So, coronavirus...

[Calculon]

I've never tried it for anything other than flu jabs or covid vaccines or whatever else I had as a kid, but I imagine sticking any needle into your arm would end up with a little discomfort at the puncture area for the next day or two.
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Probably less pain since you won't have the vaccine antigens causing inflammation. Strangely I had no pain after the first shot.

[Ymx]

Had my booster, centre was pretty busy for a village hall not much bigger than a basketball court. They were giving out Pfizer today...

Moderna today for me. If I wasn’t exposed to Covid is a small, unventilated store in a small, unventilated mall I’ll be shocked!

The drop in professionalism of the booster rollout locations vs earlier jab centres is stark.

Painless 6G upgrade??

[Ymx]

Sajid Javid, the Health Secretary, is preparing to announce the start of a national pilot of Lagevrio, also known as Molnupiravir – the "game-changing" pill that Britain became the first country to license last month.

Under the plans, the NHS is expected to deliver courses of the tablet to clinically vulnerable and immunosuppressed patients within as little as 48 hours of them testing positive for Covid.


I’d always thought the only way to combat this is with treatment rather than vaccines.

Although, who knows the side affects it might have.

[Rinkals]

I suppose it's safer to get the tests done in a "third country" than to risk having them done in a country where blacks are in charge.

[Sandstorm]

Had my booster, centre was pretty busy for a village hall not much bigger than a basketball court. They were giving out Pfizer today...

Moderna today for me. If I wasn’t exposed to Covid is a small, unventilated store in a small, unventilated mall I’ll be shocked!

The drop in professionalism of the booster rollout locations vs earlier jab centres is stark.

Painless 6G upgrade??

NOT painless!!! Arm hurts like fuck this morning, waaay worse than AZ 5G jabs in the summer.

[Sandstorm]

I suppose it's safer to get the tests done in a "third country" than to risk having them done in a country where blacks are in charge.

Well that’s one take. However that KLM flight from Jhb to Schipol landed with 60 positive cases on it……

[tabascoboy]

Moderna today for me. If I wasn’t exposed to Covid is a small, unventilated store in a small, unventilated mall I’ll be shocked!

The drop in professionalism of the booster rollout locations vs earlier jab centres is stark.

Painless 6G upgrade??

NOT painless!!! Arm hurts like fuck this morning, waaay worse than AZ 5G jabs in the summer.

Yep, movement of left arm noticeably limited this morning, sudden headache came on late last night but gone today. Nothing remotely as inconveniencing from the AZ jabs before.

Still, at least my head is picking up Radio 4 broadcast

[Ymx]

Moderna today for me. If I wasn’t exposed to Covid is a small, unventilated store in a small, unventilated mall I’ll be shocked!

The drop in professionalism of the booster rollout locations vs earlier jab centres is stark.

Painless 6G upgrade??

NOT painless!!! Arm hurts like fuck this morning, waaay worse than AZ 5G jabs in the summer.

Balls. Mine’s in a couple of weeks still. Do you know ahead of time which one it will be?
Had to book in Woking for mine. Fair old distance away.

[Rinkals]

Nice!

[Uncle fester]

Nice!

Jeeeee-zus.

[Ymx]

Spanish?

[Calculon]

I suppose it's safer to get the tests done in a "third country" than to risk having them done in a country where blacks are in charge.

Well that’s one take. However that KLM flight from Jhb to Schipol landed with 60 positive cases on it……

So what? Passengers didn't need a negative PCR test to board the flight.

[Calculon]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... dam-fears/
60 people out of 600 is an unexpectedly high proportion.

PCR testers in SA are incompetent or corrupt.


Rinky in 5……4…..3…….

Passengers didn't require a negative PCR test to board the flight.

[Sandstorm]

Painless 6G upgrade??

NOT painless!!! Arm hurts like fuck this morning, waaay worse than AZ 5G jabs in the summer.

