The Official F1 Thread

[Grandpa]

There's absolute massive support for and rabid interest in F1 amongst South Africans of every type. I don't think people realize just how significant it is in Africa that there is a black F1 champion driver. That and we're completely desperate for any type of foreign investment to kickstart economic growth here.

I wonder if Lewis attracts support from the American black community as well?

That's exactly what I'm talking about. I watch rugby, soccer and F1 in a pub with black South Africans, black Zimbos, Malawians, Congolese and immigrants from all over the continent. They are hugely proud of Africans and people of African heritage who excel in the soccer, F1, basketball etc. Hamilton is a massive hero for them.

Probably why they want more F1 races in the US!

Bloody annoying this bouncing though.

[Mr Bungle]

There's absolute massive support for and rabid interest in F1 amongst South Africans of every type. I don't think people realize just how significant it is in Africa that there is a black F1 champion driver. That and we're completely desperate for any type of foreign investment to kickstart economic growth here.

I wonder if Lewis attracts support from the American black community as well?

Lewis lives in New York for part of the year. He's also close to the Williams sisters, Lebron amongst others.

I just hope they don't cram the calendar with yet more races. i think the number they have now in the year is enough.

[Grandpa]

There's absolute massive support for and rabid interest in F1 amongst South Africans of every type. I don't think people realize just how significant it is in Africa that there is a black F1 champion driver. That and we're completely desperate for any type of foreign investment to kickstart economic growth here.

I wonder if Lewis attracts support from the American black community as well?

Lewis lives in New York for part of the year. He's also close to the Williams sisters, Lebron amongst others.

I just hope they don't cram the calendar with yet more races. i think the number they have now in the year is enough.

Good point. Was thinking David Beckham was the UKs most famous sportsman.. but it's probably Lewis...

[Guy Smiley]

There's absolute massive support for and rabid interest in F1 amongst South Africans of every type. I don't think people realize just how significant it is in Africa that there is a black F1 champion driver. That and we're completely desperate for any type of foreign investment to kickstart economic growth here.

I wonder if Lewis attracts support from the American black community as well?

That's exactly what I'm talking about. I watch rugby, soccer and F1 in a pub with black South Africans, black Zimbos, Malawians, Congolese and immigrants from all over the continent. They are hugely proud of Africans and people of African heritage who excel in the soccer, F1, basketball etc. Hamilton is a massive hero for them.

That's pretty cool man, I can totally get onboard with you on that

[Guy Smiley]

I just hope they don't cram the calendar with yet more races. i think the number they have now in the year is enough.

I think they're going to overcook it. There's a whiff of good ole boys seeing a product and 'reimagining' it into somethin' bigger n better, y'all

[sturginho]

Great win for Cheko, Pato O'ward nearly made it a Mexican double in the Indy 500, pipped by former F1 driver, swede, Marcus Ericsson.

Daniel Suarez also flying the flag for Mexico in Nascar, he's only the 5th driver not born in the USA to win a race in the cup series along with Mario Andretti and Juan Pablo Montoya (can't remember the other two)

[SaintK]

Always thought Nelson Piquet was an arse! Also Verstappens future father in law!

Formula 1 has condemned three-time world champion Nelson Piquet for using racially abusive language about Lewis Hamilton.
The 69-year-old Brazilian, who won the world title in 1981, 1983 and 1987, used a racially offensive term in referring to Hamilton on a podcast.
An F1 statement said: "Discriminatory or racist language is unacceptable in any form and has no part in society.
"Lewis is an incredible ambassador for our sport and deserves respect."
It added: "His tireless efforts to increase diversity and inclusion are a lesson to many and something we are committed to at F1."

Piquet was discussing the accident between Hamilton and Red Bull driver Max Verstappen on the first lap of last year's British Grand Prix..

[Calculon]

What did he say?

[Lobby]

What did he say?

It was an interview in Brazil and so in Portuguese, but it’s being reported that the word he used to describe Hamilton is the Portuguese equivalent of N****r.

