Eddie's Back
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:25 pm
Apparently
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Re: Eddie's Back
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:44 pm
That is quite staggering.
Re: Eddie's Back
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:45 pm
Holy shit 
Re: Eddie's Back
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:51 pm
Oh yeah. They'll probably win the RWC. At the very least, they'll knock England out.EnergiseR2 wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:45 pm Nah he is always good for a while until the players get sick of him
Then it will get very miserable.
So probably worth it all said.
Re: Eddie's Back
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:03 pm
Five years is mental.
Re: Eddie's Back
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:10 pm
Gits having fun with it. Shit's about to weird in that Oz camp as Eddie starts to weed out the non hackers and independent thinkers.
Re: Eddie's Back
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:17 pm
Good.
I hope the whole shebang crashes and burns like a turd in a paper bag.
I hope the whole shebang crashes and burns like a turd in a paper bag.
Re: Eddie's Back
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:18 pm
Aus got enough pro players for Jones to break half of the in camp?
Re: Eddie's Back
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:31 pm
After the initial what the fuck of the announcement, that was the second. Obviously we're not privy to the contract details, but it's mental to offer anyone more than a world cup cycle without some very detailed performance clauses, let alone a coach with a well documented tendency to burn out his welcome.
Re: Eddie's Back
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:48 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:31 pmAfter the initial what the fuck of the announcement, that was the second. Obviously we're not privy to the contract details, but it's mental to offer anyone more than a world cup cycle without some very detailed performance clauses, let alone a coach with a well documented tendency to burn out his welcome.
Re: Eddie's Back
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 12:02 am
If you’re not happy with your side this close to a WC he’s the man to call, I like it from that perspective. 5 years suggests a lack of institutional memory in Australian rugby.
Feel a bit for Rennie who I thought had created a team of tough bastards better than their parts in a hard autumn.
Overall though, very amusing
Feel a bit for Rennie who I thought had created a team of tough bastards better than their parts in a hard autumn.
Overall though, very amusing
Re: Eddie's Back
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 12:23 am
Shouldn't be surprised with these pricks, old honest Hamish McLennan assuring all and sundry that Rennie was the man to lead Wallabies through to WC just before xmas? He certainly gives the words lying prick a whole new meaning doesn't he? Mind you he does it so often who can be surprised?
Re: Eddie's Back
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 12:32 am
Yeah, but first they'll win the Rugby Championship and the Bledisloe.
He really is a prick.
Re: Eddie's Back
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 1:19 am
I can see the Wallabies finally getting the better of the All Blacks under Eddie… he’s cunning and Foster is the opposite of that. The players all know each other and can match up well on the day. Coupled with that is the deep seated anger some in the Australian camp harbour towards NZ…. Losing to us burns a hot scorchy sphincter through those guys. Hamish MacLennan embodies it.
Aside from matching the NZ sides though, the Wallabies have been out of their depth internationally and it would be an optimist who sees Eddie being able to turn that around.
Injuries have nobbled the Wallabies cruelly over the last couple of years but coupled with that is a massive over estimation of their quality. I don’t think they’re anywhere near as good as they think they are.
Aside from matching the NZ sides though, the Wallabies have been out of their depth internationally and it would be an optimist who sees Eddie being able to turn that around.
Injuries have nobbled the Wallabies cruelly over the last couple of years but coupled with that is a massive over estimation of their quality. I don’t think they’re anywhere near as good as they think they are.
Re: Eddie's Back
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 3:52 am
Eddie to bully… I mean inspire the sheilas as well with his wisdom poached from others?
Re: Eddie's Back
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 5:33 am
Anyone else think that maybe Jones was chatting to people in the ARU about this long before he got sacked?
Re: Eddie's Back
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 5:36 am
This is quite a shock, from the outside. I thought Australia were coming along quite nicely under Rennie and were starting to look like dark horses for the world cup.
Re: Eddie's Back
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 5:51 am
Something like that. The news of his sacking broke from Sydney two days before it happened.Kawazaki wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 5:33 am Anyone else think that maybe Jones was chatting to people in the ARU about this long before he got sacked?
Re: Eddie's Back
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:14 am
Like others have said, it might be worthwhile for this WC cycle. But then contracting him until the next one is madness.
The Aussies are going to losing it come 25-26. Or earlier, should Aus not make the semis.
