Boomer Culture Vs Millennial Culture

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I saw a discussion on another site and thought that this could bring up some interesting comparisons here.

I'll open with a couple from the site

Boomer Culture
Boomer culture is owning a cabinet of expensive China nobody can use then complaining about "wasting money on electronics"

Boomer Culture
Boomer culture is sharing a lengthy post on Facebook (or PR) about how socialism kills children’s pets with a picture of the Joker, adding the caption “This hits the nail, right on the head .”

Millennial Culture
Millennial culture is trying to find recommendations for moving companies and realizing that none of your friends have ever owned furniture nice enough to move from one city to another.

Millennial Culture
Millennial culture is having 3 different conversations
with the same person,
across multiple platforms,
simultaneously.
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Millennials turn 40 this year
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sturginho wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:04 am Millennials turn 40 this year
They turn forty this year and yet they are still children.

The future is dark.
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One of the things I have observed is that boomers tend to like a drink. In contrast millenials seem to be more into coffee.

The legacy the boomers are leaving is an interesting one to consider - collectively they did not treat the nuclear family and marriage with the kind of reverence that prior generations did and I fear that has had far reaching consequences for society. Personally speaking both my wife and I's parents divorced and subsequently remarried and we see it as our parental duty to restore our families back to the traditional "till death do us part" type of marriage dynamic. In addition to the expected step parent challenges the eight grandparents thing is a bit of a mess if I'm being honest.
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Green light echo wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:11 am
sturginho wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:04 am Millennials turn 40 this year
They turn forty this year and yet they are still children.

The future is dark.
Such insightful comments, and yet the millennials are the children
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Hugo wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:22 am One of the things I have observed is that boomers tend to like a drink. In contrast millenials seem to be more into coffee.

The legacy the boomers are leaving is an interesting one to consider - collectively they did not treat the nuclear family and marriage with the kind of reverence that prior generations did and I fear that has had far reaching consequences for society. Personally speaking both my wife and I's parents divorced and subsequently remarried and we see it as our parental duty to restore our families back to the traditional "till death do us part" type of marriage dynamic. In addition to the expected step parent challenges the eight grandparents thing is a bit of a mess if I'm being honest.
The nuclear families thing is really interesting and I think there's some truth to it. As a millennial, I'm seeing very few poor matches or ones that have big red flags over them. The marriages are by and large between people who have been dating for a long time and living together for at least a few years. People are taking it much more seriously than seemingly boomers did it.
I get a sense that in twenty odd years comedians of a certain age will make far fewer jokes about hating the wife.

Drinking is a bit of a misnomer - millennials drink differently by and large rather than less, more likely to drink once or twice a week but very heavily, than have a g&t or two at 6 o'clock every day.

The big thing that differentiates the two generations for me (in the UK anyway) stems from property - at my age and on basically equivalent salaries my parents bought a four bed house with a garden that they still live in, whilst my partner and I rent a flat. Certainly for middle class millennials I think a huge amount of political attitudes stem from this principle.
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The whole boomer vs millennial thing was done to death over 9 months ago

Typical boomer thread, way behind the times. :wink:
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sturginho wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:41 am
Green light echo wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:11 am
sturginho wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:04 am Millennials turn 40 this year
They turn forty this year and yet they are still children.

The future is dark.
Such insightful comments, and yet the millennials are the children

You may want to spend an inordinate amount of time being a nerd on an internet forum. I do not.

But hey. Fill ya boots.
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Green light echo wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:33 am
sturginho wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:41 am
Green light echo wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:11 am They turn forty this year and yet they are still children.

The future is dark.
Such insightful comments, and yet the millennials are the children

You may want to spend an inordinate amount of time being a nerd on an internet forum. I do not.

But hey. Fill ya boots.
and yet here you are...

Boomer lack of self awareness at its finest...
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yermum wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:46 am
Green light echo wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:33 am
sturginho wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:41 am
Such insightful comments, and yet the millennials are the children

You may want to spend an inordinate amount of time being a nerd on an internet forum. I do not.

But hey. Fill ya boots.
and yet here you are...

Boomer lack of self awareness at its finest...
X factor thank you very much.
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If I know 1 thing about boomers, it is that they will definitely repay the sacrifices everyone else has made over the past year to keep them from dying.

They definitely won't complain when wealth taxes etc are implemented to cover the cost of saving their asses.