Piquet was interviewed by Motorsport Talk’s Ricardo Oliveira in Portuguese last November. The video of the interview was recently picked up by Brazilian media including CNN. Piquet was discussing Hamilton’s clash with Red Bull’s Max Verstappen at the British Grand Prix in 2021. He described the incident as "a joke", and said Hamilton had been "lucky" only Verstappen crashed. He then used the racist epithet in expressing his opinion that Hamilton had made a mistake.

The Brazilian driver has a record of issuing unpleasant comments, including, while he was driving, calling Ayrton Senna ‘the Sao Paulo taxi driver’ and accusing him of being gay. He also referred to Nigel Mansell’s wife as “ugly”. Last year Piquet drove as a chauffeur to Brazil’s president, Jair Bolsonaro, at the country’s Independence Day.

[Thor Sedan]

Always thought Nelson Piquet was an arse! Also Verstappens future father in law!

Formula 1 has condemned three-time world champion Nelson Piquet for using racially abusive language about Lewis Hamilton.
The 69-year-old Brazilian, who won the world title in 1981, 1983 and 1987, used a racially offensive term in referring to Hamilton on a podcast.
An F1 statement said: "Discriminatory or racist language is unacceptable in any form and has no part in society.
"Lewis is an incredible ambassador for our sport and deserves respect."
It added: "His tireless efforts to increase diversity and inclusion are a lesson to many and something we are committed to at F1."

Piquet was discussing the accident between Hamilton and Red Bull driver Max Verstappen on the first lap of last year's British Grand Prix..

Max will fit in well then.

[Calculon]

Is that fair? I don't really follow F1 so know little about Max, but if he thinks it's OK to refer to Lewis Hamilton as a nigger it would be very disappointing.

[Grandpa]

Is that fair? I don't really follow F1 so know little about Max, but if he thinks it's OK to refer to Lewis Hamilton as a nigger it would be very disappointing.

Unfortunate that his girlfriend liked a post defending the racist comment.. the defence being that their gran used the term all the time...

https://thesportsrush.com/f1-news-damn- ... d-comment/

[Hugo]

Is that fair? I don't really follow F1 so know little about Max, but if he thinks it's OK to refer to Lewis Hamilton as a nigger it would be very disappointing.

Unfortunate that his girlfriend liked a post defending the racist comment.. the defence being that their gran used the term all the time...

https://thesportsrush.com/f1-news-damn- ... d-comment/

What was the actual word used? Negrito or the Portuguese equivalent?

Not to defend Piquet but I know there are terms used in Latin America toward dark skinned people that are not intended to be derogatory. They are of course racist but the user does not intend it as a racial slur, its just what has been considered socially acceptable within that culture.

[Grandpa]

Is that fair? I don't really follow F1 so know little about Max, but if he thinks it's OK to refer to Lewis Hamilton as a nigger it would be very disappointing.

Unfortunate that his girlfriend liked a post defending the racist comment.. the defence being that their gran used the term all the time...

https://thesportsrush.com/f1-news-damn- ... d-comment/

What was the actual word used? Negrito or the Portuguese equivalent?

Not to defend Piquet but I know there are terms used in Latin America toward dark skinned people that are not intended to be derogatory. They are of course racist but the user does not intend it as a racial slur, its just what has been considered socially acceptable within that culture.

But why use any term? He knows who Lewis is...why use something referencing his skin colour as opposed to his name?

[Hugo]

Unfortunate that his girlfriend liked a post defending the racist comment.. the defence being that their gran used the term all the time...

https://thesportsrush.com/f1-news-damn- ... d-comment/

What was the actual word used? Negrito or the Portuguese equivalent?

Not to defend Piquet but I know there are terms used in Latin America toward dark skinned people that are not intended to be derogatory. They are of course racist but the user does not intend it as a racial slur, its just what has been considered socially acceptable within that culture.

But why use any term? He knows who Lewis is...why use something referencing his skin colour as opposed to his name?

I don't know why he would use that term. It might have been a dogwhistle type of thing but maybe its commonplace and not frowned upon in Brazil? Its hard to gauge intent.

[Grandpa]

What was the actual word used? Negrito or the Portuguese equivalent?

Not to defend Piquet but I know there are terms used in Latin America toward dark skinned people that are not intended to be derogatory. They are of course racist but the user does not intend it as a racial slur, its just what has been considered socially acceptable within that culture.

