannot be the starting flyhalf in any must win pressure games. Unless there is another kicker playing as well. You never know if the 10% or 80% kicker is going to turn up. Just cannot rely on him to get us the points in a close game.
He didn't give up and ask someone else to kick. Give it time
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:43 pm
by Sandstorm
Libbok long-range pen
21-13
67 mins
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:44 pm
by bok_viking
Sandstorm wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:40 pm
bok_viking wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:36 pm
Are they trying to lose the game? Keep on giving Libbok the ball to kick to posts
Lineout is also ropey, mate
I think we have a better chance from the lineout than with Libbok's kicking today. Percentage wise the lineouts were doing better

still crap all around apart from a couple of players
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:45 pm
by Sandstorm
Moody has been fantastic tonight. MOM for sure
Re: W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:46 pm
by bok_viking
Sards wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:42 pm
bok_viking wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:35 pm
This is why Libbok cannot be the starting flyhalf in any must win pressure games. Unless there is another kicker playing as well. You never know if the 10% or 80% kicker is going to turn up. Just cannot rely on him to get us the points in a close game.
He didn't give up and ask someone else to kick. Give it time
In a tight game against Ireland, France or the All Blacks, maybe even Scotland we cannot give hime time for 60 minutes to figure out how to kick. By then we we will have lost the game.