So, coronavirus...

[Biffer]

520k pinged and have to self isolate in the UK last week, Nissan has 10% of its workforce self isolating. The NHS is struggling and closing beds due to the lack of staff for the same reason. This is what happens when the Blonde Bumblecunt decides the pandemic is over, throw away our masks and we can all have Freedom Day. The idea we can get back to normal when we have increasing numbers of cases and self isolating is just a nonsense, it is a huge drain on the economy. Having covid19 rampaging through the population unchecked will do the economy more harm than good. No doubt the answer the Blonde Bumblecunt will come up with will be to 'amend' the app to stop this happening rather than actually dealing with the root cause. Not surprised that many young folk are deleting the app as they can't afford or don't want to be isolating. Who knew this was going to happen ...

It'll be the public's fault for not being vaccinated, not wanting to catch covid, not spending their money to make sure businessman can still make profits, and wanting to keep their families safe. It's not Johnson's fault, honest.

[Saint]

520k pinged and have to self isolate in the UK last week, Nissan has 10% of its workforce self isolating. The NHS is struggling and closing beds due to the lack of staff for the same reason. This is what happens when the Blonde Bumblecunt decides the pandemic is over, throw away our masks and we can all have Freedom Day. The idea we can get back to normal when we have increasing numbers of cases and self isolating is just a nonsense, it is a huge drain on the economy. Having covid19 rampaging through the population unchecked will do the economy more harm than good. No doubt the answer the Blonde Bumblecunt will come up with will be to 'amend' the app to stop this happening rather than actually dealing with the root cause. Not surprised that many young folk are deleting the app as they can't afford or don't want to be isolating. Who knew this was going to happen ...

So you're advocating we move back to Stage 2?

[ScarfaceClaw]

520k pinged and have to self isolate in the UK last week, Nissan has 10% of its workforce self isolating. The NHS is struggling and closing beds due to the lack of staff for the same reason. This is what happens when the Blonde Bumblecunt decides the pandemic is over, throw away our masks and we can all have Freedom Day. The idea we can get back to normal when we have increasing numbers of cases and self isolating is just a nonsense, it is a huge drain on the economy. Having covid19 rampaging through the population unchecked will do the economy more harm than good. No doubt the answer the Blonde Bumblecunt will come up with will be to 'amend' the app to stop this happening rather than actually dealing with the root cause. Not surprised that many young folk are deleting the app as they can't afford or don't want to be isolating. Who knew this was going to happen ...

So you're advocating we move back to Stage 2?

All bumblecunt has done is abdicated any responsibility to businesses, travel companies and the public. Our work is trying to go through the implications of the guidance they’ve been given. “Suggest that masks be used”, “maintain social distancing”. It’s a total shit show. Social distancing means limited building occupancy. Since it is only a suggestion then if they go with the all in approach then there are going to be people who will not be comfortable with that. And then if the track and trace pings half the building then we’re all out again.

[SaintK]

520k pinged and have to self isolate in the UK last week, Nissan has 10% of its workforce self isolating. The NHS is struggling and closing beds due to the lack of staff for the same reason. This is what happens when the Blonde Bumblecunt decides the pandemic is over, throw away our masks and we can all have Freedom Day. The idea we can get back to normal when we have increasing numbers of cases and self isolating is just a nonsense, it is a huge drain on the economy. Having covid19 rampaging through the population unchecked will do the economy more harm than good. No doubt the answer the Blonde Bumblecunt will come up with will be to 'amend' the app to stop this happening rather than actually dealing with the root cause. Not surprised that many young folk are deleting the app as they can't afford or don't want to be isolating. Who knew this was going to happen ...

So you're advocating we move back to Stage 2?

All bumblecunt has done is abdicated any responsibility to businesses, travel companies and the public. Our work is trying to go through the implications of the guidance they’ve been given. “Suggest that masks be used”, “maintain social distancing”. It’s a total shit show. Social distancing means limited building occupancy. Since it is only a suggestion then if they go with the all in approach then there are going to be people who will not be comfortable with that. And then if the track and trace pings half the building then we’re all out again.

Doesn't begin to describe it!!!

[Saint]

Johnson aside, it's a genuine question that needs resolving. If things are already going wrong while we're still in Stage 3, then you can't be saying we should stay in Stage 3 - you're arguing that this is already unmanageable. So we need to move back to Stage 2?

[Sandstorm]

Johnson aside, it's a genuine question that needs resolving. If things are already going wrong while we're still in Stage 3, then you can't be saying we should stay in Stage 3 - you're arguing that this is already unmanageable. So we need to move back to Stage 2?

