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Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:45 pm
by Blackmac
Right, assuming things stay the same with Lowry sitting at 9, who gets the Captain's picks.

For me Poulter and Garcia are shoe ins and are showing decent enough form. Rose has no form at all nor does Peres. Bob McIntyre doesn't deserve it given his ridiculous schedule. For me I would be happy to see Rasmus Hoejgaard get the call, ridiculously going player.

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 11:02 am
by Biffer
Blackmac wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:45 pm Right, assuming things stay the same with Lowry sitting at 9, who gets the Captain's picks.

For me Poulter and Garcia are shoe ins and are showing decent enough form. Rose has no form at all nor does Peres. Bob McIntyre doesn't deserve it given his ridiculous schedule. For me I would be happy to see Rasmus Hoejgaard get the call, ridiculously going player.
Not sure where you're getting ridiculous schedule from for MacIntyre? He's only played one more tournament than Hojgaard so far as I can tell. You're right about Poulter I think and I reckon there'll be one spot for either Rose or Garcia, plus one for a younger guy like the two you mentioned, Perez, or maybe even Calum Hill. I think if any of them win the PGA championship this weekend they go straight into the automatic spots.

I have a bit of a fear however that Harrington will do an old boys club thing.

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 12:26 pm
by Big D
Biffer wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 11:02 am
Blackmac wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:45 pm Right, assuming things stay the same with Lowry sitting at 9, who gets the Captain's picks.

For me Poulter and Garcia are shoe ins and are showing decent enough form. Rose has no form at all nor does Peres. Bob McIntyre doesn't deserve it given his ridiculous schedule. For me I would be happy to see Rasmus Hoejgaard get the call, ridiculously going player.
Not sure where you're getting ridiculous schedule from for MacIntyre? He's only played one more tournament than Hojgaard so far as I can tell. You're right about Poulter I think and I reckon there'll be one spot for either Rose or Garcia, plus one for a younger guy like the two you mentioned, Perez, or maybe even Calum Hill. I think if any of them win the PGA championship this weekend they go straight into the automatic spots.

I have a bit of a fear however that Harrington will do an old boys club thing.
Deciding to play the Korn Ferry tour championships rather than potentially pick up points in Italy or the previous week wasn't a good look IMO.

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 12:39 pm
by Big D
Blackmac wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:45 pm Right, assuming things stay the same with Lowry sitting at 9, who gets the Captain's picks.

For me Poulter and Garcia are shoe ins and are showing decent enough form. Rose has no form at all nor does Peres. Bob McIntyre doesn't deserve it given his ridiculous schedule. For me I would be happy to see Rasmus Hoejgaard get the call, ridiculously going player.
Garcia has been given the nod already, that's the only sensible explanation for not teeing up this week. Poulter probably has done enough too.

Hoejgaard is certainly the hot hand at the moment.

I think this week will tell a lot, MacIntyre still should have some credit for his decent showing earlier in the year in the majors where he seems to do well. He isn't scared of anyone. I think if he gets a top 10 there is still a chance for him and he has been getting experience in the states. However, if he doesn't make it there will be other Ryder Cups for him.
Perez might have credit in the bank for his matchplay run earlier in the season if he does ok this week too.

Wouldn't take Rose or Weisberger, and wouldn't take Stenson even though he has been better lately it isn't enough. Migliozzi has been hanging about the tail end of the top 10-15 in the points rankings all season too.

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:50 pm
by sturginho
Won't be the same without Fleetwood and Molinari together

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 2:06 pm
by Blackmac
Big D wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 12:26 pm
Biffer wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 11:02 am
Blackmac wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:45 pm Right, assuming things stay the same with Lowry sitting at 9, who gets the Captain's picks.

For me Poulter and Garcia are shoe ins and are showing decent enough form. Rose has no form at all nor does Peres. Bob McIntyre doesn't deserve it given his ridiculous schedule. For me I would be happy to see Rasmus Hoejgaard get the call, ridiculously going player.
Not sure where you're getting ridiculous schedule from for MacIntyre? He's only played one more tournament than Hojgaard so far as I can tell. You're right about Poulter I think and I reckon there'll be one spot for either Rose or Garcia, plus one for a younger guy like the two you mentioned, Perez, or maybe even Calum Hill. I think if any of them win the PGA championship this weekend they go straight into the automatic spots.

