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Posted: **Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:51 am**

sorCrer wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:48 am
TheNatalShark wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:20 am With the latest deliveries and donations SA gov doesn't have any supply excuse for the rest of the month to meet Ramaphosa's 300k target. Whilst it's not particularly ambitious it at least fits more than comfortably for desire to hold reserves for second doses.

However I still don't think the Feb22 40mm target is anywhere near good enough. If additional agreements and donations are received I don't think there will be enough demand in US/EU/JP to drag out potential of enough supply to hit 40mm first doses before y/e
People are just not even pitching for vaccines. Yesterday, Gallagher Estate which can literally handle 1000's was completely empty at 3pm and hadn't been busy all day. Same on Sunday as I took the GF there for hers.

Shouldn't the youngsters be taking the elderly for their jabs?

Posted: **Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:53 am**

Chilli wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:07 am
Big Nipper wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:54 am
Chilli wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:51 am

Just be responsible and wear a condom until then, ok.
Hahahaha, me - responsible?!

I think I am retiring from rum!

Posted: **Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:13 am**

sorCrer wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:48 am Same on Sunday as I took the GF there for hers.

Your GF is over 34?

Last I heard she was 20 something............................or have you a new one?

Posted: **Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:45 am**

handyman wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:51 am
sorCrer wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:48 am
TheNatalShark wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:20 am With the latest deliveries and donations SA gov doesn't have any supply excuse for the rest of the month to meet Ramaphosa's 300k target. Whilst it's not particularly ambitious it at least fits more than comfortably for desire to hold reserves for second doses.

However I still don't think the Feb22 40mm target is anywhere near good enough. If additional agreements and donations are received I don't think there will be enough demand in US/EU/JP to drag out potential of enough supply to hit 40mm first doses before y/e
People are just not even pitching for vaccines. Yesterday, Gallagher Estate which can literally handle 1000's was completely empty at 3pm and hadn't been busy all day. Same on Sunday as I took the GF there for hers.
Shouldn't the youngsters be taking the elderly for their jabs?

I'm the jabee..

Posted: **Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:53 pm**

sorCrer wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:48 am
TheNatalShark wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:20 am With the latest deliveries and donations SA gov doesn't have any supply excuse for the rest of the month to meet Ramaphosa's 300k target. Whilst it's not particularly ambitious it at least fits more than comfortably for desire to hold reserves for second doses.

However I still don't think the Feb22 40mm target is anywhere near good enough. If additional agreements and donations are received I don't think there will be enough demand in US/EU/JP to drag out potential of enough supply to hit 40mm first doses before y/e
People are just not even pitching for vaccines. Yesterday, Gallagher Estate which can literally handle 1000's was completely empty at 3pm and hadn't been busy all day. Same on Sunday as I took the GF there for hers.

I actually got my sms yesterday to go to the Gallagher Estate tomorrow afternoon for my shot. So luckily it was not to long after I registered. So will see how many people pitch up tomorrow

Posted: **Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:14 pm**

bok_viking wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:53 pm
sorCrer wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:48 am
TheNatalShark wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:20 am With the latest deliveries and donations SA gov doesn't have any supply excuse for the rest of the month to meet Ramaphosa's 300k target. Whilst it's not particularly ambitious it at least fits more than comfortably for desire to hold reserves for second doses.

However I still don't think the Feb22 40mm target is anywhere near good enough. If additional agreements and donations are received I don't think there will be enough demand in US/EU/JP to drag out potential of enough supply to hit 40mm first doses before y/e
People are just not even pitching for vaccines. Yesterday, Gallagher Estate which can literally handle 1000's was completely empty at 3pm and hadn't been busy all day. Same on Sunday as I took the GF there for hers.
I actually got my sms yesterday to go to the Gallagher Estate tomorrow afternoon for my shot. So luckily it was not to long after I registered. So will see how many people pitch up tomorrow

Just pitch up. Don't even worry about the appointment time. You'll be through in under 30 mins including the mandatory 15 min observation.

Posted: **Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:06 am**

sorCrer wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:14 pm
bok_viking wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:53 pm
sorCrer wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:48 am

People are just not even pitching for vaccines. Yesterday, Gallagher Estate which can literally handle 1000's was completely empty at 3pm and hadn't been busy all day. Same on Sunday as I took the GF there for hers.
I actually got my sms yesterday to go to the Gallagher Estate tomorrow afternoon for my shot. So luckily it was not to long after I registered. So will see how many people pitch up tomorrow
Just pitch up. Don't even worry about the appointment time. You'll be through in under 30 mins including the mandatory 15 min observation.

