Afghanistan: that turned out well

[Openside]

It seems unlikely he was responsible for leaving any of his staff behind?

He wasn't - they had visas , Taleban wouldn't let them through.

If they had all gone straight to the airport on Monday instead of waiting 2 days while the Egomaniac shouted at the world’s press, the Taliban wouldn’t have had a chance to stop any of them.

Yup thats my take on it. Sounds like a bit of a nasty piece of work. I guess you have to be a bit of an oddball to do what he was doing though...

[Rinkals]

From our correspondent on the ground:


I hear plenty of criticism of Biden for his handling of the pullout, much of it justified: it has been a bit of a shit show that could have benefitted from a little bit of forethought.

What I do find astonishing, though, is the suggestion that Trump would have handled it better. Trump's past history leads me to think that he would have had zero compunction about leaving American citizens on foreign soil if it suited him, much less Afghanis.

The phrase "They knew what they'd signed up for" comes to mind.

As for the plight of women in Afghanistan under the Taliban, I guess we all know his opinion on that.

[Jock42]

Yeah fair play I suspect the Taliban had were controlling the perimeter at this point.

They always were. Fuck stagging on rubbing shoulders with those cunts, would have made things slightly easier the majority of those there wouldn't have done HERRICK.

[sturginho]

The phrase "They knew what they'd signed up for" comes to mind.

He'd have called them losers for being stuck there, as you know surviving a POW camp doesn't make you a war hero, it makes you a loser for being captured

[Torquemada 1420]

Not only did he leave his Afghan staff behind, and threaten to ‘destroy’ the FO staff given the unenviable task of trying to assist the entitled twat, the likelihood is that most of the animals will have to put down when they arrive here.

It seems unlikely he was responsible for leaving any of his staff behind?

How much time did he spend lobbying the Home Office to get his staff on flights; versus the time he spent getting a few cats & dogs on them ?

My understanding was the staff were already granted leave: it was the Taliban who stopped them?

[robmatic]

It seems unlikely he was responsible for leaving any of his staff behind?

How much time did he spend lobbying the Home Office to get his staff on flights; versus the time he spent getting a few cats & dogs on them ?

My understanding was the staff were already granted leave: it was the Taliban who stopped them?

Perhaps it would have been a better idea to send his staff to the airport ASAP in a time-pressured situation instead of dicking around with a collection of mangy animals.

[Rinkals]

Our man in Kabul seems to be having a good time

[Sandstorm]

Our man in Kabul seems to be having a good time

Unless I see his boat, I’m calling that a photoshop and a fake!

[Chilli]

Our man in Kabul seems to be having a good time

Yeah, he seems to be having fun.

[Torquemada 1420]

Looks like Panjshir has fallen so it is 100% game over now.

[Calculon]

Looks like Panjshir has fallen so it is 100% game over now.

Fallen with a little help from the Taliban's Pakistani friends who as well as providing supplies provided direct air support

[Torquemada 1420]

Looks like Panjshir has fallen so it is 100% game over now.

Fallen with a little help from the Taliban's Pakistani friends who as well as providing supplies provided direct air support

Indeed.

[fishfoodie]

Looks like Panjshir has fallen so it is 100% game over now.

Fallen with a little help from the Taliban's Pakistani friends who as well as providing supplies provided direct air support

Yeah; Pakistan now has Nuclear weapons; an Intelligence agency run by people who treat elected Politicians as disposable puppets; & now a neighbouring country where it can continue to train terrorists .... what could possibly go wrong ?

[robmatic]

Looks like Panjshir has fallen so it is 100% game over now.

Fallen with a little help from the Taliban's Pakistani friends who as well as providing supplies provided direct air support

Yeah; Pakistan now has Nuclear weapons; an Intelligence agency run by people who treat elected Politicians as disposable puppets; & now a neighbouring country where it can continue to train terrorists .... what could possibly go wrong ?