Stage version isn’t important. It’s people’s behaviour that has changed so much in the last 6 weeks. It’s like Covid is harmless now.

[fishfoodie]

Johnson aside, it's a genuine question that needs resolving. If things are already going wrong while we're still in Stage 3, then you can't be saying we should stay in Stage 3 - you're arguing that this is already unmanageable. So we need to move back to Stage 2?

If you'd a properly functioning T&T system for the last year, there should be mountains of data telling you exactly where infections are happening, & that should inform the policy.

So instead of going from Stage 3 to Stage 2; you go to Stage 2.9, where outdoor sporting venues can operate at 25% capacity, & restaurants > x sqft, can operate at 50% capacity etc, etc. You might have to go thru a series of stepped unlocks; but at least you can show people a path, & rationalize to them why, & give them a carrot for being responsible, with the promise of more improvements to everyones quality of life, if they do a few simple things.

But this requires planning, & application; & the bumblecunt has neither; & has a bunch of incompetent cunts to his cabinet, so he doesn't look too bad by comparison. He just wants to do a Picard; & say; "make it so", & just have the hard work go away.

[Saint]

Johnson aside, it's a genuine question that needs resolving. If things are already going wrong while we're still in Stage 3, then you can't be saying we should stay in Stage 3 - you're arguing that this is already unmanageable. So we need to move back to Stage 2?

Stage version isn’t important. It’s people’s behaviour that has changed so much in the last 6 weeks. It’s like Covid is harmless now.

The general concept is. Either things we lock down to reduce numbers (by changing behaviour) or we unlock. Staying where we are won't actually achieve anything

[Saint]

Johnson aside, it's a genuine question that needs resolving. If things are already going wrong while we're still in Stage 3, then you can't be saying we should stay in Stage 3 - you're arguing that this is already unmanageable. So we need to move back to Stage 2?

If you'd a properly functioning T&T system for the last year, there should be mountains of data telling you exactly where infections are happening, & that should inform the policy.

So instead of going from Stage 3 to Stage 2; you go to Stage 2.9, where outdoor sporting venues can operate at 25% capacity, & restaurants > x sqft, can operate at 50% capacity etc, etc. You might have to go thru a series of stepped unlocks; but at least you can show people a path, & rationalize to them why, & give them a carrot for being responsible, with the promise of more improvements to everyones quality of life, if they do a few simple things.

But this requires planning, & application; & the bumblecunt has neither; & has a bunch of incompetent cunts to his cabinet, so he doesn't look too bad by comparison. He just wants to do a Picard; & say; "make it so", & just have the hard work go away.

You're kidding yourself if you think people would follow that. It doesn't matter how much evidence, pathway, or anything you present, people will simply not follow any longer.

BTW - we have "mountains of data" on locations, demographic, and virtually everything else there is to know about this virus. But the one thing we don't have even from the genuine experts is agreement about what any of it actually means.

[Sandstorm]

Johnson aside, it's a genuine question that needs resolving. If things are already going wrong while we're still in Stage 3, then you can't be saying we should stay in Stage 3 - you're arguing that this is already unmanageable. So we need to move back to Stage 2?

Stage version isn’t important. It’s people’s behaviour that has changed so much in the last 6 weeks. It’s like Covid is harmless now.

The general concept is. Either things we lock down to reduce numbers (by changing behaviour) or we unlock. Staying where we are won't actually achieve anything

We could vaccinate everyone from 1-99 years old.

[Saint]

Stage version isn’t important. It’s people’s behaviour that has changed so much in the last 6 weeks. It’s like Covid is harmless now.

The general concept is. Either things we lock down to reduce numbers (by changing behaviour) or we unlock. Staying where we are won't actually achieve anything

We could vaccinate everyone from 1-99 years old.

on the whole I'd like to wait for a vaccine to be approved for 1-12 year olds before we even start getting into the ethics of that activity. Why not decide the12+ issue first?

[Sandstorm]

The general concept is. Either things we lock down to reduce numbers (by changing behaviour) or we unlock. Staying where we are won't actually achieve anything

We could vaccinate everyone from 1-99 years old.

on the whole I'd like to wait for a vaccine to be approved for 1-12 year olds before we even start getting into the ethics of that activity. Why not decide the12+ issue first?

Jab kids in any order you like. Just get started please.

