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Really....

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:06 pm
by BnM

Re: Really....

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:22 pm
by Saint
And the UN wonders why it sometimes has credibility issues

Re: Really....

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:58 pm
by BnM
It will be in return for something from Iran. It's just women innit.

Re: Really....

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:01 pm
by Saint
Marylandolorian wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:37 pm
Saint wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:22 pm And the UN wonders why it sometimes has credibility issues

The UN - WHO- IOC - FIFA same all same all

Though the ballot was secret, UN Watch has determined that at least four of the 15 EU and Western Group democracies on ECOSOC—which include Australia, Austria, Canada, Finland, France, Latvia, Germany, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Switzerland, the United Kingdom, and the United States—voted for Iran.

Who :think:
and why?
I would put money on Germany, France, and Switzerland. Not sure on number 4

Re: Really....

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:13 pm
by BnM
Marylandolorian wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:08 pm
BnM wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:58 pm It will be in return for something from Iran. It's just women innit.
Yeah, this was my question, why do we need a Commission on Women’s Rights, anyway ? :spin
Dammit been wanting to use that one and missed the opportunity.

Re: Really....

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:42 pm
by BnM
Is a non-starter... really....

Re: Really....

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:54 pm
by Sandstorm
Iran actually treat their women rather well. Are you not perhaps mixing them up with several of their neighbours?

Re: Really....

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:59 pm
by Saint
Sandstorm wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:54 pm Iran actually treat their women rather well. Are you not perhaps mixing them up with several of their neighbours?
Relative to Saudi, sure.

Re: Really....

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:06 pm
by Sandstorm
Saint wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:59 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:54 pm Iran actually treat their women rather well. Are you not perhaps mixing them up with several of their neighbours?
Relative to Saudi, sure.
And Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Pakistan and Yemen. Oman, UAE, Qatar, Jordan and Kuwait.

If the UN is looking to improve Women’s Rights in that region of male fuckwits, there’s no better place to pick a good role model than in Tehran.

Re: Really....

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:07 pm
by BnM
Sandstorm wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:54 pm Iran actually treat their women rather well. Are you not perhaps mixing them up with several of their neighbours?
Errr...
"Thare no laws that penalize or prevent the dismissal of pregnant women from work, nor are there laws that provide rights for paternity or parental leave or tax-deductible payments for childcare. The Iranian Civil Code confers power on a husband to prevent his wife from taking any job found to be incompatible with the family interest or the dignity of the husband or his wife. Women have no legal protection against domestic violence or sexual harassment by anyone, and the constitution has no non-discrimination clause with gender as a protected category.

According to some reports, hundreds of Iranian women are killed each year in honor killings.[119] A 2019 report concluded that "nearly 30 percent of all murder cases in Iran were honor killings of women and girls."[

In 2019 three women arrested for "disrespecting compulsory hijab" were sentenced to a total of 55 years and six months by a "Revolutionary Court" in Iran
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_rights_in_Iran

Re: Really....

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:10 pm
by Saint
Sandstorm wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:06 pm
Saint wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:59 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:54 pm Iran actually treat their women rather well. Are you not perhaps mixing them up with several of their neighbours?
Relative to Saudi, sure.
And Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Pakistan and Yemen. Oman, UAE, Qatar, Jordan and Kuwait.

If the UN is looking to improve Women’s Rights in that region of male fuckwits, there’s no better place to pick a good role model than in Tehran.
If you're looking to just level up in region, then fine. I would personally pick a higher target than that - this is a body that's supposed to represent the world, not just level down to the lowest common denominator and work up from there

Re: Really....

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:11 pm
by Sandstorm
Saint wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:10 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:06 pm
Saint wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:59 pm

Relative to Saudi, sure.
And Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Pakistan and Yemen. Oman, UAE, Qatar, Jordan and Kuwait.

If the UN is looking to improve Women’s Rights in that region of male fuckwits, there’s no better place to pick a good role model than in Tehran.
If you're looking to just level up in region, then fine. I would personally pick a higher target than that - this is a body that's supposed to represent the world, not just level down to the lowest common denominator and work up from there
No argument here

Re: Really....

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:12 pm
by Saint
I would also add that for a country like Iran, this type of level of UN membership is far more about Realpolitik than it is about actually doing something worthwhile to achieve the theoretical goals of this commission.

Re: Really....

