Simulation Hypothesis

[Ymx]

I remember thinking when I was younger ~ 16

Aren’t all particles going to react and move in a way predetermined by their current state and wholly determined by laws of the universe? Electro magnetic, gravitational, other forces and energy transfer, etc….

Since we and the universe are just a clump of particles, isn’t it therefore completely determined (but not predictable) what’s going happen? We don’t have any control. It’s all just playing out how it should. And we are just a bunch of particles playing out a small part of that whole picture.

But I’m sure I’m not the first to have thought about this, and probably been debunked.

[yermum]

For all the Iain m banks heads. We are just living in the land of infinite fun some minds playtime

[GogLais]

I remember thinking when I was younger ~ 16

Aren’t all particles going to react and move in a way predetermined by their current state and wholly determined by laws of the universe? Electro magnetic, gravitational, other forces and energy transfer, etc….

Since we and the universe are just a clump of particles, isn’t it therefore completely determined (but not predictable) what’s going happen? We don’t have any control. It’s all just playing out how it should. And we are just a bunch of particles playing out a small part of that whole picture.

But I’m sure I’m not the first to have thought about this, and probably been debunked.

I think Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle did for that Newtonian theory. But I’m not sure.

[Grandpa]

If the simulation theory is true... does it explain why you, are you? Or am I the only player in my simulated universe?

[Niegs]

Ahh... I thought this might be a discussion about more players milking penalties. Carry on.

[Line6 HXFX]

Tend to think we created ourselves. That in 400 thousand years we will definately have the technology to do a big bang (we can replicate the beginning Iof the universe in particle accelerators now, look how far technology has come in just 50 years etc),
So if in the future there is even the possibility we can create a big bang, then the big bang that created us was probably man made, as we are the only things in the universe with this potential.
Who created the first one?
Who cares, its pretty easy. We probably did the last one and the one before etc
We could have been replicating ourselves and the universe for ever.

Call this theory Hillbilly2 theory..one of many hillbilly theories. Came up with it in a bath whilst reading a brief history of time.

2 years later the Daily Express wrote and article "scientists terrified they may set off a big bang in particle accellerator"..

We are worried about doing this now.


You're welcome world.
My theory unlike religion, or flowery shite has evidence you can point at...remarkable human technology and its pace is all around us.
So it's pretty easy to imagine we will be able to create a big bang.
And the big bang that created us was man made.

[Biffer]

I remember thinking when I was younger ~ 16

Aren’t all particles going to react and move in a way predetermined by their current state and wholly determined by laws of the universe? Electro magnetic, gravitational, other forces and energy transfer, etc….

Since we and the universe are just a clump of particles, isn’t it therefore completely determined (but not predictable) what’s going happen? We don’t have any control. It’s all just playing out how it should. And we are just a bunch of particles playing out a small part of that whole picture.

But I’m sure I’m not the first to have thought about this, and probably been debunked.

No, as Goglais says (with a wee physics joke), this is the classical physics of Newton etc.

One of the things that troubled physicists in the late 1800s and early 1900s was exactly what you say above - physics as it stood then suggested everything was predetermined. However the advent of quantum theory revealed that things aren’t predetermined. We can’t predict when a particular radioactive atom will decay, for example. That’s not because there’s something we don’t know, it’s because the occurrence is random. Similarly, we can’t measure everything precisely - you can know exactly where something is, but if you know that you can’t know how it’s moving. It’s absolutely mental, it doesn’t line up with common sense, and it’s correct.

[Biffer]

Tend to think we created ourselves. That in 400 thousand years we will definately have the technology to do a big bang (we can replicate the beginning Iof the universe in particle accelerators now, look how far technology has come in just 50 years etc),
So if in the future there is even the possibility we can create a big bang, then the big bang that created us was probably man made, as we are the only things in the universe with this potential.
Who created the first one?
Who cares, its pretty easy. We probably did the last one and the one before etc
We could have been replicating ourselves and the universe for ever.

Call this theory Hillbilly2 theory..one of many hillbilly theories. Came up with it in a bath whilst reading a brief history of time.

2 years later the Daily Express wrote and article "scientists terrified they may set off a big bang in particle accellerator"..

We are worried about doing this now.


You're welcome world.
My theory unlike religion, or flowery shite has evidence you can point at...remarkable human technology and its pace is all around us.
So it's pretty easy to imagine we will be able to create a big bang.
And the big bang that created us was man made.

Scientists were never terrified of that happening.

[Grandpa]

If the simulation theory is true... does it explain why you, are you? Or am I the only player in my simulated universe?

I' used to wonder that as well but I reckon the computing power would be great enough to have us all as separate simulated characters. I am obviously some sort of upgrade where the player had to collect a thousand diamonds or pay a million Dorlicks for

Makes sense. I'll be the starter model... 1/2 price, with free extra planet in your local system with each new simulation ticket...

[fishfoodie]

If the simulation theory is true... does it explain why you, are you? Or am I the only player in my simulated universe?

