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Squad off to Argentina

Full Bok tour squad: Props: Thomas du Toit, Steven Kitshoff, Vincent Koch, Gerhard Steenekamp, Trevor Nyakane. Hookers: Bongi Mbonambi, Joseph Dweba. Locks: Lood de Jager, Jean Kleyn, Marvin Orie. Loose forwards: Jean-Luc du Preez, Evan Roos, Jasper Wiese. Utility forwards: Deon Fourie, Franco Mostert. Scrumhalves: Jaden Hendrikse, Herschel Jantjies, Cobus Reinach. Flyhalf: Manie Libbok. Centres: Lukhanyo Am, Andre Esterhuizen, Jesse Kriel. Outside backs: Makazole Mapimpi, Canan Moodie, Kurt-Lee Arendse. Utility back: Damian Willemse.

Players left in SA: Pieter-Steph du Toit, Eben Etzebeth, Siya Kolisi, Frans Malherbe, Malcolm Marx, Ox Nche, Kwagga Smith, RG Snyman, Marco van Staden, Duane Vermeulen, Damian de Allende, Faf de Klerk, Cheslin Kolbe, Willie le Roux, Handre Pollard, Grant Williams.

Last chance to get in the WC squad. Team maybe
KLA, Mapimpi, Am, AE, Moodie, Willemse, Jantjies, Roos,JldP, Fourie, Kleyn, Lood, Koch, Dweba, Trevor

Going to be a though day at the office for the boks

boere wors wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:00 am Going to be a though day at the office for the boks

That side is set up to fail. All part of the masterplan

KLA to the bench, Willemse in 15, Libbok 10. Hendricks will probably start in 9 , Herschel on the bench.

Sards wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:41 am

boere wors wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:00 am Going to be a though day at the office for the boks

That side is set up to fail. All part of the masterplan

Your Faf and Willie like team failed heavily at home. Time to give the others a chance.

I’d like to see the team pass instead of kick everything.

Sandstorm wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 8:11 am I’d like to see the team pass instead of kick everything.

Mate, this is a Rasnaber team.

Sandstorm wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 8:11 am I’d like to see the team pass instead of kick everything.

The Stormers spoiled us rotten.

Chilli wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 10:18 am

Sandstorm wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 8:11 am I’d like to see the team pass instead of kick everything.

Mate, this is a Rasnaber team.

Boet look, I don't mind when Faf kick in our own half, but yesterday he did on the Pumas 22m. I vokken got totally crazy when he does.

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 11:45 am

Chilli wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 10:18 am

Sandstorm wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 8:11 am I’d like to see the team pass instead of kick everything.

Mate, this is a Rasnaber team.

Boet look, I don't mind when Faf kick in our own half, but yesterday he did on the Pumas 22m. I vokken got totally crazy when he does.

It makes me drink too much.

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 11:45 am

Chilli wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 10:18 am

Sandstorm wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 8:11 am I’d like to see the team pass instead of kick everything.

Mate, this is a Rasnaber team.

Boet look, I don't mind when Faf kick in our own half, but yesterday he did on the Pumas 22m. I vokken got totally crazy when he does.

Lost my shit when he did that

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:57 am

Sards wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:41 am

boere wors wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:00 am Going to be a though day at the office for the boks

That side is set up to fail. All part of the masterplan

Your Faf and Willie like team failed heavily at home. Time to give the others a chance.

WTF are you talking about....vokkof with your provincial bias you old tit

Sandstorm wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 8:11 am I’d like to see the team pass instead of kick everything.

I don't think you actually watched the game.....I watched it a second time and Faf passed a shit load.....problem is he passed to the forwards mostly...our kick chase was very poor on his up and unders which were very contestable....those small wings werent up to the job......go have another look. You might realise you are a tit for making that statement. Manie and Willie were very good at their little chip kicks and kicks to the wings....once again the wings were too small..


Our kick and chase and contesting of the high ball has gone down a lot of knots.....against New Zealand we were badly exposed with lots of knock ons from the likes of Willemse etc.
Willie actually made team of the week this past weekend.....so obviously someone knows more than the tits on here

I still reckon this team is set up to fail.......these are the players the public are querying for starter positions , and failure against the Argies at home , after the boys left behind almost lost it at home.....will put the nail in some coffins

Argies will be playing their best team and thats going to be a challenge. I hope the boys do it.....and don't go complainig on social media about 16 players on the field against the boks...