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:17 pm
by Sandstorm
Saint wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:12 pm I would also add that for a country like Iran, this type of level of UN membership is far more about Realpolitik than it is about actually doing something worthwhile to achieve the theoretical goals of this commission.
Again I agree with you

Re: Really....

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:39 pm
by Saint
Sandstorm wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:17 pm
Saint wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:12 pm I would also add that for a country like Iran, this type of level of UN membership is far more about Realpolitik than it is about actually doing something worthwhile to achieve the theoretical goals of this commission.
Again I agree with you
I know this is NPR rather than planetrugby, but I am feeling very confused right now. Far too much agreement

Re: Really....

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:45 pm
by Slick
Sandstorm wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:54 pm Iran actually treat their women rather well. Are you not perhaps mixing them up with several of their neighbours?
No they don’t. Amongst individuals in some of the big urban areas it is better but as a state they treat them like shit and out of the cities it’s also shit

Re: Really....

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:50 am
by Muttonbird
UN Watch, eh? They seem like a front for Israeli interests.

Israel itself is dedicated to keeping Iran outside the global community. They are terrified of normalised relations between Iran and the rest of the world which is why they undermine every action intended to achieve that outcome.

This one is no different. Surely the best way to haul Iran and its theological rulers into the 21st century is to include them. Not Israeli policy though, is it, and therefore not UN Watch's policy either.

Re: Really....

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:26 am
by FalseBayFC
Muttonbird wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:50 am UN Watch, eh? They seem like a front for Israeli interests.

Israel itself is dedicated to keeping Iran outside the global community. They are terrified of normalised relations between Iran and the rest of the world which is why they undermine every action intended to achieve that outcome.

This one is no different. Surely the best way to haul Iran and its theological rulers into the 21st century is to include them. Not Israeli policy though, is it, and therefore not UN Watch's policy either.
Good post. The ruling class in Iran are a bunch of mediaeval dickheads but the population as a whole has always given me the impression of being open to progressive ideas and hungry for change.

By cutting them off you allow the mullahs to strengthen their grip on power. This appointment may force them to face and deal with ideas that challenge the status quo.

Re: Really....

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:15 am
by JM2K6
Saint wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:39 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:17 pm
Saint wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:12 pm I would also add that for a country like Iran, this type of level of UN membership is far more about Realpolitik than it is about actually doing something worthwhile to achieve the theoretical goals of this commission.
Again I agree with you
I know this is NPR rather than planetrugby, but I am feeling very confused right now. Far too much agreement
If you like I can start yelling at you for using the phrase "level up"

Re: Really....

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:33 am
by sturginho
Saint wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:39 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:17 pm
Saint wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:12 pm I would also add that for a country like Iran, this type of level of UN membership is far more about Realpolitik than it is about actually doing something worthwhile to achieve the theoretical goals of this commission.
Again I agree with you
I know this is NPR rather than planetrugby, but I am feeling very confused right now. Far too much agreement
I disagree

Re: Really....

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:34 am
by Saint
:lol:

Re: Really....

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:38 am
by Line6 HXFX
I mean women in the UK have it all, jobs, career, kids, the freedom to do anything they like.

Unless they are socialist, or want to protest anything of any significance. Then the very least that will happen to them is they will have a undercover copper trying to impregnate them.

Re: Really....

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:42 pm
by Sandstorm
Line6 HXFX wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:38 am I mean women in the UK have it all, jobs, career, kids, the freedom to do anything they like.

Unless they are socialist, or want to protest anything of any significance. Then the very least that will happen to them is they will have a undercover copper trying to impregnate them.
I thought you were against people taking drugs.

Re: Really....

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:16 am
by Line6 HXFX
Sandstorm wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:42 pm
Line6 HXFX wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:38 am I mean women in the UK have it all, jobs, career, kids, the freedom to do anything they like.

Unless they are socialist, or want to protest anything of any significance. Then the very least that will happen to them is they will have a undercover copper trying to impregnate them.
I thought you were against people taking drugs.
Nah, just stalking weirdo twats,
I actually (having worked for substance misuse for 5 years) started to question everything.
Not that I do drugs, way too much real world, up at 5 in the morning responsibilities, just that if you can get all the pleasure in the world out if a 3 quid tablet..and just gnore all the judgmental wankers (WHO WOULD HATE YOU ANYWAY) why the fuck wouldn't you?

Re: Really....

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:27 pm
by BnM
Fucking creep