[dpedin]

We could vaccinate everyone from 1-99 years old.

on the whole I'd like to wait for a vaccine to be approved for 1-12 year olds before we even start getting into the ethics of that activity. Why not decide the12+ issue first?

Jab kids in any order you like. Just get started please.

Lets be quite clear the Blonde Bumblecunt has decided to go full on herd immunity by community transmission and infection and therefore has decided to strip away even the basics of public health mitigation measures such as mask wearing, to achieve this. He wants it done asap as he is shitting himself of another covid wave in autumn/winter, which according to the modelling I have seen is now highly likely, and coupled with a flu/respiratory virus/RSV in kids might overwhelm the NHS and necessitate another partial lock down, something which he feels is undesirable politically and something he has promised previously he wouldn't do. He is under pressure by the 1922 Committee and Brexit right wing ultras to have 'Freedom Day' and needs their ongoing support. We have a covid variant that is transmissible via aerosol and is many times more transmissible than the original variant, with an R number of over 7. We also know that 10-20% of those who have been double jabbed can still contract it, although are less likely to be hospitalised or die but some will, and they can also transmit it asymptomatically. We also know that c40% of the pop, mostly young folk have not been fully vaccinated if at all. He has gambled that the impact on these young or compromised folk will be minimal and won't threaten the NHS. He is not concerned about letting them get infected by a virus for which we don't really know the longer term health impacts, he lives in the here and now and will find someone else to blame for long covid later, probably the scientists or the NHS. There is no PH plan, it is a fingers crossed plan driven by political expediency. The WHO have called it the equivalent epidemiological stupidity.

The Blonde Bumblecunt has essentially abdicated all responsibility for the safety and public health of the nation, something which I think is a primary responsibility of any Government. He could have slowed down the relaxation of restrictions and bought more time by using mitigations, such as mask wearing, social distancing etc, got TT&T working properly, beefed up local PH teams even more to buy time in order to achieve herd immunity via vaccination. He has in effect told folk they can do what they want from next week and transferred the burden of responsibility onto organisations and individuals, many of whom are ill equipped to understand or deal with covid, and the only thing that will happen is chaos. The messaging from him and his cabinet colleagues has been awful, confused and downright criminal.

[dpedin]

The Spanish Flu pandemic had 4 major waves and lasted 2 years. As one historian who studied Spanish Flu has said, 'The main lesson from the past, is that any measure before the pandemic that was described as exaggerated [is] later considered insufficient.'

[Biffer]

The Spanish Flu pandemic had 4 major waves and lasted 2 years. As one historian who studied Spanish Flu has said, 'The main lesson from the past, is that any measure before the pandemic that was described as exaggerated [is] later considered insufficient.'

The Russian Flu thirty years before had waves for six years. Some researchers believe it wasn't flu, but a coronavirus (oc43). So it might be firing up for more than a couple of years.

In the bright side oc43 is now just considered as one of the viruses that gives you a cold.

[Sandstorm]

The Spanish Flu pandemic had 4 major waves and lasted 2 years. As one historian who studied Spanish Flu has said, 'The main lesson from the past, is that any measure before the pandemic that was described as exaggerated [is] later considered insufficient.'

The Russian Flu thirty years before had waves for six years. Some researchers believe it wasn't flu, but a coronavirus (oc43). So it might be firing up for more than a couple of years.

In the bright side oc43 is now just considered as one of the viruses that gives you a cold.

Interesting. With the world's population being 7 times larger than in 1890 and about 5000 times more loony, I think Covid19 is going to have a grand time for several more years yet.

[Biffer]

The Spanish Flu pandemic had 4 major waves and lasted 2 years. As one historian who studied Spanish Flu has said, 'The main lesson from the past, is that any measure before the pandemic that was described as exaggerated [is] later considered insufficient.'

The Russian Flu thirty years before had waves for six years. Some researchers believe it wasn't flu, but a coronavirus (oc43). So it might be firing up for more than a couple of years.

In the bright side oc43 is now just considered as one of the viruses that gives you a cold.

Interesting. With the world's population being 7 times larger than in 1890 and about 5000 times more loony, I think Covid19 is going to have a grand time for several more years yet.

Maybe. Although you could equally validly take the view that increased travel, more linkages within and between countries and larger population might actually shorten the timeframe (waves come more quickly due to more connections, evolution to a less harmful state happens more quickly as higher population means faster evolution). We don't really know one way or the other.

[Sandstorm]

evolution to a less harmful state happens more quickly

I hope so, but it's looking less likely unfortunately. Delta is more infectious than Alpha/Beta versions and the next one could be more deadly too.

