NPR

Sards wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:50 am All I know is I am over this side and the cancer they represent....

assfly wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:34 am I was watching PSdT on Use it or Lose it last night. He spoke about the mental challenge the Boks faced being in the bubble and not being able to see friends and family.

I suspect the Boks are mentally in a bad place right now, long before they even get onto the field. Rassie managed to manage it when we were in Japan for so long, but some of these guys have been in the Bok bubble since June.

Sandstorm wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:54 am

Sards wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:50 am All I know is I am over this side and the cancer they represent....

*yawn*

Sards wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:49 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:44 am

Sards wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:42 am

Maybe give JLDP a shot....and Dan

Is JLdP in the squad?

You never know who is in the squad because Rassie doesn't change the team

boere wors wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 9:07 am

assfly wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:34 am I was watching PSdT on Use it or Lose it last night. He spoke about the mental challenge the Boks faced being in the bubble and not being able to see friends and family.

I suspect the Boks are mentally in a bad place right now, long before they even get onto the field. Rassie managed to manage it when we were in Japan for so long, but some of these guys have been in the Bok bubble since June.

Can imagine that and it looks like it. Guys are on the road for 3 month now. I would loose interest as well tbh

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 9:51 am

Sards wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:49 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:44 am
Is JLdP in the squad?

You never know who is in the squad because Rassie doesn't change the team

Are u stupid to think he can fly a player over for a test in Australia within a week?

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 9:55 am

boere wors wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 9:07 am

assfly wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:34 am I was watching PSdT on Use it or Lose it last night. He spoke about the mental challenge the Boks faced being in the bubble and not being able to see friends and family.

I suspect the Boks are mentally in a bad place right now, long before they even get onto the field. Rassie managed to manage it when we were in Japan for so long, but some of these guys have been in the Bok bubble since June.

Can imagine that and it looks like it. Guys are on the road for 3 month now. I would loose interest as well tbh

Well they are professional sportsmen and get paid a fortune.

No excuse.

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 9:55 am

boere wors wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 9:07 am

assfly wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:34 am I was watching PSdT on Use it or Lose it last night. He spoke about the mental challenge the Boks faced being in the bubble and not being able to see friends and family.

I suspect the Boks are mentally in a bad place right now, long before they even get onto the field. Rassie managed to manage it when we were in Japan for so long, but some of these guys have been in the Bok bubble since June.

Can imagine that and it looks like it. Guys are on the road for 3 month now. I would loose interest as well tbh

Well they are professional sportsmen and get paid a fortune.

No excuse.

boere wors wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 10:51 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 9:55 am

boere wors wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 9:07 am
Can imagine that and it looks like it. Guys are on the road for 3 month now. I would loose interest as well tbh

Well they are professional sportsmen and get paid a fortune.

No excuse.

It is no excuse, right. But it doesnt change the fact that it can become a problem mentally.

Sards wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:40 am Today feels so empty....
Like that tea bag that has been squeezed of all flavor.

I don't quite think Nienaber understands the impact back home.

To say that the coaches got their planning wrong is just not good enough.

Ah well. There is plenty of shit going on with the Sharks in the new tournament to keep me occupied the next few days.

Seriously not looking forward to the ABs match. It's going to be a slaughter

Chilli wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 11:54 am When playing rugby is your job, and part of your job is that you have to be away from home for a while then rather quit ( like that lock did) and go home. Rather have a mentally tougher guy there, than someone can't cope.

assfly wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:53 am

Chilli wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 11:54 am When playing rugby is your job, and part of your job is that you have to be away from home for a while then rather quit ( like that lock did) and go home. Rather have a mentally tougher guy there, than someone can't cope.

Ja I agree to a point, these guys are getting paid well to do this. But we're still dealing with human beings here who also need their emotions and mental health managed. I wonder what support they are getting.

It's a good point about NJvR. I wonder what the personal reasons were?

A couple of scribes have also commented that away from the field the Boks are a bit ratty at the moment.

assfly wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:53 am

Chilli wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 11:54 am When playing rugby is your job, and part of your job is that you have to be away from home for a while then rather quit ( like that lock did) and go home. Rather have a mentally tougher guy there, than someone can't cope.

Ja I agree to a point, these guys are getting paid well to do this. But we're still dealing with human beings here who also need their emotions and mental health managed. I wonder what support they are getting.

