Currie Cup

[OomStruisbaai]

Great news for rugby in Africa. Dunno about Georgia. Aren't they part of Europe?

The CC gets Georgia.
The 6N gets the Bokke!

We are the guardians

[assfly]

SA Rugby include Georgia, Zimbabwe, Kenya in Currie Cup
SA Rugby announced the structures and competitions, including for juniors and women, for the rest of 2022.

Wonderful news and a long time coming. I just hope Kenya and Zim can afford to keep a team in SA long enough for the games.

[OomStruisbaai]

SA Rugby include Georgia, Zimbabwe, Kenya in Currie Cup
SA Rugby announced the structures and competitions, including for juniors and women, for the rest of 2022.

Wonderful news and a long time coming. I just hope Kenya and Zim can afford to keep a team in SA long enough for the games.

Who cares.

[assfly]

[FalseBayFC]

Burger Odendaal confirmed moving to Wasps next season. Time for Henco van Wyk and Tyler Bocks to step up.

[Sards]

Lions are losing players at a rate of knots.

Something is wrong at the Bulls. They shouldn't be this weak

[assfly]

Something is wrong at the Bulls. They shouldn't be this weak

We're not talking enough about this.

The money that they poured in to that club, they should be doing much better both in the URC and CC. Their dominance over the pandemic period appears to be a false dawn, and I think Jake White has a lot to answer for.

[Chilli]

Something is wrong at the Bulls. They shouldn't be this weak

We're not talking enough about this.

The money that they poured in to that club, they should be doing much better both in the URC and CC. Their dominance over the pandemic period appears to be a false dawn, and I think Jake White has a lot to answer for.

They are playing the 2007 game plan. It is outdated.

[OomStruisbaai]

Something is wrong at the Bulls. They shouldn't be this weak

We're not talking enough about this.

The money that they poured in to that club, they should be doing much better both in the URC and CC. Their dominance over the pandemic period appears to be a false dawn, and I think Jake White has a lot to answer for.

They are playing the 2007 game plan. It is outdated.

Duanne Vermeulen, that's all.

[handyman]

Something is wrong at the Bulls. They shouldn't be this weak

We're not talking enough about this.

The money that they poured in to that club, they should be doing much better both in the URC and CC. Their dominance over the pandemic period appears to be a false dawn, and I think Jake White has a lot to answer for.

To me, Jake White is a lot like Eddie Jones. When he is new at a team, he is great at turning things around. After a few years tho, it all turns to shit.

I think Jake White would be best utilised as under 20 coach.

[assfly]

To me, Jake White is a lot like Eddie Jones. When he is new at a team, he is great at turning things around. After a few years tho, it all turns to shit.

I think Jake White would be best utilised as under 20 coach.

I think you're right. He has a history of cut and run. I'm surprised he's lasted this long.

The biggest disappointment for me was Duane. They must have paid a fortune to get him back, he plays a handful of games and then leaves.

I see that Arno Botha is off again too.

[handyman]

To me, Jake White is a lot like Eddie Jones. When he is new at a team, he is great at turning things around. After a few years tho, it all turns to shit.

I think Jake White would be best utilised as under 20 coach.

I think you're right. He has a history of cut and run. I'm surprised he's lasted this long.

The biggest disappointment for me was Duane. They must have paid a fortune to get him back, he plays a handful of games and then leaves.

I see that Arno Botha is off again too.

That's a risk you take by buying big name players. The next big offer is only an e-mail or phone call away.

[FalseBayFC]

To me, Jake White is a lot like Eddie Jones. When he is new at a team, he is great at turning things around. After a few years tho, it all turns to shit.

I think Jake White would be best utilised as under 20 coach.

I think you're right. He has a history of cut and run. I'm surprised he's lasted this long.

The biggest disappointment for me was Duane. They must have paid a fortune to get him back, he plays a handful of games and then leaves.

I see that Arno Botha is off again too.

That's a risk you take by buying big name players. The next big offer is only an e-mail or phone call away.

I see Jacques du Plessis and Cyle Brink are out for a while with injuries too. I reckon players returning from overseas do so because they fear their bodies are breaking down or guys like PSDT and Etzebeth who will most likely retire after 2023 RWC.

[handyman]

I think you're right. He has a history of cut and run. I'm surprised he's lasted this long.

The biggest disappointment for me was Duane. They must have paid a fortune to get him back, he plays a handful of games and then leaves.

I see that Arno Botha is off again too.

That's a risk you take by buying big name players. The next big offer is only an e-mail or phone call away.

I see Jacques du Plessis and Cyle Brink are out for a while with injuries too. I reckon players returning from overseas do so because they fear their bodies are breaking down or guys like PSDT and Etzebeth who will most likely retire after 2023 RWC.