Yeah was about 100 people or so today when i got there at lunch time, but no lines or waiting. Very quick.

Posted: **Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:35 am**

bok_viking wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:06 am
sorCrer wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:14 pm
bok_viking wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:53 pm

I actually got my sms yesterday to go to the Gallagher Estate tomorrow afternoon for my shot. So luckily it was not to long after I registered. So will see how many people pitch up tomorrow
Just pitch up. Don't even worry about the appointment time. You'll be through in under 30 mins including the mandatory 15 min observation.
Yeah was about 100 people or so today when i got there at lunch time, but no lines or waiting. Very quick.

Discovery are running a proper operation there. They literally have people every 2 meters guiding you where to go next.

Posted: **Fri Aug 06, 2021 1:08 pm**

sorCrer wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:35 am
bok_viking wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:06 am
sorCrer wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:14 pm

Just pitch up. Don't even worry about the appointment time. You'll be through in under 30 mins including the mandatory 15 min observation.
Yeah was about 100 people or so today when i got there at lunch time, but no lines or waiting. Very quick.
Discovery are running a proper operation there. They literally have people every 2 meters guiding you where to go next.

yup, almost more people helping than getting vaccinated. Like you say, every 2m someone directing you, asking you to sanitise hands, checking you, etc. I must have sanitised hands at least 10 times by the time I got to the jab booth. but overall a good experience, every one was very friendly and pretty efficient at getting people to where they need to be.

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:31 am**

A total of 39,639 tests were conducted in the last 24 hrs, with 7,502 new cases, which represents an 18.9% positivity rate. A further 573 #COVID19 related deaths have been reported, bringing total fatalities to 75,774 to date.

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:49 am**

Had my second and final shot of bioNTec/Pfizer this morning. Was a lot busier than the first time, a bunch of farm workers were bussed in. They all got the one shot Janssen vaccine and some of them were really scared.

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:10 am**

Calculon wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:49 am Had my second and final shot of bioNTec/Pfizer this morning. Was a lot busier than the first time, a bunch of farm workers were bussed in. They all got the one shot Janssen vaccine and some of them were really scared.

How old are you boet?

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:43 am**

Calculon wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:49 am Had my second and final shot of bioNTec/Pfizer this morning. Was a lot busier than the first time, a bunch of farm workers were bussed in. They all got the one shot Janssen vaccine and some of them were really scared.

Getting my 2nd tomorrow morning.

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:44 am**

Calculon wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:49 am Had my second and final shot of bioNTec/Pfizer this morning. Was a lot busier than the first time, a bunch of farm workers were bussed in. They all got the one shot Janssen vaccine and some of them were really scared.

Interesting. You got your first after me. Did you get an SMS to get your second, or did you do another walk-in for your second dose?

My second is scheduled for 23 Aug on my vax card.

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:56 am**

Blake wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:44 am
Calculon wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:49 am Had my second and final shot of bioNTec/Pfizer this morning. Was a lot busier than the first time, a bunch of farm workers were bussed in. They all got the one shot Janssen vaccine and some of them were really scared.
Interesting. You got your first after me. Did you get an SMS to get your second, or did you do another walk-in for your second dose?

My second is scheduled for 23 Aug on my vax card.

My second was exactly 6 weeks after the first, was written on my vax card and also got an SMS on Monday with date, time and place

Some of my friends (general public) got the Janssen last week.

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:19 am**

Calculon wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:56 am
Blake wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:44 am
Calculon wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:49 am Had my second and final shot of bioNTec/Pfizer this morning. Was a lot busier than the first time, a bunch of farm workers were bussed in. They all got the one shot Janssen vaccine and some of them were really scared.
Interesting. You got your first after me. Did you get an SMS to get your second, or did you do another walk-in for your second dose?

My second is scheduled for 23 Aug on my vax card.
My second was exactly 6 weeks after the first, was written on my vax card and also got an SMS on Monday with date, time and place

Some of my friends (general public) got the Janssen last week.

Ah okay. Maybe you got your first before me then.

One of my friends in Joburg got the option when he rocked up at the vaccination site. Chose the J&J one and done one.

Posted: **Mon Aug 16, 2021 9:56 am**

The anti-vax segment of our society is huge imo. If we get over 50% vaccinated ever I will be very surprised. There'll be a whole lot of reasons people won't get this vaccine but the bottom line is we're fucked. 1.9m doses in the last 15 days. It sounds a lot but that's under 130k per day. We now need to go the US route as much as I disagree with it. Maybe give it 8 weeks to let the vulnerable have a chance and then open it all up. No restrictions, except social distancing and mask wearing.