Balls. Mine’s in a couple of weeks still. Do you know ahead of time which one it will be?
Had to book in Woking for mine. Fair old distance away.

Nope. Nothing on the app when you book. Found out it was Moderna 3 secs before they shoot you in the arm with a 7.62 mm round.

[Sandstorm]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... dam-fears/
60 people out of 600 is an unexpectedly high proportion.

PCR testers in SA are incompetent or corrupt.


Rinky in 5……4…..3…….

Passengers didn't require a negative PCR test to board the flight.

Which is why you’re on a red list again.

[Ymx]

NOT painless!!! Arm hurts like fuck this morning, waaay worse than AZ 5G jabs in the summer.

Balls. Mine’s in a couple of weeks still. Do you know ahead of time which one it will be?
Had to book in Woking for mine. Fair old distance away.

Nope. Nothing on the app when you book. Found out it was Moderna 3 secs before they shoot you in the arm with a 7.62 mm round.

Is Alec Baldwin filling in, whilst not filming?

[fishfoodie]

NOT painless!!! Arm hurts like fuck this morning, waaay worse than AZ 5G jabs in the summer.

Balls. Mine’s in a couple of weeks still. Do you know ahead of time which one it will be?
Had to book in Woking for mine. Fair old distance away.

Nope. Nothing on the app when you book. Found out it was Moderna 3 secs before they shoot you in the arm with a 7.62 mm round.

Take it as a compliment !

The nurse saw you were tough as teak; so she knew she'd need to take a run up, to get through that muscle.

[dpedin]

Balls. Mine’s in a couple of weeks still. Do you know ahead of time which one it will be?
Had to book in Woking for mine. Fair old distance away.

Nope. Nothing on the app when you book. Found out it was Moderna 3 secs before they shoot you in the arm with a 7.62 mm round.

Take it as a compliment !

The nurse saw you were tough as teak; so she knew she'd need to take a run up, to get through that muscle.

Had my Moderna booster on Thursday, played 18 holes on Friday, felt a bit tired on Saturday, played golf again today felt fine and beat handicap by 5.

They must have given you the wrong microchip and you're not picking up the 5G properly?

[petej]

Sajid Javid, the Health Secretary, is preparing to announce the start of a national pilot of Lagevrio, also known as Molnupiravir – the "game-changing" pill that Britain became the first country to license last month.

Under the plans, the NHS is expected to deliver courses of the tablet to clinically vulnerable and immunosuppressed patients within as little as 48 hours of them testing positive for Covid.


I’d always thought the only way to combat this is with treatment rather than vaccines.

Although, who knows the side affects it might have.

Disagree strongly on that. The best way to combat it is with both. Vaccines will keep a higher proportion from needing treatments. Unfortunately, some will still need treatments.

Study interestingly indicates that omicron cov19 has picked up a snippet of HCov229E.

Give it two weeks and the community spread will be such that UKs travel ban is a waste of time.

[Ymx]

Yeah, I agree with that. I worded it badly, should have said rather than just vaccines. But think it’s treatment which will pull us out of this perpetual cycle.

And agree with your comment on the travel ban.

[Biffer]

There's a number of things to be concerned at just now, no doubt.

But don't let it obscure the better news as well. In Scotland we have fewer people in hospital, and fewer of those in intensive care, than at any point since the end of August. Vaccines folks - they work.

[petej]

There's a number of things to be concerned at just now, no doubt.

But don't let it obscure the better news as well. In Scotland we have fewer people in hospital, and fewer of those in intensive care, than at any point since the end of August. Vaccines folks - they work.

I saw a chart today indicating that we've gone from 10 cases per hospitalisation in January to nearly 60 cases per hospitalisation.

[vball]

Moderna today for me. If I wasn’t exposed to Covid is a small, unventilated store in a small, unventilated mall I’ll be shocked!

The drop in professionalism of the booster rollout locations vs earlier jab centres is stark.

Painless 6G upgrade??

