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Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:01 pm
by Lemoentjie


Nothing would make Genge drop the tough guy act like having to scrum against Beast :lol:

Loads of delicate poms in the replies

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:05 pm
by Torquemada 1420
The answer in regards sanction (at least from without) is nothing.

What that does signal to me is how much discipline is breaking down amongst Eng players. Not sure how TMO missed that but for me it's red. Yellow minimum.

As an aside, this is another example of why players should stay OFF social meejuh.

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:08 pm
by JM2K6
Why is it a red card? He doesn't strike the twat, just rubs his forearm on him. It'd be a yellow, though, and very poor discipline.

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:09 pm
by Lemoentjie
Genge responds:



Making as if Beast wouldn't destroy him in any physical confrontation :lol:

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:10 pm
by Lemoentjie
JM2K6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:08 pm Why is it a red card? He doesn't strike the twat, just rubs his forearm on him. It'd be a yellow, though, and very poor discipline.
'Rubs his forearm'

He pushes his elbow into his face

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:11 pm
by Lemoentjie
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:05 pm The answer in regards sanction (at least from without) is nothing.

What that does signal to me is how much discipline is breaking down amongst Eng players. Not sure how TMO missed that but for me it's red. Yellow minimum.

As an aside, this is another example of why players should stay OFF social meejuh.
England have never really recovered from 2019 RWC final. It broke them, I guess it can be hard to get confidence back after being destroyed physically and tactically.

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:14 pm
by JM2K6
Lemoentjie wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:10 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:08 pm Why is it a red card? He doesn't strike the twat, just rubs his forearm on him. It'd be a yellow, though, and very poor discipline.
'Rubs his forearm'

He pushes his elbow into his face
Nah. He's rubbing his forearm in his face. Hence no citing.

Saffers don't get to complain about shithousery, given you guys are number one for this sort of niggly nonsense, and "Beast" looks a right twat for threatening someone on Twitter, the big jessie.

Genge is a dickhead but no one comes out of that spat smelling like roses.

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:17 pm
by tc27
Saffers beat us comfortably in the RWC final yet we are still apparently living rent free in their heads?

Hopefully the Boks can get back to playing games so they can move on.

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:22 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Vok me. There is nothing in it. Look like Beast are struggling being a retired player.

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:24 pm
by Lemoentjie
Attacking a man who can't defend himself makes you a massive kunt

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:26 pm
by assfly
Bit of a nothing story if you ask me.

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:28 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Lemoentjie wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:24 pm Attacking a man who can't defend himself makes you a massive kunt
Playing attacking rugby is great. Its part of the sport. Next time he'll be on the receiving end. Maybe Corne Krige should have a talk with Beast.

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:34 pm
by sockwithaticket
Not sure why Beast felt the need to get involved and anyone who was in a team with Bakkies Botha, but never called him out, should probably keep schtum about the cheap shots of other players.

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:36 pm
by Torquemada 1420
JM2K6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:08 pm Why is it a red card? He doesn't strike the twat, just rubs his forearm on him. It'd be a yellow, though, and very poor discipline.
It's not a good gif but isn't all that contact to the neck/face? In which case that's almost always a red these days.

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:42 pm
by Margin__Walker
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:36 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:08 pm Why is it a red card? He doesn't strike the twat, just rubs his forearm on him. It'd be a yellow, though, and very poor discipline.
It's not a good gif but isn't all that contact to the neck/face? In which case that's almost always a red these days.
I don't think there's a law in the law book that specifies that rubbing your forearm in a player's face is a red. Happy to be corrected.

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:43 pm
by JM2K6
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:36 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:08 pm Why is it a red card? He doesn't strike the twat, just rubs his forearm on him. It'd be a yellow, though, and very poor discipline.
It's not a good gif but isn't all that contact to the neck/face? In which case that's almost always a red these days.
Nah, they normally talk about a strike if it's not a tackle. It's very, very, very rare to get a red for this sort of thing.

