So, coronavirus...

[dpedin]

Here is JCVI recommendation re flu vaccinations

'JCVI is of the view that whilst there would be a clear health benefit in vaccinating low risk 50-64 year olds, it is uncertain whether this would be cost effective. As in recent years, JCVI supports vaccination in this group in principle if funding is available but remains concerned that it might not meet strict cost-effectiveness requirements and could divert from more cost-effective interventions. The overall priority should be to extend the childhood programme in secondary schools as this would be more cost effective and likely to have a greater impact on morbidity and mortality compared with vaccinating 50- 64 year olds.'

Also

'For JCVI to formally revisit the question of whether to routinely vaccinate the low risk 50-64 year old age group an up-to-date impact and cost effectiveness analysis would be required. However, there is currently too much uncertainty regarding the impacts of COVID-19, influenza, and behaviour changes within the population for a robust cost effectiveness analysis in the short term. Therefore, a pragmatic decision will be required as to whether to continue to vaccinate low risk 50-64 year olds in the 2023/24 season, if funding is available, in the context of the uncertainty of a potentially more intense influenza season, and continued COVID-19 circulation, as well as operational considerations.'

So it would seem their decision has been a 'pragmatic one' without any formal impact and cost benefit analysis, in effect a best guess? Also for 'operational considerations' read can the NHS and GPs deliver the vaccination programme, doe sit have capacity to do so, it would seem they have their doubts. Well it looks like fingers crossed and hope we have a quiet flu season which doesn't impact too much on the NHS.

[Sandstorm]

Covid and flu jabs are expensive. Not just the drugs, but the GP surgeries charge NHS to administer them.
If they can get away with not offering 12 million jabs in Winter 2023, it's a big win for the bean counters.

[petej]

Covid and flu jabs are expensive. Not just the drugs, but the GP surgeries charge NHS to administer them.
If they can get away with not offering 12 million jabs in Winter 2023, it's a big win for the bean counters.

Could be a short term win for the bean counters if we have a bad flu season but if it is a different set of bean counters then they probably couldn't give a shit.

[Sandstorm]

Covid and flu jabs are expensive. Not just the drugs, but the GP surgeries charge NHS to administer them.
If they can get away with not offering 12 million jabs in Winter 2023, it's a big win for the bean counters.

Could be a short term win for the bean counters if we have a bad flu season but if it is a different set of bean counters then they probably couldn't give a shit.

Yup

[Simian]

Ok Karen you are right.

The government said in May that people in England under 65 would not be offered flu jabs this winter. It means about 12 million people aged 50 to 64 are no longer eligible for either free flu or Covid-19 vaccines.

Last year everyone over 50 was offered both. The Covid jab is not available privately in the UK, so those ineligible this year will be unable to buy the jab themselves.

I'm lost as to what your point is to be honest.

As far as I can tell, their point is that you were right?

But are apparently called Karen?

I’m more surprised by the former than the latter, tbh ;)

[Line6 HXFX]

I have covid having avoided it up till now (even with a nurse Mrs, who works/worked on Covid wards).

Feels like my brain is melting.
Sweating profusely.
Coughing.
Headaches..

I am also now the proud owner of a Micro Penis.

Shrunk my dick, it has disappeared practically...scary shit.


NPR..the place to come if you want the real skinny.(..trying to slip into a 1920s journalist character.. but my brain hurts man..).

[Biffer]

Here is JCVI recommendation re flu vaccinations

'JCVI is of the view that whilst there would be a clear health benefit in vaccinating low risk 50-64 year olds, it is uncertain whether this would be cost effective. As in recent years, JCVI supports vaccination in this group in principle if funding is available but remains concerned that it might not meet strict cost-effectiveness requirements and could divert from more cost-effective interventions. The overall priority should be to extend the childhood programme in secondary schools as this would be more cost effective and likely to have a greater impact on morbidity and mortality compared with vaccinating 50- 64 year olds.'

