President Trump and US politics catchall

[Hal Jordan]

I suppose if he's outlived his usefulness, then he's toast.

[TB63]

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Oh dear, now he's saying his assets are worth more than he declared.
How fucking stupid is he?..

[fishfoodie]

Oh dear, now he's saying his assets are worth more than he declared.

How fucking stupid is he?..

He's stupid enough to have turned the embarrassment of being roasted, into his running for President; & thus fucking himself & his spawn, so comprehensively; that in a decades time; nothing will remain of the legacy his father gifted to him; & his families name will be a byword for corruption, stupidity, & the worst Presidency ever !

[Kiwias]

Oh dear, now he's saying his assets are worth more than he declared.

How fucking stupid is he?..

He's stupid enough to have turned the embarrassment of being roasted, into his running for President; & thus fucking himself & his spawn, so comprehensively; that in a decades time; nothing will remain of the legacy his father gifted to him; & his families name will be a byword for corruption, stupidity, & the worst Presidency ever !

Amen to that.

[convoluted]

He is so fucked !

I never expected to see him jailed, it was never possible; but bankrupting him, will destroy him; because he has always defined success, by how much money he had. To reduce him to relative poverty will eat him up worse than twenty years in any prison.

Sure he's been bankrupt before. No biggie.

This is different though. It’s not just bankruptcy, it’s fraud, and the people he’s defrauded are other rich people, including massive financial institutions. This is a rich vs rich shitfight, and he’s going to get royally fucked, as are his kids.

OMG!!
Sounds for sure like "The Walls Are Closing In On Trump!!"

So when is this due to happen?

Can I remind you clowns that you've been here before ... for five plus years in fact ... over and over and over and over again ... 'bombshell' after 'bombshell' ... 'cept that each and every one of those 'bombshells' only ended up exploding in your own gullible half-wit faces.

Why do you people keep doing this to yourselves?
Have you zero self-respect?

Do you lie awake at night praying to the gods that one day something will be found that will finally justify your irrational hatred of Trump? Something; anything ... at this stage of your desperation even an overdue library book would suffice.
Otherwise you just know that your Cousin Clarence and your Aunt Myrtle will forever be chortling over how you keep allowing the MSM to lead you around by the nose.

[sefton]

Who is this imbecile?

[Uncle fester]

Some say it's Sneaker.

[inactionman]

A bot, surely?

A badly coded bot.

[TB63]

Who is this imbecile?

Some NZ nutbar..

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[Hal Jordan]

Two fine figures of humanity there. And the gut on the bloke in grey behind them!

[JM2K6]

[TB63]

[Uncle fester]

This for real?

[Rinkals]

This for real?

Nope.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factche ... SL2N2NJ2CM

[TB63]

This for real?

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Of course not, wanted a laugh, trying to get Convoluted to comment!..

[Uncle fester]

This for real?

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Of course not, wanted a laugh, trying to get Convoluted to comment!..

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Phew

[TB63]

This for real?

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Of course not, wanted a laugh, trying to get Convoluted to comment!..

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[Rinkals]

Trump seems to be scraping the barrel in his appointment of lawyers to act for him.

After Alina Habba-Habba's risible defence against Letitia James, he's being represented by Marie L. Fiala (who?) in his case against Twitter with similar results.

It's either because he can't afford a top flight lawyer, or because any reputable lawyer is aware of the reputational damage they would incur.

Plus, there's a high likelihood that they wouldn't get paid.

Maybe he feels that no Judge would be able to resist a pretty woman.

[Rinkals]

Just seen this:

I think we are all more or less innured to the idea that Trump will never be held to account because of the unwillingness of Garland's DoJ to act against him, but it does seem like something is afoot.

Having said that, if someone was to courier Trump's purloined classified documents abroad, it would be someone a little less high profile than Mamafort.

[fishfoodie]

Just seen this:

I think we are all more or less innured to the idea that Trump will never be held to account because of the unwillingness of Garland's DoJ to act against him, but it does seem like something is afoot.

Having said that, if someone was to courier Trump's purloined classified documents abroad, it would be someone a little less high profile than Mamafort.