NOT painless!!! Arm hurts like fuck this morning, waaay worse than AZ 5G jabs in the summer.

I had 1st and 2nd jabs of AZ and had no issues.Not even a sore arm. Wife was the same.
Booster was Pfizer and my arm was bloody sore. Pfizer for the wife too and her arm was so sore she had to take painkillers and did not get a good not sleep for 2 nights.
But as has been said, cases in Scotland look to be dropping.

[dpedin]

Hearing hospitals in Scotland remain on top alert, still very, very busy with covid and trying to catch up on urgent cases and staffing remains a major concern. SG are trying to get more staff freed up in order to quickly ramp up vaccinations but hospitals are struggling and absences and vacancies are very high. Also hearing that staff are just plain knackered and less likely to be able to do extra shifts etc plus the extra staff that were around last winter - students, retired staff, etc - are not available this time around. They are not looking forward to winter at all and have fingers crossed that we don't see any increase in covid hospitalisations, a bad flu season or a cold and snowy winter spell, all of which they might struggle to cope with.

On the plus side the vaccination programme is having a big positive impact on hospitalisation rate and emerging data suggests Omicron isn't leading to any increase in hospitalisations over Delta. Admissions to hospital and ICU are on a downward trend. However worries are its still a number game in that if Omicron is so much more transmissible then even with a lower rate of hospitalisation the numbers may still become a major problem. There are still 420k folk in Scotland eligible but not vaccinated for whatever reason plus 698k kids not vaccinated.

Fingers crossed!

[petej]

Hearing hospitals in Scotland remain on top alert, still very, very busy with covid and trying to catch up on urgent cases and staffing remains a major concern. SG are trying to get more staff freed up in order to quickly ramp up vaccinations but hospitals are struggling and absences and vacancies are very high. Also hearing that staff are just plain knackered and less likely to be able to do extra shifts etc plus the extra staff that were around last winter - students, retired staff, etc - are not available this time around. They are not looking forward to winter at all and have fingers crossed that we don't see any increase in covid hospitalisations, a bad flu season or a cold and snowy winter spell, all of which they might struggle to cope with.

On the plus side the vaccination programme is having a big positive impact on hospitalisation rate and emerging data suggests Omicron isn't leading to any increase in hospitalisations over Delta. Admissions to hospital and ICU are on a downward trend. However worries are its still a number game in that if Omicron is so much more transmissible then even with a lower rate of hospitalisation the numbers may still become a major problem. There are still 420k folk in Scotland eligible but not vaccinated for whatever reason plus 698k kids not vaccinated.

Fingers crossed!

Due to the degree of built up immunity (vaccines and infections) I think proportionally to cases the number of fatalities and hospitalisations will be far lower with Omicron but the speed of the wave greater which is bad for health services.

-ve Government release states: “New analysis conducted by the UK Health and Security Agency (UKHSA) indicates that the window between infection and infectiousness may be shorter for the Omicron variant”

+ve proportion of B & T cell epitomes affected is about three times more than Beta or Delta.
https://virological.org/t/report-on-omi ... rature/770

[Calculon]

PCR testers in SA are incompetent or corrupt.


Rinky in 5……4…..3…….

Passengers didn't require a negative PCR test to board the flight.

Which is why you’re on a red list again.

SA was put on the UK red list because of KLM boarding requirements. I guess that is one way of looking at it.

[Sandstorm]

Well that escalated fast!! Jabbed 3pm Saturday, just a sore arm on Sunday until 9pm when I started shivering and sweating uncontrollably. Went to bed and was ready to die all night. Drenched the sheets in sweat, awful headache. Almost cracked my teeth they were chattering so much!! Sent a sick note text to boss at breakfast time.

Finally passed out asleep and woke up at 2pm this afternoon. Felt much better at last and the arm barely aches any more.

Fuck Moderna boosters and fuck Covid19.