Also

'For JCVI to formally revisit the question of whether to routinely vaccinate the low risk 50-64 year old age group an up-to-date impact and cost effectiveness analysis would be required. However, there is currently too much uncertainty regarding the impacts of COVID-19, influenza, and behaviour changes within the population for a robust cost effectiveness analysis in the short term. Therefore, a pragmatic decision will be required as to whether to continue to vaccinate low risk 50-64 year olds in the 2023/24 season, if funding is available, in the context of the uncertainty of a potentially more intense influenza season, and continued COVID-19 circulation, as well as operational considerations.'

So it would seem their decision has been a 'pragmatic one' without any formal impact and cost benefit analysis, in effect a best guess? Also for 'operational considerations' read can the NHS and GPs deliver the vaccination programme, doe sit have capacity to do so, it would seem they have their doubts. Well it looks like fingers crossed and hope we have a quiet flu season which doesn't impact too much on the NHS.

Suggests to me that JCVI are, between the lines, saying govt spending on preventative healthcare isn't good enough.

[Ymx]

I have covid having avoided it up till now (even with a nurse Mrs, who works/worked on Covid wards).

Feels like my brain is melting.
Sweating profusely.
Coughing.
Headaches..

I am also now the proud owner of a Micro Penis.

Shrunk my dick, it has disappeared practically...scary shit.


NPR..the place to come if you want the real skinny.(..trying to slip into a 1920s journalist character.. but my brain hurts man..).

WTAF ??

[Line6 HXFX]

Its not funny...hopefully it's temporary (when you are seriously ill your dick shrinks)...but it is a common side effect.


Can be permanent.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north- ... n-22735894

Shit..

[Line6 HXFX]

Jesus I have had covid for years

Hah..

[C69]

Jesus I have had covid for years

Not that's just your Irish genes

[Ymx]

Which poster is this??



What a nutter

[Biffer]

Which poster is this??



What a nutter

Are you still on the 'what's right with masks now was right three years ago' bullshit?

[Ymx]

Wut?

Some nutter split with his missus (Aug 2023) because she’s just now stopped wearing a mask.

I really thought it must be parody, but it might actually not be.

[Sandstorm]

Wut?

Some nutter split with his missus (Aug 2023) because she’s just now stopped wearing a mask.

I really thought it must be parody, but it might actually not be.

I think she had shitty teeth and bad breath.

[David in Gwent]

I've just helped dispose of 50K plus individual masks that a company had stock piled during the Covid years.

It was quite cathartic.

[David in Gwent]

Did anyone else here not have a single vaccine or booster?

[Sandstorm]

Did anyone else here not have a single vaccine or booster?

Troll is obvious

[David in Gwent]

Did anyone else here not have a single vaccine or booster?

Troll is obvious

Not at all, now the dust has settled it's cool to talk, right?

I supported, thoroughly, everyone's right to have them or not too have them.

What people do with their own bodies is entirely up to them.

[petej]

Did anyone else here not have a single vaccine or booster?

Troll is obvious

Not at all, now the dust has settled it's cool to talk, right?

I supported, thoroughly, everyone's right to have them or not too have them.

What people do with their own bodies is entirely up to them.

Upto a point. There are responsibilities to your family, friends, work colleagues and society as a whole. The vaccines were a short cut out of the pandemic which meant less people getting ill, lowering impact on an over stressed health service etc... if a significant proportion (40-50% particularly in the more at risk demographics) of the population had rejected them then the pandemic lasts longer with more people getting ill, a health service more stretched and unable to treat other conditions, more jobs lost, kids not in school for longer etc... as the risk diminished from covid the less shits I gave about people not having the vaccine so I couldn't care less if people had boosters or not.

[David in Gwent]

Troll is obvious

Not at all, now the dust has settled it's cool to talk, right?

I supported, thoroughly, everyone's right to have them or not too have them.

What people do with their own bodies is entirely up to them.

Upto a point. There are responsibilities to your family, friends, work colleagues and society as a whole. The vaccines were a short cut out of the pandemic which meant less people getting ill, lowering impact on an over stressed health service etc... if a significant proportion (40-50% particularly in the more at risk demographics) of the population had rejected them then the pandemic lasts longer with more people getting ill, a health service more stretched and unable to treat other conditions, more jobs lost, kids not in school for longer etc... as the risk diminished from covid the less shits I gave about people not having the vaccine so I couldn't care less if people had boosters or not.

