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In 20 mins....
I love watching little children running and screaming, playing hide and seek in the playground.
They don't know I'm using blanks..
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Which channel?

Or link?
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Scrubbed - pressurization failure
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Think it’s being abandoned
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Scrubbed..using it as a full set dress rehearsal now, countdown will stop at 10 secs..

If it was in Russia, who knows what a stray cigarette might do...
I love watching little children running and screaming, playing hide and seek in the playground.
They don't know I'm using blanks..
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Is it on today?
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Ymx wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:46 pmIs it on today?
We'll find out in the next 90 mins.

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Elons Twitter and Ukraine antics have moved me to the 'he's a dickhead' column but I'm NGL - I am excited for this.
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Bang!
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Fred title made me think of this

https://starship.rs/
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A Rapid Unplanned Disassembly
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Musk didn’t look best pleased.

You wouldn’t be though, would you. How many billion did that cost him.
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Wonder if the range officer self destructed it once it went out of control.

Lost a couple of engines on the way up to.

Typical space X destructive testing.
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Ymx wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 1:42 pm Musk didn’t look best pleased.

You wouldn’t be though, would you. How many billion did that cost him.
Best case the thing smashed into the ocean downrange anyway - I think he will be reasonably pleased with what happened. Got almost two minutes of flight data and the launchpad is intact.
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Was the rocket not designed to be re-used/land?
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Ymx wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 1:56 pm Was the rocket not designed to be re-used/land?
This one wasn't going to land anyway
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tc27 wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 1:43 pm Wonder if the range officer self destructed it once it went out of control.

Lost a couple of engines on the way up to.

Typical space X destructive testing.
My guess is it was self destructed.

Losing a couple of engines - oh well, only 31 left.
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not_english wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:03 pm
Ymx wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 1:56 pm Was the rocket not designed to be re-used/land?
This one wasn't going to land anyway
Designed as an expensive firework then?
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not_english wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:03 pm
Ymx wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 1:56 pm Was the rocket not designed to be re-used/land?
This one wasn't going to land anyway
Mission accomplished
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Ymx wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:23 pm
not_english wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:03 pm
Ymx wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 1:56 pm Was the rocket not designed to be re-used/land?
This one wasn't going to land anyway
Designed as an expensive firework then?
Well I think it was supposed to end up in the ocean
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Slick wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:33 pm
not_english wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:03 pm
Ymx wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 1:56 pm Was the rocket not designed to be re-used/land?
This one wasn't going to land anyway
Mission accomplished
:lol:

It landed in a fair few different zip codes.
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EnergiseR2 wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:45 pm Is there anything that man can't fuck up
But hey, they learned a lot!!!
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SpaceX's approach to design and testing is to build it and try it out and expect most of the first versions to blow up or fail. Starship is the biggest rocket ever built and is pushing the envelope of design in many areas.

Secondly SpaceX/Musk where saying before this that just clearing the launch tower would be a success with this first version.

Easy to mock the failures but Space X absolutely now dominates the commercial and manned launch market with Falcon 9 which went through the same process.


Elon is a dick but SpaceX is very much a success and what happened today was a part of their process.
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tc27 wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:56 pm SpaceX's approach to design and testing is to build it and try it out and expect most of the first versions to blow up or fail. Starship is the biggest rocket ever built and is pushing the envelope of design in many areas.

Secondly SpaceX/Musk where saying before this that just clearing the launch tower would be a success with this first version.

Easy to mock the failures but Space X absolutely now dominates the commercial and manned launch market with Falcon 9 which went through the same process.


Elon is a dick but SpaceX is very much a success and what happened today was a part of their process.
Must be nice having the money to (literally) burn.

Which is what sets Musk apart - his ability to raise credit is utterly incredible.
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inactionman wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:01 pm
tc27 wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:56 pm SpaceX's approach to design and testing is to build it and try it out and expect most of the first versions to blow up or fail. Starship is the biggest rocket ever built and is pushing the envelope of design in many areas.

Secondly SpaceX/Musk where saying before this that just clearing the launch tower would be a success with this first version.

Easy to mock the failures but Space X absolutely now dominates the commercial and manned launch market with Falcon 9 which went through the same process.


Elon is a dick but SpaceX is very much a success and what happened today was a part of their process.
Must be nice having the money to (literally) burn.

Which is what sets Musk apart - his ability to raise credit is utterly incredible.
He has a strong track record of successfully disrupting existing markets and making huge wodges of cash. That's about as good as it gets for investors.
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Dinsdale Piranha wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:14 pm
inactionman wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:01 pm
tc27 wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:56 pm SpaceX's approach to design and testing is to build it and try it out and expect most of the first versions to blow up or fail. Starship is the biggest rocket ever built and is pushing the envelope of design in many areas.

Secondly SpaceX/Musk where saying before this that just clearing the launch tower would be a success with this first version.

Easy to mock the failures but Space X absolutely now dominates the commercial and manned launch market with Falcon 9 which went through the same process.


Elon is a dick but SpaceX is very much a success and what happened today was a part of their process.
Must be nice having the money to (literally) burn.

Which is what sets Musk apart - his ability to raise credit is utterly incredible.
He has a strong track record of successfully disrupting existing markets and making huge wodges of cash. That's about as good as it gets for investors.
It took a while for that to happen - and he got a lot more leeway than pretty much any other person/company in the engineering world that I've ever seen. He didn't have a huge record before tesla, but he got the investors bought in.