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:07 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Margin__Walker wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:42 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:36 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:08 pm Why is it a red card? He doesn't strike the twat, just rubs his forearm on him. It'd be a yellow, though, and very poor discipline.
It's not a good gif but isn't all that contact to the neck/face? In which case that's almost always a red these days.
I don't think there's a law in the law book that specifies that rubbing your forearm in a player's face is a red. Happy to be corrected.
There isn't a Law stating that sticking your finger up your opponent's arse is a red. What's your point?

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:11 pm
by Margin__Walker
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:07 pm
Margin__Walker wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:42 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:36 pm

It's not a good gif but isn't all that contact to the neck/face? In which case that's almost always a red these days.
I don't think there's a law in the law book that specifies that rubbing your forearm in a player's face is a red. Happy to be corrected.
There isn't a Law stating that sticking your finger up your opponent's arse is a red. What's your point?
My point is that unseemly as it is. Reds for physical acts are generally handed out for offenses with a high degree of danger.

Something that's not the case here.

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:14 pm
by SaintK
assfly wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:26 pm Bit of a nothing story if you ask me.
Yep, but obviously not to your fellow countryman who wants to act like a shit stirring twat

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:17 pm
by Biffer
JM2K6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:14 pm
Lemoentjie wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:10 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:08 pm Why is it a red card? He doesn't strike the twat, just rubs his forearm on him. It'd be a yellow, though, and very poor discipline.
'Rubs his forearm'

He pushes his elbow into his face
Nah. He's rubbing his forearm in his face. Hence no citing.

Saffers don't get to complain about shithousery, given you guys are number one for this sort of niggly nonsense, and "Beast" looks a right twat for threatening someone on Twitter, the big jessie.

Genge is a dickhead but no one comes out of that spat smelling like roses.
Contact with the eye area.

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:18 pm
by JM2K6
Biffer wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:17 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:14 pm
Lemoentjie wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:10 pm

'Rubs his forearm'

He pushes his elbow into his face
Nah. He's rubbing his forearm in his face. Hence no citing.

Saffers don't get to complain about shithousery, given you guys are number one for this sort of niggly nonsense, and "Beast" looks a right twat for threatening someone on Twitter, the big jessie.

Genge is a dickhead but no one comes out of that spat smelling like roses.
Contact with the eye area.
Cripes, you must have better eyesight than me then.

No hands near the eyes, though, which is what that law is about.

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:27 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Margin__Walker wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:11 pm My point is that unseemly as it is. Reds for physical acts are generally handed out for offenses with a high degree of danger.

Something that's not the case here.
Maybe. This is repeated (so meditated), to the face area against an opponent unable to defend himself on the floor.

My reaction, had that been Haouas, would have been "you f**king moron, you just got yourself sent off".

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:29 pm
by Torquemada 1420
JM2K6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:18 pm Cripes, you must have better eyesight than me then.

No hands near the eyes, though, which is what that law is about.
There is no contact with the eyes. "Contact to the eye area" is not the only law which can result in red..

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:34 pm
by Margin__Walker
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:27 pm
Margin__Walker wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:11 pm My point is that unseemly as it is. Reds for physical acts are generally handed out for offenses with a high degree of danger.

Something that's not the case here.
Maybe. This is repeated (so meditated), to the face area against an opponent unable to defend himself on the floor.

My reaction, had that been Haouas, would have been "you f**king moron, you just got yourself sent off".
Well I think we can all agree that Genge is a moron, prone to doing something stupid whenever he's held in at the ruck. Albeit you give him too much credit on the meditated. He doesn't seem to think particularly hard about anything.

That doesn't make it a red card offence though.

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:08 pm
by JM2K6
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:29 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:18 pm Cripes, you must have better eyesight than me then.

No hands near the eyes, though, which is what that law is about.
There is no contact with the eyes. "Contact to the eye area" is not the only law which can result in red..
Thanks but I was replying to someone who was talking about that law so hey

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:23 pm
by SaintK
Margin__Walker wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:34 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:27 pm
Margin__Walker wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:11 pm My point is that unseemly as it is. Reds for physical acts are generally handed out for offenses with a high degree of danger.

