Talking of which, I was having dinner with my FiL last night and thats his pick
Does it matter who they pick in this round? Or the next?
There'll just be a scandal/fallout within the Party around whoever is leader(s) in the next 2-3 years and they'll have to vote again anyway.
None of them will be leader of the opposition come the next election.
This! Whoever they select is basically the fag end of the current crop of has beens, nutters and right wing twats who wants their 2-3 years of glory leading the dismantling Tory Party. At some point the tories will split/disolve into two with the racist nut jobs heading off into a pact with Herr Farage and the rest trying to rescue their centre right party from the bampots and restoring some political respectability again. I fully expect a 'new' middle ground Tory leader will emerge before the next election.
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 9:06 am
by SaintK
You couldn't make this up! How the hell did this dinosaur get voted back in?
Tory traditionalist Christopher Chope has been put forward for membership of the modernisation select committee, prompting ridicule on social media.
Chope gained notoriety in 2018 for trying to block a proposal to make upskirting a specific criminal offence.
He has also faced criticism for referring to Commons staff as “servants” and telling one female MP to “apply her mind” in a House of Commons row.
The Christchurch MP’s voting record is equally chequered.
Chope has objected to proposed laws to protect girls from female genital mutilation (FGM), plans to host a global women’s conference in the Commons, and to granting a posthumous pardon to Alan Turing over his conviction for “homosexual activity”.
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 9:21 am
by Sandstorm
SaintK wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 9:06 am
You couldn't make this up! How the hell did this dinosaur get voted back in?
Tory traditionalist Christopher Chope has been put forward for membership of the modernisation select committee, prompting ridicule on social media.
Chope gained notoriety in 2018 for trying to block a proposal to make upskirting a specific criminal offence.
He has also faced criticism for referring to Commons staff as “servants” and telling one female MP to “apply her mind” in a House of Commons row.
The Christchurch MP’s voting record is equally chequered.
Chope has objected to proposed laws to protect girls from female genital mutilation (FGM), plans to host a global women’s conference in the Commons, and to granting a posthumous pardon to Alan Turing over his conviction for “homosexual activity”.
Lot of elderly, wealthy, possibly bigoted Tory voters down on the South Coast.
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 11:07 am
by SaintK
So the Tories still took another £5M from the racist Hester just before the Election despite an ongoing police investigation into his comments,
Frank Hester gave the Conservatives a further £5m just before the election, according to data from the Electoral Commission, despite the party coming under pressure over his remarks about Diane Abbott that were widely condemned as racist.
The donation, made by his company the Phoenix Partnership, brings his total funding to the Tories to more than £20m, cementing his status as their single biggest donor.
Just think how much good you could do with £20 million pounds....
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 1:38 pm
by sockwithaticket
Incredibly unhealthy for a political party to be so reliant on the money of one man. They'd of course protest otherwise, but party policy effectively becomes his.
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 4:52 pm
by Sandstorm
salanya wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 12:37 pm
Just think how much good you could do with £20 million pounds....
2 new hookers, a second row, 2 x 9s and a kicking full back. Plus some beers.
What were they thinking? It is all well and good that one was not required, but surely to goodness they must have realised how contentious this would be, and that it might be advisable to do an impact assessment. There is no reason why someone like myself should get it, but for a lot of others who will lose it there is a difference. I would suggest that had they done so they may have made a few more exceptions that would not have cost much, but would have defused some of the criticism.
Then there are the optics which to me at any rate are not good as they leave labour open to the 'not caring enough about pensioners to establish the impact' spin.
What were they thinking? It is all well and good that one was not required, but surely to goodness they must have realised how contentious this would be, and that it might be advisable to do an impact assessment. There is no reason why someone like myself should get it, but for a lot of others who will lose it there is a difference. I would suggest that had they done so they may have made a few more exceptions that would not have cost much, but would have defused some of the criticism.
Then there are the optics which to me at any rate are not good as they leave labour open to the 'not caring enough about pensioners to establish the impact' spin.