Look, some may see this as trolling, it's really not, just my honest opinion.

Once it became clear that, despite being told the opposite in the early days, you could still transmit and still catch the covid after being vaccinated I just didn't want to take it. Being brutally honest, they way they created it so quickly also set off spidey senses.

I may have had a different mindset if I had been living in close quarters with people who were "at risk" but I didn't.

However, I don't agree with "upto a point" it really is my body and I will retain autonomy.

[Tichtheid]

This is from the Canadian Medical Association Journal April 2022



We found that the risk of infection was markedly higher among unvaccinated people than among vaccinated people under all mixing assumptions. The contact-adjusted contribution of unvaccinated people to infection risk was disproportionate, with unvaccinated people contributing to infections among those who were vaccinated at a rate higher than would have been expected based on contact numbers alone. We found that as like-with-like mixing increased, attack rates among vaccinated people decreased from 15% to 10% (and increased from 62% to 79% among unvaccinated people), but the contact-adjusted contribution to risk among vaccinated people derived from contact with unvaccinated people increased.

Interpretation:

Although risk associated with avoiding vaccination during a virulent pandemic accrues chiefly to people who are unvaccinated, their choices affect risk of viral infection among those who are vaccinated in a manner that is disproportionate to the portion of unvaccinated people in the population.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9054088/


I believe that people do have the right to decide if they want a vaccine or not, but they should then act in a responsible manner and not mix with the general population if they choose to not get vaccinated.


I'm going to unashamedly cut and run here.


On another note, I'm being referred to a Long Covid clinic - the shortness of breath and cough won't go away.

[Line6 HXFX]

Now day 4 of covid. Today, I shit my pants, fainted, puked up the entire bile contents of my stomach, just like a pint of yellow liquid..had violent diahoria and had some really scary moments where by I couldn't clear my chest of phlem, as it got caught in my wind pipe making me puke some more.

My next door neighbour has just been taken to hospital with covid. The ambulance was outside for ages and ages...not a great sign.

This new covid strain is virulent and just awful.

[Tichtheid]

Now day 4 of covid. Today, I shit my pants, fainted, puked up the entire bile contents of my stomach, just like a pint of yellow liquid..had violent diahoria and had some really scary moments where by I couldn't clear my chest of phlem, as it got caught in my wind pipe making me puke some more.

My next door neighbour has just been taken to hospital with covid. The ambulance was outside for ages and ages...not a great sign.

This new covid strain is virulent and just awful.

It's shit.

but good luck

[Slick]

Not at all, now the dust has settled it's cool to talk, right?

I supported, thoroughly, everyone's right to have them or not too have them.

What people do with their own bodies is entirely up to them.

Upto a point. There are responsibilities to your family, friends, work colleagues and society as a whole. The vaccines were a short cut out of the pandemic which meant less people getting ill, lowering impact on an over stressed health service etc... if a significant proportion (40-50% particularly in the more at risk demographics) of the population had rejected them then the pandemic lasts longer with more people getting ill, a health service more stretched and unable to treat other conditions, more jobs lost, kids not in school for longer etc... as the risk diminished from covid the less shits I gave about people not having the vaccine so I couldn't care less if people had boosters or not.

Look, some may see this as trolling, it's really not, just my honest opinion.

Once it became clear that, despite being told the opposite in the early days, you could still transmit and still catch the covid after being vaccinated I just didn't want to take it. Being brutally honest, they way they created it so quickly also set off spidey senses.

I may have had a different mindset if I had been living in close quarters with people who were "at risk" but I didn't.

However, I don't agree with "upto a point" it really is my body and I will retain autonomy.

I see it as really fucking dull to be honest. Well done you, why do you need to tell us all?

[Line6 HXFX]

Man those stories of people being carted off to be put on respirators, begging the Dr's to give them the vaccine, when it is too late..is heartbreaking.

The amount of people who have been fucking killed because of stupid conspiracy theories is also just f'king tragic.

There are lots of people who should be in jail.

If you were on Facebook spreading any of this anti vax bullshit, you have blood on your hands.

Get the impression, having talked to many of them...they would really like that fact.

