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Not Italy Again
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:12 am
by sturginho
Yes it's us again
Who:
vs
Where:
When: Sunday 13th Feb 3pm - ITV
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:15 am
by sturginho
Teams for the u20s (Friday at 7pm)
Italy:
15 MEY Francois Carlo (HBS Colorno)
14 PANI Lorenzo (Benetton Rugby Treviso Srl)
13 PASSARELLA Dewi (Ruggers Tarvisium)
12 FUSARI Arturo (Fiamme Oro Rugby)
11 LAZZARIN Filippo (Petrarca Rugby)
10 TENEGGI Nicolò (Valorugby Emilia)
9 GARBISI Alessandro (Mogliano Rugby 1969 Ssd Arl)
8 FERRARI Giacomo (C) (Unione Rugby Capitolina)
7 BERLESE Carlos (Ruggers Tarvisium Asd)
6 ODIASE David (HBS Colorno)
5 ANDREOLI Riccardo (FEMI-CZ Rovigo)
4 ORTOMBINA Alessandro (Valorugby Emilia)
3 GENOVESE Riccardo (Cus Torino)
2 FRANGINI Lapo (Accademia Nazionale Ivan Francescato)
1 RIZZOLI Luca (Unione Rugby Capitolina)
A disposizione:
16 SCRAMONCIN Tommaso (Petrarca Rugby)
17 BIZZOTTO Valerio (Rugby Bassano 1976)
18 BERNARDINELLO Matteo (Petrarca Rugby)
19 RUBINATO Matteo (Benetton Rugby)
20 CENEDESE Giovanni (Villorba Rugby)
21 TOMASELLI Gianluca (G.S. Fiamme Oro Rugby Roma)
22 SANTE Giovanni (Mogliano Rugby 1969)
23 FORONCELLI Paul Marie (Rangers Vicenza)
England:
15. George Hendy (Northampton Saints, Caps 1)
14. Deago Bailey (Bristol Bears, Caps 4)
13. Tom Litchfield (Northampton Saints, Caps 3)
12. Ethan Grayson (Northampton Saints, Caps 1)
11. Francis Moore (Saracens, Caps 0)
10. Jamie Benson (Harlequins, Caps 1)
9. Matty Jones (Gloucester Rugby, Caps 1)
1. Fin Baxter (Harlequins, Caps 2) – Capitano
2. John Stewart (Bath Rugby, Caps 2)
3. Mikey Summerfield (London Irish, Caps 1)
4. Alfie Bell (Wasps, Caps 1)
5. Tom Lockett (Northampton Saints, Caps 1)
6. Alex Wardell (Saracens, Caps 1)
7. Toby Knight (Saracens, Caps 1)
8. Emeka Ilione (Leicester Tigers, Caps 2)
A disposizione:
16. Finn Theobald-Thomas (Worcester Warriors, Caps 0)
17. Mark Dormer (Newcastle, Caps 1)
18. Will Hobson (Harlequins, Caps 1)
19. Charlie Rice (Bristol Bears, Caps 1)
20. Greg Fisilau (Wasps, Caps 1)
21. Sam Edwards (Leicester Tigers, Caps 0)
22. Louie Johnson (Newcastle Falcons, Caps 1)
23. Ollie Dawkins (Wasps, Caps 1)
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:32 am
by Kawazaki
Subs are called 'disposables' in Italian?
Still better than finishers.
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:37 am
by sturginho
"a disposizione" just means "available"
If you like I can change it to "finishers" in keeping with the silly lingo that seems to have permeated the sport recently
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:54 am
by Lobby
Kawazaki wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:32 am
Subs are called 'disposables' in Italian?
Still better than finishers.
