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Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:50 am**

Slick wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:43 am
PCPhil wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:24 am Care awful so far. We had a great new scrum half last week but we changed it.
Eddie said in the pre match interview that the Kiwi ref meant loads of quick ball so wanted Care. Which obviously hasn’t happened but Eddie got to feel clever for a bit

Jvp is hardly slow and quite likes to go on a run.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:50 am**

Care hooked.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:51 am**

Don't be a prick Eddie. Make the change at HT

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:52 am**

Margin__Walker wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:51 am Don't be a prick Eddie. Make the change at HT

He’s such a cunt

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:52 am**

A little ironic that it was Care's best mate Monye who brought up that Eddie hasn't been prepared to yank anyone early recently.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:52 am**

Raggs wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:50 amCare yanked.

I’ve liked Care over the years butJust wasn’t his match and the change put too much pressure on him.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:52 am**

More dumb: why didn't White just kick deep? Esp this close to 1/2 time

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:53 am**

Margin__Walker wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:51 am Don't be a prick Eddie. Make the change at HT

Yeah, realistically, what does JVP change in the remaining 3 minutes of the half?

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:53 am**

Margin__Walker wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:51 am Don't be a prick Eddie. Make the change at HT

Why change the habit of a lifetime?

Much better to show them who is in charge.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:53 am**

Margin__Walker wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:51 am Don't be a prick Eddie. Make the change at HT

You know, I was just thinking why not leave to 1/2 time and pretend it was an injury.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:54 am**

Nah, good call in that case.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:54 am**

sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:53 am
Margin__Walker wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:51 am Don't be a prick Eddie. Make the change at HT
Yeah, realistically, what does JVP change in the remaining 3 minutes of the half?

That?

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:55 am**

Repeat pattern from last week. Aus stupidity really gifting Eng points.

TF it's 1/2 time. I need a coffee to wake me up from this one.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:55 am**

Raggs wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:54 am
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:53 am
Margin__Walker wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:51 am Don't be a prick Eddie. Make the change at HT
Yeah, realistically, what does JVP change in the remaining 3 minutes of the half?
That?

Nah, Care's making that pass too.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:56 am**

Slick wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:52 am
Margin__Walker wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:51 am Don't be a prick Eddie. Make the change at HT
He’s such a cunt

He is. Subbing someone three minutes before HT is adding salt to the wound and rubbing it in whilst everyone is watching.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:56 am**

Raggs wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:22 am
Flockwitt wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:02 am
Raggs wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:00 am Anyone got a decent stream? Only got the vk.com one working, would rather be able to hear the ref (and put up with the commentary).
If you can VPN into Oz Channel 9 has it free to air... so my friend informs me.
There's fecking ads all the time!

"Free" to air

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:56 am**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:55 am Repeat pattern from last week. Aus stupidity really gifting Eng points.

TF it's 1/2 time. I need a coffee to wake me up from this one.

Smith and Porter with bad misses in defence vs Aus just being daft. It's a race to the bottom!

Margin__Walker wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:55 am by Margin__Walker » Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:55 am

He gave Hill! a high pass under similar pressure to go forward earlier, I'm not sure he does, at least not as clean.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:57 am**

Flockwitt wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:56 am
Raggs wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:22 am
Flockwitt wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:02 am

If you can VPN into Oz Channel 9 has it free to air... so my friend informs me.
There's fecking ads all the time!
"Free" to air

So show the ads during half time and the water breaks, not hoping you can squash them in as a scrum is called.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:57 am**

Hmm. JVP handled that attack very well. Prickish but it’s worked

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:57 am**

Yup, he's a vindictive little shit. This way he gets to say he's making the big call instead of having to admit that swapping the 9s again was a mistake in the first place.

England showing a couple of things in attack but are mostly a big sloshing bag of piss again.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:58 am**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:55 am Repeat pattern from last week. Aus stupidity really gifting Eng points.

TF it's 1/2 time. I need a coffee to wake me up from this one.

I’m quite enjoying it.

Aus look like winning things out wide and England in the tight, classic rugby

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:58 am**

Raggs wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:56 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:55 am Repeat pattern from last week. Aus stupidity really gifting Eng points.

TF it's 1/2 time. I need a coffee to wake me up from this one.
Smith and Porter with bad misses in defence vs Aus just being daft. It's a race to the bottom!

Agree. And I know there has been a lot of rain, but the paucity of pace around the park

It looks like slow motion cw with earlier.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:58 am**

Raggs wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:57 am
Flockwitt wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:56 am
Raggs wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:22 am

There's fecking ads all the time!
"Free" to air
So show the ads during half time and the water breaks, not hoping you can squash them in as a scrum is called.

Are they really doing that?

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:59 am**

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:57 am Yup, he's a vindictive little shit. This way he gets to say he's making the big call instead of having to admit that swapping the 9s again was a mistake in the first place.

England showing a couple of things in attack but are mostly a big sloshing bag of piss again.

He got the call wrong, but not expecting Care to play like garbage (regardless of how well JVP did last week) isn't crazy.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:59 am**

PCPhil wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:52 am
Raggs wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:50 amCare yanked.
I’ve liked Care over the years butJust wasn’t his match and the change put too much pressure on him.

