W4 Pumas vs Springboks v2 & bled part 2
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Squad off to Argentina
Full Bok tour squad: Props: Thomas du Toit, Steven Kitshoff, Vincent Koch, Gerhard Steenekamp, Trevor Nyakane. Hookers: Bongi Mbonambi, Joseph Dweba. Locks: Lood de Jager, Jean Kleyn, Marvin Orie. Loose forwards: Jean-Luc du Preez, Evan Roos, Jasper Wiese. Utility forwards: Deon Fourie, Franco Mostert. Scrumhalves: Jaden Hendrikse, Herschel Jantjies, Cobus Reinach. Flyhalf: Manie Libbok. Centres: Lukhanyo Am, Andre Esterhuizen, Jesse Kriel. Outside backs: Makazole Mapimpi, Canan Moodie, Kurt-Lee Arendse. Utility back: Damian Willemse.
Players left in SA: Pieter-Steph du Toit, Eben Etzebeth, Siya Kolisi, Frans Malherbe, Malcolm Marx, Ox Nche, Kwagga Smith, RG Snyman, Marco van Staden, Duane Vermeulen, Damian de Allende, Faf de Klerk, Cheslin Kolbe, Willie le Roux, Handre Pollard, Grant Williams.
Full Bok tour squad: Props: Thomas du Toit, Steven Kitshoff, Vincent Koch, Gerhard Steenekamp, Trevor Nyakane. Hookers: Bongi Mbonambi, Joseph Dweba. Locks: Lood de Jager, Jean Kleyn, Marvin Orie. Loose forwards: Jean-Luc du Preez, Evan Roos, Jasper Wiese. Utility forwards: Deon Fourie, Franco Mostert. Scrumhalves: Jaden Hendrikse, Herschel Jantjies, Cobus Reinach. Flyhalf: Manie Libbok. Centres: Lukhanyo Am, Andre Esterhuizen, Jesse Kriel. Outside backs: Makazole Mapimpi, Canan Moodie, Kurt-Lee Arendse. Utility back: Damian Willemse.
Players left in SA: Pieter-Steph du Toit, Eben Etzebeth, Siya Kolisi, Frans Malherbe, Malcolm Marx, Ox Nche, Kwagga Smith, RG Snyman, Marco van Staden, Duane Vermeulen, Damian de Allende, Faf de Klerk, Cheslin Kolbe, Willie le Roux, Handre Pollard, Grant Williams.
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Last chance to get in the WC squad. Team maybe
KLA, Mapimpi, Am, AE, Moodie, Willemse, Jantjies, Roos,JldP, Fourie, Kleyn, Lood, Koch, Dweba, Trevor
KLA, Mapimpi, Am, AE, Moodie, Willemse, Jantjies, Roos,JldP, Fourie, Kleyn, Lood, Koch, Dweba, Trevor
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Going to be a though day at the office for the boks
That side is set up to fail. All part of the masterplan
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KLA to the bench, Willemse in 15, Libbok 10. Hendricks will probably start in 9 , Herschel on the bench.
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Your Faf and Willie like team failed heavily at home. Time to give the others a chance.
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Boet look, I don't mind when Faf kick in our own half, but yesterday he did on the Pumas 22m. I vokken got totally crazy when he does.
It makes me drink too much.OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 11:45 amBoet look, I don't mind when Faf kick in our own half, but yesterday he did on the Pumas 22m. I vokken got totally crazy when he does.
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Lost my shit when he did thatOomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 11:45 amBoet look, I don't mind when Faf kick in our own half, but yesterday he did on the Pumas 22m. I vokken got totally crazy when he does.

WTF are you talking about....vokkof with your provincial bias you old titOomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:57 amYour Faf and Willie like team failed heavily at home. Time to give the others a chance.
I don't think you actually watched the game.....I watched it a second time and Faf passed a shit load.....problem is he passed to the forwards mostly...our kick chase was very poor on his up and unders which were very contestable....those small wings werent up to the job......go have another look. You might realise you are a tit for making that statement. Manie and Willie were very good at their little chip kicks and kicks to the wings....once again the wings were too small..
Our kick and chase and contesting of the high ball has gone down a lot of knots.....against New Zealand we were badly exposed with lots of knock ons from the likes of Willemse etc.