Has anyone got stats for the argies match or a platform where I can find individual stats on kick percentages etc just so we can put all the tits to bed.

Would also like to see the stats on the New Zealand match

Sards wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:56 am

Sandstorm wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 8:11 am I’d like to see the team pass instead of kick everything.

I don't think you actually watched the game.....I watched it a second time and Faf kicked a shit load.....problem is he passed to the forwards mostly...our kick chase was very poor on his up and unders which were very contestable....those small wings werent up to the job......go have another look. You might realise you are a tit for making that statement. Manie and Willie were very good at their little chip kicks and kicks to the wings....once again the wings were too small..


Our kick and chase and contesting of the high ball has gone down a lot of knots.....against New Zealand we were badly exposed with lots of knock ons from the likes of Willemse etc.
Willie actually made team of the week this past weekend.....so obviously someone knows more than the tits on here

Fixed

LoveOfTheGame wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:38 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 11:45 am

Chilli wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 10:18 am

Mate, this is a Rasnaber team.

Boet look, I don't mind when Faf kick in our own half, but yesterday he did on the Pumas 22m. I vokken got totally crazy when he does.

Lost my shit when he did that

This will make me watching netbal. If RasNaber think we will win a WC with this kak we just may aswell hand over the WC to the All Blacks

Sards wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:07 am Has anyone got stats for the argies match or a platform where I can find individual stats on kick percentages etc just so we can put all the tits to bed.

Would also like to see the stats on the New Zealand match

Check your stats first Sards.

Sards wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:47 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:57 am

Sards wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:41 am

That side is set up to fail. All part of the masterplan

Your Faf and Willie like team failed heavily at home. Time to give the others a chance.

WTF are you talking about....vokkof with your provincial bias you old tit

You $hark$ lot maybe use to this high kick/box kick losing rugby. Thats why you didnt qualify for the HC. I want to see the Springboks play more running rugby. Value possession more. We dont dominate the other packs anymore. They get their own lineout balls, scrums are steady and is just as good on the floor. We gave them more possession by vokken kick it down their throats.

Obvious you are to stupid to understand this.

OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:15 am We dont dominate the other packs anymore. They get their own lineout balls, scrums are steady and is just as good on the floor.

Narrator: The Bok pack dominated.

LoveOfTheGame wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:11 am

Sards wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:07 am Has anyone got stats for the argies match or a platform where I can find individual stats on kick percentages etc just so we can put all the tits to bed.

Would also like to see the stats on the New Zealand match

Check your stats first Sards.

I watched the game. Twice. I am quietly confident

OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:15 am

Sards wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:47 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:57 am

Your Faf and Willie like team failed heavily at home. Time to give the others a chance.

WTF are you talking about....vokkof with your provincial bias you old tit

You $hark$ lot maybe use to this high kick/box kick losing rugby. Thats why you didnt qualify for the HC. I want to see the Springboks play more running rugby. Value possession more. We dont dominate the other packs anymore. They get their own lineout balls, scrums are steady and is just as good on the floor. We gave them more possession by vokken kick it down their throats.

Obvious you are to stupid to understand this.

With you 100 percent. But put the spotlight where it belongs.
WPs vokken Rassnabber...

Look the Stormers scrum has been creaking for years now. Fatty and ninja are burnt out. You vokkers overplayed them. Don't put the lack of dominance in the scrum on anyone else.
Lineouts...I don't understand this . Unless they are just automatically setting up to counter the maul. I agree. Contest the vokken ball. Orie can only be getting game time over Kleyn because of the lack of transformation over the last lineup. Murmurs already with grumbling can hardly help them pick who they want. But yes. I saw Kleyn Contest. He is the only one. So ja agree.
Hooker. I don't understand what is going on with Bongi. He was decent for the Sharks....under Rassnabber he has lost his confidence. Sort this shit out.
Wiese seems out of favor. But we have no lack of loose forwards. It's just the combinations. And keeping a place for Kolisi. Ok there.
De Allende and Kriel....my vok. I can't believe I touted Kriel as a bok and everyone laughed at me. Now we can't get rid of the vokker.
Never rated De Allende over Esterhuizen. But here we sit. Not even bothering with the rest.