But why use any term? He knows who Lewis is...why use something referencing his skin colour as opposed to his name?

I don't know why he would use that term. It might have been a dogwhistle type of thing but maybe its commonplace and not frowned upon in Brazil? Its hard to gauge intent.

Except Nelson has history when it comes to controversial comments. Personal attacks etc.

[Hugo]

But why use any term? He knows who Lewis is...why use something referencing his skin colour as opposed to his name?

I don't know why he would use that term. It might have been a dogwhistle type of thing but maybe its commonplace and not frowned upon in Brazil? Its hard to gauge intent.

Except Nelson has history when it comes to controversial comments. Personal attacks etc.

Yeah, I've just been reading his wiki page.

Tbh he's 70 years old and spent his formative years living in a right wing military dictatorship in a country with a very dark colonial past - Brazil was one of the last nations in the Americas to end the practice of slavery (1880s) and I think it imported more African slaves than anyone else.

His comments are probably a reflection of growing up in thst society and the pervasive problems of racism in F1 that Hamilton has flagged many times over.

[Guy Smiley]

Red Bull have sacked Juri Vips for the same reason...

using racist language.

[Kawazaki]

Should be worth watching Horner squirm when he's asked why Red Bull didn't come out and condemn the remarks by Piquet like all the other teams have. And like Red Bull did before in support of Latifi.

[fishfoodie]

If anyone had any doubts over the Halo, the debate over them ended today !

[Kawazaki]

If anyone had any doubts over the Halo, the debate over them ended today !

Nissany

[ia801310]

Car vaulted over the tyre barrier which will be a worry.

Thought that accident was Russell's fault but will probably be treated as a racing incident.

Bad luck for Zhou, he's been driving well recently.


There were protestors on the track but the Red Flag put paid to them and they have been removed and arrested.

I do wonder if Just Stop Oil are secretly funded by BP/Shell/Exxon etc as the only thing they seem to do is make the environmental movement look silly.

[mos_eisely_]

Car vaulted over the tyre barrier which will be a worry.

Thought that accident was Russell's fault but will probably be treated as a racing incident.

Bad luck for Zhou, he's been driving well recently.

Zhou was saying before the race he was really excited as its the first race his parents have been able to come to

Amazing that in one day the halo has saved two drivers, and that Zhou has no fractures (although TV coverage has just suggested thats not completely confirmed)

[ia801310]

Car vaulted over the tyre barrier which will be a worry.

Thought that accident was Russell's fault but will probably be treated as a racing incident.

Bad luck for Zhou, he's been driving well recently.

Zhou was saying before the race he was really excited as its the first race his parents have been able to come to

Amazing that in one day the halo has saved two drivers, and that Zhou has no fractures (although TV coverage has just suggested thats not completely confirmed)

Picture of Zhou trapped in his car wedged between the fence and barrier.

[fishfoodie]

He used up 8 of his 9 lives today !

The Halo saved him when he was sliding along the ground & thru the gravel, but it was gone when he was flung into the catch fencing, so he was so lucky he wasn't decapitated by the armco when the car fell into that gap

[Kawazaki]

He used up 8 of his 9 lives today !

The Halo saved him when he was sliding along the ground & thru the gravel, but it was gone when he was flung into the catch fencing, so he was so lucky he wasn't decapitated by the armco when the car fell into that gap

Eh? The halo wasn't 'gone'.

[Kawazaki]

Very lucky there was a red flag after the first corner. Climate change protesters were sitting on the other side of the track. Would have been carnage.

[fishfoodie]

He used up 8 of his 9 lives today !

The Halo saved him when he was sliding along the ground & thru the gravel, but it was gone when he was flung into the catch fencing, so he was so lucky he wasn't decapitated by the armco when the car fell into that gap

Eh? The halo wasn't 'gone'.

Yeah, I just looked at the crash again, & I though it was gone, it was hard to see with the dust, & colour scheme, but in freeze frame its still in place. Incredible engineering !

