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Posted: **Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:11 pm**

https://www.world.rugby/news/590670/sta ... -2023-draw

World Rugby and the France 2023 Organising Committee have announced that the Palais Brongniart in Paris will host the Rugby World Cup 2023 Draw. The Draw will be pushed back from the previously announced date by two weeks to 14 December 2020 owing to the ongoing impact of the Covid-19 pandemic on rugby and event hosting activities.

Acknowledging the global COVID-19 impact on international rugby in 2020, with some teams not playing this year, and to be fair to all qualified teams, the Rugby World Cup Board has decided that the World Rugby rankings as of 1 January 2020 will be used to determine the five bands. This represents the fairest scenario given it was the last time that all teams were able to play.

Band 1: South Africa, New Zealand, England, Wales
Band 2: Ireland, Australia, France, Japan
Band 3: Scotland, Argentina, Fiji, Italy
Band 4: Oceania 1, Europe 1, Americas 1, Asia / Pacific 1
Band 5: Africa 1, Europe 2, Americas 2, Final Qualifier Winner

Posted: **Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:21 pm**

Will SA once again be granted the golden armchair?

Despite losing a pool game, they will shit their way to a piss easy finals draw taking on a tired as fuck side in the grand final?

Not that I'm bitter or nuffink.

Posted: **Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:27 pm**

To be fair, we can't complain about the fact that they are comfortably better than 90% of the other teams.

If the only team who can consistently trouble them are NZ, then pretty much any journey to the final will be an armchair ride.

Posted: **Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:43 pm**

SA had a pretty major physical battle in the semi final and went up a notch further in the final against the second most physical side in the tournament.

Posted: **Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:48 pm**

Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:21 pm Will SA once again be granted the golden armchair?

Despite losing a pool game, they will shit their way to a piss easy finals draw taking on a tired as fuck side in the grand final?

Not that I'm bitter or nuffink.

Yawn.

Posted: **Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:04 pm**

I think the best thing for World Rugby in 2023 is if NZ again fail to win another semi final.

Posted: **Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:32 pm**

Nobody going to mention Wales in tier 1 then? Just askin.

Posted: **Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:49 pm**

Sandstorm wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:04 pm I think the best thing for World Rugby in 2023 is if NZ again fail to win quarterfinal.

Fixed it for you

Posted: **Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:56 pm**

Akkerman wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:11 pm https://www.world.rugby/news/590670/sta ... -2023-draw

World Rugby and the France 2023 Organising Committee have announced that the Palais Brongniart in Paris will host the Rugby World Cup 2023 Draw. The Draw will be pushed back from the previously announced date by two weeks to 14 December 2020 owing to the ongoing impact of the Covid-19 pandemic on rugby and event hosting activities.

Acknowledging the global COVID-19 impact on international rugby in 2020, with some teams not playing this year, and to be fair to all qualified teams, the Rugby World Cup Board has decided that the World Rugby rankings as of 1 January 2020 will be used to determine the five bands. This represents the fairest scenario given it was the last time that all teams were able to play.

Band 1: South Africa, New Zealand, England, Wales
Band 2: Ireland, Australia, France, Japan
Band 3: Scotland, Argentina, Fiji, Italy
Band 4: Oceania 1, Europe 1, Americas 1, Asia / Pacific 1
Band 5: Africa 1, Europe 2, Americas 2, Final Qualifier Winner

Is it 1st April?

1st January wasn't the last time everyone could play. We still had most of the 6N for goodness' sake, and the SH were sure as hell not prevented from playing any earlier than Ireland, say.

The main effect, of course, is to push Scotland down into pot 3 and Japan up. How convenient.

The Scots will clearly find themselves in a pot with NZ and France-at-home. They'd do well to make it through that... Then again, there could be Wales and one of the others. That'd be kinder.

But seriously, WorldRugby. These seedings are always based on rankings fixed far too early. And these are almost a year earlier!

Posted: **Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:57 pm**

It will be good to have an amateur World Cup again.

#Covidwinsagain

Posted: **Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:05 pm**

charltom wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:56 pm
Akkerman wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:11 pm https://www.world.rugby/news/590670/sta ... -2023-draw

World Rugby and the France 2023 Organising Committee have announced that the Palais Brongniart in Paris will host the Rugby World Cup 2023 Draw. The Draw will be pushed back from the previously announced date by two weeks to 14 December 2020 owing to the ongoing impact of the Covid-19 pandemic on rugby and event hosting activities.