I have a bit of a fear however that Harrington will do an old boys club thing.
Deciding to play the Korn Ferry tour championships rather than potentially pick up points in Italy or the previous week wasn't a good look IMO.
That's exactly what I mean. Barely played a European tour event in months. I think he is being badly advised and is trying to run before he can walk. Some good results so far but needs to establish himself as a regular winner on the European tour first before chasing the big bucks in the US.

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 2:11 pm
by Blackmac
Most of the Ryder Cup lads spending a lot of time in the woods and bunkers so far, which isn't very encouraging. Westwood has just failed to get over a 190 yard tee shot carry with a 3 wood.

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 2:55 pm
by Biffer
Blackmac wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 2:06 pm
Big D wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 12:26 pm
Biffer wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 11:02 am

Not sure where you're getting ridiculous schedule from for MacIntyre? He's only played one more tournament than Hojgaard so far as I can tell. You're right about Poulter I think and I reckon there'll be one spot for either Rose or Garcia, plus one for a younger guy like the two you mentioned, Perez, or maybe even Calum Hill. I think if any of them win the PGA championship this weekend they go straight into the automatic spots.

I have a bit of a fear however that Harrington will do an old boys club thing.
Deciding to play the Korn Ferry tour championships rather than potentially pick up points in Italy or the previous week wasn't a good look IMO.
That's exactly what I mean. Barely played a European tour event in months. I think he is being badly advised and is trying to run before he can walk. Some good results so far but needs to establish himself as a regular winner on the European tour first before chasing the big bucks in the US.
So far as I can tell he only played 4 events in the US that aren't also European Tour events? Got to remember he went to college over there as well so is probably a bit drawn to playing more than others might. He's played 12 PGA Tour events this year - four of them are the majors, 3 are the WGC events, plus the Players Championship. I don't think there's a single European player who wouldn't take those invitations up if they were offered. He played the Arnold Palmer Invitation in the week in between the WGC and the Players Championship, and he played the RBC Heritage the week after the Masters. I'll give you the Wyndham, that was a bad choice. But so far as I can tell he hasn't played in the last three weeks - no idea why.

Edit - just looked at the Korn Ferry and he's not listed as having played?
https://www.pgatour.com/korn-ferry-tour ... board.html

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:48 pm
by Biffer
Better round for MacIntyre today, but looking likely to miss the cut. Hojgaard had a mare yesterday (+9) so no chance of playing the weekend. Nobody making Harrington choices for him it seems.

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:57 pm
by Biffer
I’ll just point out here that I said in April on the golf thread that Garcia and Lowry would get captains picks.

I won’t highlight who vehemently disagreed with me :grin:

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:06 am
by Openside
Biffer wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:57 pm I’ll just point out here that I said in April on the golf thread that Garcia and Lowry would get captains picks.

I won’t highlight who vehemently disagreed with me :grin:
I would have picked Rose over Poulter

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:54 am
by sturginho
Openside wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:06 am
Biffer wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:57 pm I’ll just point out here that I said in April on the golf thread that Garcia and Lowry would get captains picks.

I won’t highlight who vehemently disagreed with me :grin:
I would have picked Rose over Poulter
As usual, if they win he's a genius, if they lose he's a moron for picking the old boys

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:14 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
I’ve been very childish reading about the course the US are setting up and Poulter admitting “he’s not as long as others in the team but it just comes down to being able to stick it into the hole”.

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:16 pm
by Blackmac
Biffer wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:57 pm I’ll just point out here that I said in April on the golf thread that Garcia and Lowry would get captains picks.

I won’t highlight who vehemently disagreed with me :grin:
In April you were wrong and I'm quite happy to stick with that ascertion, because at the time it was correct. Lowry's form over the previous year and half had been abysmal, and despite being a major champion, Harrington would have really struggled to justify the pick. His form since then has been excellent and he has clearly been desperate to qualify, so things have changed dramatically in his favour and im delighted for him.

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 2:30 pm
by Biffer
I said Garcia and Lowry would get Captains picks. I was right. Retcon all you like.

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:35 am
by Blackmac
Biffer wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 2:30 pm I said Garcia and Lowry would get Captains picks. I was right. Retcon all you like.
😂😂 Nah, you are at it mate. If you had predicted that Lowry would hit a superb run of form to make the team, then you would have deserved plaudits. However, predicting, in April, that a horrifically out of form and historically inconsistent Lowry deserved a captain's pick had no golfing credibility at all unless you were basing it on the fact he is Irish and Harrington's drinking mate.

To be honest all of us predicting picks that far in advance were shooting in the dark.