That's really his trick - he took the loss-leading, crazy cash-waving world of silicon valley investment and got it to apply to more traditional engineering. It pisses me a off a bit, I'm an engineer by trade and so many of the best ideas I've worked on have been kyboshed by inability to finance/see a pretty near-term ROI. He in no way, shape or form invented any of the things he's doing, just got money to back them at huge scale, but on the flipside it's always inspiring to see what can be done.

Shame he's a dick, but maybe it needed a dick to get it done.
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Think they need a stronger launchpad.

The engines made a big crater in the launch pad and sent chunks of concrete flying.

https://twitter.com/SemrauDylan/status/ ... 64293?s=20



https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1649062784167030785

Reports that some of the bits of launchpad disabled some of the engines.

and there is this better view
https://twitter.com/LabPadre/status/164 ... 97440?s=20
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inactionman wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:26 pm
Dinsdale Piranha wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:14 pm
inactionman wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:01 pm

Must be nice having the money to (literally) burn.

Which is what sets Musk apart - his ability to raise credit is utterly incredible.
He has a strong track record of successfully disrupting existing markets and making huge wodges of cash. That's about as good as it gets for investors.
It took a while for that to happen - and he got a lot more leeway than pretty much any other person/company in the engineering world that I've ever seen. He didn't have a huge record before tesla, but he got the investors bought in.

That's really his trick - he took the loss-leading, crazy cash-waving world of silicon valley investment and got it to apply to more traditional engineering. It pisses me a off a bit, I'm an engineer by trade and so many of the best ideas I've worked on have been kyboshed by inability to finance/see a pretty near-term ROI. He in no way, shape or form invented any of the things he's doing, just got money to back them at huge scale, but on the flipside it's always inspiring to see what can be done.

Shame he's a dick, but maybe it needed a dick to get it done.
Exactly this.

Silicon Valley investors are looking for technology that will either completely disrupt an existing market or create a new one. It's all grand vision stuff. You only need one of these to be successful to cover the costs of many, many failures.

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world around him; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man" - George Bernard Shaw.
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Glaston wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:57 pm Think they need a stronger launchpad.

The engines made a big crater in the launch pad and sent chunks of concrete flying.

https://twitter.com/SemrauDylan/status/ ... 64293?s=20



https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1649062784167030785

Reports that some of the bits of launchpad disabled some of the engines.

and there is this better view
https://twitter.com/LabPadre/status/164 ... 97440?s=20
They are going to have to do major work on that launchpad - big flame trench and water suppression systems.
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EnergiseR2 wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:57 pm Musk lads are fusking hilarious. He blows up the launch pad, surrounding vehicles and the actual rocket vehicle itself. Comments: Wow bro can't believe you pulled it off

Ehhhhh lads
You can think Musk is a twat but not misunderstand how Space X test stuff.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/04 ... a-success/
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tc27 wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:16 pm
Glaston wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:57 pm Think they need a stronger launchpad.

The engines made a big crater in the launch pad and sent chunks of concrete flying.

https://twitter.com/SemrauDylan/status/ ... 64293?s=20



https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1649062784167030785

Reports that some of the bits of launchpad disabled some of the engines.

and there is this better view
https://twitter.com/LabPadre/status/164 ... 97440?s=20
They are going to have to do major work on that launchpad - big flame trench and water suppression systems.
It was Musk's decision to not have a flame trench.

Taking out the launchpad was very much not the plan so it's never not funny watching people fall off themselves to agree with the apparent success of the mission
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JM2K6 wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:25 am
tc27 wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:16 pm
Glaston wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:57 pm Think they need a stronger launchpad.

The engines made a big crater in the launch pad and sent chunks of concrete flying.

https://twitter.com/SemrauDylan/status/ ... 64293?s=20



https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1649062784167030785

Reports that some of the bits of launchpad disabled some of the engines.

and there is this better view
https://twitter.com/LabPadre/status/164 ... 97440?s=20
They are going to have to do major work on that launchpad - big flame trench and water suppression systems.
It was Musk's decision to not have a flame trench.

Taking out the launchpad was very much not the plan so it's never not funny watching people fall off themselves to agree with the apparent success of the mission
One good thread about what is used at the kourou Space port. the cost cutting will end up an expensive one

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JM2K6 wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:25 am
tc27 wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:16 pm
Glaston wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:57 pm Think they need a stronger launchpad.

The engines made a big crater in the launch pad and sent chunks of concrete flying.

https://twitter.com/SemrauDylan/status/ ... 64293?s=20



https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1649062784167030785

Reports that some of the bits of launchpad disabled some of the engines.

and there is this better view
https://twitter.com/LabPadre/status/164 ... 97440?s=20
They are going to have to do major work on that launchpad - big flame trench and water suppression systems.
It was Musk's decision to not have a flame trench.

Taking out the launchpad was very much not the plan so it's never not funny watching people fall off themselves to agree with the apparent success of the mission
and completely in keeping with his being an arrogant twat, & deciding that he, ALWAYS, knew better that others, even if they'd been doing it for decades.

It's the same with the shit quality standards of Tesla, because he decided he knew better than the Japanese car manufacturers
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My bet would be it's a planning permission issue.

At one time he didn't have permission for what has been built there, he got permission for something minimal then ignored the law and built whatever. I don't know if that was ever resolved. But if he starts building more and diverting water sources, there'll be planning implications. The additional planning problem is he decided to build all this in the middle of a nature reserve.

The floating launch platform seemed mostly about avoiding planning law.
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