It's a good point about NJvR. I wonder what the personal reasons were?

A couple of scribes have also commented that away from the field the Boks are a bit ratty at the moment.

FalseBayFC wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:23 am

assfly wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:53 am

Chilli wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 11:54 am When playing rugby is your job, and part of your job is that you have to be away from home for a while then rather quit ( like that lock did) and go home. Rather have a mentally tougher guy there, than someone can't cope.

Ja I agree to a point, these guys are getting paid well to do this. But we're still dealing with human beings here who also need their emotions and mental health managed. I wonder what support they are getting.

It's a good point about NJvR. I wonder what the personal reasons were?

A couple of scribes have also commented that away from the field the Boks are a bit ratty at the moment.

True - but these are twenty something year olds staying in first class hotels. Etzebeth's club salary is about R15 million rand. My grandpa was in Tobruk at that age. Although I don't for an instant think that NJVR wasn't justified in his decision. We aren't privy to what it was. If its depression or another mental health issue then its the right decision.

Chilli wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:21 am

assfly wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:53 am

Chilli wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 11:54 am When playing rugby is your job, and part of your job is that you have to be away from home for a while then rather quit ( like that lock did) and go home. Rather have a mentally tougher guy there, than someone can't cope.

Ja I agree to a point, these guys are getting paid well to do this. But we're still dealing with human beings here who also need their emotions and mental health managed. I wonder what support they are getting.

It's a good point about NJvR. I wonder what the personal reasons were?

A couple of scribes have also commented that away from the field the Boks are a bit ratty at the moment.

Duanne looked disinterested in the last 2 tests
Eben has gone from a fire breathing, baby eating monster to a polite guy, just going through the motions.


There is something wrong in the squad

FalseBayFC wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:23 am

assfly wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:53 am

Chilli wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 11:54 am When playing rugby is your job, and part of your job is that you have to be away from home for a while then rather quit ( like that lock did) and go home. Rather have a mentally tougher guy there, than someone can't cope.

Ja I agree to a point, these guys are getting paid well to do this. But we're still dealing with human beings here who also need their emotions and mental health managed. I wonder what support they are getting.

It's a good point about NJvR. I wonder what the personal reasons were?

A couple of scribes have also commented that away from the field the Boks are a bit ratty at the moment.

True - but these are twenty something year olds staying in first class hotels. Etzebeth's club salary is about R15 million rand. My grandpa was in Tobruk at that age. Although I don't for an instant think that NJVR wasn't justified in his decision. We aren't privy to what it was. If its depression or another mental health issue then its the right decision.

FalseBayFC wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:28 am

Chilli wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:21 am

assfly wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:53 am

Ja I agree to a point, these guys are getting paid well to do this. But we're still dealing with human beings here who also need their emotions and mental health managed. I wonder what support they are getting.

It's a good point about NJvR. I wonder what the personal reasons were?

A couple of scribes have also commented that away from the field the Boks are a bit ratty at the moment.

Duanne looked disinterested in the last 2 tests
Eben has gone from a fire breathing, baby eating monster to a polite guy, just going through the motions.


There is something wrong in the squad

I think Duanne's tank may be a little empty physically. The fire may still be there but the body not responding. He'll almost certainly announce retirement from international rugby after this tour. He's signed on for a season in Ireland and deserves a chance to go and bolster his nest egg.

Eben also looks a bit flat physically. The Aussies played a high tempo game and the big lads didn't have their usual zip. A bit run off their feet.

Chilli wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:07 am 3 losses on the trot with another one on the cards this weekend coming..........how many losses until we start looking for a replacement coach?

Sards wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:24 am My biggest concern is the affect the bok gameplan is going to have on our youngsters going forward....what kind of future are we looking at for them. Are we ever going to be able to break this cycle

Sandstorm wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:30 am

Sards wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:24 am My biggest concern is the affect the bok gameplan is going to have on our youngsters going forward....what kind of future are we looking at for them. Are we ever going to be able to break this cycle

Is there any thread you haven’t posted this exact statement on? Brexit? Billboard 500?

Sards wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:15 am

Chilli wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:07 am 3 losses on the trot with another one on the cards this weekend coming..........how many losses until we start looking for a replacement coach?