[Ymx]

I had the shots, but we elected for our daughter not to have them. In part because she already had had it, and it really was not much to write home about. Certainly not refrys experience.

She stood nothing to gain, only risk. Everyone had had ample opportunity to be vaccinated themselves.

[Line6 HXFX]

Yeah, it must be a great holiday expedience, when you get sacked after someone from work takes your pic, of you in your speedos with a rum and coke.

[petej]

Not at all, now the dust has settled it's cool to talk, right?

I supported, thoroughly, everyone's right to have them or not too have them.

What people do with their own bodies is entirely up to them.

Upto a point. There are responsibilities to your family, friends, work colleagues and society as a whole. The vaccines were a short cut out of the pandemic which meant less people getting ill, lowering impact on an over stressed health service etc... if a significant proportion (40-50% particularly in the more at risk demographics) of the population had rejected them then the pandemic lasts longer with more people getting ill, a health service more stretched and unable to treat other conditions, more jobs lost, kids not in school for longer etc... as the risk diminished from covid the less shits I gave about people not having the vaccine so I couldn't care less if people had boosters or not.

Look, some may see this as trolling, it's really not, just my honest opinion.

Once it became clear that, despite being told the opposite in the early days, you could still transmit and still catch the covid after being vaccinated I just didn't want to take it. Being brutally honest, they way they created it so quickly also set off spidey senses.

I may have had a different mindset if I had been living in close quarters with people who were "at risk" but I didn't.

However, I don't agree with "upto a point" it really is my body and I will retain autonomy.

That is because you tend to see things in a very black and white manner. Separate the reduction in severe outcomes from catching covid thanks to the vaccine and the reduction in transmission due to the vaccine. You got both though the reduction in transmission does decrease with time. I would argue that the reduction in severe outcomes from catching covid when vaccinated was actually more important and was irritated by the greater emphasis being placed on the transmission aspect. Watching supposedly intelligent politicians and journalists around something that was scientific was very interesting and I lost a lot respect for many of them.

The speed of vaccine creation wasn't a concern. The technologies were ready and waiting for funding and an opportunity. Trials/experiments are slow mostly due to waiting for funding and then waiting for a rare disease to be caught by enough people on the trial to get statistically sound results (it is obviously unethical to intentionally infect people).

It was important to understand and acknowledge the changing level of risk throughout the pandemic and not get entrenched in a position so that you can respond to in covids case the decreasing level of risk as the pandemic progressed.

[Slick]

This is from the Canadian Medical Association Journal April 2022



We found that the risk of infection was markedly higher among unvaccinated people than among vaccinated people under all mixing assumptions. The contact-adjusted contribution of unvaccinated people to infection risk was disproportionate, with unvaccinated people contributing to infections among those who were vaccinated at a rate higher than would have been expected based on contact numbers alone. We found that as like-with-like mixing increased, attack rates among vaccinated people decreased from 15% to 10% (and increased from 62% to 79% among unvaccinated people), but the contact-adjusted contribution to risk among vaccinated people derived from contact with unvaccinated people increased.

Interpretation:

Although risk associated with avoiding vaccination during a virulent pandemic accrues chiefly to people who are unvaccinated, their choices affect risk of viral infection among those who are vaccinated in a manner that is disproportionate to the portion of unvaccinated people in the population.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9054088/


I believe that people do have the right to decide if they want a vaccine or not, but they should then act in a responsible manner and not mix with the general population if they choose to not get vaccinated.


I'm going to unashamedly cut and run here.


On another note, I'm being referred to a Long Covid clinic - the shortness of breath and cough won't go away.

Hope it all goes well mate.

Did you get the referral through a GP? I often think I’ve got a bit of that that comes and goes

[Tichtheid]

This is from the Canadian Medical Association Journal April 2022



We found that the risk of infection was markedly higher among unvaccinated people than among vaccinated people under all mixing assumptions. The contact-adjusted contribution of unvaccinated people to infection risk was disproportionate, with unvaccinated people contributing to infections among those who were vaccinated at a rate higher than would have been expected based on contact numbers alone. We found that as like-with-like mixing increased, attack rates among vaccinated people decreased from 15% to 10% (and increased from 62% to 79% among unvaccinated people), but the contact-adjusted contribution to risk among vaccinated people derived from contact with unvaccinated people increased.

