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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:43 pm
Sards wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:52 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:45 am
The Stormers haven't lost at home plus the sneak one away win. Far from panicking
Munster???
away. We played our best game against them with our C team. at least we picked up 3 bonus point for losing within 7. Your Sharks team got a thrashing, lost against Zebre.
Yoh. Nasty.

You are obviously now referring to this season. And not completely as I understood
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clydecloggie wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:26 am
Dogbert wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 11:40 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:36 pm Just saw the Embra result !

Ordinarily I'd be :shock: :shock: , but this season there's been a lot more fight about the Italian sides, & I think the battle for the playoffs is going to be a massive dogfight.
Nah - Just Edinburgh being Edinburgh

Glasgow beat Benetton last week collecting all 5 points ( and Glasgow really didn't play that well )

Benetton have improved, and will most likely make the playoff as will Edinburgh - but we can probably pick the Top six now - with a dogfight only for the last couple of places
4 Irish sides, Glasgow, Bulls?

Not too sure, things are still pretty congested. Glasgow, for instance, despite leading the log still have Munster away, the SA tour, 1872 games and Benetton away to negotiate which are all tough. They should get more than enough points from all the Welsh games and Zebre double header to comfortably finish in the top-4 though.

The Saffer sides will come back into it with the Boks available and could challenge top-4 still.
Yep, two years ago it had the same trend. Still a lot of rugby to be played.
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R7 – Friday, December 1

Munster v Glasgow Warriors | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | TG4, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports



Saturday, December 2

Vodacom Bulls v Cell C Sharks | 13.00 IRE & UK / 14.00 ITA / 15.00 SA | SuperSport, Viaplay, Premier Sports

Cardiff Rugby v Scarlets | 15.00 IRE & UK / 16.00 ITA / 17.00 SA | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

Emirates Lions v Dragons RFC | 15.05 IRE & UK / 16.05 ITA / 17.05 SA | SuperSport, BBC Wales, Viaplay, Premier Sports

DHL Stormers v Zebre Parma | 17.15 IRE & UK / 18.15 ITA / 19.15 SA | SuperSport, Viaplay, Premier Sports

Ulster v Edinburgh | 17.15 IRE & UK / 18.15 ITA / 19.15 SA | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

Connacht v Leinster | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | RTÉ, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

Benetton v Ospreys | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | ITA, S4C, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
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Sards, is jy reg vir n pakslae?
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 2:40 pm Sards, is jy reg vir n pakslae?

Let me guess. The Bulls are also your 2nd team
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Sards wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:17 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 2:40 pm Sards, is jy reg vir n pakslae?

Let me guess. The Bulls are also your 2nd team
Nope Sharks are.
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Stormers will have all their Bok back plus a host of injured players like Roos, Dayimani, Dixon, Hartzenberg. 10 players total. Just in time for the big clash next week against Leicester. We need to win in tandem with Leinster to qualify for play-off
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Connacht at the Sports Ground in December has always been a tough place to go for Leinster.

Jacques Nienaber has been there before so hopefully he's got a plan.
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Have to repost
See the shield work differently from this year
Whereas in the past overall log position and points accumulated in all games played have counted to the Shield, that is no longer the case. It is now about just the points accumulated in the derby games between the teams in the Shield, with the games against overseas teams no longer contributing to the Shield.
Stormers leading the SA Shield, 5 points against the Lions. Wins at home against the Bulls, Sharks and Lions can seal it
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Zig wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 3:56 pm Connacht at the Sports Ground in December has always been a tough place to go for Leinster.

Jacques Nienaber has been there before so hopefully he's got a plan.
Even if he wasn't at Munster before, he's coached a national team of one of the URC nations so has watched a lot of URC video. There'll be no surprises for him in this comp.