Acknowledging the global COVID-19 impact on international rugby in 2020, with some teams not playing this year, and to be fair to all qualified teams, the Rugby World Cup Board has decided that the World Rugby rankings as of 1 January 2020 will be used to determine the five bands. This represents the fairest scenario given it was the last time that all teams were able to play.

Band 1: South Africa, New Zealand, England, Wales
Band 2: Ireland, Australia, France, Japan
Band 3: Scotland, Argentina, Fiji, Italy
Band 4: Oceania 1, Europe 1, Americas 1, Asia / Pacific 1
Band 5: Africa 1, Europe 2, Americas 2, Final Qualifier Winner

Is it 1st April?

1st January wasn't the last time everyone could play. We still had most of the 6N for goodness' sake, and the SH were sure as hell not prevented from playing any earlier than Ireland, say.

The main effect, of course, is to push Scotland down into pot 3 and Japan up. How convenient.

The Scots will clearly find themselves in a pot with NZ and France-at-home. They'd do well to make it through that... Then again, there could be Wales and one of the others. That'd be kinder.

But seriously, WorldRugby. These seedings are always based on rankings fixed far too early. And these are almost a year earlier!

As a Scot, I'd like another shot at Japan, that was a cracker of a tournament game and a deserved win for Japan.

I'd like the opportunity to settle the account.

Posted: **Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:23 pm**

Aye agreed. Pity they shat out of the 8N due to a wee cold.

Posted: **Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:51 am**

Last opportunity to put the boot into the SRU over Hagibis. And they don’t disappoint.

Posted: **Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:33 am**

Un Pilier wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:32 pm Nobody going to mention Wales in tier 1 then? Just askin.

Well, yeah

Posted: **Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:40 am**

Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:21 pm Will SA once again be granted the golden armchair?

Despite losing a pool game, they will shit their way to a piss easy finals draw taking on a tired as fuck side in the grand final?

Not that I'm bitter or nuffink.

Which tired team are you referring to?

Posted: **Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:44 am**

Wales, Japan, Europe 1, Americas 2 please.

Posted: **Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:43 am**

Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:21 pm Will SA once again be granted the golden armchair?

Despite losing a pool game, they will shit their way to a piss easy finals draw taking on a tired as fuck side in the grand final?

Not that I'm bitter or nuffink.

Obviously not.

Posted: **Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:42 pm**

Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:21 pm Will SA once again be granted the golden armchair?

Despite losing a pool game, they will shit their way to a piss easy finals draw taking on a tired as fuck side in the grand final?

Not that I'm bitter or nuffink.

Hey I completely agree with you. Getting England in the finals is great....

Posted: **Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:57 am**

Akkerman wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:11 pm https://www.world.rugby/news/590670/sta ... -2023-draw

World Rugby and the France 2023 Organising Committee have announced that the Palais Brongniart in Paris will host the Rugby World Cup 2023 Draw. The Draw will be pushed back from the previously announced date by two weeks to 14 December 2020 owing to the ongoing impact of the Covid-19 pandemic on rugby and event hosting activities.

Acknowledging the global COVID-19 impact on international rugby in 2020, with some teams not playing this year, and to be fair to all qualified teams, the Rugby World Cup Board has decided that the World Rugby rankings as of 1 January 2020 will be used to determine the five bands. This represents the fairest scenario given it was the last time that all teams were able to play.

Band 1: South Africa, New Zealand, England, Wales
Band 2: Ireland, Australia, France, Japan
Band 3: Scotland, Argentina, Fiji, Italy
Band 4: Oceania 1, Europe 1, Americas 1, Asia / Pacific 1
Band 5: Africa 1, Europe 2, Americas 2, Final Qualifier Winner

They spelt Namibia wrong.

Posted: **Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:23 am**

So band 4 will be Samoa, Tonga, Georgia and USA, in all likelihood. I don't see any teams that challenge in those regions. Although the same quick decline that happened in Canada could happen to the USA as well, of course, bringing Canada back into the fray..