Willie actually made team of the week this past weekend.....so obviously someone knows more than the tits on here
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I still reckon this team is set up to fail.......these are the players the public are querying for starter positions , and failure against the Argies at home , after the boys left behind almost lost it at home.....will put the nail in some coffins
Argies will be playing their best team and thats going to be a challenge. I hope the boys do it.....and don't go complainig on social media about 16 players on the field against the boks...
Argies will be playing their best team and thats going to be a challenge. I hope the boys do it.....and don't go complainig on social media about 16 players on the field against the boks...
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FixedSards wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:56 amI don't think you actually watched the game.....I watched it a second time and Faf kicked a shit load.....problem is he passed to the forwards mostly...our kick chase was very poor on his up and unders which were very contestable....those small wings werent up to the job......go have another look. You might realise you are a tit for making that statement. Manie and Willie were very good at their little chip kicks and kicks to the wings....once again the wings were too small..
Our kick and chase and contesting of the high ball has gone down a lot of knots.....against New Zealand we were badly exposed with lots of knock ons from the likes of Willemse etc.
Willie actually made team of the week this past weekend.....so obviously someone knows more than the tits on here
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This will make me watching netbal. If RasNaber think we will win a WC with this kak we just may aswell hand over the WC to the All BlacksLoveOfTheGame wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:38 amLost my shit when he did thatOomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 11:45 amBoet look, I don't mind when Faf kick in our own half, but yesterday he did on the Pumas 22m. I vokken got totally crazy when he does.![]()
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Check your stats first Sards.Sards wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:07 am Has anyone got stats for the argies match or a platform where I can find individual stats on kick percentages etc just so we can put all the tits to bed.
Would also like to see the stats on the New Zealand match
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You $hark$ lot maybe use to this high kick/box kick losing rugby. Thats why you didnt qualify for the HC. I want to see the Springboks play more running rugby. Value possession more. We dont dominate the other packs anymore. They get their own lineout balls, scrums are steady and is just as good on the floor. We gave them more possession by vokken kick it down their throats.Sards wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:47 amWTF are you talking about....vokkof with your provincial bias you old titOomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:57 amYour Faf and Willie like team failed heavily at home. Time to give the others a chance.
Obvious you are to stupid to understand this.
Narrator: The Bok pack dominated.OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:15 am We dont dominate the other packs anymore. They get their own lineout balls, scrums are steady and is just as good on the floor.
I watched the game. Twice. I am quietly confidentLoveOfTheGame wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:11 amCheck your stats first Sards.Sards wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:07 am Has anyone got stats for the argies match or a platform where I can find individual stats on kick percentages etc just so we can put all the tits to bed.
Would also like to see the stats on the New Zealand match
With you 100 percent. But put the spotlight where it belongs.OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:15 amYou $hark$ lot maybe use to this high kick/box kick losing rugby. Thats why you didnt qualify for the HC. I want to see the Springboks play more running rugby. Value possession more. We dont dominate the other packs anymore. They get their own lineout balls, scrums are steady and is just as good on the floor. We gave them more possession by vokken kick it down their throats.Sards wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:47 amWTF are you talking about....vokkof with your provincial bias you old titOomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:57 am
Your Faf and Willie like team failed heavily at home. Time to give the others a chance.
Obvious you are to stupid to understand this.
WPs vokken Rassnabber...
Look the Stormers scrum has been creaking for years now. Fatty and ninja are burnt out. You vokkers overplayed them. Don't put the lack of dominance in the scrum on anyone else.
Lineouts...I don't understand this . Unless they are just automatically setting up to counter the maul. I agree. Contest the vokken ball. Orie can only be getting game time over Kleyn because of the lack of transformation over the last lineup. Murmurs already with grumbling can hardly help them pick who they want. But yes. I saw Kleyn Contest. He is the only one. So ja agree.
Hooker. I don't understand what is going on with Bongi. He was decent for the Sharks....under Rassnabber he has lost his confidence. Sort this shit out.
Wiese seems out of favor. But we have no lack of loose forwards. It's just the combinations. And keeping a place for Kolisi. Ok there.
De Allende and Kriel....my vok. I can't believe I touted Kriel as a bok and everyone laughed at me. Now we can't get rid of the vokker.
Never rated De Allende over Esterhuizen. But here we sit. Not even bothering with the rest.
You criticise any players not a Stormers and yet it's the vokken Stormers coaching crew with their little pets who have put us in this drama. So vok off. I don't think we will get past the quarters
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They almost beat our b team at Ellis park. You really think the c team will poes klap them in their backyard??