[Insane_Homer]

[GogLais]

I don't know why he would use that term. It might have been a dogwhistle type of thing but maybe its commonplace and not frowned upon in Brazil? Its hard to gauge intent.

Except Nelson has history when it comes to controversial comments. Personal attacks etc.

Yeah, I've just been reading his wiki page.

Tbh he's 70 years old and spent his formative years living in a right wing military dictatorship in a country with a very dark colonial past - Brazil was one of the last nations in the Americas to end the practice of slavery (1880s) and I think it imported more African slaves than anyone else.

His comments are probably a reflection of growing up in thst society and the pervasive problems of racism in F1 that Hamilton has flagged many times over.

Good article by India Knight in the Sunday Times - "I do not believe that an old person can happily evolve to use a microwave or a smartphone but be powerless when it comes to altering their vocab".

[assfly]

That was one of the most entertaining races I've seen in a long time. What a great track. Glad everyone is ok at the end.

[sturginho]

That was one of the most entertaining races I've seen in a long time. What a great track. Glad everyone is ok at the end.

As a ferrari fan it was a disaster, whoever is in charge of strategy needs to be taken out and shot

[assfly]

fair enough, I can see why you think that! Still, nice to see Sainz get a win.

[Guy Smiley]

That was one of the most entertaining races I've seen in a long time. What a great track. Glad everyone is ok at the end.

As a ferrari fan it was a disaster, whoever is in charge of strategy needs to be taken out and shot

I don’t think Ferrari had a lot of choice in how they played it. The Safety Car came just a little bit too late to help LeClerc, they couldn’t do much about that. Perhaps they could have ordered Sainz to let him past in that first stint but we saw soon after that that he didn’t have the pace to get away once he had clear air.

The first start was a worry for them though. That was a disaster.

[Guy Smiley]

[Lobby]

That was one of the most entertaining races I've seen in a long time. What a great track. Glad everyone is ok at the end.

As a ferrari fan it was a disaster, whoever is in charge of strategy needs to be taken out and shot

I don’t think Ferrari had a lot of choice in how they played it. The Safety Car came just a little bit too late to help LeClerc, they couldn’t do much about that. Perhaps they could have ordered Sainz to let him past in that first stint but we saw soon after that that he didn’t have the pace to get away once he had clear air.

The first start was a worry for them though. That was a disaster.

Before the Safety Car, Hamilton was chasing both Ferraris down on fresher tyres; he also appeared to be getting more out of the hard tyres than them.

The Safety Car was a disaster for LeClerc, but was the reason Sainz won. Without it they might have finished 2 and 3, rather than 1 and 4.

The main beneficiary of the SC was Perez, who was miles behind until that point.

[SaintK]

Well,well,well!!!

Former Formula 1 boss Bernie Ecclestone will be charged with fraud by false representation following an investigation into overseas assets believed to be worth more than £400m.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/62119689

[Mr Bungle]

I don't know why he would use that term. It might have been a dogwhistle type of thing but maybe its commonplace and not frowned upon in Brazil? Its hard to gauge intent.

Except Nelson has history when it comes to controversial comments. Personal attacks etc.

Yeah, I've just been reading his wiki page.

Tbh he's 70 years old and spent his formative years living in a right wing military dictatorship in a country with a very dark colonial past - Brazil was one of the last nations in the Americas to end the practice of slavery (1880s) and I think it imported more African slaves than anyone else.

His comments are probably a reflection of growing up in thst society and the pervasive problems of racism in F1 that Hamilton has flagged many times over.

I work with a 40 year old Brazilian. He said there's no excuse for using such a term, no acceptable alternate translation, that he knew what he was saying was inflammatory and that he has form. He's not well respected in Brazil. Talking ill of Senna over the years will get the public against you for sure.

[Guy Smiley]

Seb Vettel famously avoided any personal social
Media accounts… until now.




What a legend.

‘My favourite colour is blue’

[Kawazaki]

He doesn't look happy does he?!

Fair play on him though, he's made a huge fortune, won four WDCs and got out with mostly a positive reputation*.






* I have to admit that I didn't like the version of Vettel when he was winning his championships. Taking out Webber and then blaming him for the collision, Multi-21 etc were elite shithousery.