Hoping for some new blood in band 5 - Brazil from the Americas possibly the best shout? Europe 2 currently looks like a battle between Spain and Portugal. Would be lovely if the likes of Belgium or The Netherlands could challenge but it's too early for the Dutch probably and too late for the Belgians.

Stupidly early for a draw anyway.

Posted: **Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:20 am**

Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:21 pm Will SA once again be granted the golden armchair?

Despite losing a pool game, they will shit their way to a piss easy finals draw taking on a tired as fuck side in the grand final?

Not that I'm bitter or nuffink.

I'm kind of sure England played 1 game less than us.

Posted: **Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:08 pm**

SA were lucky as fuck to beat Wales in the Semi.

Posted: **Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:01 pm**

Enzedder wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:57 pm It will be good to have an amateur World Cup again.

#Covidwinsagain

Gold watches for the refs cheaper than cup winner's prize money!

Posted: **Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:06 pm**

C69 wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:08 pm SA were lucky as fuck to beat Wales in the Semi.

Just toying with you lot for the crowds.

Posted: **Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:24 am**

C69 wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:08 pm SA were lucky as fuck to beat Wales in the Semi.

Or....we used that match to lull England into a false sense of security.

Posted: **Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:42 am**

C69 wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:08 pm SA were lucky as fuck to beat Wales in the Semi.

Wales were lucky as fuck to beat France in the quarters.

Posted: **Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:31 am**

OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:42 am
C69 wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:08 pm SA were lucky as fuck to beat Wales in the Semi.
Wales were lucky as fuck to beat France in the quarters.

Wales? Fok they were lucky not to face Japan in the quarters.

Posted: **Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:04 am**

Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:21 pm Not that I'm bitter or nuffink.

3 Bronze medals is something to be proud of, no other nation has more

Posted: **Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:44 pm**

average joe wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:31 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:42 am
C69 wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:08 pm SA were lucky as fuck to beat Wales in the Semi.
Wales were lucky as fuck to beat France in the quarters.
Wales? Fok they were lucky not to face Japan in the quarters.

We're not Scotland you know

Posted: **Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:47 pm**

Insane_Homer wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:04 am
Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:21 pm Not that I'm bitter or nuffink.
3 Bronze medals is something to be proud of, no other nation has more

Congratulations NZ

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:28 am**

frodder wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:44 pm
average joe wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:31 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:42 am
Wales were lucky as fuck to beat France in the quarters.
Wales? Fok they were lucky not to face Japan in the quarters.
We're not Scotland you know

Be honest, you were shaking in your boots after the brave blossoms demolished Samoa, Ireland and Scotland. There was such a huge fokon sigh of relief emitting from Wales when you realized you wont need to face them, the whole world heard it. It was like the world let out a huge drawn out fart.

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:59 am**

Akkerman wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:11 pm https://www.world.rugby/news/590670/sta ... -2023-draw

World Rugby and the France 2023 Organising Committee have announced that the Palais Brongniart in Paris will host the Rugby World Cup 2023 Draw. The Draw will be pushed back from the previously announced date by two weeks to 14 December 2020 owing to the ongoing impact of the Covid-19 pandemic on rugby and event hosting activities.

Acknowledging the global COVID-19 impact on international rugby in 2020, with some teams not playing this year, and to be fair to all qualified teams, the Rugby World Cup Board has decided that the World Rugby rankings as of 1 January 2020 will be used to determine the five bands. This represents the fairest scenario given it was the last time that all teams were able to play.

Band 1: South Africa, New Zealand, England, Wales
Band 2: Ireland, Australia, France, Japan
Band 3: Scotland, Argentina, Fiji, Italy
Band 4: Oceania 1, Europe 1, Americas 1, Asia / Pacific 1
Band 5: Africa 1, Europe 2, Americas 2, Final Qualifier Winner

A group with wales Ireland Scotland Georgia + minnow would be fun from an English point of view

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:10 am**

Only 3 teams can win, realistically. Just call the whole thing off and make it a tournament between SA, France, and England.

Posted: **Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:26 pm**

Zimbabwe beat the Netherlands 30-7 on the weekend.

Qualifiers begin on the weekend: https://www.rugbyworldcup.com/2023/qualifiers/africa

Posted: **Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:55 pm**

Lemoentjie wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:10 am Only 3 teams can win, realistically. Just call the whole thing off and make it a tournament between SA, France, and England.

