So, coronavirus...

[fishfoodie]

Or I could do my usual lateral flow test tonight and log it on the NHS Tracker as positive.

No wait!! Log it AFTER work tomorrow and then everyone else who was in has to isolate too!

Then call your scheme a; "Pilot"

[SaintK]

Or I could do my usual lateral flow test tonight and log it on the NHS Tracker as positive.

No wait!! Log it AFTER work tomorrow and then everyone else who was in has to isolate too!

Then call your scheme a; "Pilot"

Nah, won’t work. He’s not the PM or a cabinet minister

[GogLais]

Or I could do my usual lateral flow test tonight and log it on the NHS Tracker as positive.

No wait!! Log it AFTER work tomorrow and then everyone else who was in has to isolate too!

Then call your scheme a; "Pilot"

Nah, won’t work. He’s not the PM or a cabinet minister

I’ve no problem with the PM or Chancellor having privileges that I don’t in this situation. I don’t have a country to run.

[Slick]

Then call your scheme a; "Pilot"

Nah, won’t work. He’s not the PM or a cabinet minister

I’ve no problem with the PM or Chancellor having privileges that I don’t in this situation. I don’t have a country to run.

Yup, feel much the same

[GogLais]

Nah, won’t work. He’s not the PM or a cabinet minister

I’ve no problem with the PM or Chancellor having privileges that I don’t in this situation. I don’t have a country to run.

Yup, feel much the same

Funnily enough I think opposition to it is - well, populist for want of a better word.

[fishfoodie]

Then call your scheme a; "Pilot"

Nah, won’t work. He’s not the PM or a cabinet minister

I’ve no problem with the PM or Chancellor having privileges that I don’t in this situation. I don’t have a country to run.

Then how do you feel about them all buggering off on holidays for months; when they've just given the country permisson to go nuts ?

[BnM]

[GogLais]

Nah, won’t work. He’s not the PM or a cabinet minister

I’ve no problem with the PM or Chancellor having privileges that I don’t in this situation. I don’t have a country to run.

Then how do you feel about them all buggering off on holidays for months; when they've just given the country permisson to go nuts ?

Because I think the PM is entitled to some privileges that I don’t have doesn’t mean that I have to agree with all his policies or actions.

[fishfoodie]

I’ve no problem with the PM or Chancellor having privileges that I don’t in this situation. I don’t have a country to run.

Then how do you feel about them all buggering off on holidays for months; when they've just given the country permisson to go nuts ?

Because I think the PM is entitled to some privileges that I don’t have doesn’t mean that I have to agree with all his policies or actions.

No; but if the situation is serious enough for him; & his Chancellor, & his Health Minister to cock a snoot at the rules ever other citizen is legally required to follow; so that he, & they can continue face to face meetings .... then surely it is too serious for him, & them; to fuck off on holidays for two months ???

He isn't trying to duck lockdown so he can do face-to-face meetings with scientists & officials; he's doing it, so he can fuck off on Holidays, on another wealth, donor funded jolly !

It's one or the other.

[Slick]

Then how do you feel about them all buggering off on holidays for months; when they've just given the country permisson to go nuts ?

Because I think the PM is entitled to some privileges that I don’t have doesn’t mean that I have to agree with all his policies or actions.

No; but if the situation is serious enough for him; & his Chancellor, & his Health Minister to cock a snoot at the rules ever other citizen is legally required to follow; so that he, & they can continue face to face meetings .... then surely it is too serious for him, & them; to fuck off on holidays for two months ???

He isn't trying to duck lockdown so he can do face-to-face meetings with scientists & officials; he's doing it, so he can fuck off on Holidays, on another wealth, donor funded jolly !

It's one or the other.

What holiday is he going on for 2 months? Genuinely haven’t heard that he is going on holiday for 2 months

[fishfoodie]

Because I think the PM is entitled to some privileges that I don’t have doesn’t mean that I have to agree with all his policies or actions.

No; but if the situation is serious enough for him; & his Chancellor, & his Health Minister to cock a snoot at the rules ever other citizen is legally required to follow; so that he, & they can continue face to face meetings .... then surely it is too serious for him, & them; to fuck off on holidays for two months ???

He isn't trying to duck lockdown so he can do face-to-face meetings with scientists & officials; he's doing it, so he can fuck off on Holidays, on another wealth, donor funded jolly !

It's one or the other.

