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Biffer wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:00 pm Scotland scored more the last time they played Sri Lanka. So did Oman. The way England are playing they wouldn’t have got through the qualifying tournament.

JM2K6 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:12 pm

Biffer wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:00 pm Scotland scored more the last time they played Sri Lanka. So did Oman. The way England are playing they wouldn’t have got through the qualifying tournament.

Unfortunately this undermines your argument a little bit. Qualifying and other ODIs aren't the world cup, which is a high pressure "neutral" tournament over a long period of time where plenty of teams raise their game. England won the last three odi series, losing 5 out of 14 since the last World Cup.

We were able to send a second team to beat Ireland before the world cup. You just can't replicate the world cup setup in any meaningful way.

Biffer wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:55 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:12 pm

Biffer wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:00 pm Scotland scored more the last time they played Sri Lanka. So did Oman. The way England are playing they wouldn’t have got through the qualifying tournament.

Unfortunately this undermines your argument a little bit. Qualifying and other ODIs aren't the world cup, which is a high pressure "neutral" tournament over a long period of time where plenty of teams raise their game. England won the last three odi series, losing 5 out of 14 since the last World Cup.

We were able to send a second team to beat Ireland before the world cup. You just can't replicate the world cup setup in any meaningful way.

Well, that’s the argument of someone from a country that never has to qualify, or when they do they get top seeding and a cakewalk.

JM2K6 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:09 pm

Biffer wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:55 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:12 pm

Unfortunately this undermines your argument a little bit. Qualifying and other ODIs aren't the world cup, which is a high pressure "neutral" tournament over a long period of time where plenty of teams raise their game. England won the last three odi series, losing 5 out of 14 since the last World Cup.

We were able to send a second team to beat Ireland before the world cup. You just can't replicate the world cup setup in any meaningful way.

Well, that’s the argument of someone from a country that never has to qualify, or when they do they get top seeding and a cakewalk.

Be honest: before this tournament started do you think you would have believed England wouldn't have walked qualification? There's a fair bit of 20:20 hindsight going on here.

Qualification games are a lot more like regular ODIs than they are like a world cup tournament for a host of fairly obvious reasons.

Biffer wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:23 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:09 pm

Biffer wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:55 pm

Well, that’s the argument of someone from a country that never has to qualify, or when they do they get top seeding and a cakewalk.

Be honest: before this tournament started do you think you would have believed England wouldn't have walked qualification? There's a fair bit of 20:20 hindsight going on here.

Qualification games are a lot more like regular ODIs than they are like a world cup tournament for a host of fairly obvious reasons.

No, but I thought they were better than they obviously are.

In turn, do you think that before the qualifying tournament you would have believed that West Indies would have lost to Zimbabwe, Scotland and the Netherlands in consecutive games? Or that Ireland wouldn’t even get into the super six ahead of Scotland, the Netherlands or Oman?

OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 5:13 pm The Proteas nearly didn't qualify.

Ymx wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:45 pm WTF has happened to England??

OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:23 pm The choke is on

Insane_Homer wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:22 pm

Ymx wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:45 pm WTF has happened to England??

The one-man-team's Keewee is out of form.

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:16 pm

Insane_Homer wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:22 pm

Ymx wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:45 pm WTF has happened to England??

The one-man-team's Keewee is out of form.

Yeah that's right, England were only ever good because of Durham's Ben Stokes...

Insane_Homer wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:28 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:16 pm

Insane_Homer wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:22 pm

The one-man-team's Keewee is out of form.

Yeah that's right, England were only ever good because of Durham's Ben Stokes...

13 Sep 2023

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:48 pm

Insane_Homer wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:28 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:16 pm

Yeah that's right, England were only ever good because of Durham's Ben Stokes...

13 Sep 2023

Do you need me to list the matches won by Buttler or Malan or Bairstow or Roy or Woakes or Rashid or Archer or Willey or Plunkett or Curran or Moeen or Livingstone or Morgan or...

England didn't dominate limited overs cricket by relying on Ben Stokes, and they're not shit now because he's in bad form

Insane_Homer wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:55 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:48 pm

Insane_Homer wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:28 pm

13 Sep 2023

Do you need me to list the matches won by Buttler or Malan or Bairstow or Roy or Woakes or Rashid or Archer or Willey or Plunkett or Curran or Moeen or Livingstone or Morgan or...

England didn't dominate limited overs cricket by relying on Ben Stokes, and they're not shit now because he's in bad form

Morgan and Roy aside, one of them should step up soon while he gets back to form

Thor Sedan wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 8:21 am Oh boy.....the arse has dropped out of the NZ team. When we come up against good sides we aren't that good.

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 9:18 am To go back to yesterdays match. Why did Mickey Mouse team decided to go to a spinner after their quicks did so well and nearly knock us over?

Biffer wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:43 am This ground is absolutely stunning.

Afghanistan need 70 runs in 87 balls.

Current RR: 4.84
• Required RR: 4.82
• Last 5 ov (RR): 32/0 (6.40)