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So I thought Sexton wasn’t permitted to play under new framework as he failed his HIA.

But he is?
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Ymx wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:52 am So I thought Sexton wasn’t permitted to play under new framework as he failed his HIA.

But he is?
Passed HIA2 and HIA3....
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Uncle fester wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:09 am You lads are gas for constructing narratives. Ireland players are dropping like flies. I expect a lot of huff and puff but similar result to last week.
You're an optimist.

I expect less huff and more puff. A YC or two as one or two who will have had their manhood called into question, and their inability to police clutter around the breakdowns called into question, to overcompensate. Space which will be punished by the best in the world at knowing what to do with space.

There are too many in that Irish side whose form over the tail end of the season has been stagnating, at best, still being picked; for a variety of well-aired reasons. Form is individual momentum, and 2-3 of them have none, coupled with another handful whose form has been regressing. It is what it is. If NZ come with intent, as they do in any home game they play, it'll be worse than last week.

0 & 5 on the cards.
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Gumboot wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 11:49 pm Fair to say Ennor's probably played his way out - for the short term, at least?
I've said this for some time but I've never seen Ennor as being AB quality - he's big and quick but has always seemed to lack the top 2 inches and seems to suffer in comparison to his peers in terms of ball skills.
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2 things
1) I thought the new HIA protocol was 12 days min regardless?
2) How TF did Barrett escape a citing?
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Kiwias wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 11:42 pm ... PT can GTFO.
Being Japan-based, you'd have more idea than us how Tuipoluto fared in his recent stint there.
But media reports have it that he has fined down to his best condition ever and might be a dynamic revelation under the roof over the last quarter.

... or that might just be wishful fantasizing.
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Brodie has come back strong from his stint over there. Hopefully DMac as well but we won't see whether her suffered for his break.

I cannot see how some R&R with some easy rugby can be harmful. The know-nothings seem to think it does hurt them though
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Enzedder wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:40 pm Brodie has come back strong from his stint over there. Hopefully DMac as well but we won't see whether her suffered for his break.

I cannot see how some R&R with some easy rugby can be harmful. The know-nothings seem to think it does hurt them though
Brodie struggled when he came back at first and a lot of posters were commenting on his loss of weight as a factor.
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:36 pm 2 things
1) I thought the new HIA protocol was 12 days min regardless?
2) How TF did Barrett escape a citing?
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:36 pm 2 things
1) I thought the new HIA protocol was 12 days min regardless?
2) How TF did Barrett escape a citing?
Boy where did you see HIA protocols were 12 days, it's only if player get concussed which you can't be sure about in 15 minutes. as wht protocols have multi tests.
The in-game HIA 1 identifies a suspected concussion, which leads to a player being removed from a game.

But a failed HIA 1 is only officially recognised as a concussion if a player fails a more substantive HIA 2 after the match and the HIA 3, which takes place between 36-48 hours later.
FFS I agree we have to be careful, but if we make a 15 minute test is conclsive if a player is concussed we going to have trouble!!

2 Why would Barrett get cited? He has to make head contact and ref (who was right there) said it was shoulder to shoulder. Did you think Michael Hooper should of been cited for his which was almost exactly same?
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Dan54 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:29 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:36 pm 2 things
1) I thought the new HIA protocol was 12 days min regardless?
2) How TF did Barrett escape a citing?
Boy where did you see HIA protocols were 12 days, it's only if player get concussed which you can't be sure about in 15 minutes. as wht protocols have multi tests.
The in-game HIA 1 identifies a suspected concussion, which leads to a player being removed from a game.

But a failed HIA 1 is only officially recognised as a concussion if a player fails a more substantive HIA 2 after the match and the HIA 3, which takes place between 36-48 hours later.
FFS I agree we have to be careful, but if we make a 15 minute test is conclsive if a player is concussed we going to have trouble!!

2 Why would Barrett get cited? He has to make head contact and ref (who was right there) said it was shoulder to shoulder. Did you think Michael Hooper should of been cited for his which was almost exactly same?
Thanks for HIA clarification.

As for Barrett, you have to be f**king kidding. But what the hell, the man is a liability and I hope the ABs take him to the RWC because there is a chance, with decent officials, that he'll cost them a game by his reckless behaviour.
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Guy Smiley wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:15 am
Brodie struggled when he came back (from Japan) at first and a lot of posters were commenting on his loss of weight as a factor.
Correct, but Brodie played great at his former weight.
Tuipulota though always carried excess. 2-3 years back, when he regained some favor with both selectors and critics, he attributed his improved form to a better diet and subsequent trim.
Seems he's now even leaner.
But certainly if things are tight when he comes on then there will be fan nervousness, and crossed fingers that he doesn't spill ball.
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Ymx wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:48 am Three open sides

That’s a mobile back row, with the least mobile playing 7.