I hope like hell the rocket surgeons are working on brand new variant boosters.

[Raggs]

There's little reason for a virus to naturally become less deadly for no outside reason.

There are of course reasons, such as greater pressure on a population to actually do something about it, the more deadly it is. It's why Sars never got too serious, and why a lot of eastern nations did much better than western (due to fear of a repeat of sars).

[Calculon]

More deadly will generally lead to a virus being less infectious simply cos it will kill its host before it infects too many other hosts. Sars cov 2 is very successful at infecting people so I don't think there is much evolutionary pressure on it to have a lower mortality rate.

AFAIK one of the major reasons, speculated at least, for sars cov 1 not becoming a global pandemic is that the host is not really infections when they are asymptotic, in contrast with sars cov 2

[Raggs]

More deadly will generally lead to a virus being less infectious simply cos it will kill its host before it infects too many other hosts. Sars cov 2 is very successful at infecting people so I don't think there is much evolutionary pressure on it to have a lower mortality rate.

AFAIK one of the major reasons, speculated at least, for sars cov 1 not becoming a global pandemic is that the host is not really infections when they are asymptotic, in contrast with sars cov 2

If it kills and incapacitates swiftly, yes, but we've already seen covid taking months to kill, or permanently maiming people that will die without organ transplants etc. Although we can now control it, HIV was extremely deadly, but often took a very long time to really manifest.

As you point out, covid 19 is far more infectious, and across a range of stages, that's allowed it to spread, and the new variants are only getting faster (I believe delta is also suspected to be more deadly also).

[Calculon]

I think it's more deadly only in the sense that it has a better ability to evade the vaccine so will have a higher mortality rate than the original amongst the vaccinated or those that were infected with original variant. Conversely the original variant should have an far higher overall mortality rate than the delta variant because people have since been vaccinated and/or gained some protection from prior infection.

HIV hasn't infected humans for long but if you look at SIV the reason it's so much less deadly is not evolutionary "pressure" on the virus but rather on the host with monkeys immune systems changing over the millions of years of exposure to SIV.

[Biffer]

More deadly will generally lead to a virus being less infectious simply cos it will kill its host before it infects too many other hosts. Sars cov 2 is very successful at infecting people so I don't think there is much evolutionary pressure on it to have a lower mortality rate.

AFAIK one of the major reasons, speculated at least, for sars cov 1 not becoming a global pandemic is that the host is not really infections when they are asymptotic, in contrast with sars cov 2

If it kills and incapacitates swiftly, yes, but we've already seen covid taking months to kill, or permanently maiming people that will die without organ transplants etc. Although we can now control it, HIV was extremely deadly, but often took a very long time to really manifest.

As you point out, covid 19 is far more infectious, and across a range of stages, that's allowed it to spread, and the new variants are only getting faster (I believe delta is also suspected to be more deadly also).

The most successful viruses are the ones that have no effect on the host. Somewhere between a quarter of the viruses in your gut or up your nose are unknown to science. The most successful strategy for a virus is to replicate and spread without causing any issue to the host - that way the host mixes as normal, doesn't slow down or stay in bed etc. People often make the mistake of thinking that causing illness is the raison d'etre for a virus - it's not, reproducing is. If it can do that without changing host behaviour, all the better.

[Calculon]

However, causing illness which leads the host to sneeze or shit a lot helps the virus by getting it new hosts

Also, can't think of viruses, but certain parasites do change host behaviour which then plays a role in the parasites life cycle and ultimately their ability to spread around. Maybe similar for some viruses?

[Raggs]

More deadly will generally lead to a virus being less infectious simply cos it will kill its host before it infects too many other hosts. Sars cov 2 is very successful at infecting people so I don't think there is much evolutionary pressure on it to have a lower mortality rate.

AFAIK one of the major reasons, speculated at least, for sars cov 1 not becoming a global pandemic is that the host is not really infections when they are asymptotic, in contrast with sars cov 2

If it kills and incapacitates swiftly, yes, but we've already seen covid taking months to kill, or permanently maiming people that will die without organ transplants etc. Although we can now control it, HIV was extremely deadly, but often took a very long time to really manifest.

As you point out, covid 19 is far more infectious, and across a range of stages, that's allowed it to spread, and the new variants are only getting faster (I believe delta is also suspected to be more deadly also).