The Aussies are going to losing it come 25-26. Or earlier, should Aus not make the semis.
Re: Eddie's Back
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:55 am
Jones has lost his mojo. He's a dinosaur from a different age. I expect him to fail with Australia like he failed with England.
Re: Eddie's Back
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:59 am
His win ratio even in the face of the last year does not suggest he failed.Kawazaki wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:55 am Jones has lost his mojo. He's a dinosaur from a different age. I expect him to fail with Australia like he failed with England.
Re: Eddie's Back
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:02 am
42%?
There was no upside to Eddie. He was losing playing awful rugby with a poorly selected team.
Re: Eddie's Back
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:19 am
73% overall, making him the most successful English coach. He was very good at the beginning, but should have left after the 2019 RWC.Kawazaki wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:02 am
42%?
There was no upside to Eddie. He was losing playing awful rugby with a poorly selected team.
Re: Eddie's Back
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:24 am
Lobby wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:19 am73% overall, making him the most successful English coach. He was very good at the beginning, but should have left after the 2019 RWC.
Exactly, it's pointless talking about an average that is fluffed from results years ago using a group of players that he hardly was responsible for developing.
After 7 years that was his squad, his development, his environment and his ridiculous coaching team and the result was garbage.
Re: Eddie's Back
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:24 am
People will try and tell you that Ian Foster has a decent record as well… but we can all see he hasn’t really got a clue about what he’s up to.
Jones is in a similar sort of position… he might have short term impact but his ideas and style belong to a time gone by. It’s some sort of knee jerk move from RA who appear desperate to strike some sort of trademark of their own on Rugby… the Sydney club scene with its delusions of grandeur and yoke of insecurity.
Jones is in a similar sort of position… he might have short term impact but his ideas and style belong to a time gone by. It’s some sort of knee jerk move from RA who appear desperate to strike some sort of trademark of their own on Rugby… the Sydney club scene with its delusions of grandeur and yoke of insecurity.
Re: Eddie's Back
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:27 am
I don’t think I’ve met more than one or two from that scene that aren’t a complete twunt!!Guy Smiley wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:24 am People will try and tell you that Ian Foster has a decent record as well… but we can all see he hasn’t really got a clue about what he’s up to.
Jones is in a similar sort of position… he might have short term impact but his ideas and style belong to a time gone by. It’s some sort of knee jerk move from RA who appear desperate to strike some sort of trademark of their own on Rugby… the Sydney club scene with its delusions of grandeur and yoke of insecurity.
Particularly the eastern suburbs somehow.
Re: Eddie's Back
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 5:02 pm
Haha... good question!
Re: Eddie's Back
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:00 pm
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union ... australia/Guy Smiley wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 5:51 amSomething like that. The news of his sacking broke from Sydney two days before it happened.Kawazaki wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 5:33 am Anyone else think that maybe Jones was chatting to people in the ARU about this long before he got sacked?
Eddie Jones held secret talks with Rugby Australia over the course of 14 months, Telegraph Sport can reveal.
Jones, who was appointed as Wallabies head coach on Sunday night, had at least three meetings with Rugby Australia leadership including one while on tour with England last summer.
Following his sacking as England head coach, Jones was handed a five-year contract to replace New Zealander Dave Rennie – setting up a potential head-to-head with England in the quarter-finals of the Rugby World Cup later this year.
Remarkably that journey first began over dinner at the Gaucho restaurant in Richmond, south west London in November 2021.
Jones is said to have met with Rugby Australia chairman Hamish McLennan and their chief executive Andy Marinos there following England’s autumn campaign, which included a 32-15 victory over the Wallabies at Twickenham.
It is understood that Rugby Australia had instigated the meeting with a view of sounding out “where his head was” as part of their first steps to see if he would be interested in returning to his homeland to take up the position of Wallabies head coach after this year’s World Cup, when his England contract was due to expire.
“His articulation of club rugby [in Australia], player movements within rugby league and union, the competitive landscape and what needed to be done was very impressive,” recalls McLennan.
Jones is said to have been “100 per cent” committed to England through to the World Cup during the meeting, and again when Jones was entertained McLennan at his home – a stone’s throw from the Sydney Harbour Bridge – where he was also joined by Marinos for a confidential meeting after England’s tour of Australia last July.
Re: Eddie's Back
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:06 pm
What a dumb move. Goodbye Wallabies