RWCR4 Italy vs France on 6 Oct @ 21h00

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laurent wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:04 pm Potential french team line up

15. Ramos ; 14. Penaud, 13. Fickou, 12. Danty, 11. Bielle-Biarrey ; 10. Jalibert, 9. Lucu ; 7. Ollivon, 8. Alldritt, 6. Jelonch ; 5. Flament, 4. Woki ; 3. Atonio, 2. Mauvaka, 1. Baille.

Bench : 16. Bourgarit, 17. Wardi, 18. Falatea, 19. Taofifenua, 20. Cros, 21. Couilloud, 22. Moefana, 23. Jaminet.
Clearly worried after our stunning performance against the all blacks!
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It is a worry.
If you take this as an outlier then we know that the game will be a lot tighter.

One French analyst mentioned that the Italian team was watching the game rather than play it.
It does look like this in hindsight.
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laurent wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 6:00 am It is a worry.
If you take this as an outlier then we know that the game will be a lot tighter.

One French analyst mentioned that the Italian team was watching the game rather than play it.
It does look like this in hindsight.
Well 3 of them managed to injure themselves whilst they were standing around watching their heroes :roll:
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France always conjures at least one freakish surprise per world cup, so Italy by 2.
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sturginho wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 8:19 am
laurent wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 6:00 am It is a worry.
If you take this as an outlier then we know that the game will be a lot tighter.

One French analyst mentioned that the Italian team was watching the game rather than play it.
It does look like this in hindsight.
Well 3 of them managed to injure themselves whilst they were standing around watching their heroes :roll:
If you get french you may want to check this (articulated better than I can ;)


He points out a few things (I doubt these will reoccur against France).
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Thanks, i'll give that a watch later :thumbup:
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Gumboot wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 8:24 am France always conjures at least one freakish surprise per world cup, so Italy by 2.
Not that it will happen, but if Italy did win by two and both teams ended up on 14 points, would it come down to points difference or head to head between the two teams?
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sturginho wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:02 am
Gumboot wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 8:24 am France always conjures at least one freakish surprise per world cup, so Italy by 2.
Not that it will happen, but if Italy did win by two and both teams ended up on 14 points, would it come down to points difference or head to head between the two teams?
Head to head if it's just France and Italy tied on 14. Points difference would come into it if NZ won with no BP against Uruguay and also finished on 14.

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France
15 Thomas Ramos
14 Damian Penaud
13 Gael Fickou
12 Jonathan Danty
11 Louis Bielle-Biarrey
10 Matthieu Jalibert
9 Maxime Lucu
8 Gregory Alldritt
7 Charles Ollivon (c)
6 Anthony Jelonch
5 Thibaud Flament
4 Cameron Woki
3 Uini Atonio
2 Peato Mauvaka
1 Cyril Baille

16 Pierre Bourgarit, 17 Reda Wardi, 18 Dorian Aldegheri, 19 Romain Taofifenua, 20 Francois Cros, 21 Baptiste Couilloud, 22 Yoram Moefana, 23 Melvyn Jaminet
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Italy

15 Ange CAPUOZZO (Stade Toulousain, 15 caps)
14 Pierre BRUNO (Zebre Parma, 14 caps)
13 Juan Ignacio BREX (Benetton Rugby, 29 caps)
12 Paolo GARBISI (Montpellier, 30 caps)
11 Montanna IOANE (Lione, 24 caps)
10 Tommaso ALLAN (Perpignan, 78 caps)
9 Stephen VARNEY (Gloucester Rugby, 23 caps)
8 Lorenzo CANNONE (Benetton Rugby, 15 caps)
7 Michele LAMARO (Benetton Rugby, 32 caps) – capitano
6 Sebastian NEGRI (Benetton Rugby, 51 caps)
5 Federico RUZZA (Benetton Rugby, 48 caps)
4 Niccolò CANNONE (Benetton Rugby, 35 caps)
3 Pietro CECCARELLI (Perpignan, 30 caps)
2 Epalahame FAIVA (svincolato, 9 caps)
1 Simone FERRARI (Benetton Rugby, 49 caps)