Well, they are our allies so they will get a free pass, including when it all blows up (like Saudi Arabia after 9/11).

[Torquemada 1420]

Looks like Panjshir has fallen so it is 100% game over now.

Fallen with a little help from the Taliban's Pakistani friends who as well as providing supplies provided direct air support

Yeah; Pakistan now has Nuclear weapons; an Intelligence agency run by people who treat elected Politicians as disposable puppets; & now a neighbouring country where it can continue to train terrorists .... what could possibly go wrong ?

They might even win a Test series too.

[fishfoodie]

Fallen with a little help from the Taliban's Pakistani friends who as well as providing supplies provided direct air support

Yeah; Pakistan now has Nuclear weapons; an Intelligence agency run by people who treat elected Politicians as disposable puppets; & now a neighbouring country where it can continue to train terrorists .... what could possibly go wrong ?

Well, they are our allies so they will get a free pass, including when it all blows up (like Saudi Arabia after 9/11).

As I mentioned on PR; the Pakistan nuclear program was financed by the Al Sauds; & assisted by cross cooperation with the North Koreans; all with the goal of getting an; "Islamic Bomb".

If the CIA were running around like lunatics trying to secure nukes when the USSR went belly up; it''s hard to imagine why anyone could be happy with the people who supported & hid the guy behind 9/11, having a bunch of terrorist mates, & easy access to nukes.

[Enzedder]

Turning Point of Netflix is a great series if you have a few hours to spare

[mat the expat]

Looks like Panjshir has fallen so it is 100% game over now.

Fallen with a little help from the Taliban's Pakistani friends who as well as providing supplies provided direct air support

Sad considering the Russians were never able to take it

[Torquemada 1420]

Looks like Panjshir has fallen so it is 100% game over now.

Fallen with a little help from the Taliban's Pakistani friends who as well as providing supplies provided direct air support

Sad considering the Russians were never able to take it

It might not be all done. Talibs control the only through route but questionable whether they have control over all of the finger valleys that run off that in every direction.

[mat the expat]

Fallen with a little help from the Taliban's Pakistani friends who as well as providing supplies provided direct air support

Sad considering the Russians were never able to take it

It might not be all done. Talibs control the only through route but questionable whether they have control over all of the finger valleys that run off that in every direction.

I imagine that's right - with Hinds/Floggers and Fencer support, if Russia couldn't manage total control, it's unlikely

[fishfoodie]

Sad considering the Russians were never able to take it

It might not be all done. Talibs control the only through route but questionable whether they have control over all of the finger valleys that run off that in every direction.

I imagine that's right - with Hinds/Floggers and Fencer support, if Russia couldn't manage total control, it's unlikely

The Russian occupation turned into a kind of reverse terrorism campaign, against the Afghans. The use of Anti-Personnel mines disguised a childrens toys, & dolls, was about the lowest form of warfare I can imagine.

Ian Dunt sums up Raab, & the dog lovers performance pretty well.

[assfly]

Turning Point of Netflix is a great series if you have a few hours to spare

It's very good. I've done a lot of reading on the war on terror over the years, and this show summarises the entire thing nicely.

It's actually quite astounding how badly organised the entire thing was, and what a resounding defeat it has turned out to be for the US.

[Flockwitt]

The military industrial complex got their money in the US and financed their bought and sold politicians. All those trillions went somewhere. A forever war, never actually succeeding? Yes please!

[Torquemada 1420]

The military industrial complex got their money in the US and financed their bought and sold politicians. All those trillions went somewhere. A forever war, never actually succeeding? Yes please!

Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Panama, Iraq, Afghanistan...... the gifts that keep giving to the US arms industry.

[Sandstorm]

The military industrial complex got their money in the US and financed their bought and sold politicians. All those trillions went somewhere. A forever war, never actually succeeding? Yes please!

Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Panama, Iraq, Afghanistan...... the gifts that keep giving to the US arms industry.

*cough* Iron Curtain *cough*