I would like to see Nienaber select and coach that team first. I suspect he is still playing Rassie's Jakeball 2007 plan

Chilli wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:07 pm

Sards wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:15 am

Chilli wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:07 am 3 losses on the trot with another one on the cards this weekend coming..........how many losses until we start looking for a replacement coach?

I would like to see Nienaber select and coach that team first. I suspect he is still playing Rassie's Jakeball 2007 plan

I have to admit that I see nothing of Rassie or his coaching in these teams thst have lost the last 3 tests.

Rassie's current gameplan is what it is, but he ignites passion and mongrel into the team.
The teams that have lost the last 3 tests have a lemsip and a walk, then go play.

I'd rather win ugly........

sorCrer wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:21 pm

Chilli wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:07 pm

Sards wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:15 am

I would like to see Nienaber select and coach that team first. I suspect he is still playing Rassie's Jakeball 2007 plan

I have to admit that I see nothing of Rassie or his coaching in these teams thst have lost the last 3 tests.

Rassie's current gameplan is what it is, but he ignites passion and mongrel into the team.
The teams that have lost the last 3 tests have a lemsip and a walk, then go play.

I'd rather win ugly........

A lemsip and a walk?

Chilli wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:07 pm

Sards wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:15 am

Chilli wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:07 am 3 losses on the trot with another one on the cards this weekend coming..........how many losses until we start looking for a replacement coach?

I would like to see Nienaber select and coach that team first. I suspect he is still playing Rassie's Jakeball 2007 plan

I have to admit that I see nothing of Rassie or his coaching in these teams thst have lost the last 3 tests.

Rassie's current gameplan is what it is, but he ignites passion and mongrel into the team.
The teams that have lost the last 3 tests have a lemsip and a walk, then go play.

I'd rather win ugly........

Sards wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:27 pm

Chilli wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:07 pm

Sards wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:15 am

I would like to see Nienaber select and coach that team first. I suspect he is still playing Rassie's Jakeball 2007 plan

I have to admit that I see nothing of Rassie or his coaching in these teams thst have lost the last 3 tests.

Rassie's current gameplan is what it is, but he ignites passion and mongrel into the team.
The teams that have lost the last 3 tests have a lemsip and a walk, then go play.

I'd rather win ugly........

It's the same team Rassie chose second test Argentina and BILs. Remember. We lost to NZ at RWC and never faced a SH side till the Argies....before that was NH team's....the first Argies test when Rassie was tied up in the final BILs test Nienaber selected

sorCrer wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:29 pm

Sards wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:27 pm
It's the same team Rassie chose second test Argentina and BILs. Remember. We lost to NZ at RWC and never faced a SH side till the Argies....before that was NH team's....the first Argies test when Rassie was tied up in the final BILs test Nienaber selected

Wiese will be back this weekend.

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:29 pm You know that Frans Malherbe is a smoker. He need to take an entjie break every 10 minutes.

Smoke or not, he had Moody's number.

Sards wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:32 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:29 pm You know that Frans Malherbe is a smoker. He need to take an entjie break every 10 minutes.

Smoke or not, he had Moody's number.

I don't think we won a single scrum penalty...they won 2 I think

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:33 pm

Sards wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:32 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:29 pm You know that Frans Malherbe is a smoker. He need to take an entjie break every 10 minutes.

Smoke or not, he had Moody's number.

I don't think we won a single scrum penalty...they won 2 I think

I think you did not watch the test you posted 10 posts you was at you laaities cricket and he scored a duck, exc

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:33 pm

Sards wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:32 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:29 pm You know that Frans Malherbe is a smoker. He need to take an entjie break every 10 minutes.

Smoke or not, he had Moody's number.

I don't think we won a single scrum penalty...they won 2 I think

I think you did not watch the test you posted 10 posts you was at you laaities cricket and he scored a duck, exc

Sandstorm wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:43 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:33 pm

Sards wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:32 pm

I don't think we won a single scrum penalty...they won 2 I think

I think you did not watch the test you posted 10 posts you was at you laaities cricket and he scored a duck, exc

Sards wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:46 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:33 pm

Sards wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:32 pm

I don't think we won a single scrum penalty...they won 2 I think

I think you did not watch the test you posted 10 posts you was at you laaities cricket and he scored a duck, exc

You obviously didn't listen.....

I remember the commentator saying that the ABs got another scrum penalty....maybe I was wrong.

Sards wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:27 pm 64 minutes...bok scrum penalty
71 minutes...bok scrum penalty