They definitely will show lots of gratitude to younger generations for all of this
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Hugo wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:22 am One of the things I have observed is that boomers tend to like a drink. In contrast millenials seem to be more into coffee.

The legacy the boomers are leaving is an interesting one to consider - collectively they did not treat the nuclear family and marriage with the kind of reverence that prior generations did and I fear that has had far reaching consequences for society. Personally speaking both my wife and I's parents divorced and subsequently remarried and we see it as our parental duty to restore our families back to the traditional "till death do us part" type of marriage dynamic. In addition to the expected step parent challenges the eight grandparents thing is a bit of a mess if I'm being honest.
Undue reverence for marriage also caused problems, though - people staying in relationships that really should have ended at best created negative environments that bred resentment and at worst resulted in horrendous domestic violence. Kids involved upped the ante. Divorce becoming a possibility was a boon to many, it'll never stop the aforementioned from happening, but it's an option that too many badly needed and couldn't take advantage of in the past.

We're now getting to a point where fewer people are marrying, but divorce rates of those that do are declining. People are, generally speaking, making better choices about who to commit their life to.

I'm a mid-millenial (31).
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Green light echo wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:33 am
sturginho wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:41 am
Green light echo wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:11 am

They turn forty this year and yet they are still children.

The future is dark.
Such insightful comments, and yet the millennials are the children

You may want to spend an inordinate amount of time being a nerd on an internet forum. I do not.

But hey. Fill ya boots.
He says on an internet forum :Bulldog:

And yet, the millennials are the children
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Lemoentjie wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:07 am If I know 1 thing about boomers, it is that they will definitely repay the sacrifices everyone else has made over the past year to keep them from dying.

They definitely won't complain when wealth taxes etc are implemented to cover the cost of saving their asses.

They definitely will show lots of gratitude to younger generations for all of this
Oh right. Believe it or not many of us aware that the younger generations are made up of our children and grandchildren that we allegedly don’t give a damn about.
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GogLais wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:28 am
Lemoentjie wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:07 am If I know 1 thing about boomers, it is that they will definitely repay the sacrifices everyone else has made over the past year to keep them from dying.

They definitely won't complain when wealth taxes etc are implemented to cover the cost of saving their asses.

They definitely will show lots of gratitude to younger generations for all of this
Oh right. Believe it or not many of us aware that the younger generations are made up of our children and grandchildren that we allegedly don’t give a damn about.
I'm fascinated to see the reaction as and when the triple lock goes.
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Paddington Bear wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:35 am
GogLais wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:28 am
Lemoentjie wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:07 am If I know 1 thing about boomers, it is that they will definitely repay the sacrifices everyone else has made over the past year to keep them from dying.

They definitely won't complain when wealth taxes etc are implemented to cover the cost of saving their asses.

They definitely will show lots of gratitude to younger generations for all of this
Oh right. Believe it or not many of us aware that the younger generations are made up of our children and grandchildren that we allegedly don’t give a damn about.
I'm fascinated to see the reaction as and when the triple lock goes.
Ms GL and I are lucky enough to have decent pension income between us so we wouldn’t miss the triple lock. Others less fortunate would but governments don’t go in for means testing so we all get it.
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Lemoentjie wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:07 am If I know 1 thing about boomers, it is that they will definitely repay the sacrifices everyone else has made over the past year to keep them from dying.

They definitely won't complain when wealth taxes etc are implemented to cover the cost of saving their asses.

They definitely will show lots of gratitude to younger generations for all of this
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Lemoentjie wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:07 am If I know 1 thing about boomers, it is that they will definitely repay the sacrifices everyone else has made over the past year to keep them from dying.

They definitely won't complain when wealth taxes etc are implemented to cover the cost of saving their asses.

They definitely will show lots of gratitude to younger generations for all of this
Boomers aren’t pulling their weight here in Straya when it come to dying from COVID. The 80 and upwards echelon make up the biggest group by far, whereas the very oldest boomers have just turned 74 and the youngest, 56.

You do know ‘baby boomer’ doesn’t mean everyone a more than a few years older than you, right?
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MungoMan wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:08 am
Lemoentjie wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:07 am If I know 1 thing about boomers, it is that they will definitely repay the sacrifices everyone else has made over the past year to keep them from dying.

They definitely won't complain when wealth taxes etc are implemented to cover the cost of saving their asses.