Eddie treats the whole team (and especially the Wasps players) as disposable, so its probably more appropriate than 'finishers'
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:02 am
by Lobby
sturginho wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:15 am
Teams for the u20s (Friday at 7pm)
Italy:
15 MEY Francois Carlo (HBS Colorno)
14 PANI Lorenzo (Benetton Rugby Treviso Srl)
13 PASSARELLA Dewi (Ruggers Tarvisium)
12 FUSARI Arturo (Fiamme Oro Rugby)
11 LAZZARIN Filippo (Petrarca Rugby)
10 TENEGGI Nicolò (Valorugby Emilia)
9 GARBISI Alessandro (Mogliano Rugby 1969 Ssd Arl)
8 FERRARI Giacomo (C) (Unione Rugby Capitolina)
7 BERLESE Carlos (Ruggers Tarvisium Asd)
6 ODIASE David (HBS Colorno)
5 ANDREOLI Riccardo (FEMI-CZ Rovigo)
4 ORTOMBINA Alessandro (Valorugby Emilia)
3 GENOVESE Riccardo (Cus Torino)
2 FRANGINI Lapo (Accademia Nazionale Ivan Francescato)
1 RIZZOLI Luca (Unione Rugby Capitolina)
A disposizione:
16 SCRAMONCIN Tommaso (Petrarca Rugby)
17 BIZZOTTO Valerio (Rugby Bassano 1976)
18 BERNARDINELLO Matteo (Petrarca Rugby)
19 RUBINATO Matteo (Benetton Rugby)
20 CENEDESE Giovanni (Villorba Rugby)
21 TOMASELLI Gianluca (G.S. Fiamme Oro Rugby Roma)
22 SANTE Giovanni (Mogliano Rugby 1969)
23 FORONCELLI Paul Marie (Rangers Vicenza)
England:
15. George Hendy (Northampton Saints, Caps 1)
14. Deago Bailey (Bristol Bears, Caps 4)
13. Tom Litchfield (Northampton Saints, Caps 3)
12. Ethan Grayson (Northampton Saints, Caps 1)
11. Francis Moore (Saracens, Caps 0)
10. Jamie Benson (Harlequins, Caps 1)
9. Matty Jones (Gloucester Rugby, Caps 1)
1. Fin Baxter (Harlequins, Caps 2) – Capitano
2. John Stewart (Bath Rugby, Caps 2)
3. Mikey Summerfield (London Irish, Caps 1)
4. Alfie Bell (Wasps, Caps 1)
5. Tom Lockett (Northampton Saints, Caps 1)
6. Alex Wardell (Saracens, Caps 1)
7. Toby Knight (Saracens, Caps 1)
8. Emeka Ilione (Leicester Tigers, Caps 2)
A disposizione:
16. Finn Theobald-Thomas (Worcester Warriors, Caps 0)
17. Mark Dormer (Newcastle, Caps 1)
18. Will Hobson (Harlequins, Caps 1)
19. Charlie Rice (Bristol Bears, Caps 1)
20. Greg Fisilau (Wasps, Caps 1)
21. Sam Edwards (Leicester Tigers, Caps 0)
22. Louie Johnson (Newcastle Falcons, Caps 1)
23. Ollie Dawkins (Wasps, Caps 1)
Shame Arundell's been dropped. I would have liked to have seen more of this sort of play
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:02 am
by sockwithaticket
Lobby wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:54 am
Kawazaki wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:32 am
Subs are called 'disposables' in Italian?
Still better than finishers.
Eddie treats the whole team (
and especially the Wasps players) as disposable, so its probably more appropriate than 'finishers'
I'm genuinely so relived Launch only spent a couple of days in camp before coming back to the club where we treat him like the precious bean he is.
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:18 pm
by JM2K6
sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:02 am
Lobby wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:54 am
Kawazaki wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:32 am
Subs are called 'disposables' in Italian?
Still better than finishers.
Eddie treats the whole team (
and especially the Wasps players) as disposable, so its probably more appropriate than 'finishers'
I'm genuinely so relived Launch only spent a couple of days in camp before coming back to the club where we treat him like the precious bean he is.
If there's one thing you can say about Wasps these days, it's that they don't injure their players...?
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:32 pm
by sockwithaticket
JM2K6 wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:18 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:02 am
Lobby wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:54 am
Eddie treats the whole team (
and especially the Wasps players) as disposable, so its probably more appropriate than 'finishers'
I'm genuinely so relived Launch only spent a couple of days in camp before coming back to the club where we treat him like the precious bean he is.
If there's one thing you can say about Wasps these days, it's that they don't injure their players...?
Shhh, Eddie bad.
Also, I'd be amazed if Joe isn't managed more closely than, say. Ben Morris.
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:23 pm
by tc27
Excellent setup to this thread.

Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:27 pm
by petej
Lobby wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:02 am
Shame Arundell's been dropped. I would have liked to have seen more of this sort of play
He hasn't been dropped. He is starting for London Irish which I'm pretty sure has priority over the u20's.
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:40 pm
by JM2K6
Showed good wheels here too
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:43 pm
by Happyhooker
JM2K6 wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:40 pm
Showed good wheels here too
Impressive from the Scottish 4 there as well
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:37 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Kawazaki wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:32 am
Subs are called 'disposables' in Italian?
Still better than finishers.
Get an education. Like French (disponible), it means available. But even in Inggurrrrlish, "to be at one's diposal" is available.