A disposizione
16 Marco MANFREDI (Zebre Parma, 2 caps)
17 Federico ZANI (Benetton Rugby, 24 caps)
18 Marco RICCIONI (Saracens, 25 caps)
19 David SISI (Zebre Parma, 29 caps)
20 Manuel ZULIANI (Benetton Rugby, 16 caps)
21 Alessandro FUSCO (Zebre Parma, 16 caps)
22 Luca MORISI (Zebre Parma, 49 caps)
23 Lorenzo PANI (Zebre Parma, 4 caps)
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Updated the opener :)
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I never look at the PR main site, but OnRugby had a link to this interview with Parisse:

https://www.planetrugby.com/news/sergio ... umiliation
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May the best team win, and failing that may Italy win
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Ahh, here it is. France look a bit up for it.
“It was a pet, not an animal. It had a name, you don't eat things with names, this is horrific!”
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Ominous start by Les Bleus.
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Race to a ton seems on again
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot, But he'll remember with advantages, What feats he did that day
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Well this is going about as well as expected
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Italy could come back from this..... ........
“It was a pet, not an animal. It had a name, you don't eat things with names, this is horrific!”
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Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:14 pm Race to a ton seems on again
Yup. France vs. the clock is the real contest.
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That French backline looks so slick. New scrumhalf looks good!
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Bloutoria wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:15 pm That French backline looks so slick. New scrumhalf looks good!
and to be honest France are just looking a bit bored and playing with ideas.
“It was a pet, not an animal. It had a name, you don't eat things with names, this is horrific!”
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Ramos is okay but he's no saffa kicker.
“It was a pet, not an animal. It had a name, you don't eat things with names, this is horrific!”
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PCPhil wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:24 pm Ramos is okay but he's no saffa kicker.
That's clear! :clap: :grin: :grin:
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Danty is one of my favourite players right now, he is one of the most effective players, not just centres, in the game. However, he looks like he's been having a lunch or two with Mathieu Bastareaud.
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Italy have a unique ability to fvck up a wondrous sequence of play.
“It was a pet, not an animal. It had a name, you don't eat things with names, this is horrific!”
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:26 pm Danty is one of my favourite players right now, he is one of the most effective players, not just centres, in the game. However, he looks like he's been having a lunch or two with Mathieu Bastareaud.
Not even close.

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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:32 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:26 pm Danty is one of my favourite players right now, he is one of the most effective players, not just centres, in the game. However, he looks like he's been having a lunch or two with Mathieu Bastareaud.
Not even close.

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Wasn't that when he shifted into the pack?

Danty looks heavier than he did a few months ago
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Does the ref have any idea what the offline rule is?
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Dickson's letting a lot of questionable clear outs go on. Ireland would love him to be reffing their games.
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It's a conspiracy to get Serin into the squad.
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Oh ffs.

Yeah yeah head stuff but thats ok just get on with the game.
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Somehow there's always a blue jersy on the Italian side of the maul.
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What exactly is supposed to be wrong with that?
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Fuck off Dickson
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sturginho wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:40 pm What exactly is supposed to be wrong with that?
Agree hit the chest and rode up against a falling player
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sturginho wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:40 pm Fuck off Dickson
He's a terrible ref but as soon as the TMO comes in it puts a lot of pressure on the ref as the TMO is sitting looking at TVs.
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tc27 wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:41 pm
sturginho wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:40 pm What exactly is supposed to be wrong with that?
Agree hit the chest and rode up against a falling player
I'm not even sure it rode up, it was the whiplash that brought the head close to the shoulder.

The legal height for contact has to be lowered.
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The day is not far in the future where players intentionally hit opposition shoulders with their heads to milk a penalty.
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Bloutoria wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:43 pm The day is not far in the future where players intentionally hit opposition shoulders with their heads to milk a penalty.
Sexton better not be reading this.
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