Oh, it was a mistake. Complex situation and he called it wrong. I’ve never thought otherwise. And it is entirely correct to say that we put ourselves in a stupid position by throwing a crucial line out long and screwing it up as a result. It stuck in the craw because of Joubert’s behaviour, the insanely high stakes, and the fact that it could have been corrected if the footage had been checked, as Laidlaw was pleading for Joubert to do. (I recall there may have been a technical rule which meant he couldn’t, but if there was then it was/is wrong).Slick wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:23 pmI agree. I remember it well, I had to go out for a walk straight after the final whistle even though we had a house full of friends and was spitting blood. Couldn’t sleep that night at all, but come the next day I was defending Joubert from some of the worst abuses. No way he did it on purpose, it was a bad mistake, but that’s allTichtheid wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:46 am
I moan my face off at referees during a game with the best of them, but once it's done, or about an hour after the match, it's done.
Having said that, a decision like that in the 79th minute is galling, but these things happen, it was a genuine mistake.
I think it was brought into sharp focus by the way he ran off the pitch at the end, rather than shake hands with the players.
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There was a rule that meant he couldn't. But as I remember, Nigel Owens had over ruled that a few weeks earlier and asked the TMO to check something he normally wouldn't "because I want to get it right", so there was precedentYr Alban wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:43 amOh, it was a mistake. Complex situation and he called it wrong. I’ve never thought otherwise. And it is entirely correct to say that we put ourselves in a stupid position by throwing a crucial line out long and screwing it up as a result. It stuck in the craw because of Joubert’s behaviour, the insanely high stakes, and the fact that it could have been corrected if the footage had been checked, as Laidlaw was pleading for Joubert to do. (I recall there may have been a technical rule which meant he couldn’t, but if there was then it was/is wrong).Slick wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:23 pmI agree. I remember it well, I had to go out for a walk straight after the final whistle even though we had a house full of friends and was spitting blood. Couldn’t sleep that night at all, but come the next day I was defending Joubert from some of the worst abuses. No way he did it on purpose, it was a bad mistake, but that’s allTichtheid wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:46 am
I moan my face off at referees during a game with the best of them, but once it's done, or about an hour after the match, it's done.
Having said that, a decision like that in the 79th minute is galling, but these things happen, it was a genuine mistake.
I think it was brought into sharp focus by the way he ran off the pitch at the end, rather than shake hands with the players.
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Dragging up the Joubert episode, how could you, you cunts. I'd nearly erased it from my memory.
we had a disaster of a ref two seasons back who was convinced that the tackled player had to move away after the tackle. Blew penalty after penalty against us for the crime of the ball carrier not rolling away after placing the ball, then gave 3 yellow cards for dissent.
we had a disaster of a ref two seasons back who was convinced that the tackled player had to move away after the tackle. Blew penalty after penalty against us for the crime of the ball carrier not rolling away after placing the ball, then gave 3 yellow cards for dissent.
clydecloggie wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:45 am Dragging up the Joubert episode, how could you, you cunts. I'd nearly erased it from my memory.
we had a disaster of a ref two seasons back who was convinced that the tackled player had to move away after the tackle. Blew penalty after penalty against us for the crime of the ball carrier not rolling away after placing the ball, then gave 3 yellow cards for dissent.
https://www.world.rugby/the-game/laws/law/14Law 14: 7. Tackled players must immediately: b) Move away from the ball or get up.
Wha daur meddle wi' me?
I love that the game is customarily played & refereed so completely differently to the way the laws say it should be played and refereed that actually applying the laws as they is wrote qualifies as one of the worst pieces of officiating you'll ever see.
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