Something that's not the case here.
Maybe. This is repeated (so meditated), to the face area against an opponent unable to defend himself on the floor.

My reaction, had that been Haouas, would have been "you f**king moron, you just got yourself sent off".
Well I think we can all agree that Genge is a moron, prone to doing something stupid whenever he's held in at the ruck. Albeit you give him too much credit on the meditated. He doesn't seem to think particularly hard about anything.

That doesn't make it a red card offence though.
................not forgetting that the Citing Officer who would have seen the incident from all available angles didn't report it for disciplinary action!

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:23 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Margin__Walker wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:34 pm Well I think we can all agree that Genge is a moron, prone to doing something stupid whenever he's held in at the ruck. Albeit you give him too much credit on the meditated. He doesn't seem to think particularly hard about anything.

That doesn't make it a red card offence though.
You may be right on the card. If I were the ntl coach, he'd be gone. Too many headcases in the Eng side already.

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:24 pm
by Torquemada 1420
SaintK wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:23 pm ................not forgetting that the Citing Officer who would have seen the incident from all available angles didn't report it for disciplinary action!
I know. I saw that in the Torygraph. But you can only cite for red level offences which means he got away with his idiocy so expect to see it again at a cinema near you.

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:28 pm
by Margin__Walker
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:23 pm
Margin__Walker wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:34 pm Well I think we can all agree that Genge is a moron, prone to doing something stupid whenever he's held in at the ruck. Albeit you give him too much credit on the meditated. He doesn't seem to think particularly hard about anything.

That doesn't make it a red card offence though.
You may be right on the card. If I were the ntl coach, he'd be gone. Too many headcases in the Eng side already.
Yeah agree. For the moment anyway. He's not good enough to justify carrying his aggro

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:56 pm
by Sandstorm
It's Sexton. Genge should get the Key to the City.

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:58 pm
by Chilli
Beast should maybe not get involved.

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:16 pm
by shaggy
What triggered it? There was something more than just being held in? A bite?

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:18 pm
by Margin__Walker
shaggy wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:16 pm What triggered it? There was something more than just being held in? A bite?
Nah, just being held in. It's the second time he's lost it at some minor shithousery this 6N.

He's such an easy mark for the opposition.

Must admit to smiling a bit when Sexton was complaining to the ref about it and Genge told him that 'Grandad was holding me in' or something to that effect.

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:36 pm
by Paddington Bear
South African rugby criticising cheap shots. What a world we live in

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:43 pm
by Sandstorm
Paddington Bear wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:36 pm South African rugby criticising cheap shots. What a world we live in
He’s a Zimbo. Angels.

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 6:05 am
by average joe
Nothing in it. The backs always came complaining to me "no8 roughed me up, the hooker grabbed my balls". My reply was always the same" don't worry boet, I'll get him for you at the next ruck"

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:35 am
by assfly
SaintK wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:14 pm Yep, but obviously not to your fellow countryman who wants to act like a shit stirring twat
It's Twitter ffs. Every second person is a shit-stirring twat.

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:52 am
by SaintK
assfly wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:35 am
SaintK wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:14 pm Yep, but obviously not to your fellow countryman who wants to act like a shit stirring twat
It's Twitter ffs. Every second person is a shit-stirring twat.
Was referring to the twat who posted it and his subsequent comments not the Beast's Twitter feed.

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:53 am
by assfly
SaintK wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:52 am Was referring to the twat who posted it and his subsequent comments not the Beast's Twitter feed.
Ah I see.

But my point on Twitter still stands. Bloody awful place.

Re: Beast calls out Ellis Genge

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:55 am
by SaintK
assfly wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:53 am
SaintK wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:52 am Was referring to the twat who posted it and his subsequent comments not the Beast's Twitter feed.
Ah I see.

But my point on Twitter still stands. Bloody awful place.
Agree completely!!