I think Labour there is in the same pickle as Labor here. Both back in power with massive liabilities after Tories screwed everything and the cost of living crisis hits them
Everytime they do something, the opposition flat out lies and they can't react without looking stiltled
It's farked
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 8:44 am
by Hal Jordan
The moaning about Labour thread is over there. This is the thread for despairing/laughing at the Tories.
Did you recently suffer a blow to the head, that surgically excised the last ~8 years from your rmemory ?
If so, can you let me know where exactly the blow landed, because.I think I can monatize that knowledge !
Boris, Liz, Rushi.
They're just not serious people. They're almost cartoon bad. Cameron was merely bad, not cartoonish.
(I'll ignore the pig fucking for now)
It's more the decison to hold a Referedum that I'd take issue with; that was the act of a conceited moron !
Let me guess, decision to have a Brexit referendum = bad, decision to have any other referendum like Scot’s indyref = good ?
Personally I’d say the method of persuading remain by saying anyone voting leave is racist and thick, was more of an act of a conceited moron. Weird how most of the ones busted now for riots and social media bants seem to be first and second generation irishers..
They're just not serious people. They're almost cartoon bad. Cameron was merely bad, not cartoonish.
(I'll ignore the pig fucking for now)
It's more the decison to hold a Referedum that I'd take issue with; that was the act of a conceited moron !
Let me guess, decision to have a Brexit referendum = bad, decision to have any other referendum like Scot’s indyref = good ?
Personally I’d say the method of persuading remain by saying anyone voting leave is racist and thick, was more of an act of a conceited moron. Weird how most of the ones busted now for riots and social media bants seem to be first and second generation irishers..
It was interesting to see the difference in those two referendums. SNP / Yes side faced constant demands to define the exact details of what would happen after a vote for independence. Leave side faced nowhere near the same level of scrutiny in that regard.
They're just not serious people. They're almost cartoon bad. Cameron was merely bad, not cartoonish.
(I'll ignore the pig fucking for now)
It's more the decison to hold a Referedum that I'd take issue with; that was the act of a conceited moron !
Let me guess, decision to have a Brexit referendum = bad, decision to have any other referendum like Scot’s indyref = good ?
Personally I’d say the method of persuading remain by saying anyone voting leave is racist and thick, was more of an act of a conceited moron. Weird how most of the ones busted now for riots and social media bants seem to be first and second generation irishers..
No, a, 'Yes', 'No' Referendum without any further clarification of the steps after any, 'Yes' vote would be just as moronic.
Let's be clear; Cameron didn't need to call a Referendum to leave the EU, he could have just done it !, or better yet, had it as a policy in his GE manifesto, & then just followed thru on it, but he was too fucking gutless to commit one way or the other.
It is such a complex question that it can't be hammered into the form of a Ref Question, & pretending it can is irresponsible.
No one prior to the Ref said how the UK ended up was the where they should be, so wtf were the voters to understand what the consequences would be ?
Ironically the one MP who is recorded as suggesting a reasonable process was JRM, who said that, perhaps the UK should have a 2nd Ref once the deal to leave was negotiated; but conveniently, once the blank check was written, the Bumblecunt added a few zero's onto the amount because there was no conditions to stop him !
It's more the decison to hold a Referedum that I'd take issue with; that was the act of a conceited moron !
Let me guess, decision to have a Brexit referendum = bad, decision to have any other referendum like Scot’s indyref = good ?
Personally I’d say the method of persuading remain by saying anyone voting leave is racist and thick, was more of an act of a conceited moron. Weird how most of the ones busted now for riots and social media bants seem to be first and second generation irishers..
It was interesting to see the difference in those two referendums. SNP / Yes side faced constant demands to define the exact details of what would happen after a vote for independence. Leave side faced nowhere near the same level of scrutiny in that regard.
This can’t be a serious post?
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 1:13 pm
by Hal Jordan
Badenoch has proclaimed her working class credentials because she once had a job in McDonald's as a student.
How fucking stupid is she? I mean really, she seems to engage her mouth without a single thought passing through her head.
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 1:19 pm
by Slick
Hal Jordan wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 1:13 pm
Badenoch has proclaimed her working class credentials because she once had a job in McDonald's as a student.
How fucking stupid is she? I mean really, she seems to engage her mouth without a single thought passing through her head.