He's under indictment for contempt of congress, over his refusal to give testimony on his involvement in Jan 6th.

[inactionman]

The best people https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60843262

I've just no idea where to start with idiots like this.

I do not believe that I have committed any crime

He added that he has plans "to move my family here," but noted that the decision would ultimately be up to his wife.

I can imagine she is right on board with all of this. Husband loses his shit so you have to move to Belarus.

[Hugo]

Just saw this Madeleine Allbright clip on twitter and did not realise that the "Saddam has weapons of mass destruction" talking point was used as far back as 1998. Really shows how scripted and disciplined the messaging is.

[fishfoodie]

Just saw this Madeleine Allbright clip on twitter and did not realise that the "Saddam has weapons of mass destruction" talking point was used as far back as 1998. Really shows how scripted and disciplined the messaging is.

Well he did, didn't he !

And he used them on a number of occasions, against Iran, & more infamously the Kurds.

[bogbunny]

Don't fuk with the Baldies.

[Tichtheid]

Just saw this Madeleine Allbright clip on twitter and did not realise that the "Saddam has weapons of mass destruction" talking point was used as far back as 1998. Really shows how scripted and disciplined the messaging is.

The "Saddam has weapons of Mass destruction" goes back further than 1998, it goes back to when his murderous regime used Sarin, Mustard gas and other chemical weapons against their own citizens.

Ali Hassan al-Majid, aka Chemical Ali -

I went to Sulaymaniyah and hit them with the special ammunition [i.e. chemical weapons]. That was my answer. We continued the deportations. I told the mustashars [village heads] that they might say that they like their villages and that they won't leave. I said I cannot let your village stay because I will attack it with chemical weapons. Then you and your family will die. You must leave right now. Because I cannot tell you the same day that I am going to attack with chemical weapons. I will kill them all with chemical weapons! Who is going to say anything? The international community? Fuck them! The international community and those who listen to them. ... This is my intention, and I want you to take serious note of it. As soon as we complete the deportations, we will start attacking them everywhere according to a systematic military plan. Even their strongholds. In our attacks we will take back one third or one half of what is under their control. If we can try to take two-thirds, then we will surround them in a small pocket and attack them with chemical weapons. I will not attack them with chemicals just one day, but I will continue to attack them with chemicals for fifteen days. Then I will announce that anyone who wishes to surrender with his gun will be allowed to do so. Anyone willing to come back is welcome, and those who do not return will be attacked again with new, destructive chemicals. I will not mention the name of the chemical because that is classified information. But I will say with new destructive weapons that will destroy you. So I will threaten them and motivate them to surrender.

[Hugo]

The "Saddam has weapons of Mass destruction" goes back further than 1998, it goes back to when his murderous regime used Sarin, Mustard gas and other chemical weapons against their own citizens.

Ali Hassan al-Majid, aka Chemical Ali -

I went to Sulaymaniyah and hit them with the special ammunition [i.e. chemical weapons]. That was my answer. We continued the deportations. I told the mustashars [village heads] that they might say that they like their villages and that they won't leave. I said I cannot let your village stay because I will attack it with chemical weapons. Then you and your family will die. You must leave right now. Because I cannot tell you the same day that I am going to attack with chemical weapons. I will kill them all with chemical weapons! Who is going to say anything? The international community? Fuck them! The international community and those who listen to them. ... This is my intention, and I want you to take serious note of it. As soon as we complete the deportations, we will start attacking them everywhere according to a systematic military plan. Even their strongholds. In our attacks we will take back one third or one half of what is under their control. If we can try to take two-thirds, then we will surround them in a small pocket and attack them with chemical weapons. I will not attack them with chemicals just one day, but I will continue to attack them with chemicals for fifteen days. Then I will announce that anyone who wishes to surrender with his gun will be allowed to do so. Anyone willing to come back is welcome, and those who do not return will be attacked again with new, destructive chemicals. I will not mention the name of the chemical because that is classified information. But I will say with new destructive weapons that will destroy you. So I will threaten them and motivate them to surrender.

Yeah, that is definitely well documented.

But I'm talking about something different - what I'm talking about is the exact terminology of "weapons of mass destruction" as used by the Beltway. I only recall hearing that specific term used in the run up to the invasion, apparently it was being used in foreign policy circles during the Clinton admin.