Interpretation:

Although risk associated with avoiding vaccination during a virulent pandemic accrues chiefly to people who are unvaccinated, their choices affect risk of viral infection among those who are vaccinated in a manner that is disproportionate to the portion of unvaccinated people in the population.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9054088/


I believe that people do have the right to decide if they want a vaccine or not, but they should then act in a responsible manner and not mix with the general population if they choose to not get vaccinated.


I'm going to unashamedly cut and run here.


On another note, I'm being referred to a Long Covid clinic - the shortness of breath and cough won't go away.

Hope it all goes well mate.

Did you get the referral through a GP? I often think I’ve got a bit of that that comes and goes

Cheers.

Yeah, I went to the practice complaining of a cough and shortness of breath after three months from a Covid infection. Because I was a smoker (quite light and I stopped around 15 years ago) I was given an appointment that afternoon and got the full MOT, chest X-Ray, ECG, blood tests, all were fine part from something in the bloods that they weren't too concerned about.

So I had to fill out a questionnaire and I'll be seen as and when.

[Line6 HXFX]

Think I am over the worst of it, think puking and shitting all night and most of the morning cleared it out of my system.
Maybe that's the way the dead virus leaves the body...

Still have a cough..but now without temperature fluctuations.
My dick is still tiny though.


All the best tichtheid..

[David in Gwent]

Upto a point. There are responsibilities to your family, friends, work colleagues and society as a whole. The vaccines were a short cut out of the pandemic which meant less people getting ill, lowering impact on an over stressed health service etc... if a significant proportion (40-50% particularly in the more at risk demographics) of the population had rejected them then the pandemic lasts longer with more people getting ill, a health service more stretched and unable to treat other conditions, more jobs lost, kids not in school for longer etc... as the risk diminished from covid the less shits I gave about people not having the vaccine so I couldn't care less if people had boosters or not.

Look, some may see this as trolling, it's really not, just my honest opinion.

Once it became clear that, despite being told the opposite in the early days, you could still transmit and still catch the covid after being vaccinated I just didn't want to take it. Being brutally honest, they way they created it so quickly also set off spidey senses.

I may have had a different mindset if I had been living in close quarters with people who were "at risk" but I didn't.

However, I don't agree with "upto a point" it really is my body and I will retain autonomy.

That is because you tend to see things in a very black and white manner. Separate the reduction in severe outcomes from catching covid thanks to the vaccine and the reduction in transmission due to the vaccine. You got both though the reduction in transmission does decrease with time. I would argue that the reduction in severe outcomes from catching covid when vaccinated was actually more important and was irritated by the greater emphasis being placed on the transmission aspect. Watching supposedly intelligent politicians and journalists around something that was scientific was very interesting and I lost a lot respect for many of them.

The speed of vaccine creation wasn't a concern. The technologies were ready and waiting for funding and an opportunity. Trials/experiments are slow mostly due to waiting for funding and then waiting for a rare disease to be caught by enough people on the trial to get statistically sound results (it is obviously unethical to intentionally infect people).

It was important to understand and acknowledge the changing level of risk throughout the pandemic and not get entrenched in a position so that you can respond to in covids case the decreasing level of risk as the pandemic progressed.

Reasons Why I never got Vaxed, call this black and white if you want:

(Not in date order)

1. Speed of vaccine creation - They all got emergency authorisation without long-term impact studies.
2. Method of measurement of deaths "from Covid"
3. The apparent will to vaccinate children.
4. Nonsensical lock down rules and procedures.
5. The MSM constant 24 hour a day fear porn.
6. The greatest transfer of wealth in human history
7. Being told you couldn't get the virus after vaccination, then that story changing.
8. Social media clampdown on any dissenting voices.
9. The studies that said the masks didn't actually prevent transmission.
10. The average age of death "from Covid"
11. Basing almost everything on bits of plastic in the guise of "PCR" Tests made in China.
12. Dr John Campbell on YT being red-pilled and completely changing his track on Covid
13. The emerging reports of Vaccine injuries towards the end of the pandemic.
14, Watching our leaders having various shindigs, obviously safe in the knowledge that Covid wasn't that dangerous.
15. The impossible pursuit of "zero covid"
16. Natural immunity after being infected almost ignored.