You criticise any players not a Stormers and yet it's the vokken Stormers coaching crew with their little pets who have put us in this drama. So vok off. I don't think we will get past the quarters

We are going to poes klap the Argies!

Chilli wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:58 pm We are going to poes klap the Argies!

They almost beat our b team at Ellis park. You really think the c team will poes klap them in their backyard??

boere wors wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:32 pm

Chilli wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:58 pm We are going to poes klap the Argies!

They almost beat our b team at Ellis park. You really think the c team will poes klap them in their backyard??

They never beat our b team at Ellis Park.
Yes, I believe that our c team will beat them in their backyard.

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:28 am Squad off to Argentina

Full Bok tour squad: Props: Thomas du Toit, Steven Kitshoff, Vincent Koch, Gerhard Steenekamp, Trevor Nyakane. Hookers: Bongi Mbonambi, Joseph Dweba. Locks: Lood de Jager, Jean Kleyn, Marvin Orie. Loose forwards: Jean-Luc du Preez, Evan Roos, Jasper Wiese. Utility forwards: Deon Fourie, Franco Mostert. Scrumhalves: Jaden Hendrikse, Herschel Jantjies, Cobus Reinach. Flyhalf: Manie Libbok. Centres: Lukhanyo Am, Andre Esterhuizen, Jesse Kriel. Outside backs: Makazole Mapimpi, Canan Moodie, Kurt-Lee Arendse. Utility back: Damian Willemse.

Players left in SA: Pieter-Steph du Toit, Eben Etzebeth, Siya Kolisi, Frans Malherbe, Malcolm Marx, Ox Nche, Kwagga Smith, RG Snyman, Marco van Staden, Duane Vermeulen, Damian de Allende, Faf de Klerk, Cheslin Kolbe, Willie le Roux, Handre Pollard, Grant Williams.

Can we piggy back the bled part 2 on to this thread?

If so, just edit your first post and edit the subject line.

I can’t be arsed for a game I probably won’t see live.

" I am not sure but this seems to be the most unorganized and uncertain time that SA Rugby has been in prior to a RWC "
Found this.

On reflection.
Do any of the Saffers feel we have a realistic chance of winning this.
Is anyone comfortable with our preparation and coaching.
Let's be honest. We have some serious talent at our disposal . But are we going to see the best out of them.
We are Ireland's bitches currently. Can we realistically beat them. We are France's bitches. Do we have a plan to beat them that you can see. The ABs made us look like a school team. Can we realistically beat them in the next few years.

" I am not sure but this seems to be the most unorganized and uncertain time that SA Rugby has been in prior to a RWC "
Found this.

On reflection.
Do any of the Saffers feel we have a realistic chance of winning this.
Is anyone comfortable with our preparation and coaching.
Let's be honest. We have some serious talent at our disposal . But are we going to see the best out of them.
We are Ireland's bitches currently. Can we realistically beat them. We are France's bitches. Do we have a plan to beat them that you can see. The ABs made us look like a school team. Can we realistically beat them in the next few years.

Sards wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:41 pm " I am not sure but this seems to be the most unorganized and uncertain time that SA Rugby has been in prior to a RWC "
Found this.

On reflection.
Do any of the Saffers feel we have a realistic chance of winning this.
Is anyone comfortable with our preparation and coaching.
Let's be honest. We have some serious talent at our disposal . But are we going to see the best out of them.
We are Ireland's bitches currently. Can we realistically beat them. We are France's bitches. Do we have a plan to beat them that you can see. The ABs made us look like a school team. Can we realistically beat them in the next few years.

Yay. 3 months of negative posting from you.

Sandstorm wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:01 pm

Sards wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:41 pm " I am not sure but this seems to be the most unorganized and uncertain time that SA Rugby has been in prior to a RWC "
Found this.

On reflection.
Do any of the Saffers feel we have a realistic chance of winning this.
Is anyone comfortable with our preparation and coaching.
Let's be honest. We have some serious talent at our disposal . But are we going to see the best out of them.
We are Ireland's bitches currently. Can we realistically beat them. We are France's bitches. Do we have a plan to beat them that you can see. The ABs made us look like a school team. Can we realistically beat them in the next few years.

Yay. 3 months of negative posting from you.

Hey. 2019 could happen again.
Knockout games in any sport is uncertain.