I guess you're fishing for Irish outrage?

Posted: **Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:53 pm**

TheFrog wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:55 pm
Lemoentjie wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:10 am Only 3 teams can win, realistically. Just call the whole thing off and make it a tournament between SA, France, and England.
I guess you're fishing for Irish outrage?

That was 2 years ago.

Posted: **Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:26 pm**

OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:53 pm
TheFrog wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:55 pm
Lemoentjie wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:10 am Only 3 teams can win, realistically. Just call the whole thing off and make it a tournament between SA, France, and England.
I guess you're fishing for Irish outrage?
That was 2 years ago.

Still.

Posted: **Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:45 pm**

Akkerman wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:11 pm https://www.world.rugby/news/590670/sta ... -2023-draw

World Rugby and the France 2023 Organising Committee have announced that the Palais Brongniart in Paris will host the Rugby World Cup 2023 Draw. The Draw will be pushed back from the previously announced date by two weeks to 14 December 2020 owing to the ongoing impact of the Covid-19 pandemic on rugby and event hosting activities.

Acknowledging the global COVID-19 impact on international rugby in 2020, with some teams not playing this year, and to be fair to all qualified teams, the Rugby World Cup Board has decided that the World Rugby rankings as of 1 January 2020 will be used to determine the five bands. This represents the fairest scenario given it was the last time that all teams were able to play.

Band 1: South Africa, New Zealand, England, Wales
Band 2: Ireland, Australia, France, Japan
Band 3: Scotland, Argentina, Fiji, Italy
Band 4: Oceania 1, Europe 1, Americas 1, Asia / Pacific 1
Band 5: Africa 1, Europe 2, Americas 2, Final Qualifier Winner

Current world rankings would give us

Band 1 South Africa France New Zealand Ireland
Band 2 England Australia Scotland Argentina
Band 3 Wales Japan Fiji Italy

And assuming the draw went exactly the same way, the groups would be

France Scotland Italy Uruguay Africa 1
South Africa England Wales Asia Pac 1 Romania
Ireland Australia Fiji Georgia Repechage
New Zealand Argentina Japan Samoa Americas 2

I think that’s a better draw.

Posted: **Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:55 am**

Biffer wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:45 pm
Akkerman wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:11 pm https://www.world.rugby/news/590670/sta ... -2023-draw

World Rugby and the France 2023 Organising Committee have announced that the Palais Brongniart in Paris will host the Rugby World Cup 2023 Draw. The Draw will be pushed back from the previously announced date by two weeks to 14 December 2020 owing to the ongoing impact of the Covid-19 pandemic on rugby and event hosting activities.

Acknowledging the global COVID-19 impact on international rugby in 2020, with some teams not playing this year, and to be fair to all qualified teams, the Rugby World Cup Board has decided that the World Rugby rankings as of 1 January 2020 will be used to determine the five bands. This represents the fairest scenario given it was the last time that all teams were able to play.

Band 1: South Africa, New Zealand, England, Wales
Band 2: Ireland, Australia, France, Japan
Band 3: Scotland, Argentina, Fiji, Italy
Band 4: Oceania 1, Europe 1, Americas 1, Asia / Pacific 1
Band 5: Africa 1, Europe 2, Americas 2, Final Qualifier Winner

Current world rankings would give us

Band 1 South Africa France New Zealand Ireland
Band 2 England Australia Scotland Argentina
Band 3 Wales Japan Fiji Italy

And assuming the draw went exactly the same way, the groups would be

France Scotland Italy Uruguay Africa 1
South Africa England Wales Asia Pac 1 Romania
Ireland Australia Fiji Georgia Repechage
New Zealand Argentina Japan Samoa Americas 2

I think that’s a better draw.

Lol

Posted: **Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:19 am**

assfly wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:26 pm Zimbabwe beat the Netherlands 30-7 on the weekend.

Qualifiers begin on the weekend: https://www.rugbyworldcup.com/2023/qualifiers/africa

Wonder if anyone can put up a winning challenge to Namibia this time, NAM often have had some home advantage but in neutral territory perhaps things will even up a bit

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