But to be honest, it’s not too bad. It’s only really the scrum where they fix their position. So can mostly play their natural game.
I like the wording in this take on our loosies:

... the blue collar work ethic of Papalii and Cane leaves Savea to once again rack up the crowd-pleasing carries and tries. There is every indication that if this works well, this may well be the way the All Black loose forward trio will look heading into next year's World Cup.
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:15 am
Dan54 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:29 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:36 pm 2 things
1) I thought the new HIA protocol was 12 days min regardless?
2) How TF did Barrett escape a citing?
Boy where did you see HIA protocols were 12 days, it's only if player get concussed which you can't be sure about in 15 minutes. as wht protocols have multi tests.
The in-game HIA 1 identifies a suspected concussion, which leads to a player being removed from a game.

But a failed HIA 1 is only officially recognised as a concussion if a player fails a more substantive HIA 2 after the match and the HIA 3, which takes place between 36-48 hours later.
FFS I agree we have to be careful, but if we make a 15 minute test is conclsive if a player is concussed we going to have trouble!!

2 Why would Barrett get cited? He has to make head contact and ref (who was right there) said it was shoulder to shoulder. Did you think Michael Hooper should of been cited for his which was almost exactly same?
Thanks for HIA clarification.

As for Barrett, you have to be f**king kidding. But what the hell, the man is a liability and I hope the ABs take him to the RWC because there is a chance, with decent officials, that he'll cost them a game by his reckless behaviour.
No not kidding, did you not hear what ref said? Shoulder to shoulder. Funnily enough in a Australian rugby site, a poster had a whole article showing how ABs got away with off sides etc on weekend, (with little videos etc) and then some of how good the Wallabies were. I had a laugh and pointed out hiw editting was shit and one of Aussie one clearly shows Hooper going in from side of ruch etc, and another one where he does axactly same thing as Barrett, and when I pointed it out you know what answer was ? Oh but commentators didn't say anything!! And Hooper is the most carded man in Test rugby history, but because he wasn't seen as this weeks bad boy it's not mentuioned. Now you may not have watched Wallabies test so I won't accuse you of being biased etc, but we can see what we want in rugby.
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Game day. Let's go Black!!!
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Go, All Blacks!
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Getting excited about this one
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Utterly criminal, that ball should have gone out. Bet he was glad they scored that eventually
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Ireland look pumped

Great try
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The apparent tactic for tonight: kick the ball away to the Irish so we can then practice our defence before conceding the almost inevitable try.
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Positive start, but last week started well too - let's give it 20 minutes.

Good for the test match anyway.
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Henshaw had no excuse for not catching that, it was on a plate.
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Looking like a bunch of headless chicken out there.
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10-0 up, and good value for the lead.
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I hope to fuck that when Foster makes his back replacements that he puts Mo at 10 and Jordan at 15, replacing BB and JB.
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Red.

Strange coincidence Hansen stayed on the floor with the physio until the moment a TMO review was called
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Any other team! Sorry NZ’s but that’s not right.
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Red card
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What is a player in mid-air meant to do?
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Lucky yellow, could have easily been a Red
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Should have been a red card
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Ireland should take the 3 points
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Kiwias wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:26 am What is a player in mid-air meant to do?
Perhaps not launch himself like a missile in the first place. Normally a charge down tends to have arms up? Or you disagree.
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Irish commentary calling for a red. Quelle surprise.

Edit: and the “neutrals”
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PCPhil wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:27 am
Kiwias wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:26 am What is a player in mid-air meant to do?
Perhaps not launch himself like a missile in the first place. Normally a charge down tends to have arms up? Or you disagree.
Gets explained there, needs his arms up and to keep them up.
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PCPhil wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:27 am
Kiwias wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:26 am What is a player in mid-air meant to do?
Perhaps not launch himself like a missile in the first place. Normally a charge down tends to have arms up? Or you disagree.
He had his arms up but lowered them when he realised he could not block the kick. As Cane said, he would have been alright had he klept his arms up in the air
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Kiwias wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:28 am
PCPhil wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:27 am
Kiwias wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:26 am What is a player in mid-air meant to do?
Perhaps not launch himself like a missile in the first place. Normally a charge down tends to have arms up? Or you disagree.
He had his arms up but lowered them when he realised he could not block the kick. As Cane said, he would have been alright had he klept his arms up in the air
Not even a pen then. Let’s leave it here.
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Too many box kicks by Smith
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Good to see the All Blacks box kicking.
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PCPhil wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:29 am
Kiwias wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:28 am
PCPhil wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:27 am

Perhaps not launch himself like a missile in the first place. Normally a charge down tends to have arms up? Or you disagree.
He had his arms up but lowered them when he realised he could not block the kick. As Cane said, he would have been alright had he klept his arms up in the air
Not even a pen then. Let’s leave it here.
Yeah, that sounds good. I mean the man is wearing black.
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What’s the point of smith doing a box kick if no coordination with chasers.
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