They definitely will show lots of gratitude to younger generations for all of this
Boomers aren’t pulling their weight here in Straya when it come to dying from COVID. The 80 and upwards echelon make up the biggest group by far, whereas the very oldest boomers have just turned 74 and the youngest, 56.

You do know ‘baby boomer’ doesn’t mean everyone a more than a few years older than you, right?
Indeed. Baby boomers were originally the generation that were conceived when servicemen came back from WW2 weren’t they? It seems to include everyone born up to about the mid 60s now.
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Boomer Culture
Boomer culture is owning a cabinet of expensive China nobody can use then complaining about "wasting money on electronics"

This is the older people in my family! Mum has a bunch of old 'heirlooms' (none fancy and definitely not worth more than 'sentimental value' attributed to it by the person who gave it to her - I genuinely believe she doesn't have any emotional attachment to them beyond 'my mum says this belonged to ______'). And it's mad that she has a big credenza full of it and two more boxes in the basement, despite having downsized to a smaller house a few years ago.

Dad's versions is tools and 'junk'. I saw a great explanation for it on American Pickers: Depression generation (his parents) people who struggled 'collect' with the mindset that something could be 'useful' or re-sellable down the line. He and his older brother (who's a full-on hoarder) definitely got that from my grandfather. My dad is definitely not a hoarder, but has a tonne of things in his garage that haven't been touched since the move. On some occasions, a piece of steel or a random bolt comes in handy (he does some auto customization as a hobby), but unless he steps it up during his impending retirement, a lot of it will collect dust until he dies. ... my uncle is like those old grumps, if you've ever seen the show, who won't part with anything, thinking it's worth more than it really is or is looking for that future big-spender who's never going to come before he dies (which, sadly, could be in the next five years). Old farm machinery that is only worth its weight in scrap (but good money given how much there is) and unused property. He no longer farms, but has two 100 acre pieces doing nothing - the house on one actually caved in!

I was in another province when they moved, so couldn't help, but they're looking into one more move and will get at them to 'weed their collection' when that happens.


As hinted at above, millennials don't seem the type to buy good furniture. Ikea, thrift store, donations from when parents get an expensive new set. I don't think it's always about income either... I work with younger people on the same 'good money' I am but who hint they're 'struggling' with money to the point that they can't make the big life purchase (house, car, even that kids seem like a stretch). But they eat out a LOT, actually go places on their vacation time (abroad and short trips locally), have all the gadgets and streaming services, are often going "out".

Being Gen-X, I'm firmly in between these two mindsets.
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I think the 'millennials spend loads of money but can't buy houses' stuff comes from the fact (at least in the UK) that you by and large need a comparably huge deposit (15% generally) to buy a house. This gives people a feeling of futility IMHO.
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I’m slightly pre-boomer, and the depression years attitude rubbed off on me. I can’t stand waste.
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Paddington Bear wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:44 am I think the 'millennials spend loads of money but can't buy houses' stuff comes from the fact (at least in the UK) that you by and large need a comparably huge deposit (15% generally) to buy a house. This gives people a feeling of futility IMHO.
And a huge wage. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mylond ... 501418.amp lowest average here is 67k household wage to afford a mortgage and deposit of close to 50k if not more. Factor in rent prices being between 33% - 50% of salary and yeah to afford a house in the cheapest London borough you need a salary significantly above average and you need have had the salary for years with cost of living.

The biggest difference in culture is asset values have and continue to go up but salaries have not and continue not to. Culture wars sort themselves out if society sorts out the housing mess.
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Will be interesting to see if a rise in flexible/remote working ha an impact.

If people only have to be in the office say once a week, it give people the option to buy further away in more affordable areas. Appreciate this isn't an attractive option for everyone.
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Paddington Bear wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:14 am As a millennial, I'm seeing very few poor matches or ones that have big red flags over them. The marriages are by and large between people who have been dating for a long time and living together for at least a few years. People are taking it much more seriously than seemingly boomers did it.
I get a sense that in twenty odd years comedians of a certain age will make far fewer jokes about hating the wife.
Wait until the women hit menopause mid-forties and stop wanting to have sex while the men hit their peak earning potential and younger birds in Accounts start sniffing around. :wink:
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Paddington Bear wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:44 am I think the 'millennials spend loads of money but can't buy houses' stuff comes from the fact (at least in the UK) that you by and large need a comparably huge deposit (15% generally) to buy a house. This gives people a feeling of futility IMHO.
20% here.