The most successful viruses are the ones that have no effect on the host. Somewhere between a quarter of the viruses in your gut or up your nose are unknown to science. The most successful strategy for a virus is to replicate and spread without causing any issue to the host - that way the host mixes as normal, doesn't slow down or stay in bed etc. People often make the mistake of thinking that causing illness is the raison d'etre for a virus - it's not, reproducing is. If it can do that without changing host behaviour, all the better.

If we define success by reproduction, perhaps. If defined by total number, perhaps. If defined by longevity, perhaps. If defined by total kills, then something else is "successful". You can define success as you want, the virus has no concept of it.

Yes, the most common viruses are the ones that do little to no harm, because there's then no drive to cure/combat them. But that doesn't mean there's this invisible force that "naturally" pushes viruses to be less harmful. It's all selection *after* the fact.

The virus that becomes more deadly struggles more because it's often selected against, due to changes in behaviour of the host population. Be that quarantine, isolation, or merely just all being wiped out. That doesn't mean that a virus cannot/will not/is less likely to become more deadly, that'll be purely down to how large a change is required to reach that, whether that change is in an important part of the nucleic acid that can effect other aspects etc etc.

Simply put, there is no reason why a more or less deadly covid couldn't evolve. After that point, selection pressures will be placed on it, and determine if it would be more or less successful if defined by total "share" of current particles.

Theoretically, a strain could evolve that is more deadly, spreads faster, and has a large degree of vaccine evasion. To then select against that strain, humanity would once again need to lock down, develop a new vaccine etc etc.

[Uncle fester]

More deadly will generally lead to a virus being less infectious simply cos it will kill its host before it infects too many other hosts. Sars cov 2 is very successful at infecting people so I don't think there is much evolutionary pressure on it to have a lower mortality rate.

AFAIK one of the major reasons, speculated at least, for sars cov 1 not becoming a global pandemic is that the host is not really infections when they are asymptotic, in contrast with sars cov 2

Letting a virus run unimpeded is the best way to help it become more dangerous. If you make it more difficult to transmit, evolutionary pressure means that less dangerous strains will become dominant as sick people will be isolated immediately.

It was the second wave of Spanish flu that did the damage for that very reason. It was left run loose and because there was no selection pressure, a very dangerous form became the dominant strain. Populations were more careful after and subsequent waves were less dangerous.

[Calculon]

Yeah, but the whole point with sars cov 2 is that isolating sick people is far less effective because the virus is still highly transmittable in asymptomatic or pre symptomatic people. Sars cov 1 had a mortiality rate of something like 10%, much higher than sars cov 2, but it only infected 8000 or so people, again because asymptotic transmission wasn’t a thing, so it was indeed easy to isolate sick people and stop transmission

[dpedin]

Sajid Javid tests positive for covid despite having had two jabs - burst out laughing when the news came through! Oh the irony ... I guess his Freedom Day is cancelled for 10 days? Honestly couldn't make this shitshow up!

[dpedin]

Sajid Javid tests positive for covid despite having had two jabs - burst out laughing when the news came through! Oh the irony ... I guess his Freedom Day is cancelled for 10 days? Honestly couldn't make this shitshow up!

I wonder who else in Gov has been pinged because of him being found positive? I'm presuming they all have the app on their own and Gov mobiles?

[Hal Jordan]

Sajid Javid tests positive for covid despite having had two jabs - burst out laughing when the news came through! Oh the irony ... I guess his Freedom Day is cancelled for 10 days? Honestly couldn't make this shitshow up!

I wonder who else in Gov has been pinged because of him being found positive? I'm presuming they all have the app on their own and Gov mobiles?

Probably deleted it to avoid being pinged before tootling off on holibobs to a convenient green list country.

[BnM]

Monday can't happen, shirley.

[tabascoboy]

Monday can't happen, shirley.

Can't help but think even this government knows they need to U-Turn but for many reasons ( e.g. worry over strongly negative press, reaction from the anti lockdown/mask movement, economy before anything else ) they've left it too late now without looking like clueless buffoons - I mean even more than usual - so they are committed to it.

They'll be trying to work out what is the earliest opportunity to revert though I'm sure and working on the spin to say any resulting runaway shitcart is not their fault.

[Uncle fester]

Yeah, but the whole point with sars cov 2 is that isolating sick people is far less effective because the virus is still highly transmittable in asymptomatic or pre symptomatic people. Sars cov 1 had a mortiality rate of something like 10%, much higher than sars cov 2, but it only infected 8000 or so people, again because asymptotic transmission wasn’t a thing, so it was indeed easy to isolate sick people and stop transmission

All the more reason to have sensible precautions like mask wearing, social distancing and perhaps not throwing caution completely to the wind.