Posted: **Mon Aug 16, 2021 9:59 am**

FalseBayFC wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 9:56 am The anti-vax segment of our society is huge imo. If we get over 50% vaccinated ever I will be very surprised. There'll be a whole lot of reasons people won't get this vaccine but the bottom line is we're fucked. 1.9m doses in the last 15 days. It sounds a lot but that's under 130k per day. We now need to go the US route as much as I disagree with it. Maybe give it 8 weeks to let the vulnerable have a chance and then open it all up. No restrictions, except social distancing and mask wearing.

It's fucking weird. I have some well educated and supposedly intelligent friends who are anti-vax and vehemently so sprouting all sorts of conspiracy stuff.

Posted: **Mon Aug 16, 2021 9:59 am**

FalseBayFC wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 9:56 am The anti-vax segment of our society is huge imo. If we get over 50% vaccinated ever I will be very surprised. There'll be a whole lot of reasons people won't get this vaccine but the bottom line is we're fucked. 1.9m doses in the last 15 days. It sounds a lot but that's under 130k per day. We now need to go the US route as much as I disagree with it. Maybe give it 8 weeks to let the vulnerable have a chance and then open it all up. No restrictions, except social distancing and mask wearing.

Agreed

Also start putting pressure on the anti vaxx crew. Do you want to go watch the Bokke v NZ test in 2022? No problem, let us see your proof of vaccination. Ditto for dining out, domestic flights and hotel stays

They will line up much quicker once the squeeze is on

Posted: **Mon Aug 16, 2021 10:17 am**

That's the only way we will get to 70%

Posted: **Mon Aug 16, 2021 10:50 am**

FalseBayFC wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 9:56 am The anti-vax segment of our society is huge imo. If we get over 50% vaccinated ever I will be very surprised. There'll be a whole lot of reasons people won't get this vaccine but the bottom line is we're fucked. 1.9m doses in the last 15 days. It sounds a lot but that's under 130k per day. We now need to go the US route as much as I disagree with it. Maybe give it 8 weeks to let the vulnerable have a chance and then open it all up. No restrictions, except social distancing and mask wearing.

It is going to be a massive problem across the continent. They are having problems here trying to get people in for their second jab; because the first one made them a bit sick they don't want to get the second.

Also stems from massive distrust of the government.

Posted: **Mon Aug 16, 2021 10:51 am**

Big Nipper wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 9:59 am
FalseBayFC wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 9:56 am The anti-vax segment of our society is huge imo. If we get over 50% vaccinated ever I will be very surprised. There'll be a whole lot of reasons people won't get this vaccine but the bottom line is we're fucked. 1.9m doses in the last 15 days. It sounds a lot but that's under 130k per day. We now need to go the US route as much as I disagree with it. Maybe give it 8 weeks to let the vulnerable have a chance and then open it all up. No restrictions, except social distancing and mask wearing.
Agreed

Also start putting pressure on the anti vaxx crew. Do you want to go watch the Bokke v NZ test in 2022? No problem, let us see your proof of vaccination. Ditto for dining out, domestic flights and hotel stays

They will line up much quicker once the squeeze is on

That may work for those who can afford test tickets, dining out and air travel. Most people in this country can't and have nothing so you can't coerce them like that. Every country is unique and our population has anti-authoritarianism baked into its DNA. I've spoken to anti-vaxxers from every strata of our society. They're everywhere. And the worrying thing is that I reckon only a small percentage of the antis will admit it. So for every out and proud anti there are probably 5 who are silent about it.

Posted: **Mon Aug 16, 2021 10:58 am**

No vaccine, no social grant

Posted: **Mon Aug 16, 2021 11:00 am**

Big Nipper wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 9:59 am
FalseBayFC wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 9:56 am The anti-vax segment of our society is huge imo. If we get over 50% vaccinated ever I will be very surprised. There'll be a whole lot of reasons people won't get this vaccine but the bottom line is we're fucked. 1.9m doses in the last 15 days. It sounds a lot but that's under 130k per day. We now need to go the US route as much as I disagree with it. Maybe give it 8 weeks to let the vulnerable have a chance and then open it all up. No restrictions, except social distancing and mask wearing.
Agreed

Also start putting pressure on the anti vaxx crew. Do you want to go watch the Bokke v NZ test in 2022? No problem, let us see your proof of vaccination. Ditto for dining out, domestic flights and hotel stays

They will line up much quicker once the squeeze is on

Wanna buy booze? "Vaccine certificate please"

Job done.