[salanya]

Well that escalated fast!! Jabbed 3pm Saturday, just a sore arm on Sunday until 9pm when I started shivering and sweating uncontrollably. Went to bed and was ready to die all night. Drenched the sheets in sweat, awful headache. Almost cracked my teeth they were chattering so much!! Sent a sick note text to boss at breakfast time.

Finally passed out asleep and woke up at 2pm this afternoon. Felt much better at last and the arm barely aches any more.

Fuck Moderna boosters and fuck Covid19.

Only the bravest can take the Moderna

Though are you sure it was Covid - sounds like man-flu........

(glad you're feeling better)

[Sandstorm]

Gracias Sal

[Ymx]

Right.

Fuck.

Just a mild reaction then.

Can’t wait for mine I booked a few days before Christmas then.

[Slick]

Well that escalated fast!! Jabbed 3pm Saturday, just a sore arm on Sunday until 9pm when I started shivering and sweating uncontrollably. Went to bed and was ready to die all night. Drenched the sheets in sweat, awful headache. Almost cracked my teeth they were chattering so much!! Sent a sick note text to boss at breakfast time.

Finally passed out asleep and woke up at 2pm this afternoon. Felt much better at last and the arm barely aches any more.

Fuck Moderna boosters and fuck Covid19.

Yeehaa! Sounds like you are a bit of a fanny, but glad you’re feeling better

[Sandstorm]

Well that escalated fast!! Jabbed 3pm Saturday, just a sore arm on Sunday until 9pm when I started shivering and sweating uncontrollably. Went to bed and was ready to die all night. Drenched the sheets in sweat, awful headache. Almost cracked my teeth they were chattering so much!! Sent a sick note text to boss at breakfast time.

Finally passed out asleep and woke up at 2pm this afternoon. Felt much better at last and the arm barely aches any more.

Fuck Moderna boosters and fuck Covid19.

Yeehaa! Sounds like you are a bit of a fanny, but glad you’re feeling better

You should have seen me hardly complain the last time I had man-flu.

[convoluted]

NZ Purchases 60,000 courses of Pfizer treatments.

The government has purchased 60,000 courses of Pfizer's oral antiviral medication to treat early infections of Covid-19, subject to Medsafe approval, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has confirmed ... "It's a big step forward for the management of Covid-19 globally."

... She said alongside vaccinations, hospital treatments were already reducing the likelihood of people needing ICU care, with ICU rates in Auckland dropping from the 5.7 percent of hospitalisations seen early in the pandemic to 3 percent.

... "Pfizer's new antiviral has a three-to-five-day window from the beginning of Covid symptoms to be effective - most effective from three days but still with efficacy up to five." ... ... ...

First, why am I so suspicious that Pfizer has essentially taken what works against the pox from Ivermectin (a.k.a. 'horse dewormer' to a certain sub-set) and hydroxychloroquine, then wrapped it all up in a patent to sell each course at what is probably a many hundred -fold cost over what Ivermectin sells for ... ??

Second: efficacy of the Pfizer treatment is dependent on how early the treatment starts. That is exactly how the use of hydroxychloroquine was 'debunked' when Trump touted it as a treatment. It was deliberately given as a trial treatment to veterans who were literally in their dying days from Covid. They all perished of course as it was way too late, but hey, there it was folks, another bit of 'Trump quackery', 'scientifically debunked in a clinical trial'.

Third, Adern says hospital treatments are already reducing the likelihood of people needing ICU care. Intriguingly, we aren't told what these treatments are. If I were very ill with Covid and been told to look after myself at home, I'd love an insight into what those treatments were.

[petej]

Right.

Fuck.

Just a mild reaction then.

Can’t wait for mine I booked a few days before Christmas then.

I'm disappointed about my lack of reaction to the booster (pfizer) and I had it a 3weeks after +ve COVID test (not sure if there should be a bigger gap). Also had bugger all reaction to my 2 original jabs (AZ) bar a bit of a sore arm. Perhaps my immune system is lazy.