I think the Sharks have been disadvantaged at the start of this season by having a head coach new to the URC, a lot of people not exposed to it underestimate the teams.
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Hollywoodbets Sharks team: Aphelele Fassi, Aphiwe Dyantyi, Lukhanyo Am (captain), Francois Venter, Makazole Mapimpi, Curwin Bosch, Jaden Hendrikse, Sikhumbuzo Notshe, Phepsi Buthelezi, James Venter, Emile van Heerden, Eben Etzebeth, Coenie Oosthuizen, Fez Mbatha, Ntuthuko Mchunu. Replacements: Daniel Jooste, Ox Nche, Hanro Jacobs, Corne Rahl, Jeandre Labuschagne, Grant Williams, Boeta Chamberlain, Rohan Janse van Rensburg.
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Goosen vs Bosch is going to be vital.
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Zig wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 3:56 pm Connacht at the Sports Ground in December has always been a tough place to go for Leinster.

Jacques Nienaber has been there before so hopefully he's got a plan.

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As a Bulls fan I am a bit nervous about the game against the Sharks, we have not had great success against other SA teams in the last couple of years, even losing to the lions at home last year. Even though the Bulls have the better form going into this game, I just do not know what to expect from the Sharks. It seems it is going to be another hot & windless day tomorrow with temperature expected to be between 32-36 deg at the time they start playing. Should be a good day out though, luckily i sit in the shade :grin:
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The game of the weekend

Munster vs Glasgow
Teams:

Munster: 15 Shane Daily; 14 Calvin Nash, 13 Antoine Frisch, 12 Alex Nankivell, 11 Seán O’Brien, 10 Jack Crowley, 9 Craig Casey; 8 Gavin Coombes, 7 John Hodnett, 6 Tom Ahern, 5 Tadhg Beirne; 4 Edwin Edogbo, 3 Stephen Archer; 2 Diarmuid Barron (captain), 1 Jeremy Loughman.
Replacements: 16 Scott Buckley, 17 Dave Kilcoyne, 18 Oli Jager, 19 Fineen Wycherley, 20 Brian Gleeson, 20 Alex Kendellen, 21 Conor Murray, 22 Rory Scannell, 23 Alex Kendellen.

Glasgow Warriors: 15 Josh McKay, 14 Kyle Rowe, 13 Sione Tuipuluto, 12 Stafford McDowall (captain), 11 Ollie Smith, 10 Duncan Weir, 9 Sean Kennedy, 8 Henco Venter, 7 Rory Darge, 6 Sione Vailanu, 5 Scott Cummings, 4 Sintu Manjezi, 3 Lucio Sordoni, 2 Johnny Matthews, 1 Nathan McBeth
Replacements: 16 Angus Fraser, 17 Oli Kebble, 18 Zander Fagerson, 19 Greg Peterson, 20 Max Williamson, 21 Thomas Gordon, 22 Ben Afshar, 23 Tom Jordan

Date: Friday, December 1
Venue: Musgrave Park, Cork
Kick-off: 19.35 (19.35 GMT)
Referee: Marius van der Westhuizen (South Africa)
Assistant referees: Dan Carson (Ireland), Sam Holt (Ireland)
TMO: Aimee Barrett Theron (South Africa)
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Stormers vs Zebre: 15 Warrick Gelant, 14 Courtnall Skosan, 13 Ruhan Nel, 12 Damian Willemse, 11 Leolin Zas, 10 Manie Libbok, 9 Herschel Jantjies, 8 Evan Roos, 7 Hacjivah Dayimani, 6 Deon Fourie, 5 Ruben van Heerden, 4 Adre Smith, 3 Neethling Fouche (captain), 2 Joseph Dweba, 1 Kwenzo Blose.
Replacements: 16 Andre-Hugo Venter, 17 Ali Vermaak, 18 Brok Harris, 19 Connor Evans, 20 Marcel Theunissen, 21 Paul de Wet, 22 Clayton Blommetjies, 23 Suleiman Hartzenberg.