PSDT is 29 and Etzebeth 30. They might have a go at the next RWC in 2027.

[assfly]

PSDT is 29 and Etzebeth 30. They might have a go at the next RWC in 2027.

I didn't think they were both so young!

But those two in particular have no regard for their own bodies. I can't see injuries letting either of them go to 2027.

[handyman]

PSDT is 29 and Etzebeth 30. They might have a go at the next RWC in 2027.

I didn't think they were both so young!

But those two in particular have no regard for their own bodies. I can't see injuries letting either of them go to 2027.

Perhaps not, but I can't see them retiring after RWC 2023.

[FalseBayFC]

PSDT comes from money and seems like the kind of guy who'd want to go back to the farm early. And he has had a fair run of injuries so I reckon he could stay maybe a season or two with Province at the most after RWC 23. Eben maybe goes to Japan for a couple of seasons. I still think a move back to SA at age 30 means they've had enough. Which is fair considering these guys have 12 years of adult rugby under their belts in what is one of the most punishing positions in the sport.

[OomStruisbaai]

Dobson brought Etsebeth through the Ikeys pipeline.

Maybe they'll end up together as Springboks.

[Chilli]

PSDT comes from money and seems like the kind of guy who'd want to go back to the farm early. And he has had a fair run of injuries so I reckon he could stay maybe a season or two with Province at the most after RWC 23. Eben maybe goes to Japan for a couple of seasons. I still think a move back to SA at age 30 means they've had enough. Which is fair considering these guys have 12 years of adult rugby under their belts in what is one of the most punishing positions in the sport.

What makes you think that he comes from money?

Kloovenberg makes good wine, but isn't really a big producer. Look I'm sue that they are very comfortable, but I don't think that he comes from money.

[assfly]

At the risk of generalising, I don't see many poor people owning vineyards in the Western Cape.

[handyman]

At the risk of generalising, I don't see many poor people owning vineyards in the Western Cape.

We don't know debt levels. Also, the ban on alcohol sales impacted the industry massively.

[assfly]

We don't know debt levels. Also, the ban on alcohol sales impacted the industry massively.

Apart from the debt of gratitude he owes to the Sharks

Surely most of their wine is imported these days anyway?

[Chilli]

We don't know debt levels. Also, the ban on alcohol sales impacted the industry massively.

Apart from the debt of gratitude he owes to the Sharks

Yeah. Thanks for paying to fix him

[OomStruisbaai]

I stayed a few years (when I was still on honeymoon) in Riebeek. Know Piet Spiere well enough to know the du Toits have money, enough.

[Chilli]

I stayed a few years (when I was still on honeymoon) in Riebeek. Know Piet Spiere well enough to know the du Toits have money, enough.

Then I stand corrected.

[OomStruisbaai]

Will be massive to get PSdT back at WP. Bakkies will never complain about him not giving 110% for his province. He went through his injuries but played out of his skin for the Stormers.

[Chilli]

Will be massive to get PSdT back at WP. Bakkies will never complain about him not giving 110% for his province. He went through his injuries but played out of his skin for the Stormers.

PSDT will never play CC,

[FalseBayFC]

PSDT comes from money and seems like the kind of guy who'd want to go back to the farm early. And he has had a fair run of injuries so I reckon he could stay maybe a season or two with Province at the most after RWC 23. Eben maybe goes to Japan for a couple of seasons. I still think a move back to SA at age 30 means they've had enough. Which is fair considering these guys have 12 years of adult rugby under their belts in what is one of the most punishing positions in the sport.

What makes you think that he comes from money?

Kloovenberg makes good wine, but isn't really a big producer. Look I'm sue that they are very comfortable, but I don't think that he comes from money.

I've been to Kloovenberg and stayed at their lodge in Riebeeck Kasteel called Pastorie. I reckon they qualify as being a wealthy family. PSDT will never have to look for a job after rugby.

[Chilli]

PSDT comes from money and seems like the kind of guy who'd want to go back to the farm early. And he has had a fair run of injuries so I reckon he could stay maybe a season or two with Province at the most after RWC 23. Eben maybe goes to Japan for a couple of seasons. I still think a move back to SA at age 30 means they've had enough. Which is fair considering these guys have 12 years of adult rugby under their belts in what is one of the most punishing positions in the sport.

What makes you think that he comes from money?

Kloovenberg makes good wine, but isn't really a big producer. Look I'm sue that they are very comfortable, but I don't think that he comes from money.

I've been to Kloovenberg and stayed at their lodge in Riebeeck Kasteel called Pastorie. I reckon they qualify as being a wealthy family. PSDT will never have to look for a job after rugby.

I stand corrected.