[Tichtheid]

But I'm talking about something different - what I'm talking about is the exact terminology of "weapons of mass destruction" as used by the Beltway. I only recall hearing that specific term used in the run up to the invasion, apparently it was being used in foreign policy circles during the Clinton admin.

The term was used in the first resolution of the United Nations General Assembly in 1946 (I do not have this information in my head, I had to look it up) but it even predates that -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon_of ... _this_term

[Hugo]

But I'm talking about something different - what I'm talking about is the exact terminology of "weapons of mass destruction" as used by the Beltway. I only recall hearing that specific term used in the run up to the invasion, apparently it was being used in foreign policy circles during the Clinton admin.

The term was used in the first resolution of the United Nations General Assembly in 1946 (I do not have this information in my head, I had to look it up) but it even predates that -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon_of ... _this_term

Interesting reading. Looks like it was an Archbishop of Canterbury who first coined the term during the 30s.

[fishfoodie]

But I'm talking about something different - what I'm talking about is the exact terminology of "weapons of mass destruction" as used by the Beltway. I only recall hearing that specific term used in the run up to the invasion, apparently it was being used in foreign policy circles during the Clinton admin.

The term was used in the first resolution of the United Nations General Assembly in 1946 (I do not have this information in my head, I had to look it up) but it even predates that -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon_of ... _this_term

Interesting reading. Looks like it was an Archbishop of Canterbury who first coined the term during the 30s.

People assume Nukes were the first WMD, but actually they were the last.

Chemical warfare obviously started in WW I, with gas attacks by both sides; then in the inter-war years, a number of Countries worked with Anthrax, & other biological weapons, most horrendously with the Japanese conducting, "experiments", on Chinese villages, & captives.

The nuclear attacks on Japan were just the final example of weapons that were in-discriminant in who they killed, & whose nature made targeting them against solely military targets impossible.

[Biffer]

The term was used in the first resolution of the United Nations General Assembly in 1946 (I do not have this information in my head, I had to look it up) but it even predates that -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon_of ... _this_term

Interesting reading. Looks like it was an Archbishop of Canterbury who first coined the term during the 30s.

People assume Nukes were the first WMD, but actually they were the last.

Chemical warfare obviously started in WW I, with gas attacks by both sides; then in the inter-war years, a number of Countries worked with Anthrax, & other biological weapons, most horrendously with the Japanese conducting, "experiments", on Chinese villages, & captives.

The nuclear attacks on Japan were just the final example of weapons that were in-discriminant in who they killed, & whose nature made targeting them against solely military targets impossible.

Biological warfare happened for hundreds of years before that, catapulting bodies into castles under siege etc.

[fishfoodie]

Interesting reading. Looks like it was an Archbishop of Canterbury who first coined the term during the 30s.

People assume Nukes were the first WMD, but actually they were the last.

Chemical warfare obviously started in WW I, with gas attacks by both sides; then in the inter-war years, a number of Countries worked with Anthrax, & other biological weapons, most horrendously with the Japanese conducting, "experiments", on Chinese villages, & captives.

The nuclear attacks on Japan were just the final example of weapons that were in-discriminant in who they killed, & whose nature made targeting them against solely military targets impossible.

Biological warfare happened for hundreds of years before that, catapulting bodies into castles under siege etc.

Very true !

Or the Europeans giving the Native Americans blankets infested with fleas

[TB63]

People assume Nukes were the first WMD, but actually they were the last.

Chemical warfare obviously started in WW I, with gas attacks by both sides; then in the inter-war years, a number of Countries worked with Anthrax, & other biological weapons, most horrendously with the Japanese conducting, "experiments", on Chinese villages, & captives.

The nuclear attacks on Japan were just the final example of weapons that were in-discriminant in who they killed, & whose nature made targeting them against solely military targets impossible.

Biological warfare happened for hundreds of years before that, catapulting bodies into castles under siege etc.

Very true !

Or the Europeans giving the Native Americans blankets infested with fleas

Never stayed in a Travelodge?..