One thing that totally bemuses me is that we haven't updated our official COVID symptoms, it still lists fever, loss of smell, continuous cough when in most people including myself it was a pretty standard cold. Going by the official symptoms I had no reason to test myself.

[fishfoodie]

Right.

Fuck.

Just a mild reaction then.

Can’t wait for mine I booked a few days before Christmas then.

I'm disappointed about my lack of reaction to the booster (pfizer) and I had it a 3weeks after +ve COVID test (not sure if there should be a bigger gap). Also had bugger all reaction to my 2 original jabs (AZ) bar a bit of a sore arm. Perhaps my immune system is lazy.

One thing that totally bemuses me is that we haven't updated our official COVID symptoms, it still lists fever, loss of smell, continuous cough when in most people including myself it was a pretty standard cold. Going by the official symptoms I had no reason to test myself.

The advice in Ireland would have told you not to get a booster until 5 months after having had Covid.

Catching Covid after being vaccinated; has the same effect as getting the booster; it stimulated your immune system into a response; & encourages the muscle memory that the vaccine is developing. So in effect; you got the booster by catching covid.

I think this also explains why you had no reaction to the actual booster; as your immune system had already been stimulated by the real virus.

[TB63]

NZ Purchases 60,000 courses of Pfizer treatments.

The government has purchased 60,000 courses of Pfizer's oral antiviral medication to treat early infections of Covid-19, subject to Medsafe approval, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has confirmed ... "It's a big step forward for the management of Covid-19 globally."

... She said alongside vaccinations, hospital treatments were already reducing the likelihood of people needing ICU care, with ICU rates in Auckland dropping from the 5.7 percent of hospitalisations seen early in the pandemic to 3 percent.

... "Pfizer's new antiviral has a three-to-five-day window from the beginning of Covid symptoms to be effective - most effective from three days but still with efficacy up to five." ... ... ...

First, why am I so suspicious that Pfizer has essentially taken what works against the pox from Ivermectin (a.k.a. 'horse dewormer' to a certain sub-set) and hydroxychloroquine, then wrapped it all up in a patent to sell each course at what is probably a many hundred -fold cost over what Ivermectin sells for ... ?? Because you're a brainwashed conspiracy nutcase. No links to Invermectin or hydroxychloroquine in their Paxlovid..

Second: efficacy of the Pfizer treatment is dependent on how early the treatment starts. That is exactly how the use of hydroxychloroquine was 'debunked' when Trump touted it as a treatment. It was deliberately given as a trial treatment to veterans who were literally in their dying days from Covid. They all perished of course as it was way too late, but hey, there it was folks, another bit of 'Trump quackery', 'scientifically debunked in a clinical trial'. Every fucking time the orange fucknuckle opens his mouth, he gets debunked...

Third, Adern says hospital treatments are already reducing the likelihood of people needing ICU care. Intriguingly, we aren't told what these treatments are. If I were very ill with Covid and been told to look after myself at home, I'd love an insight into what those treatments were.

[Oxbow]

Just back from having my booster. Everyone I know who has gone to my surgery has had Pfizer, but they were dishing out Moderna today. Hopefully it won't fuck me up like it did Sandstorm.

[Uncle fester]

Starting to look like Omicron could be milder strain but more transmittable.

CNBC: Pfizer CEO says omicron appears milder but spreads faster and could lead to more Covid mutations.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/07/pfizer- ... tions.html

[Biffer]

Starting to look like Omicron could be milder strain but more transmittable.

CNBC: Pfizer CEO says omicron appears milder but spreads faster and could lead to more Covid mutations.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/07/pfizer- ... tions.html

Which might actually make it worse at societal scale. A smaller percentage of a bigger number could put just as much, if not more pressure on the NHS.

[Sandstorm]

Just back from having my booster. Everyone I know who has gone to my surgery has had Pfizer, but they were dishing out Moderna today. Hopefully it won't fuck me up like it did Sandstorm.

*sympathy fist bump*