What holiday is he going on for 2 months? Genuinely haven’t heard that he is going on holiday for 2 months

Sorry; I was being too hard on him; it's only 6 weeks, & 4 days, just like the rest of us get for our summer break

and then he does a massive two weeks work, before they fuck off again for the party conference break; which is another month of scratching their arses.

When will they be fixing the fuckups of the past two years in the schools ?

When will they be putting the Post-Brexit infrastructure they promised the EU ?

When will the "Leveling Up" Agenda be published ?

When will the useless, lazy, fuckers start working ?????

[GogLais]

No; but if the situation is serious enough for him; & his Chancellor, & his Health Minister to cock a snoot at the rules ever other citizen is legally required to follow; so that he, & they can continue face to face meetings .... then surely it is too serious for him, & them; to fuck off on holidays for two months ???

He isn't trying to duck lockdown so he can do face-to-face meetings with scientists & officials; he's doing it, so he can fuck off on Holidays, on another wealth, donor funded jolly !

It's one or the other.

What holiday is he going on for 2 months? Genuinely haven’t heard that he is going on holiday for 2 months

Sorry; I was being too hard on him; it's only 6 weeks, & 4 days, just like the rest of us get for our summer break

and then he does a massive two weeks work, before they fuck off again for the party conference break; which is another month of scratching their arses.

When will they be fixing the fuckups of the past two years in the schools ?

When will they be putting the Post-Brexit infrastructure they promised the EU ?

When will the "Leveling Up" Agenda be published ?

When will the useless, lazy, fuckers start working ?????

They’re the HoC recess dates, doesn’t mean he’s swanning off to the beach somewhere for six weeks.

[Niegs]

Some advice from the Brits (comedy answers welcome from others), if you will...

Before the recent spike, I applied to do a grad course in the UK and was given a conditional acceptance on Friday. Is it a bit mad to go over there in Sept, even with two shots? Or am I getting worked up over naught, so long as I follow all the rules? I've no issue waiting a year, but am also keen to do this program (which is, at the moment anyway, slated to be in-person).

[TheNatalShark]

Some advice from the Brits (comedy answers welcome from others), if you will...

Before the recent spike, I applied to do a grad course in the UK and was given a conditional acceptance on Friday. Is it a bit mad to go over there in Sept, even with two shots? Or am I getting worked up over naught, so long as I follow all the rules? I've no issue waiting a year, but am also keen to do this program (which is, at the moment anyway, slated to be in-person).

I wouldn't see an issue, certainly not describe as mad. We're going to experience the relatively same issues opening up that the rest of the developed world will. You're based in NL? Just apply same rational as if you were considering moving to NL and you would come to materially same answer.

[salanya]

Some advice from the Brits (comedy answers welcome from others), if you will...

Before the recent spike, I applied to do a grad course in the UK and was given a conditional acceptance on Friday. Is it a bit mad to go over there in Sept, even with two shots? Or am I getting worked up over naught, so long as I follow all the rules? I've no issue waiting a year, but am also keen to do this program (which is, at the moment anyway, slated to be in-person).

Great news Niegs!

You should be fine. There may well be some bumps along the way, especially considering the incompetence of the government, but go about your life safely and you should be okay.
Don't think it's worth putting life on hold for a year, assuming you're not clinically at risk.

Congratulations!

[Margin__Walker]

You'll be fine Nieg. Where in the country are you going?

Worst case scenario would probably be coming over here and finding that it all ends up being online. Would probably check how the institution intends to operate if case numbers are high.

[Niegs]

Cheers, Sal and Margin Walker! Uni seems to have a solid plan in place for eventualities (likely were doing a lot of it already), and even seemingly pay most of the hotel for red zone countries (though Canada's amber and our cases are dropping).

It's Sport Development and Management at Leeds Beckett. Figured it's time I put my money (and, boy, it's a lot! ) where my mouth is and get involved in making sport better. Had a good chat with the profs, who sold the program well (one's doing research with Leeds Rhinos at the moment), and it has a work placement/project component which could be interesting as I think there's some choice. Profs also felt I'd be a good fit with my background.

Basically, have been looking to do this sort of work for a while but never get interviews or get passed over for the Brit/Irishman who has this education. I clearly have some 'knowledge gaps' so will do the schooling and go from there.

[Margin__Walker]

Nice. Sounds like a cracking opportunity. Leeds is a nice enough place to live, even if you do have to go a long way (by English standards) to find any decent Union.

[SaintK]

Nice. Sounds like a cracking opportunity. Leeds is a nice enough place to live, even if you do have to go a long way (by English standards) to find any decent Union.