In Oz, to get into a decent nursing home, I'd you have a property, you need to sell it to pay the bond.

I'm predicting a lot of sales in the next decade as families have to get rid of the trophy house to pay for the care.

Lots of motorhomes as well
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I like neeps wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:00 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:44 am I think the 'millennials spend loads of money but can't buy houses' stuff comes from the fact (at least in the UK) that you by and large need a comparably huge deposit (15% generally) to buy a house. This gives people a feeling of futility IMHO.
And a huge wage. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mylond ... 501418.amp lowest average here is 67k household wage to afford a mortgage and deposit of close to 50k if not more. Factor in rent prices being between 33% - 50% of salary and yeah to afford a house in the cheapest London borough you need a salary significantly above average and you need have had the salary for years with cost of living.

The biggest difference in culture is asset values have and continue to go up but salaries have not and continue not to. Culture wars sort themselves out if society sorts out the housing mess.
Yeah fully agree. I've worked in professional roles since graduating and save pretty diligently. Currently being screwed by said wage factor to buy anywhere half reasonable (I'll not be joining my mates who've spent £400k on one beds).

And your last point is I think true as well. People of my age were certainly sold a dream at school which just isn't realistic, as we're finding out now.
Margin__Walker wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:03 pm Will be interesting to see if a rise in flexible/remote working ha an impact.

If people only have to be in the office say once a week, it give people the option to buy further away in more affordable areas. Appreciate this isn't an attractive option for everyone.
A friend of a friend bought a four bed place in the Lake District for a song on this exact assumption, good luck to him.
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Sandstorm wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:04 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:14 am As a millennial, I'm seeing very few poor matches or ones that have big red flags over them. The marriages are by and large between people who have been dating for a long time and living together for at least a few years. People are taking it much more seriously than seemingly boomers did it.
I get a sense that in twenty odd years comedians of a certain age will make far fewer jokes about hating the wife.
Wait until the women hit menopause mid-forties and stop wanting to have sex while the men hit their peak earning potential and younger birds in Accounts start sniffing around. :wink:
Where do you get this from? This is when the overdrive kicks in for woman. Men are the ones who start going "numb" at that age.
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Paddington Bear wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:18 pm
Margin__Walker wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:03 pm Will be interesting to see if a rise in flexible/remote working ha an impact.

If people only have to be in the office say once a week, it give people the option to buy further away in more affordable areas. Appreciate this isn't an attractive option for everyone.
A friend of a friend bought a four bed place in the Lake District for a song on this exact assumption, good luck to him.
Yeah, I mention it, because I did the same this time last year. Travelling into the office once a week (and as it turns out only had to do that for a few months)

Works personally because we have family here, but it's really been a game changer on the quality of life front.
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Millenials :roll:


Only sane humans seems to be Gen-X'ers with their Gen-Z children.
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average joe wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:20 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:04 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:14 am As a millennial, I'm seeing very few poor matches or ones that have big red flags over them. The marriages are by and large between people who have been dating for a long time and living together for at least a few years. People are taking it much more seriously than seemingly boomers did it.
I get a sense that in twenty odd years comedians of a certain age will make far fewer jokes about hating the wife.
Wait until the women hit menopause mid-forties and stop wanting to have sex while the men hit their peak earning potential and younger birds in Accounts start sniffing around. :wink:
Where do you get this from? This is when the overdrive kicks in for woman. Men are the ones who start going "numb" at that age.
Women hit their peak at 30, not 45. Menopause equals dry vag, swollen legs and lack of sex drive.

If you personally are numb, AJ then I suggest you drink less and start jogging.
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monkey wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:56 pm https://youtu.be/Uo0KjdDJr1c


Millenials :roll:


Only sane humans seems to be Gen-X'ers with their Gen-Z children.
You know that's not real right
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Sandstorm wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:00 pm
average joe wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:20 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:04 pm

Wait until the women hit menopause mid-forties and stop wanting to have sex while the men hit their peak earning potential and younger birds in Accounts start sniffing around. :wink:
Where do you get this from? This is when the overdrive kicks in for woman. Men are the ones who start going "numb" at that age.
Women hit their peak at 30, not 45. Menopause equals dry vag, swollen legs and lack of sex drive.

If you personally are numb, AJ then I suggest you drink less and start jogging.
I might be dumb, definitely not numb. Strange, the wife hit 41 last year and it's like she can't get enough.
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Hugo wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:22 am One of the things I have observed is that boomers tend to like a drink. In contrast millenials seem to be more into coffee.