They never beat our b team at Ellis Park.boere wors wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:32 pmThey almost beat our b team at Ellis park. You really think the c team will poes klap them in their backyard??
Yes, I believe that our c team will beat them in their backyard.
Can we piggy back the bled part 2 on to this thread?OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:28 am Squad off to Argentina
Full Bok tour squad: Props: Thomas du Toit, Steven Kitshoff, Vincent Koch, Gerhard Steenekamp, Trevor Nyakane. Hookers: Bongi Mbonambi, Joseph Dweba. Locks: Lood de Jager, Jean Kleyn, Marvin Orie. Loose forwards: Jean-Luc du Preez, Evan Roos, Jasper Wiese. Utility forwards: Deon Fourie, Franco Mostert. Scrumhalves: Jaden Hendrikse, Herschel Jantjies, Cobus Reinach. Flyhalf: Manie Libbok. Centres: Lukhanyo Am, Andre Esterhuizen, Jesse Kriel. Outside backs: Makazole Mapimpi, Canan Moodie, Kurt-Lee Arendse. Utility back: Damian Willemse.
Players left in SA: Pieter-Steph du Toit, Eben Etzebeth, Siya Kolisi, Frans Malherbe, Malcolm Marx, Ox Nche, Kwagga Smith, RG Snyman, Marco van Staden, Duane Vermeulen, Damian de Allende, Faf de Klerk, Cheslin Kolbe, Willie le Roux, Handre Pollard, Grant Williams.
If so, just edit your first post and edit the subject line.
I can’t be arsed for a game I probably won’t see live.
" I am not sure but this seems to be the most unorganized and uncertain time that SA Rugby has been in prior to a RWC "
Found this.
On reflection.
Do any of the Saffers feel we have a realistic chance of winning this.
Is anyone comfortable with our preparation and coaching.
Let's be honest. We have some serious talent at our disposal . But are we going to see the best out of them.
We are Ireland's bitches currently. Can we realistically beat them. We are France's bitches. Do we have a plan to beat them that you can see. The ABs made us look like a school team. Can we realistically beat them in the next few years.
Found this.
On reflection.
Do any of the Saffers feel we have a realistic chance of winning this.
Is anyone comfortable with our preparation and coaching.
Let's be honest. We have some serious talent at our disposal . But are we going to see the best out of them.
We are Ireland's bitches currently. Can we realistically beat them. We are France's bitches. Do we have a plan to beat them that you can see. The ABs made us look like a school team. Can we realistically beat them in the next few years.
" I am not sure but this seems to be the most unorganized and uncertain time that SA Rugby has been in prior to a RWC "
Found this.
On reflection.
Do any of the Saffers feel we have a realistic chance of winning this.
Is anyone comfortable with our preparation and coaching.
Let's be honest. We have some serious talent at our disposal . But are we going to see the best out of them.
We are Ireland's bitches currently. Can we realistically beat them. We are France's bitches. Do we have a plan to beat them that you can see. The ABs made us look like a school team. Can we realistically beat them in the next few years.
Found this.
On reflection.
Do any of the Saffers feel we have a realistic chance of winning this.
Is anyone comfortable with our preparation and coaching.
Let's be honest. We have some serious talent at our disposal . But are we going to see the best out of them.
We are Ireland's bitches currently. Can we realistically beat them. We are France's bitches. Do we have a plan to beat them that you can see. The ABs made us look like a school team. Can we realistically beat them in the next few years.
Yay. 3 months of negative posting from you.Sards wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:41 pm " I am not sure but this seems to be the most unorganized and uncertain time that SA Rugby has been in prior to a RWC "
Found this.
On reflection.
Do any of the Saffers feel we have a realistic chance of winning this.
Is anyone comfortable with our preparation and coaching.
Let's be honest. We have some serious talent at our disposal . But are we going to see the best out of them.
We are Ireland's bitches currently. Can we realistically beat them. We are France's bitches. Do we have a plan to beat them that you can see. The ABs made us look like a school team. Can we realistically beat them in the next few years.
Hey. 2019 could happen again.Sandstorm wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:01 pmYay. 3 months of negative posting from you.Sards wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:41 pm " I am not sure but this seems to be the most unorganized and uncertain time that SA Rugby has been in prior to a RWC "
Found this.
On reflection.
Do any of the Saffers feel we have a realistic chance of winning this.