Will add some more when the come to me....

[Line6 HXFX]

All the standard safety procedures have been followed during clinical trials on vaccines for COVID-19 and the rigorous regulatory processes have been fully completed as for any other vaccine or medicine. Before any vaccine can be given to the population it must go through rigorous testing.

I mean I could Google each one on the list but as the first one is bollocks..why bother?

[Slick]

Look, some may see this as trolling, it's really not, just my honest opinion.

Once it became clear that, despite being told the opposite in the early days, you could still transmit and still catch the covid after being vaccinated I just didn't want to take it. Being brutally honest, they way they created it so quickly also set off spidey senses.

I may have had a different mindset if I had been living in close quarters with people who were "at risk" but I didn't.

However, I don't agree with "upto a point" it really is my body and I will retain autonomy.

That is because you tend to see things in a very black and white manner. Separate the reduction in severe outcomes from catching covid thanks to the vaccine and the reduction in transmission due to the vaccine. You got both though the reduction in transmission does decrease with time. I would argue that the reduction in severe outcomes from catching covid when vaccinated was actually more important and was irritated by the greater emphasis being placed on the transmission aspect. Watching supposedly intelligent politicians and journalists around something that was scientific was very interesting and I lost a lot respect for many of them.

The speed of vaccine creation wasn't a concern. The technologies were ready and waiting for funding and an opportunity. Trials/experiments are slow mostly due to waiting for funding and then waiting for a rare disease to be caught by enough people on the trial to get statistically sound results (it is obviously unethical to intentionally infect people).

It was important to understand and acknowledge the changing level of risk throughout the pandemic and not get entrenched in a position so that you can respond to in covids case the decreasing level of risk as the pandemic progressed.

Reasons Why I never got Vaxed, call this black and white if you want:

(Not in date order)

1. Speed of vaccine creation - They all got emergency authorisation without long-term impact studies.
2. Method of measurement of deaths "from Covid"
3. The apparent will to vaccinate children.
4. Nonsensical lock down rules and procedures.
5. The MSM constant 24 hour a day fear porn.
6. The greatest transfer of wealth in human history
7. Being told you couldn't get the virus after vaccination, then that story changing.
8. Social media clampdown on any dissenting voices.
9. The studies that said the masks didn't actually prevent transmission.
10. The average age of death "from Covid"
11. Basing almost everything on bits of plastic in the guise of "PCR" Tests made in China.
12. Dr John Campbell on YT being red-pilled and completely changing his track on Covid
13. The emerging reports of Vaccine injuries towards the end of the pandemic.
14, Watching our leaders having various shindigs, obviously safe in the knowledge that Covid wasn't that dangerous.
15. The impossible pursuit of "zero covid"
16. Natural immunity after being infected almost ignored.

Will add some more when the come to me....

Yawn

[SaintK]

Look, some may see this as trolling, it's really not, just my honest opinion.

Once it became clear that, despite being told the opposite in the early days, you could still transmit and still catch the covid after being vaccinated I just didn't want to take it. Being brutally honest, they way they created it so quickly also set off spidey senses.

I may have had a different mindset if I had been living in close quarters with people who were "at risk" but I didn't.

However, I don't agree with "upto a point" it really is my body and I will retain autonomy.

That is because you tend to see things in a very black and white manner. Separate the reduction in severe outcomes from catching covid thanks to the vaccine and the reduction in transmission due to the vaccine. You got both though the reduction in transmission does decrease with time. I would argue that the reduction in severe outcomes from catching covid when vaccinated was actually more important and was irritated by the greater emphasis being placed on the transmission aspect. Watching supposedly intelligent politicians and journalists around something that was scientific was very interesting and I lost a lot respect for many of them.

The speed of vaccine creation wasn't a concern. The technologies were ready and waiting for funding and an opportunity. Trials/experiments are slow mostly due to waiting for funding and then waiting for a rare disease to be caught by enough people on the trial to get statistically sound results (it is obviously unethical to intentionally infect people).