I' used to wonder that as well but I reckon the computing power would be great enough to have us all as separate simulated characters. I am obviously some sort of upgrade where the player had to collect a thousand diamonds or pay a million Dorlicks for

Makes sense. I'll be the starter model... 1/2 price, with free extra planet in your local system with each new simulation ticket...

But there's an infinity of universes, where every possible permutation & combination of outcomes is covered, so you're just one of the less desirable ones, while in an infinity of other ones, you're King of the World.

[Grandpa]

I' used to wonder that as well but I reckon the computing power would be great enough to have us all as separate simulated characters. I am obviously some sort of upgrade where the player had to collect a thousand diamonds or pay a million Dorlicks for

Makes sense. I'll be the starter model... 1/2 price, with free extra planet in your local system with each new simulation ticket...

But there's an infinity of universes, where every possible permutation & combination of outcomes is covered, so you're just one of the less desirable ones, while in an infinity of other ones, you're King of the World.

In my dreams I've played over 100 tests for the All Blacks. I wonder if they are alternate realities where I paid full price?

[fishfoodie]

Makes sense. I'll be the starter model... 1/2 price, with free extra planet in your local system with each new simulation ticket...

But there's an infinity of universes, where every possible permutation & combination of outcomes is covered, so you're just one of the less desirable ones, while in an infinity of other ones, you're King of the World.

In my dreams I've played over 100 tests for the All Blacks. I wonder if they are alternate realities where I paid full price?

Those weren't dreams, they were you tapping into what other jammier versions of your existence have as real memories .

[Hellraiser]

I've never found simulation theory plausible, let alone convincing.

[Grandpa]

But there's an infinity of universes, where every possible permutation & combination of outcomes is covered, so you're just one of the less desirable ones, while in an infinity of other ones, you're King of the World.

In my dreams I've played over 100 tests for the All Blacks. I wonder if they are alternate realities where I paid full price?

Those weren't dreams, they were you tapping into what other jammier versions of your existence have as real memories .

That's what my simulated mind is telling me... I wonder if those high achievers ever dream of me...

[broeyes]

I remember thinking when I was younger ~ 16

Aren’t all particles going to react and move in a way predetermined by their current state and wholly determined by laws of the universe? Electro magnetic, gravitational, other forces and energy transfer, etc….

Since we and the universe are just a clump of particles, isn’t it therefore completely determined (but not predictable) what’s going happen? We don’t have any control. It’s all just playing out how it should. And we are just a bunch of particles playing out a small part of that whole picture.

But I’m sure I’m not the first to have thought about this, and probably been debunked.

No, as Goglais says (with a wee physics joke), this is the classical physics of Newton etc.

One of the things that troubled physicists in the late 1800s and early 1900s was exactly what you say above - physics as it stood then suggested everything was predetermined. However the advent of quantum theory revealed that things aren’t predetermined. We can’t predict when a particular radioactive atom will decay, for example. That’s not because there’s something we don’t know, it’s because the occurrence is random. Similarly, we can’t measure everything precisely - you can know exactly where something is, but if you know that you can’t know how it’s moving. It’s absolutely mental, it doesn’t line up with common sense, and it’s correct.

The many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics is deterministic.

[Biffer]

I remember thinking when I was younger ~ 16

Aren’t all particles going to react and move in a way predetermined by their current state and wholly determined by laws of the universe? Electro magnetic, gravitational, other forces and energy transfer, etc….

Since we and the universe are just a clump of particles, isn’t it therefore completely determined (but not predictable) what’s going happen? We don’t have any control. It’s all just playing out how it should. And we are just a bunch of particles playing out a small part of that whole picture.

But I’m sure I’m not the first to have thought about this, and probably been debunked.

No, as Goglais says (with a wee physics joke), this is the classical physics of Newton etc.

One of the things that troubled physicists in the late 1800s and early 1900s was exactly what you say above - physics as it stood then suggested everything was predetermined. However the advent of quantum theory revealed that things aren’t predetermined. We can’t predict when a particular radioactive atom will decay, for example. That’s not because there’s something we don’t know, it’s because the occurrence is random. Similarly, we can’t measure everything precisely - you can know exactly where something is, but if you know that you can’t know how it’s moving. It’s absolutely mental, it doesn’t line up with common sense, and it’s correct.

The many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics is deterministic.

Not in the classical sense.

[Slick]

Fight, fight, fight

[fishfoodie]

Fight, fight, fight

what particle is emitted when physicists collide ?

[GogLais]

Fight, fight, fight

what particle is emitted when physicists collide ?

Boreatron? Actually no, I find it fascinating even if largely beyond my understanding.

[troglodiet]

I remember thinking when I was younger ~ 16

Aren’t all particles going to react and move in a way predetermined by their current state and wholly determined by laws of the universe? Electro magnetic, gravitational, other forces and energy transfer, etc….

Since we and the universe are just a clump of particles, isn’t it therefore completely determined (but not predictable) what’s going happen? We don’t have any control. It’s all just playing out how it should. And we are just a bunch of particles playing out a small part of that whole picture.