The legacy the boomers are leaving is an interesting one to consider - collectively they did not treat the nuclear family and marriage with the kind of reverence that prior generations did and I fear that has had far reaching consequences for society. Personally speaking both my wife and I's parents divorced and subsequently remarried and we see it as our parental duty to restore our families back to the traditional "till death do us part" type of marriage dynamic. In addition to the expected step parent challenges the eight grandparents thing is a bit of a mess if I'm being honest.


Swinging reached it's zenith in the Boomer generation.
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monkey wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:56 pm https://youtu.be/Uo0KjdDJr1c


Millenials :roll:


Only sane humans seems to be Gen-X'ers with their Gen-Z children.
Seems perfect for an organization's "Social Media Team".

On your last point, I know all of my friends with young ones are determined to raise them as they were raised (late 70s, early 80s babies, raised by parents whose parents went through the Great Depression). Tough love, earn things through chores and good behaviour, an appreciation for work and self-sufficiency, limited screen time + max outside time, etc.
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Niegs wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:25 am
Enzedder wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:20 am

Boomer Culture
Boomer culture is owning a cabinet of expensive China nobody can use then complaining about "wasting money on electronics"

This is the older people in my family! Mum has a bunch of old 'heirlooms' (none fancy and definitely not worth more than 'sentimental value' attributed to it by the person who gave it to her - I genuinely believe she doesn't have any emotional attachment to them beyond 'my mum says this belonged to ______'). And it's mad that she has a big credenza full of it and two more boxes in the basement, despite having downsized to a smaller house a few years ago.

Dad's versions is tools and 'junk'. I saw a great explanation for it on American Pickers: Depression generation (his parents) people who struggled 'collect' with the mindset that something could be 'useful' or re-sellable down the line. He and his older brother (who's a full-on hoarder) definitely got that from my grandfather. My dad is definitely not a hoarder, but has a tonne of things in his garage that haven't been touched since the move. On some occasions, a piece of steel or a random bolt comes in handy (he does some auto customization as a hobby), but unless he steps it up during his impending retirement, a lot of it will collect dust until he dies. ... my uncle is like those old grumps, if you've ever seen the show, who won't part with anything, thinking it's worth more than it really is or is looking for that future big-spender who's never going to come before he dies (which, sadly, could be in the next five years). Old farm machinery that is only worth its weight in scrap (but good money given how much there is) and unused property. He no longer farms, but has two 100 acre pieces doing nothing - the house on one actually caved in!

I was in another province when they moved, so couldn't help, but they're looking into one more move and will get at them to 'weed their collection' when that happens.


As hinted at above, millennials don't seem the type to buy good furniture. Ikea, thrift store, donations from when parents get an expensive new set. I don't think it's always about income either... I work with younger people on the same 'good money' I am but who hint they're 'struggling' with money to the point that they can't make the big life purchase (house, car, even that kids seem like a stretch). But they eat out a LOT, actually go places on their vacation time (abroad and short trips locally), have all the gadgets and streaming services, are often going "out".

Being Gen-X, I'm firmly in between these two mindsets.
Why do you feel compelled to encourage them to get rid of their stuff, Neig? Who is it harming?
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Ted. wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:12 pm

Why do you feel compelled to encourage them to get rid of their stuff, Neig? Who is it harming?
That's a fair point, it's no 'harm'. Maybe it's the millennial in me, but I don't see the point in keeping unused/non-sentimental that are just gathering dust. I get if you have something on display and it's decor, or a cherished heirloom to be passed down (most is not, and neither my bro nor I would want any more than one or two things... maybe his kids might be interested in the rest when they're older?).
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Niegs wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:53 pm
Ted. wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:12 pm

Why do you feel compelled to encourage them to get rid of their stuff, Neig? Who is it harming?
That's a fair point, it's no 'harm'. Maybe it's the millennial in me, but I don't see the point in keeping unused/non-sentimental that are just gathering dust. I get if you have something on display and it's decor, or a cherished heirloom to be passed down (most is not, and neither my bro nor I would want any more than one or two things... maybe his kids might be interested in the rest when they're older?).
If your father is a potterer or has a hobby, I can fully understand why he would want to keep stuff around. My father did so, as do I. I concede it's not something that can/should be done in a flat, though.
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