It was important to understand and acknowledge the changing level of risk throughout the pandemic and not get entrenched in a position so that you can respond to in covids case the decreasing level of risk as the pandemic progressed.

Reasons Why I never got Vaxed, call this black and white if you want:

(Not in date order)

1. Speed of vaccine creation - They all got emergency authorisation without long-term impact studies.
2. Method of measurement of deaths "from Covid"
3. The apparent will to vaccinate children.
4. Nonsensical lock down rules and procedures.
5. The MSM constant 24 hour a day fear porn.
6. The greatest transfer of wealth in human history
7. Being told you couldn't get the virus after vaccination, then that story changing.
8. Social media clampdown on any dissenting voices.
9. The studies that said the masks didn't actually prevent transmission.
10. The average age of death "from Covid"
11. Basing almost everything on bits of plastic in the guise of "PCR" Tests made in China.
12. Dr John Campbell on YT being red-pilled and completely changing his track on Covid
13. The emerging reports of Vaccine injuries towards the end of the pandemic.
14, Watching our leaders having various shindigs, obviously safe in the knowledge that Covid wasn't that dangerous.
15. The impossible pursuit of "zero covid"
16. Natural immunity after being infected almost ignored.

Will add some more when the come to me....

Please don't. You're talking absolute bollocks

[Biffer]

Fucking hell is he in here too?

This is starting to look like a deliberate attempt to take this place down to the level of the other place.

[Line6 HXFX]

Gawd I used to be soo fucking angry at the anti maskers, anti vaxers. My Mrs worked on covid wards right at the beginning of the outbreak (and throughout) when there was no proper PPE. I was worried sick and wanted her to quit (many nurses did). I used to tell her, her life isn't worth fifty of her patients.
In she went, she had a duty to her patients, her profession, her collegues and would without even fucking blinking, risk her life for that.

I don't care if you wear a mask or take a vaccine, be all James Dean and outside of society..with your libertarian bullshit....but you shouldn't go into hospital when it takes you, and risk nurses lives. You made the decision to fuck yourself (and others by spreading it), and you should live with it.

[David in Gwent]

Gawd I used to be soo fucking angry at the anti maskers, anti vaxers. My Mrs worked on covid wards right at the beginning of the outbreak (and throughout) when there was no proper PPE. I was worried sick and wanted her to quit (many nurses did). I used to tell her, her life isn't worth fifty of her patients.
In she went, she had a duty to her patients, her profession, her collegues and would without even fucking blinking, risk her life for that.

I don't care if you wear a mask or take a vaccine, be all James Dean and outside of society..with your libertarian bullshit....but you shouldn't go into hospital when it takes you, and risk nurses lives. You made the decision to fuck yourself (and others), and you should live with it.

I followed all of the rules, I wore masks when it was required.

If your wife was vaccinated, why should she worry about someone unvaccinated? Not that I went anywhere near a hospital during the Covid years.

[dpedin]

Gawd I used to be soo fucking angry at the anti maskers, anti vaxers. My Mrs worked on covid wards right at the beginning of the outbreak (and throughout) when there was no proper PPE. I was worried sick and wanted her to quit (many nurses did). I used to tell her, her life isn't worth fifty of her patients.
In she went, she had a duty to her patients, her profession, her collegues and would without even fucking blinking, risk her life for that.

I don't care if you wear a mask or take a vaccine, be all James Dean and outside of society..with your libertarian bullshit....but you shouldn't go into hospital when it takes you, and risk nurses lives. You made the decision to fuck yourself (and others), and you should live with it.

I followed all of the rules, I wore masks when it was required.

If your wife was vaccinated, why should she worry about someone unvaccinated?

Your question probably highlights your lack of understanding.

I always wondered who the target audience was for all the QAnon, conspiracy theory shit. Who the hell listened to GBNews and believed what they heard or the Daily Heil and believed what was written? I couldn't understand how anyone, even Americans, could believe any of Trumps shite and honestly think he is the man for me. and would lead them out of the pandemic. How anyone believed they shouldn't wear masks when in the middle of an aerosol spread virus yet would kick off if the surgeon doing their operation didnt wear a mask and gloves. David in Gwent has opened my eyes!