But I’m sure I’m not the first to have thought about this, and probably been debunked.

No, as Goglais says (with a wee physics joke), this is the classical physics of Newton etc.

One of the things that troubled physicists in the late 1800s and early 1900s was exactly what you say above - physics as it stood then suggested everything was predetermined. However the advent of quantum theory revealed that things aren’t predetermined. We can’t predict when a particular radioactive atom will decay, for example. That’s not because there’s something we don’t know, it’s because the occurrence is random. Similarly, we can’t measure everything precisely - you can know exactly where something is, but if you know that you can’t know how it’s moving. It’s absolutely mental, it doesn’t line up with common sense, and it’s correct.

What makes everything you said even worse, is the theory that this shit only happens when it's observed.


Ás for the simulation theory: if true, then I'm pretty sure they changed their OS from Linux to Windows a couple of years ago. This will explain why the whole world seems to have lost their minds.

[Ymx]

I remember thinking when I was younger ~ 16

Aren’t all particles going to react and move in a way predetermined by their current state and wholly determined by laws of the universe? Electro magnetic, gravitational, other forces and energy transfer, etc….

Since we and the universe are just a clump of particles, isn’t it therefore completely determined (but not predictable) what’s going happen? We don’t have any control. It’s all just playing out how it should. And we are just a bunch of particles playing out a small part of that whole picture.

But I’m sure I’m not the first to have thought about this, and probably been debunked.

That’s not because there’s something we don’t know, it’s because the occurrence is random. Similarly, we can’t measure everything precisely - you can know exactly where something is, but if you know that you can’t know how it’s moving. It’s absolutely mental, it doesn’t line up with common sense, and it’s correct.

Sounds like a mess. Are these laws written by the same clowns who wrote the rugby laws?

[Grandpa]

I remember thinking when I was younger ~ 16

Aren’t all particles going to react and move in a way predetermined by their current state and wholly determined by laws of the universe? Electro magnetic, gravitational, other forces and energy transfer, etc….

Since we and the universe are just a clump of particles, isn’t it therefore completely determined (but not predictable) what’s going happen? We don’t have any control. It’s all just playing out how it should. And we are just a bunch of particles playing out a small part of that whole picture.

But I’m sure I’m not the first to have thought about this, and probably been debunked.

That’s not because there’s something we don’t know, it’s because the occurrence is random. Similarly, we can’t measure everything precisely - you can know exactly where something is, but if you know that you can’t know how it’s moving. It’s absolutely mental, it doesn’t line up with common sense, and it’s correct.

Sounds like a mess. Are these laws written by the same clowns who wrote the rugby laws?

Of course.. they write everything. The humour of making Foster All Blacks coach followed by the great redeemer...

[Ymx]

That’s not because there’s something we don’t know, it’s because the occurrence is random. Similarly, we can’t measure everything precisely - you can know exactly where something is, but if you know that you can’t know how it’s moving. It’s absolutely mental, it doesn’t line up with common sense, and it’s correct.

Sounds like a mess. Are these laws written by the same clowns who wrote the rugby laws?

Of course.. they write everything. The humour of making Foster All Blacks coach followed by the great redeemer...

God damnit ! Just imagine the lucky kiwis not in our universe dimension who don’t have Foster as the ABs head coach.

How do we apply for a visa to transfer dimensions? Is there a big waiting list?

[Grandpa]

Sounds like a mess. Are these laws written by the same clowns who wrote the rugby laws?

Of course.. they write everything. The humour of making Foster All Blacks coach followed by the great redeemer...

God damnit ! Just imagine the lucky kiwis not in our universe dimension who don’t have Foster as the ABs head coach.

How do we apply for a visa to transfer dimensions? Is there a big waiting list?

You really want to see the All Blacks team that still hasn't won a world cup since 1987... and Foster has just been replaced after 12 years by Plumtree & Moar?

[Biffer]

I remember thinking when I was younger ~ 16

Aren’t all particles going to react and move in a way predetermined by their current state and wholly determined by laws of the universe? Electro magnetic, gravitational, other forces and energy transfer, etc….

Since we and the universe are just a clump of particles, isn’t it therefore completely determined (but not predictable) what’s going happen? We don’t have any control. It’s all just playing out how it should. And we are just a bunch of particles playing out a small part of that whole picture.

But I’m sure I’m not the first to have thought about this, and probably been debunked.

That’s not because there’s something we don’t know, it’s because the occurrence is random. Similarly, we can’t measure everything precisely - you can know exactly where something is, but if you know that you can’t know how it’s moving. It’s absolutely mental, it doesn’t line up with common sense, and it’s correct.

Sounds like a mess. Are these laws written by the same clowns who wrote the rugby laws?

From a mathematical point of view some of it is quite elegant. But quantum mechanics is mental.

[Ymx]

I wish I’d taken physics longer, but I did engineering.

I’m a complete maths nerd.

I genuinely loved my first taste of relativity creating a formula based on a train moving past and factoring in speed of light being the same from two observers, came out with a famous formula. But can’t remember what it was. I think it was of time slowing down.