Perhaps at Premiership level but there are more rugby union clubs in Yorkshire than any other county!

[mat the expat]

Cheers, Sal and Margin Walker! Uni seems to have a solid plan in place for eventualities (likely were doing a lot of it already), and even seemingly pay most of the hotel for red zone countries (though Canada's amber and our cases are dropping).

It's Sport Development and Management at Leeds Beckett. Figured it's time I put my money (and, boy, it's a lot! ) where my mouth is and get involved in making sport better. Had a good chat with the profs, who sold the program well (one's doing research with Leeds Rhinos at the moment), and it has a work placement/project component which could be interesting as I think there's some choice. Profs also felt I'd be a good fit with my background.

Basically, have been looking to do this sort of work for a while but never get interviews or get passed over for the Brit/Irishman who has this education. I clearly have some 'knowledge gaps' so will do the schooling and go from there.

Fantastic!

But, you have to make sure you work on your Northern Accent whilst there

[Saint]

Canada opens it's borders to fully vaxed Americans from August 9th. Assuming that goes well, expect both countries to.open to Europe.in September

EDIT - Canada now announces 7th September for fully vaxed globally, just 72 hour pre-departure testing needed (and be using a Canadian approved vaccine, so Pfizer Moderna, AZ, or J&J

I would expect the USA to mirror this shortly

[TheNatalShark]

In queue now with about 40 other people trying to get end of day second jabs (Pfizer) within the 8 weeks. Interestingly one of the clinic managers came out and referenced "we're still awaiting early papers to indicate the if the vaccine is effective within 6 weeks"

Someone should tell the MHRA that. If it's just a management tool to try avoid confrontation with people in order to keep stock for +8 weeks, well it's not a great one.

[The Druid]

Only 18,186 first doses given today ?????
Is this figure accurate
Have we used up our Pfizer stocks?

[Raggs]

Only 18,186 first doses given today ?????
Is this figure accurate
Have we used up our Pfizer stocks?

Potentially, at the same time however, we're at nearly 88% with a first vaccine, which is around about the level you'd expect to reach with pro-plaguers, and the people wanting to "wait and see". I don't know how many more people there are for us to vaccinate with the first dose.

[The Druid]

Only 18,186 first doses given today ?????
Is this figure accurate
Have we used up our Pfizer stocks?

Potentially, at the same time however, we're at nearly 88% with a first vaccine, which is around about the level you'd expect to reach with pro-plaguers, and the people wanting to "wait and see". I don't know how many more people there are for us to vaccinate with the first dose.

Cheers Raggs.

[Raggs]

Only 18,186 first doses given today ?????
Is this figure accurate
Have we used up our Pfizer stocks?

Potentially, at the same time however, we're at nearly 88% with a first vaccine, which is around about the level you'd expect to reach with pro-plaguers, and the people wanting to "wait and see". I don't know how many more people there are for us to vaccinate with the first dose.

Cheers Raggs.

I need to also add those people that are unable to take the vaccine, the ones that many of us are trying to help.

[fishfoodie]

Potentially, at the same time however, we're at nearly 88% with a first vaccine, which is around about the level you'd expect to reach with pro-plaguers, and the people wanting to "wait and see". I don't know how many more people there are for us to vaccinate with the first dose.

Cheers Raggs.

I need to also add those people that are unable to take the vaccine, the ones that many of us are trying to help.

Personally speaking; my worst nightmare, in this last 18 months, was that I would pass this virus onto someone else; & for them to have a serious; or God forbid; a fatal outcome.

I'm not really sure how I could deal with that guilt.

[mat the expat]

Cheers Raggs.

I need to also add those people that are unable to take the vaccine, the ones that many of us are trying to help.

Personally speaking; my worst nightmare, in this last 18 months, was that I would pass this virus onto someone else; & for them to have a serious; or God forbid; a fatal outcome.

I'm not really sure how I could deal with that guilt.

That's the bit that fuckwits and sociopaths don't get

[Biffer]

I need to also add those people that are unable to take the vaccine, the ones that many of us are trying to help.

Personally speaking; my worst nightmare, in this last 18 months, was that I would pass this virus onto someone else; & for them to have a serious; or God forbid; a fatal outcome.

I'm not really sure how I could deal with that guilt.

That's the bit that fuckwits and sociopaths don't get

A lot of them don’t do guilt. They can’t believe they could ever do anything wrong.