Care and Youngs shouldn't be near the England team. Board much kinder to Care than Youngs.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:00 am**

Raggs wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:56 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:55 am Repeat pattern from last week. Aus stupidity really gifting Eng points.

TF it's 1/2 time. I need a coffee to wake me up from this one.
Smith and Porter with bad misses in defence vs Aus just being daft. It's a race to the bottom!

Margin__Walker wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:55 am by Margin__Walker » Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:55 am
He gave Hill! a high pass under similar pressure to go forward earlier, I'm not sure he does, at least not as clean.

He's topped the prem try assist charts for two years running. You don't do that without having some accuracy in the red zone. I reckon he'd be fine in that situation.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:00 am**

Slick wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:58 am
Raggs wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:57 am
Flockwitt wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:56 am
"Free" to air
So show the ads during half time and the water breaks, not hoping you can squash them in as a scrum is called.
Are they really doing that?

Yep. Crazy. They let most the water break go without one since the commentary were doing "analysis".

I'm hoping they've got a quota to hit and they're just trying squash them in asap.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:01 am**

Margin__Walker wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:00 am
Raggs wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:56 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:55 am Repeat pattern from last week. Aus stupidity really gifting Eng points.

TF it's 1/2 time. I need a coffee to wake me up from this one.
Smith and Porter with bad misses in defence vs Aus just being daft. It's a race to the bottom!

Margin__Walker wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:55 am by Margin__Walker » Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:55 am
He gave Hill! a high pass under similar pressure to go forward earlier, I'm not sure he does, at least not as clean.
He's topped the prem try assist charts for two years running. You don't do that without having some accuracy in the red zone. I reckon he'd be fine in that situation.

Alex Goode is fantastic in the prem week in week out, but couldn't ever bring it to international. Care had a very good international career, but he's been poor all 37 minutes today, I'd not have backed him for that last bit.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:03 am**

Margin__Walker wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:00 am
Raggs wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:56 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:55 am Repeat pattern from last week. Aus stupidity really gifting Eng points.

TF it's 1/2 time. I need a coffee to wake me up from this one.
Smith and Porter with bad misses in defence vs Aus just being daft. It's a race to the bottom!

Margin__Walker wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:55 am by Margin__Walker » Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:55 am
He gave Hill! a high pass under similar pressure to go forward earlier, I'm not sure he does, at least not as clean.
He's topped the prem try assist charts for two years running. You don't do that without having some accuracy in the red zone. I reckon he'd be fine in that situation.

I think we’re more concerned with this particular match?

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:04 am**

He has been off the pace and shouldn't really have been starting. He could have executed a simple pass a yard out though.

Pulling a player 2 minutes before half time though is shit house.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:04 am**

Greenwoods right about the England defence - players seem to be playing their own systems.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:04 am**

Porter looks completely out of his depth. Assuming Eddie isn't being a total prick and Marchant has a niggle, giving Dingwall a shot would have been a better shout.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:04 am**

Margin__Walker wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:04 am He has been off the pace and shouldn't really have been starting. He could have executed a simple pass a yard out though.

Pulling a player 2 minutes before half time though is shit house.

That wasn't a simple pass, and he'd already passed a short pass virtually over Hills head.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:05 am**

Score @ 1/2 time?

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:06 am**

Thats Care's last game for England. Smith needs a big second half. Porter is an empty shirt, bring on Joseph.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:06 am**

Raggs wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:04 am
Margin__Walker wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:04 am He has been off the pace and shouldn't really have been starting. He could have executed a simple pass a yard out though.

Pulling a player 2 minutes before half time though is shit house.
That wasn't a simple pass, and he'd already passed a short pass virtually over Hills head.

Yeah, just watched the replay. That was a simple pass.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:09 am**

Margin__Walker wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:06 am
Raggs wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:04 am
Margin__Walker wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:04 am He has been off the pace and shouldn't really have been starting. He could have executed a simple pass a yard out though.

Pulling a player 2 minutes before half time though is shit house.
That wasn't a simple pass, and he'd already passed a short pass virtually over Hills head.
Yeah, just watched the replay. That was a simple pass.

The one to Hill? It certainly was.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:09 am**

Margin__Walker wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:06 am
Raggs wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:04 am
Margin__Walker wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:04 am He has been off the pace and shouldn't really have been starting. He could have executed a simple pass a yard out though.

Pulling a player 2 minutes before half time though is shit house.
That wasn't a simple pass, and he'd already passed a short pass virtually over Hills head.
Yeah, just watched the replay. That was a simple pass.

Whatever pros and cons the final result was good so a very moot discussion.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:09 am**

Raggs wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:59 am
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:57 am Yup, he's a vindictive little shit. This way he gets to say he's making the big call instead of having to admit that swapping the 9s again was a mistake in the first place.

England showing a couple of things in attack but are mostly a big sloshing bag of piss again.
He got the call wrong, but not expecting Care to play like garbage (regardless of how well JVP did last week) isn't crazy.

Care has done that quite often in his England career when starting which is how Youngs has amassed more caps. Youngs had a slightly higher floor. They both tend to look better as the sub than starting. Time to move on from Youngs and Care.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:15 am**

Steward is amazing in the air.

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