Interesting comment from Major today essentially saying they are a bunch of cunts and why are people like her chasing the extreme right wing, which actually took less votes off them than Labour or LD's, and they should be a right of centre party which is what wins elections.
It's more the decison to hold a Referedum that I'd take issue with; that was the act of a conceited moron !
Let me guess, decision to have a Brexit referendum = bad, decision to have any other referendum like Scot’s indyref = good ?
Personally I’d say the method of persuading remain by saying anyone voting leave is racist and thick, was more of an act of a conceited moron. Weird how most of the ones busted now for riots and social media bants seem to be first and second generation irishers..
No, a, 'Yes', 'No' Referendum without any further clarification of the steps after any, 'Yes' vote would be just as moronic.
Let's be clear; Cameron didn't need to call a Referendum to leave the EU, he could have just done it !, or better yet, had it as a policy in his GE manifesto, & then just followed thru on it, but he was too fucking gutless to commit one way or the other.
It is such a complex question that it can't be hammered into the form of a Ref Question, & pretending it can is irresponsible.
No one prior to the Ref said how the UK ended up was the where they should be, so wtf were the voters to understand what the consequences would be ?
Ironically the one MP who is recorded as suggesting a reasonable process was JRM, who said that, perhaps the UK should have a 2nd Ref once the deal to leave was negotiated; but conveniently, once the blank check was written, the Bumblecunt added a few zero's onto the amount because there was no conditions to stop him !
D cam thought he had to have the referendum because it was in his manefesto - would have been easier just to kick the can down road and not have the referendum and break a manefesro pledge , like how all parties do
Eg I can’t see those 2 billion trees got planted
Eu and dcam called the bluff , and lost (or won, depending on viewpoint)
The independence jocks should just be shouted down by saying referendums are bad and you recently had one anyways so shush now, Eu woukdnt even accept you as you don’t meet the criteria on your own .
Yeeb wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2024 5:56 pm Let me guess, decision to have a Brexit referendum = bad, decision to have any other referendum like Scot’s indyref = good ?
Personally I’d say the method of persuading remain by saying anyone voting leave is racist and thick, was more of an act of a conceited moron. Weird how most of the ones busted now for riots and social media bants seem to be first and second generation irishers..
No, a, 'Yes', 'No' Referendum without any further clarification of the steps after any, 'Yes' vote would be just as moronic.
Let's be clear; Cameron didn't need to call a Referendum to leave the EU, he could have just done it !, or better yet, had it as a policy in his GE manifesto, & then just followed thru on it, but he was too fucking gutless to commit one way or the other.
It is such a complex question that it can't be hammered into the form of a Ref Question, & pretending it can is irresponsible.
No one prior to the Ref said how the UK ended up was the where they should be, so wtf were the voters to understand what the consequences would be ?
Ironically the one MP who is recorded as suggesting a reasonable process was JRM, who said that, perhaps the UK should have a 2nd Ref once the deal to leave was negotiated; but conveniently, once the blank check was written, the Bumblecunt added a few zero's onto the amount because there was no conditions to stop him !
D cam thought he had to have the referendum because it was in his manefesto - would have been easier just to kick the can down road and not have the referendum and break a manefesro pledge , like how all parties do
Eg I can’t see those 2 billion trees got planted
Eu and dcam called the bluff , and lost (or won, depending on viewpoint)
The independence jocks should just be shouted down by saying referendums are bad and you recently had one anyways so shush now, Eu woukdnt even accept you as you don’t meet the criteria on your own .
Independence supporter or not your last sentence above is exactly the type of comment that drives Scots to voting for independence. Very colonial!
No, a, 'Yes', 'No' Referendum without any further clarification of the steps after any, 'Yes' vote would be just as moronic.
Let's be clear; Cameron didn't need to call a Referendum to leave the EU, he could have just done it !, or better yet, had it as a policy in his GE manifesto, & then just followed thru on it, but he was too fucking gutless to commit one way or the other.
It is such a complex question that it can't be hammered into the form of a Ref Question, & pretending it can is irresponsible.
No one prior to the Ref said how the UK ended up was the where they should be, so wtf were the voters to understand what the consequences would be ?