Is anyone comfortable with our preparation and coaching.
Let's be honest. We have some serious talent at our disposal . But are we going to see the best out of them.
We are Ireland's bitches currently. Can we realistically beat them. We are France's bitches. Do we have a plan to beat them that you can see. The ABs made us look like a school team. Can we realistically beat them in the next few years.
Knockout games in any sport is uncertain.
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Yeah. Waa fun to peek. It's amazing how easily we can be influenced by perceptionLoveOfTheGame wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:11 amCheck your stats first Sards.Sards wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:07 am Has anyone got stats for the argies match or a platform where I can find individual stats on kick percentages etc just so we can put all the tits to bed.
Would also like to see the stats on the New Zealand match
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Done.Ymx wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:12 pmCan we piggy back the bled part 2 on to this thread?OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:28 am Squad off to Argentina
Full Bok tour squad: Props: Thomas du Toit, Steven Kitshoff, Vincent Koch, Gerhard Steenekamp, Trevor Nyakane. Hookers: Bongi Mbonambi, Joseph Dweba. Locks: Lood de Jager, Jean Kleyn, Marvin Orie. Loose forwards: Jean-Luc du Preez, Evan Roos, Jasper Wiese. Utility forwards: Deon Fourie, Franco Mostert. Scrumhalves: Jaden Hendrikse, Herschel Jantjies, Cobus Reinach. Flyhalf: Manie Libbok. Centres: Lukhanyo Am, Andre Esterhuizen, Jesse Kriel. Outside backs: Makazole Mapimpi, Canan Moodie, Kurt-Lee Arendse. Utility back: Damian Willemse.
Players left in SA: Pieter-Steph du Toit, Eben Etzebeth, Siya Kolisi, Frans Malherbe, Malcolm Marx, Ox Nche, Kwagga Smith, RG Snyman, Marco van Staden, Duane Vermeulen, Damian de Allende, Faf de Klerk, Cheslin Kolbe, Willie le Roux, Handre Pollard, Grant Williams.
If so, just edit your first post and edit the subject line.
I can’t be arsed for a game I probably won’t see live.
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Will Foster select an All Blacks C team this weekend?
Yep, he’s confirmed that is going to be the case.
“We love the word dead rubber from one perspective because that means we’ve done the job in the first Test, but it doesn’t change the fact it’s still a Test match,” he said. “It’s a vital cog on our little steps towards the World Cup.
“It’s another chance for us to have a look at a few options, both in the way we play and personnel. It’s fair to say you’ll see a couple of changes.”
It’s the last opportunity for some players to stake their claims for World Cup selection ahead of next week’s squad announcement for the global showpiece in France.
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Afternoon test. Love watching at that time in 1981.Ymx wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:27 pm Saturday 5th August
NZ v Aus
Forsyth Stadium
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03:35 UK time
04:45 SA time
14:35 NZT
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Boet, that's a bit too much honesty asked for. The saffers here usually are not that good in objectiveness. Expect the usual chest thumpingSards wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:41 pm " I am not sure but this seems to be the most unorganized and uncertain time that SA Rugby has been in prior to a RWC "
Found this.
On reflection.
Do any of the Saffers feel we have a realistic chance of winning this.
Is anyone comfortable with our preparation and coaching.
Let's be honest. We have some serious talent at our disposal . But are we going to see the best out of them.
We are Ireland's bitches currently. Can we realistically beat them. We are France's bitches. Do we have a plan to beat them that you can see. The ABs made us look like a school team. Can we realistically beat them in the next few years.

Boerie Roll and Sardy sitting in a tree ...boere wors wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:23 pmBoet, that's a bit too much honesty asked for. The saffers here usually are not that good in objectiveness. Expect the usual chest thumpingSards wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:41 pm " I am not sure but this seems to be the most unorganized and uncertain time that SA Rugby has been in prior to a RWC "
Found this.
On reflection.
Do any of the Saffers feel we have a realistic chance of winning this.
Is anyone comfortable with our preparation and coaching.
Let's be honest. We have some serious talent at our disposal . But are we going to see the best out of them.
We are Ireland's bitches currently. Can we realistically beat them. We are France's bitches. Do we have a plan to beat them that you can see. The ABs made us look like a school team. Can we realistically beat them in the next few years.![]()
Rassie always keeps a monkey up his sleeve, you need to trust that monkey more.