[Hal Jordan]

Monday can't happen, shirley.

YOU. HATE. FREEDOM.

A Government and party elected to deliver Brexit (exact details to follow), candidates chosen for their loyalty to the cause rather than their competency, a Prime Minister who wants to be Prime Minister to say he has been but has no interest in actually doing the job, the pandemic seen as nothing more than an opportunity to continue looting the public purse and engaging in culture war bullshit, an Opposition led by an empty suit who seems unable to take the opportunities to put the boot in that are presented time and again, a client media unwilling to question policy (and given no chance in any place) and an electorate distracted and uninterested.

[Sandstorm]

My company:

June 2021

Boss: “Everyone back to work please”
Us: “ But it’s 2 weeks before the official Return to Work date and Government guidance is to work from home if we can successfully”
Boss: “It suits the business, so you will all come in on Monday”


July 2021

Us: “Can we continue to make it a requirement to wear a mask when moving around the office?”
Boss: “We can’t ask people to do that. We are following Government guidance on this issue”

[SaintK]

Monday can't happen, shirley.

YOU. HATE. FREEDOM.

A Government and party elected to deliver Brexit (exact details to follow), candidates chosen for their loyalty to the cause rather than their competency, a Prime Minister who wants to be Prime Minister to say he has been but has no interest in actually doing the job, the pandemic seen as nothing more than an opportunity to continue looting the public purse and engaging in culture war bullshit, an Opposition led by an empty suit who seems unable to take the opportunities to put the boot in that are presented time and again, a client media unwilling to question policy (and given no chance in any place) and an electorate distracted and uninterested.

About sums it up...................unfortunately!!

[fishfoodie]

My company:

June 2021

Boss: “Everyone back to work please”
Us: “ But it’s 2 weeks before the official Return to Work date and Government guidance is to work from home if we can successfully”
Boss: “It suits the business, so you will all come in on Monday”


July 2021

Us: “Can we continue to make it a requirement to wear a mask when moving around the office?”
Boss: “We can’t ask people to do that. We are following Government guidance on this issue”

This is where a little creativity is called for.

Given, I'd say a number of people in your office would feel the same way; perhaps if you took it in turn to; out of an abundance of caution; self-isolate, after feeling a bit of a feverish ?

Then of course, anyone in close contact would; exercising their; common sense; would also, self-isolate; until the first person was able to confirm they weren't a positive case

That should get you thru to September ....

[Dinsdale Piranha]

My company:

June 2021

Boss: “Everyone back to work please”
Us: “ But it’s 2 weeks before the official Return to Work date and Government guidance is to work from home if we can successfully”
Boss: “It suits the business, so you will all come in on Monday”


July 2021

Us: “Can we continue to make it a requirement to wear a mask when moving around the office?”
Boss: “We can’t ask people to do that. We are following Government guidance on this issue”

This is where a little creativity is called for.

Given, I'd say a number of people in your office would feel the same way; perhaps if you took it in turn to; out of an abundance of caution; self-isolate, after feeling a bit of a feverish ?

Then of course, anyone in close contact would; exercising their; common sense; would also, self-isolate; until the first person was able to confirm they weren't a positive case

That should get you thru to September ....

Learn to be as smart as a schoolkid.

https://metro.co.uk/2021/07/01/pupils-u ... -14858148/

[fishfoodie]

My company:

June 2021

Boss: “Everyone back to work please”
Us: “ But it’s 2 weeks before the official Return to Work date and Government guidance is to work from home if we can successfully”
Boss: “It suits the business, so you will all come in on Monday”


July 2021

Us: “Can we continue to make it a requirement to wear a mask when moving around the office?”
Boss: “We can’t ask people to do that. We are following Government guidance on this issue”

This is where a little creativity is called for.

Given, I'd say a number of people in your office would feel the same way; perhaps if you took it in turn to; out of an abundance of caution; self-isolate, after feeling a bit of a feverish ?

Then of course, anyone in close contact would; exercising their; common sense; would also, self-isolate; until the first person was able to confirm they weren't a positive case

That should get you thru to September ....

Learn to be as smart as a schoolkid.

https://metro.co.uk/2021/07/01/pupils-u ... -14858148/

Nice to see good scientific rigor, & experimentation is still being taught !



.... along with how to game the system

[Sandstorm]

Or I could do my usual lateral flow test tonight and log it on the NHS Tracker as positive.

No wait!! Log it AFTER work tomorrow and then everyone else who was in has to isolate too!