Ironically the one MP who is recorded as suggesting a reasonable process was JRM, who said that, perhaps the UK should have a 2nd Ref once the deal to leave was negotiated; but conveniently, once the blank check was written, the Bumblecunt added a few zero's onto the amount because there was no conditions to stop him !
D cam thought he had to have the referendum because it was in his manefesto - would have been easier just to kick the can down road and not have the referendum and break a manefesro pledge , like how all parties do
Eg I can’t see those 2 billion trees got planted
Eu and dcam called the bluff , and lost (or won, depending on viewpoint)
The independence jocks should just be shouted down by saying referendums are bad and you recently had one anyways so shush now, Eu woukdnt even accept you as you don’t meet the criteria on your own .
Independence supporter or not your last sentence above is exactly the type of comment that drives Scots to voting for independence. Very colonial!
My language was supposed to be inflammatory - and you should really have written ‘that drives a MINORITY of Scots to voting for independence’
Either don’t have referendums , or have them but make sure you can’t have another one 5 mins later just because you didn’t like the result of the first one. Minimum 20 years / whole generation time limit seems fair.
The meeting criteria fail thing is just factual for team SNP, they should be happy us rich English continue to bail them out
Sneaky. If you are causing chaos elsewhere+ pandemic you can sneak this poison through.
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 11:20 am
by SaintK
She "became" working class because she worked in McDonalds
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 1:44 pm
by GrahamWa
You've probably seen this on the socials as they say. The handover after Nigel Farage stood in for a show on LBC by James O'Brien.
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 2:39 pm
by SaintK
Don't know where to post this.
The Reform party conference sounds like a veritable snake-pit.
Middleton was dropped by Channel 4 in 2021. At the time the channel said its “views and values” did not align with those of the former soldier after on social media he called Black Lives Matters protesters “scum” and told people to ignore safety measures implemented during the Covid-19 pandemic.
Multi-millionaire Rupert Lowe has started his speech at the Reform UK conference with a jibe at the LGBT community, by saying it is welcome to be speaking somewhere where there is “a paucity of rainbow lanyards” on display.
He has also mentioned “Orwellian virture-signalling double-speak”, and there were huge cheers in the room when he criticised the “entire Covid response pandemic” as a scandal and he claimed people had been forced to take an experimental jab.
The biggest cheers went to defunding the BBC and abolishing 20 mph speed limits. There was also cheers for reversing devolution, leaving the ECHR, and repealing the 1997 Human Rights Act and the 2010 Equality Act.
Rupert Lowe has finished his speech by criticising democracy because among other things women will want to be treated like men and foreigners will want to be treated like natives. He said that without Reform UK, British people will lose their way of life to the “subversive forces” against them. Among them he lists the World Economic Forum, the Bilderberg Meeting, the United Nations, and the World Health Organization. This section is laced with antisemitic conspiracy tropes.
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 5:15 pm
by Hal Jordan
Farage has always attracted the best of us as his fellow travellers.
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:27 am
by dpedin
Farage is a frog faced c**t who is a racist, xenophobic and misogynistic twat with a long history of dabbling in racism and nazism. He will inevitably act as a lightening rod for the lowest of the low scumbags in the same way that Mosley did in his day. Their right wing media mates and dodgy rich funders will continue to make sure Farage and Reform are in the headlines but will snowpake out the stuff that's slightly too extreme for public consumption. Whilst the guys who front Reform are mostly nut jobs, Reform do have some brains behind them funded by the likes of Theil etc and they will get help in making gains, mostly against the Tories, in a very targeted way. It sounds like they have their sights set on northern towns like Blackburn, Doncaster, etc where they feel they can easily pit the white pop against the asian pop and create further trouble. They really are bastards and have no compunction in creating or using existing tensions in local communities for their own aims.