Posted: **Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:32 pm**

sorCrer wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 9:59 am
FalseBayFC wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 9:56 am The anti-vax segment of our society is huge imo. If we get over 50% vaccinated ever I will be very surprised. There'll be a whole lot of reasons people won't get this vaccine but the bottom line is we're fucked. 1.9m doses in the last 15 days. It sounds a lot but that's under 130k per day. We now need to go the US route as much as I disagree with it. Maybe give it 8 weeks to let the vulnerable have a chance and then open it all up. No restrictions, except social distancing and mask wearing.
It's fucking weird. I have some well educated and supposedly intelligent friends who are anti-vax and vehemently so sprouting all sorts of conspiracy stuff.

Same. Saw an interesting stat on Reddit about vaccine hesitancy; by education. The chart had a U-shape with the 2 biggest groups being those without high-school and those with PhDs.

It's baffling that people that are supposedly so smart can be so stupid at the same time.

Posted: **Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:42 pm**

Vaccine for over 18s to be made available earlier

Health minister Dr Joe Phaahla says that the government plans to open Covid-19 vaccines to all adults in South Africa weeks earlier than expected.

South Africa is officially set to open vaccinations to people between 18-35 from 1 September. However, Phaahla said his department was now in consultations to move this date up to the end of this week.

“We are in further consultations with our leadership in cabinet, (and) we will probably before the end of this week open for all adults above 18,” he told 702. “If not this week, then not later than next Monday (23 August) for all adults.

Sure sign that they are struggling to get enough people for the jab

Posted: **Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:00 pm**

Apparently there's a video on Facebook doing the rounds where Dr Susan Vosloo, SA's first female heart surgeon is sharing a negative view on covid vaccination.

Posted: **Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:05 pm**

average joe wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:00 pm Apparently there's a video on Facebook doing the rounds where Dr Susan Vosloo, SA's first female heart surgeon is sharing a negative view on covid vaccination.

They should really get internet to Free State.

Posted: **Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:43 pm**

average joe wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:00 pm Apparently there's a video on Facebook doing the rounds where Dr Susan Vosloo, SA's first female heart surgeon is sharing a negative view on covid vaccination.

Yep. Heard about that. Netcare is distancing themselves from her and all the anti-vax people are now shouting "CENSORSHIP!".

Amazing that such a well renowned doctor will tarnish her career like this in an instant.

Posted: **Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:17 pm**

I just got my 1st Pfizer jab

Posted: **Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:55 pm**

Big Nipper wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:17 pm I just got my 1st Pfizer jab

Nice boet! Finally. Not for lack of trying either!

Getting my second dose on Thursday. Hoping it doesn’t do a number on me. Heard the second one can be a doozy for some people.

Posted: **Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:00 pm**

Blake wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:55 pm
Big Nipper wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:17 pm I just got my 1st Pfizer jab

Nice boet! Finally. Not for lack of trying either!

Getting my second dose on Thursday. Hoping it doesn’t do a number on me. Heard the second one can be a doozy for some people.

Yes, I still have in my phone's diary my initial appointment for 19 July....

I have also heard the 2nd can be a tough one, but I guarantee you it is worth it. I would want no one to live in constant fear of going from mild covid to ventilator covid, like I had to on 2 occasions

Posted: **Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:08 pm**

Had my second on Friday and apart from the sore arm no issues at all.

Posted: **Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:08 pm**

I see old Wilson's Toffee is an anti on PR

Posted: **Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:13 pm**

sorCrer wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:08 pm I see old Wilson's Toffee is an anti on PR

Can't say I'm too surprised.

Posted: **Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:32 pm**

sorCrer wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:08 pm Had my second on Friday and apart from the sore arm no issues at all.

Also just a sore arm for my second

Posted: **Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:33 pm**

Rinkals wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:13 pm
sorCrer wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:08 pm I see old Wilson's Toffee is an anti on PR
Can't say I'm too surprised.

Have you decide to get vaccinated?

Posted: **Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:53 pm**

Calculon wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 10:58 am No vaccine, no social grant

Do that and Julius Malema will be in power by next election. I absolutely back mandatory vaccination but there's no way our government has the clout to pull it off.

Posted: **Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:28 pm**

What is the gap between first and second Pfizer jabs?

I'm 6 weeks gone since my first AZ jab. There is nobody here saying how long we have to wait, and I've read anything from 8 to 12 weeks is good.

Posted: **Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:57 pm**

assfly wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:28 pm What is the gap between first and second Pfizer jabs?

I'm 6 weeks gone since my first AZ jab. There is nobody here saying how long we have to wait, and I've read anything from 8 to 12 weeks is good.

6 weeks in SA

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