Date: Saturday, December 2
Venue: Danie Craven Stadium, Stellenbosch
Kick-off: 19.15 (18.15 CET; 17.15 GMT)
Referee: Eoghan Cross (Ireland)
Assistant referees: Christopher Allison (South Africa), Paul Mente (South Africa)
TMO: Frank Murphy (Ireland)
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:22 pm Hollywoodbets Sharks team: Aphelele Fassi, Aphiwe Dyantyi, Lukhanyo Am (captain), Francois Venter, Makazole Mapimpi, Curwin Bosch, Jaden Hendrikse, Sikhumbuzo Notshe, Phepsi Buthelezi, James Venter, Emile van Heerden, Eben Etzebeth, Coenie Oosthuizen, Fez Mbatha, Ntuthuko Mchunu. Replacements: Daniel Jooste, Ox Nche, Hanro Jacobs, Corne Rahl, Jeandre Labuschagne, Grant Williams, Boeta Chamberlain, Rohan Janse van Rensburg.
Bulls: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Kurt-Lee Arendse, 13 Stedman Gans, 12 David Kriel, 11 Canan Moodie, 10 Johan Goosen, 9 Embrose Papier, 8 Cameron Hanekom, 7 Elrigh Louw (captain), 6 Marco van Staden, 5 Reinhardt Ludwig, 4 Janko Swanepoel, 3 Wilco Louw, 2 Akker van der Merwe, 1 Gerhard Steenekamp.
Replacements: 16 Simphiwe Matanzima, 17 Jan-Hendrik Wessels, 18 Mornay Smith, 19 Deon Slabbert, 20 Nizaam Carr, 21 Zak Burger, 22 Jaco van der Walt, 23 Sebastian de Klerk.

Date: Saturday, December 2
Venue: Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria
Kick-off: 15.00 (13.00 GMT)
Referee: Cwengile Jadezweni (South Africa)
Assistant referees: Dylen November (South Africa), Phumzile Mbewu (South Africa)
TMO: Quinton Immelman (South Africa)


Sharks by 12
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:38 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:22 pm Hollywoodbets Sharks team: Aphelele Fassi, Aphiwe Dyantyi, Lukhanyo Am (captain), Francois Venter, Makazole Mapimpi, Curwin Bosch, Jaden Hendrikse, Sikhumbuzo Notshe, Phepsi Buthelezi, James Venter, Emile van Heerden, Eben Etzebeth, Coenie Oosthuizen, Fez Mbatha, Ntuthuko Mchunu. Replacements: Daniel Jooste, Ox Nche, Hanro Jacobs, Corne Rahl, Jeandre Labuschagne, Grant Williams, Boeta Chamberlain, Rohan Janse van Rensburg.
Bulls: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Kurt-Lee Arendse, 13 Stedman Gans, 12 David Kriel, 11 Canan Moodie, 10 Johan Goosen, 9 Embrose Papier, 8 Cameron Hanekom, 7 Elrigh Louw (captain), 6 Marco van Staden, 5 Reinhardt Ludwig, 4 Janko Swanepoel, 3 Wilco Louw, 2 Akker van der Merwe, 1 Gerhard Steenekamp.
Replacements: 16 Simphiwe Matanzima, 17 Jan-Hendrik Wessels, 18 Mornay Smith, 19 Deon Slabbert, 20 Nizaam Carr, 21 Zak Burger, 22 Jaco van der Walt, 23 Sebastian de Klerk.

Date: Saturday, December 2
Venue: Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria
Kick-off: 15.00 (13.00 GMT)
Referee: Cwengile Jadezweni (South Africa)
Assistant referees: Dylen November (South Africa), Phumzile Mbewu (South Africa)
TMO: Quinton Immelman (South Africa)


Sharks by 12
Home field advantage I reckon, Bulls by 7.
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LoveOfTheGame wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 11:05 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:38 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:22 pm Hollywoodbets Sharks team: Aphelele Fassi, Aphiwe Dyantyi, Lukhanyo Am (captain), Francois Venter, Makazole Mapimpi, Curwin Bosch, Jaden Hendrikse, Sikhumbuzo Notshe, Phepsi Buthelezi, James Venter, Emile van Heerden, Eben Etzebeth, Coenie Oosthuizen, Fez Mbatha, Ntuthuko Mchunu. Replacements: Daniel Jooste, Ox Nche, Hanro Jacobs, Corne Rahl, Jeandre Labuschagne, Grant Williams, Boeta Chamberlain, Rohan Janse van Rensburg.
Bulls: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Kurt-Lee Arendse, 13 Stedman Gans, 12 David Kriel, 11 Canan Moodie, 10 Johan Goosen, 9 Embrose Papier, 8 Cameron Hanekom, 7 Elrigh Louw (captain), 6 Marco van Staden, 5 Reinhardt Ludwig, 4 Janko Swanepoel, 3 Wilco Louw, 2 Akker van der Merwe, 1 Gerhard Steenekamp.
Replacements: 16 Simphiwe Matanzima, 17 Jan-Hendrik Wessels, 18 Mornay Smith, 19 Deon Slabbert, 20 Nizaam Carr, 21 Zak Burger, 22 Jaco van der Walt, 23 Sebastian de Klerk.