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:29 am
by tabascoboy
dpedin wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:27 am
Farage is a frog faced c**t who is a racist, xenophobic and misogynistic twat with a long history of dabbling in racism and nazism. He will inevitably act as a lightening rod for the lowest of the low scumbags in the same way that Mosley did in his day. Their right wing media mates and dodgy rich funders will continue to make sure Farage and Reform are in the headlines but will snowpake out the stuff that's slightly too extreme for public consumption. Whilst the guys who front Reform are mostly nut jobs, Reform do have some brains behind them funded by the likes of Theil etc and they will get help in making gains, mostly against the Tories, in a very targeted way. It sounds like they have their sights set on northern towns like Blackburn, Doncaster, etc where they feel they can easily pit the white pop against the asian pop and create further trouble. They really are bastards and have no compunction in creating or using existing tensions in local communities for their own aims.
But, but, but, "he's a great bloke to have a beer and fag with"!
dpedin wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:27 am
Farage is a frog faced c**t who is a racist, xenophobic and misogynistic twat with a long history of dabbling in racism and nazism. He will inevitably act as a lightening rod for the lowest of the low scumbags in the same way that Mosley did in his day. Their right wing media mates and dodgy rich funders will continue to make sure Farage and Reform are in the headlines but will snowpake out the stuff that's slightly too extreme for public consumption. Whilst the guys who front Reform are mostly nut jobs, Reform do have some brains behind them funded by the likes of Theil etc and they will get help in making gains, mostly against the Tories, in a very targeted way. It sounds like they have their sights set on northern towns like Blackburn, Doncaster, etc where they feel they can easily pit the white pop against the asian pop and create further trouble. They really are bastards and have no compunction in creating or using existing tensions in local communities for their own aims.
But, but, but, "he's a great bloke to have a beer and fag with"!
I'd shove the glass down his throat and the fag up his arse if I ever bumped into him
Thing is he surrounded by thuggish security these days even when he is doing media interviews with the BBC!!!!
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2024 12:09 pm
by C69
The RCN has just rejected the. 5.5% pay offer
Not a good few months for Labour
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2024 12:12 pm
by SaintK
She's batshit
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2024 3:03 pm
by Rhubarb & Custard
C69 wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 12:09 pm
The RCN has just rejected the. 5.5% pay offer
Not a good few months for Labour
They've just come into government with a whopping majority and whilst they've fumbled some decisions and some crafting of the message on balance they should happily take it after the last 15 years, and if they can't consider that good just how manic depressive are they all?
Not a surprise the RCN feel they should be getting the same as the junior doctors, and this is one of the downsides to the deals already agreed upon, but there's a cost to not making those deals too, really you're just not going to get only the decisions you want, and only positives arising from those decisions, you're going to have to eat some shit sandwiches along the way
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2024 3:06 pm
by Rhubarb & Custard
tabascoboy wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:29 am
But, but, but, "he's a great bloke to have a beer and fag with"!
He always seems one of those first through the pub door last to the bar types
C69 wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 12:09 pm
The RCN has just rejected the. 5.5% pay offer
Not a good few months for Labour
They've just come into government with a whopping majority and whilst they've fumbled some decisions and some crafting of the message on balance they should happily take it after the last 15 years, and if they can't consider that good just how manic depressive are they all?
Not a surprise the RCN feel they should be getting the same as the junior doctors, and this is one of the downsides to the deals already agreed upon, but there's a cost to not making those deals too, really you're just not going to get only the decisions you want, and only positives arising from those decisions, you're going to have to eat some shit sandwiches along the way
No great surprise that public sector unions that have seen wages eroded under Tories want to see some real term increases. Im not sure they are looking for what the junior docs got, they have all seen different real term decreases in wages over the years, but something needs to be does to stop the haemorrhaging of qualified staff.
It is going to take a year or two for Labour to untangle and deal with the absolute shithouse they have inherited and they will annoy a few along the way but they dont really have much choice!
And she arranges her library in colour order, just to confirm it.
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 1:45 pm
by SaintK
.....and a further lurch to the right for the Speccie following the buy out by Paul Marshall. Next stop The Torygraph?
The former cabinet minister Michael Gove has been named as the new editor of the Spectator magazine, weeks after the GB News backer Sir Paul Marshall completed a £100m takeover of the politically right-leaning magazine.
Gove, who will take over from Fraser Nelson on 4 October, will be joined by the former Daily Telegraph and Spectator editor Charles Moore who has been named as chair.
