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Americans who think they're Irish...

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:19 am
by Niegs
... Frankie's back with another observation! :lol:


Re: Americans who think they're Irish...

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:26 pm
by Blackmac
Probably more Irish than half the players in the current squad. And the same for us.

Re: Americans who think they're Irish...

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:33 pm
by Brazil
Blackmac wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:26 pm Probably more Irish than half the players in the current squad. And the same for us.
Are you usually disappointed in the lack of Irish players in the Scotland squad?

Re: Americans who think they're Irish...

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:36 pm
by Uncle fester
All septics seem to have a backup nationality. Place I worked in Minnesota was full of wannabe Norwegians, Finns and Swedes.

Re: Americans who think they're Irish...

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:54 pm
by Sandstorm
Uncle fester wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:36 pm All septics seem to have a backup nationality. Place I worked in Minnesota was full of wannabe Norwegians, Finns and Swedes.
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Re: Americans who think they're Irish...

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 2:44 pm
by Niegs
Uncle fester wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:36 pm All septics seem to have a backup nationality. Place I worked in Minnesota was full of wannabe Norwegians, Finns and Swedes.
Yes, a little bit of that up here, too. They will definitely list the ethnicities of grandparents, at least ... but NEVER if English/Protestant! :lolno:

Re: Americans who think they're Irish...

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 2:49 pm
by Paddington Bear
Niegs wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 2:44 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:36 pm All septics seem to have a backup nationality. Place I worked in Minnesota was full of wannabe Norwegians, Finns and Swedes.
Yes, a little bit of that up here, too. They will definitely list the ethnicities of grandparents, at least ... but NEVER if English/Protestant! :lolno:
It’s fascinating isn’t it - the US probably was last majority British descent (among white people) before the American Civil War? And yet still British ancestry is the ‘standard’ from which people deviate.

Re: Americans who think they're Irish...

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:56 pm
by yermum
Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 2:49 pm
Niegs wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 2:44 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:36 pm All septics seem to have a backup nationality. Place I worked in Minnesota was full of wannabe Norwegians, Finns and Swedes.
Yes, a little bit of that up here, too. They will definitely list the ethnicities of grandparents, at least ... but NEVER if English/Protestant! :lolno:
It’s fascinating isn’t it - the US probably was last majority British descent (among white people) before the American Civil War? And yet still British ancestry is the ‘standard’ from which people deviate.
Germans were the largest immigrant group between 1840-80
In 1790 they were about 10% of the population

Re: Americans who think they're Irish...

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:31 pm
by bogbunny
Niegs wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 2:44 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:36 pm All septics seem to have a backup nationality. Place I worked in Minnesota was full of wannabe Norwegians, Finns and Swedes.
Yes, a little bit of that up here, too. They will definitely list the ethnicities of grandparents, at least ... but NEVER if English/Protestant! :lolno:
Scots Irish Presbyterian are prods

Re: Americans who think they're Irish...

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 7:31 pm
by Sandstorm
yermum wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:56 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 2:49 pm
Niegs wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 2:44 pm

Yes, a little bit of that up here, too. They will definitely list the ethnicities of grandparents, at least ... but NEVER if English/Protestant! :lolno:
It’s fascinating isn’t it - the US probably was last majority British descent (among white people) before the American Civil War? And yet still British ancestry is the ‘standard’ from which people deviate.
Germans were the largest immigrant group between 1840-80
In 1790 they were about 10% of the population
Krauts love a little trip to get some more land for themselves.

Re: Americans who think they're Irish...

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 12:47 pm
by Paddington Bear
yermum wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:56 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 2:49 pm
Niegs wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 2:44 pm

Yes, a little bit of that up here, too. They will definitely list the ethnicities of grandparents, at least ... but NEVER if English/Protestant! :lolno:
It’s fascinating isn’t it - the US probably was last majority British descent (among white people) before the American Civil War? And yet still British ancestry is the ‘standard’ from which people deviate.
Germans were the largest immigrant group between 1840-80
In 1790 they were about 10% of the population
A lot of the Hessians who fought for the crown stayed on in America after the war interestingly.

Germans made a perhaps not unsurprising effort to minimise their ancestry in the early 20th century, though America always feels quite ‘German’ to me in strange ways which I guess is their influence

Re: Americans who think they're Irish...

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 12:53 pm
by Uncle fester
Niegs wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 2:44 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:36 pm All septics seem to have a backup nationality. Place I worked in Minnesota was full of wannabe Norwegians, Finns and Swedes.
Yes, a little bit of that up here, too. They will definitely list the ethnicities of grandparents, at least ... but NEVER if English/Protestant! :lolno:
The Minnesotans don't really wave their Irish heritage either. I had one of those "you couldn't write it" moments in a house party where the music stopped at the exact moment when I said "sure a quarter of you are Irish" to a wannabe Norwegian.

There was a very awkward silence in the garden after that.

Nice people but there's a silent streak of prejudice with them. Witness the difficulties East Africans have had integrating there.

Re: Americans who think they're Irish...

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:07 pm
by Niegs
yermum wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:56 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 2:49 pm
Niegs wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 2:44 pm

Yes, a little bit of that up here, too. They will definitely list the ethnicities of grandparents, at least ... but NEVER if English/Protestant! :lolno:
It’s fascinating isn’t it - the US probably was last majority British descent (among white people) before the American Civil War? And yet still British ancestry is the ‘standard’ from which people deviate.
Germans were the largest immigrant group between 1840-80
In 1790 they were about 10% of the population
A whole heap when you think of famous names...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_Americans

Re: Americans who think they're Irish...

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 3:40 pm
by Zig
Irish Americans put more effort into Irish culture than most Irish born people, who usually adopt American culture.