[OomStruisbaai]

PSDT comes from money and seems like the kind of guy who'd want to go back to the farm early. And he has had a fair run of injuries so I reckon he could stay maybe a season or two with Province at the most after RWC 23. Eben maybe goes to Japan for a couple of seasons. I still think a move back to SA at age 30 means they've had enough. Which is fair considering these guys have 12 years of adult rugby under their belts in what is one of the most punishing positions in the sport.

What makes you think that he comes from money?

Kloovenberg makes good wine, but isn't really a big producer. Look I'm sue that they are very comfortable, but I don't think that he comes from money.

I've been to Kloovenberg and stayed at their lodge in Riebeeck Kasteel called Pastorie. I reckon they qualify as being a wealthy family. PSDT will never have to look for a job after rugby.

My oldest brother died in a motor accident at turn off from Malmesbury to Riebeek at Kloovenburg in 1972 Piet Spiere was one of the first to get to him.

[OomStruisbaai]

WP U20 beat $hark$ in Durban

https://wprugby.com/dhl-wp-u20-start-wi ... in-durban/

[bok_viking]

To me, Jake White is a lot like Eddie Jones. When he is new at a team, he is great at turning things around. After a few years tho, it all turns to shit.

I think Jake White would be best utilised as under 20 coach.

I think you're right. He has a history of cut and run. I'm surprised he's lasted this long.

The biggest disappointment for me was Duane. They must have paid a fortune to get him back, he plays a handful of games and then leaves.

I see that Arno Botha is off again too.

That's a risk you take by buying big name players. The next big offer is only an e-mail or phone call away.

It feels like the Bulls sign all these players on short term contracts, as fast as they come in, they go out. Money has not been wisely spend on players, they mostly seem to sign players who are at the end of their careers and on the way back home to retire. There has been a lot of players in and out of the Bulls over the last few years. They can make a pretty good team out of players who left in the last 3 or so years. I also feel they have focused way to much on getting certain types of forwards in, but i think we do not have props that are that good right now, they get showed up to much in scrums for my liking. Also the backline was a bit neglected during the recruitment drive, they only brought in a couple of players that were on their last legs, they just cannot put in a shift week in/week out. I actually would love if the Bulls can get Simelane away from the Lions, we have exciting players like Arendse/Gans, but we do not have a center pairing and flyhalf that can make full use of that. Add that to the Bulls being really bad travelers and its a real uphill struggle.

[Sards]

I think you're right. He has a history of cut and run. I'm surprised he's lasted this long.

The biggest disappointment for me was Duane. They must have paid a fortune to get him back, he plays a handful of games and then leaves.

I see that Arno Botha is off again too.

That's a risk you take by buying big name players. The next big offer is only an e-mail or phone call away.

It feels like the Bulls sign all these players on short term contracts, as fast as they come in, they go out. Money has not been wisely spend on players, they mostly seem to sign players who are at the end of their careers and on the way back home to retire. There has been a lot of players in and out of the Bulls over the last few years. They can make a pretty good team out of players who left in the last 3 or so years. I also feel they have focused way to much on getting certain types of forwards in, but i think we do not have props that are that good right now, they get showed up to much in scrums for my liking. Also the backline was a bit neglected during the recruitment drive, they only brought in a couple of players that were on their last legs, they just cannot put in a shift week in/week out. I actually would love if the Bulls can get Simelane away from the Lions, we have exciting players like Arendse/Gans, but we do not have a center pairing and flyhalf that can make full use of that. Add that to the Bulls being really bad travelers and its a real uphill struggle.

They should have bought Kitsoff when he was still in his prime....their scrum is a lottery

[OomStruisbaai]

Ox would have been much cheaper.

[OomStruisbaai]

Friday/Saturday, 4/5 March

Cheetahs v Lions

Griquas v Bulls

Pumas v Sharks

[Sards]

Ox would have been much cheaper.

Ox is in his prime now....Bulls buy players looking for retirement packages

[Sards]

WP U20 beat $hark$ in Durban

https://wprugby.com/dhl-wp-u20-start-wi ... in-durban/

I hope the scouts were around from the Sharks

[OomStruisbaai]

U20 CC

First round results:
Bulls 74 Leopards 28
Lions 42 Eastern Province 0
Sharks 17 Western Province 20

Second-round fixtures on Saturday, 5 March:
11am: Leopards vs Lions – Olën Park, Potchefstroom
12am: Eastern Province vs Cheetahs – venue TBC
1pm: WP vs Bulls – City Park, Cape Town

[Sards]

Interesting stat Sharks have won 4 out 5 of their last away games in both formats

[OomStruisbaai]

Interesting stat Sharks have won 4 out 5 of their last away games in both formats

Why not 5 out of 5?