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:46 pm
by sockwithaticket
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:06 pm
by sturginho
Italy
15 Edoardo PADOVANI (Benetton Rugby, 31 caps)
14 Federico MORI (Bordeaux, 11 caps)
13 Juan Ignacio BREX (Benetton Rugby, 9 caps)
12 Marco ZANON (Benetton Rugby, 8 caps)
11 Montanna IOANE (Benetton Rugby, 10 caps)
10 Paolo GARBISI (Montpellier, 14 caps)
9 Stephen VARNEY (Gloucester Rugby, 10 caps)
8 Toa HALAFIHI (Benetton Rugby, 1 cap)
7 Michele LAMARO (Benetton Rugby, 11 caps) – capitano
6 Braam STEYN (Benetton Rugby, 46 caps)
5 Federico RUZZA (Benetton Rugby, 26 caps)
4 Niccolò CANNONE (Benetton Rugby, 16 caps)
3 Pietro CECCARELLI (Brive, 17 caps)
2 Gianmarco LUCCHESI (Benetton Rugby, 9 caps)
1 Danilo FISCHETTI (Zebre Parma, 16 caps)
Finitori:
16 Epalahame FAIVA (Benetton Rugby, 2 caps)
17 Cherif TRAORE’ (Benetton Rugby, 12 caps)
18 Tiziano PASQUALI (Benetton rugby, 22 caps)
19 David SISI (Zebre Parma, 18 caps)
20 Sebastian NEGRI (Benetton Rugby, 37 caps)
21 Giovanni PETTINELLI (Benetton Rugby, 2 caps)
22 Alessandro FUSCO (Fiamme Oro Rugby/Zebre Parma, 2 caps)
23 Leonardo MARIN (Benetton Rugby, 1 caps)
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:01 pm
by sturginho
What's the score pls?
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:09 pm
by sturginho
Nevermind, 6-0 after 45 mins
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:13 pm
by sturginho
Immense fucking defending
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:20 pm
by Slick
sturginho wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:13 pm
Immense fucking defending
Seriously impressive team
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:21 pm
by sockwithaticket
Italy's scrum just skull fucked ours.
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:23 pm
by sturginho
Someone call Caressa Dick England's scrum just got murdered!
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:29 pm
by sockwithaticket
Italy's goal kicking rate is England's mvp so far.
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:31 pm
by sturginho
Need to keep their composure in these key moments
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:34 pm
by sturginho
sturginho wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:31 pm
Need to keep their composure in these key moments
Ripeto...
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:37 pm
by Slick
sturginho wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:34 pm
sturginho wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:31 pm
Need to keep their composure in these key moments
Ripeto...
Can barely watch mate. Switched over from the Scotland game
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:39 pm
by sockwithaticket
Oh come on, there's nothing in that. Based on this she's been right to ignore the TMO most of the game.
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:42 pm
by Lobby
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:39 pm
Oh come on, there's nothing in that. Based on this she's been right to ignore the TMO most of the game.
She’s been superb so far, but has been forced into giving a penalty by the TMO.
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:43 pm
by Slick
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:39 pm
Oh come on, there's nothing in that. Based on this she's been right to ignore the TMO most of the game.
TMO was an absolute disgrace there. Put the ref under pressure again and again. Really awful stuff
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:45 pm
by sockwithaticket
Lobby wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:42 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:39 pm
Oh come on, there's nothing in that. Based on this she's been right to ignore the TMO most of the game.
She’s been superb so far, but has been forced into giving a penalty by the TMO.
Hope he gets a dressing down from the assessors. Like you say, she's been grand and he's gone out of his way to force her into making a decision she's clearly not comfortable with.
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:45 pm
by sturginho
Slick wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:43 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:39 pm
Oh come on, there's nothing in that. Based on this she's been right to ignore the TMO most of the game.
TMO was an absolute disgrace there. Put the ref under pressure again and again. Really awful stuff
Agreed
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:45 pm
by sockwithaticket
Lobby wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:42 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:39 pm
Oh come on, there's nothing in that. Based on this she's been right to ignore the TMO most of the game.
She’s been superb so far, but has been forced into giving a penalty by the TMO.
Haven't seen the like from a TMO in a while.
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:47 pm
by Slick
Italian 10 has been really, really poor in the last 15 minutes
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:48 pm
by sturginho
I can't fucking watch!
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:48 pm
by sockwithaticket
Slick wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:47 pm
Italian 10 has been really, really poor in the last 15 minutes
Forwards should demand the 9 just keep giving it to them. They've got the beating of our lads.
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:55 pm
by sturginho
This game has taken 10 years off my life....
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:57 pm
by sockwithaticket
English staff with letters on their bibs not covering themselves in glory there.
Ref appeared to be answering the physio(? P bib) questioning whether they were checking for fould play. Not his palce at all to be weighing in on that.
The doc (D bib) should know that there's an independent doctor capable of insisting on an HIA.
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:57 pm
by Slick
Really good reffing again in the face of English shithousery
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:59 pm
by I like neeps
What a f"cking win for Italy this will be!
Their 20s have been good for a long time. It's not long now, buy futures in Italian rugby!
Re: Not Italy Again
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:00 pm
by Lobby
Slick wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:57 pm
Really good reffing again in the face of English shithousery
Yes, she’s been really clear and decisive the whole game.
Oh and well done Italy. Thoroughly deserved win