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:37 am
by Biffer
Blackmac wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:35 am
Biffer wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 2:30 pm I said Garcia and Lowry would get Captains picks. I was right. Retcon all you like.
😂😂 Nah, you are at it mate. If you had predicted that Lowry would hit a superb run of form to make the team, then you would have deserved plaudits. However, predicting, in April, that a horrifically out of form and historically inconsistent Lowry deserved a captain's pick had no golfing credibility at all unless you were basing it on the fact he is Irish and Harrington's drinking mate.

To be honest all of us predicting picks that far in advance were shooting in the dark.
I stick by my prescience :lol:

Bookies don’t care if you were lucky.

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:11 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
This crowd is going to wear a little thin after three days. Garcia with a wobbler into the bunker. Thomas straight down the middle.

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:15 pm
by Biffer
Yeah, but it’ll turn very easily. They always do in the US, they don’t really understand the whole national team support thing. Mainly because they hardly play team sport against anyone else at anything that’s got any profile - this is the biggest team event that the USA plays in any sport.

Is it just me or does this course look very links-y?

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:16 pm
by Biffer
Garcia half an inch away from shutting them up there😂

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:27 pm
by Slick
Is any of this, even crap highlights being shown on BBC etc?

I missed the NOWTV £9.99 offer and not paying the full whack

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:30 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
Biffer wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:16 pm Garcia half an inch away from shutting them up there😂
Was a cracking attempt. Got away with a half on that. Morikawa couldn’t have made that any harder with his tee shot. Rahm had a very tough shot there and leaves it short of the green.

And Johnson plays a beauty to put that in the green.

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:31 pm
by Grandpa
You're missing beautiful shots of the lake and some nervy golf....

Knife edge already...

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:34 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
USA 1 up in each of the opening matches.

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:35 pm
by Grandpa
We need the wind to get up...

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:37 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
And Hovland goes lefter than a one armed Jeremy Corbyn.

It’s a lovely looking course.

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:39 pm
by Biffer
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:37 pm And Hovland goes lefter than a one armed Jeremy Corbyn.

It’s a lovely looking course.
Yeah, beautiful. A long way from a typical US course. Shades of Pebble Beach.

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:07 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
Rahm sends his ball for a swim.

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:13 pm
by Biffer
Is Koepka wearing a hoodie?

Would be kicked off most courses for that round here.

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:37 pm
by Grandpa
Biffer wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:13 pm Is Koepka wearing a hoodie?

Would be kicked off most courses for that round here.
So is Spieth... actually it may be their uniform... :grin:

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:47 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
Putts are going the way of the merkins. It’s only a matter of time before McIlroy gets his customary under pressure yips and hands his match over with little more than a whimper and a walk like a mildly frustrated chicken.

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:17 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
When his confidence is up Garcia has a beautiful touch around the greens.

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:24 pm
by Grandpa
Sergio is a magician as you say.. his short game.

Rory looks bereft of confidence.

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:45 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
And Poulter badly badly misses a putt from within 6 feet.

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:49 pm
by Biffer
Grandpa wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:24 pm Sergio is a magician as you say.. his short game.

Rory looks bereft of confidence.
He just topped it 270 yards.🤣

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:57 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
Biffer wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:49 pm
Grandpa wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:24 pm Sergio is a magician as you say.. his short game.

Rory looks bereft of confidence.
He just topped it 270 yards.🤣
And stood there laughing like it was a knock around with a few mates on a public course.

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:58 pm
by Grandpa
Hysterical laughter...

I wonder if Rory will be playing this afternoon?

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:01 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
Grandpa wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:58 pm Hysterical laughter...

I wonder if Rory will be playing this afternoon?
He’s not really been playing much this morning either.

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:13 pm
by Biffer
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:57 pm
Biffer wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:49 pm
Grandpa wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:24 pm Sergio is a magician as you say.. his short game.

Rory looks bereft of confidence.
He just topped it 270 yards.🤣
And stood there laughing like it was a knock around with a few mates on a public course.
I always think that’s a good way to get in their heads. Chummy, have a laugh, then when it matters, make them knock in a two footer for a half.

Did Faldo not do that once, was all chat and jokes on the first tee and it was so unlike him it freaked the Americans out?

Re: Ryder Cup 2021

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:13 pm
by Grandpa
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:01 pm
Grandpa wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:58 pm Hysterical laughter...

I wonder if Rory will be playing this afternoon?
He’s not really been playing much this morning either.
Boom tish...!

To think Fleetwood and Lowry are twiddling their thumbs..