[Tilly Orifice]

But I'm talking about something different - what I'm talking about is the exact terminology of "weapons of mass destruction" as used by the Beltway. I only recall hearing that specific term used in the run up to the invasion, apparently it was being used in foreign policy circles during the Clinton admin.

The term was used in the first resolution of the United Nations General Assembly in 1946 (I do not have this information in my head, I had to look it up) but it even predates that -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon_of ... _this_term

Interesting reading. Looks like it was an Archbishop of Canterbury who first coined the term during the 30s.

Oh, I didn't know he was that old.

[Insane_Homer]

Biden ramping up the rhetoric on twitter in the last 24 hrs

[Insane_Homer]

meanwhile in fantasy land...

[fishfoodie]

This might be worth it's own thread, but what are the chances that major property appraisers have been systematically helping clients to defraud banks, & under pay taxes, for decades ??

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-a ... ?r=US&IR=T

Global real estate services giant Cushman & Wakefield is appealing a court order from last month that requires them to turn over years worth of property valuations by five appraisers who worked on Trump Organization properties.

The appeal, filed in a New York appellate court in Manhattan, pushes back against recent subpoenas from state Attorney General Letitia James, who is winding up a three-year investigation into the former president's business.

The Cushman records James wants — and which Cushman is fighting against turning over — center on five Cushman employees who did the appraisals for the Trump National Golf Club near Los Angeles, 40 Wall Street in Manhattan, and Seven Springs, a 212-acre estate in New York's Westchester County.

The five targeted appraisers, "have made repeated misstatements in the documents we've seen so far," concerning those three properties, a lawyer for the AG's office, Austin Thompson, argued in a Manhattan court hearing last month.

"We're worried about misstatements contained in [the five employees'] appraisals, and whether they have been repeated more often than we've already identified," Thompson said in court last month, in defending their subpoena.

In the case of the golf club and the Westchester estate, the Cushman appraisers "crafted a development timeline" for the properties and then "falsely attributed it to somebody else" as part of a tax-break scheme, Thompson said.

As for 40 Wall Street, the AG has alleged that Cushman appraisals of Trump's interest in the 70-story skyscraper more than doubled in the three years between 2012 and 2015. Trump used the higher
appraisal
in securing a $160 million loan.

James wants the three Cushman appraisers who handled 40 Wall Street to each turn over all of their other appraisals in the "Downtown Manhattan Office Market" between 2012 and 2015.

She has demanded six years of additional appraisals each from the Cushman employee who appraised Seven Springs, and from the employee who appraised the LA-area golf club.

Cushman attorney Sawnie A. McEntire has said in court hearings that the subpoenas are "outrageous and overbroad," and that complying would violate the privacy of some 1,000 clients unrelated to the Trump Organization.

And the clients would know. Each would have to be told that their appraisals had been subpoenaed, as required by their engagement contracts.

In arguments during a Manhattan court hearing on April 25, McEntire also said that Timothy Barnes, the Cushman employee who appraised Seven Springs, "actually aggressively pushed back" against the Trump Organization's demands.
...

So three appraisers were capable of manipulating the value of thousands of properties across Manhattan, & helping defraud banks. I can see why the company is fighting so hard; Criminal conspiracy, fraud, & a dozen other charges could see the entire board go to prison for Madoff kinds of time, & the company would disappear over night.

The only growth area on Real Estate would be building prisons to hold all the CEOs & CFOs who sought out the bogus valuations. Meanwhile Banks across the US would be frantically looking at the true valuation of the assets they'd set against loans.

[Biffer]

If you take that in combination with the upcoming crash in the commercial property market as hybrid working kicks in, a lot of very rich guys could become a lot less so very soon.

[fishfoodie]

If you take that in combination with the upcoming crash in the commercial property market as hybrid working kicks in, a lot of very rich guys could become a lot less so very soon.

On the plus side; if you're downsizing to a, 6' x 8' property, in a Federal housing institution, & you get free gym, & meals, how much money do you really need ?

[Uncle fester]

Big fat Don getting his arse handed to him. Makes the morning slightly better

What's this?

[petej]

Big fat Don getting his arse handed to him. Makes the morning slightly better

What's this?

I would guess Georgia republican governor primary.