LoveOfTheGame wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:11 am

Sards wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:07 am Has anyone got stats for the argies match or a platform where I can find individual stats on kick percentages etc just so we can put all the tits to bed.

Would also like to see the stats on the New Zealand match

Check your stats first Sards.

Yeah. Waa fun to peek. It's amazing how easily we can be influenced by perception

Ymx wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:12 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:28 am Squad off to Argentina

Full Bok tour squad: Props: Thomas du Toit, Steven Kitshoff, Vincent Koch, Gerhard Steenekamp, Trevor Nyakane. Hookers: Bongi Mbonambi, Joseph Dweba. Locks: Lood de Jager, Jean Kleyn, Marvin Orie. Loose forwards: Jean-Luc du Preez, Evan Roos, Jasper Wiese. Utility forwards: Deon Fourie, Franco Mostert. Scrumhalves: Jaden Hendrikse, Herschel Jantjies, Cobus Reinach. Flyhalf: Manie Libbok. Centres: Lukhanyo Am, Andre Esterhuizen, Jesse Kriel. Outside backs: Makazole Mapimpi, Canan Moodie, Kurt-Lee Arendse. Utility back: Damian Willemse.

Players left in SA: Pieter-Steph du Toit, Eben Etzebeth, Siya Kolisi, Frans Malherbe, Malcolm Marx, Ox Nche, Kwagga Smith, RG Snyman, Marco van Staden, Duane Vermeulen, Damian de Allende, Faf de Klerk, Cheslin Kolbe, Willie le Roux, Handre Pollard, Grant Williams.

Can we piggy back the bled part 2 on to this thread?

If so, just edit your first post and edit the subject line.

I can’t be arsed for a game I probably won’t see live.

Done.

Cheers boet

Ymx wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:55 pmCheers boet

Will Foster select an All Blacks C team this weekend?

OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:01 pm

Ymx wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:55 pmCheers boet

Will Foster select an All Blacks C team this weekend?

Yep, he’s confirmed that is going to be the case.

“We love the word dead rubber from one perspective because that means we’ve done the job in the first Test, but it doesn’t change the fact it’s still a Test match,” he said. “It’s a vital cog on our little steps towards the World Cup.

“It’s another chance for us to have a look at a few options, both in the way we play and personnel. It’s fair to say you’ll see a couple of changes.”

It’s the last opportunity for some players to stake their claims for World Cup selection ahead of next week’s squad announcement for the global showpiece in France.

Saturday 5th August
NZ v Aus
Forsyth Stadium

At
03:35 UK time
04:45 SA time
14:35 NZT

Ymx wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:27 pm Saturday 5th August
NZ v Aus
Forsyth Stadium

At
03:35 UK time
04:45 SA time
14:35 NZT

Afternoon test. Love watching at that time in 1981.

Sards wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:41 pm " I am not sure but this seems to be the most unorganized and uncertain time that SA Rugby has been in prior to a RWC "
Found this.

On reflection.
Do any of the Saffers feel we have a realistic chance of winning this.
Is anyone comfortable with our preparation and coaching.
Let's be honest. We have some serious talent at our disposal . But are we going to see the best out of them.
We are Ireland's bitches currently. Can we realistically beat them. We are France's bitches. Do we have a plan to beat them that you can see. The ABs made us look like a school team. Can we realistically beat them in the next few years.

Boet, that's a bit too much honesty asked for. The saffers here usually are not that good in objectiveness. Expect the usual chest thumping

boere wors wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:23 pm

Sards wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:41 pm " I am not sure but this seems to be the most unorganized and uncertain time that SA Rugby has been in prior to a RWC "
Found this.

On reflection.
Do any of the Saffers feel we have a realistic chance of winning this.
Is anyone comfortable with our preparation and coaching.
Let's be honest. We have some serious talent at our disposal . But are we going to see the best out of them.
We are Ireland's bitches currently. Can we realistically beat them. We are France's bitches. Do we have a plan to beat them that you can see. The ABs made us look like a school team. Can we realistically beat them in the next few years.

Boet, that's a bit too much honesty asked for. The saffers here usually are not that good in objectiveness. Expect the usual chest thumping

Boerie Roll and Sardy sitting in a tree ...

Rassie always keeps a monkey up his sleeve, you need to trust that monkey more.