[mat the expat]

Thats the lack of empathy/sociopathy.

Like Bimbot

[tabascoboy]

You have to put this through the "Cummings Grudge Filter" but...

Covid: Boris Johnson resisted autumn lockdown as only over-80s dying - Dominic Cummings

Boris Johnson was reluctant to tighten Covid restrictions as cases rose last autumn because he thought people dying from it were "essentially all over 80", Dominic Cummings has claimed.

He also said the prime minister had messaged him to say: "I no longer buy all this NHS overwhelmed stuff."


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57854811

Reminds me of a certain someone last year

[JM2K6]

Only 18,186 first doses given today ?????
Is this figure accurate
Have we used up our Pfizer stocks?

Potentially, at the same time however, we're at nearly 88% with a first vaccine, which is around about the level you'd expect to reach with pro-plaguers, and the people wanting to "wait and see". I don't know how many more people there are for us to vaccinate with the first dose.

I mean, there's a whole bunch of people worth vaccinating who we've decided not to vaccinate at all, so...

[Raggs]

Only 18,186 first doses given today ?????
Is this figure accurate
Have we used up our Pfizer stocks?

Potentially, at the same time however, we're at nearly 88% with a first vaccine, which is around about the level you'd expect to reach with pro-plaguers, and the people wanting to "wait and see". I don't know how many more people there are for us to vaccinate with the first dose.

I mean, there's a whole bunch of people worth vaccinating who we've decided not to vaccinate at all, so...

Talking about 12-18s? No argument from me there! But having decided not to, the dropping rate at the % covered, can very easily be explained by simply not having a lot of people willing/able to take it left.

[JM2K6]

Potentially, at the same time however, we're at nearly 88% with a first vaccine, which is around about the level you'd expect to reach with pro-plaguers, and the people wanting to "wait and see". I don't know how many more people there are for us to vaccinate with the first dose.

I mean, there's a whole bunch of people worth vaccinating who we've decided not to vaccinate at all, so...

Talking about 12-18s? No argument from me there! But having decided not to, the dropping rate at the % covered, can very easily be explained by simply not having a lot of people willing/able to take it left.

Aye, that's fair. Slightly knee jerk response about the 88% figure. Anecdotally people I know who were trying to get 2nd doses >21 days after their first have been told they'll have to wait the full 8 weeks now, which suggests a change in how they're handling Pfizer and more grist to the mill wrt supplies...

[tabascoboy]

Our large local vaccination centre will be closed in early August with a couple further away staying open. If that's the case generally than a continued slow down seem inevitable next month.

Not sure how it will play out if the booster + flu double jab for September thing remains in play

[Sandstorm]

Our large local vaccination centre will be closed in early August with a couple further away staying open. If that's the case generally than a continued slow down seem inevitable next month.

Not sure how it will play out if the booster + flu double jab for September thing remains in play

Our large (and totally organised) vaccination centre closed a month ago. Since then there are two pharmacies in town tasked with jabs. The Boots version has been closed at least 2 days a week and dozens of people are having to re-book their jabs again and again.

(Probably) unrelated to the above, beginning June we had 5 new Covid cases a day in the county. Last week 200. Yesterday there were 310. Go Freedom!

[Saint]

Talking of vaccine supplies does anyone know where UK manufactured vaccine is going now that the UK has completed it's use? Are we allowing AZ to fulfill their EU contract, or are we requiring our contract be completed with supplies going to Covax?

[laurent]

Talking of vaccine supplies does anyone know where UK manufactured vaccine is going now that the UK has completed it's use? Are we allowing AZ to fulfill their EU contract, or are we requiring our contract be completed with supplies going to Covax?

All new deliveries for AZ to France are going to Covax.

[fishfoodie]

Talking of vaccine supplies does anyone know where UK manufactured vaccine is going now that the UK has completed it's use? Are we allowing AZ to fulfill their EU contract, or are we requiring our contract be completed with supplies going to Covax?

Well Ireland is still waiting for the ones your scumbag politicians dangled as leverage, to use against the NI Protocol.

Imagine our surprise that they never arrived .....

[Sandstorm]

Talking of vaccine supplies does anyone know where UK manufactured vaccine is going now that the UK has completed it's use? Are we allowing AZ to fulfill their EU contract, or are we requiring our contract be completed with supplies going to Covax?

Well Ireland is still waiting for the ones your scumbag politicians dangled as leverage, to use against the NI Protocol.

Imagine our surprise that they never arrived .....

You should have been nicer to us.