Date: Saturday, December 2
Venue: Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria
Kick-off: 15.00 (13.00 GMT)
Referee: Cwengile Jadezweni (South Africa)
Assistant referees: Dylen November (South Africa), Phumzile Mbewu (South Africa)
TMO: Quinton Immelman (South Africa)


Sharks by 12
Home field advantage I reckon, Bulls by 7.
I wanted to say that but then you will complain that I never post positive of the Sharks.

The Sharks have the forwards (Etsebeth is going to have a royal time in the lineouts) to dominate possession, Bulls pack look weak. Everything else depend on Curwin Bosch. Both teams defense is shite.Run at them I think and the job is done.
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Silly question time.
Etzebeth is from cape town. He played for stormers for 7 years before.
Why did he sign for sharks instead of stormers?
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Uncle fester wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 1:52 pm Silly question time.
Etzebeth is from cape town. He played for stormers for 7 years before.
Why did he sign for sharks instead of stormers?
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:33 am Stormers vs Zebre: 15 Warrick Gelant, 14 Courtnall Skosan, 13 Ruhan Nel, 12 Damian Willemse, 11 Leolin Zas, 10 Manie Libbok, 9 Herschel Jantjies, 8 Evan Roos, 7 Hacjivah Dayimani, 6 Deon Fourie, 5 Ruben van Heerden, 4 Adre Smith, 3 Neethling Fouche (captain), 2 Joseph Dweba, 1 Kwenzo Blose.
Replacements: 16 Andre-Hugo Venter, 17 Ali Vermaak, 18 Brok Harris, 19 Connor Evans, 20 Marcel Theunissen, 21 Paul de Wet, 22 Clayton Blommetjies, 23 Suleiman Hartzenberg.

Date: Saturday, December 2
Venue: Danie Craven Stadium, Stellenbosch
Kick-off: 19.15 (18.15 CET; 17.15 GMT)
Referee: Eoghan Cross (Ireland)
Assistant referees: Christopher Allison (South Africa), Paul Mente (South Africa)
TMO: Frank Murphy (Ireland)
15. Geronimo Prisciantelli (22)
14. Jacopo Trulla (45)
13. Luca Morisi (3)
12. Enrico Lucchin (59)
11. Simone Gesi (26)
10. Giovanni Montemauri (2)
9. Alessandro Fusco (33)
8. Taina Fox-Matamua (22)
7. Bautista Stavile (2)
6. Guido Volpi (14)
5. Andrea Zambonin (39)
4. Matteo Canali (2)
3. Matteo Nocera (38)
2. Luca Bigi (C) (47)
1. Danilo Fischetti (45)

16. Giampietro Ribaldi (22)
17. Luca Rizzoli (17)
18. Muhamed Hasa (17)
19. Leonard Krumov (93)
20. Giovanni Licata (60)
21. Thomas Dominguez (2)
22. Franco Smith Jr (17)
23. Lorenzo Pani (20)
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TheNatalShark wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 2:07 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 1:52 pm Silly question time.
Etzebeth is from cape town. He played for stormers for 7 years before.
Why did he sign for sharks instead of stormers?
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Yep. The Stormers are still in the process of recovering after been ran into the ground by stupid amateur coloureds.
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I am around the corner from you ouboet. In a farmhouse at De Mond with 5 teenage boys . We are fishing De Mond tomorrow and Sunday.
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I was a bit worried we'd have one of those nights down in Cork where the fog descends, & any TV coverage becomes a farce, but it all looks good for what should be an entertaining match
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Glasgow look a bit cowed already. 7 penalties in the first 5 minutes!

Poor start by them

On the up side, Viacom seem to have got rid of the Irish commentators
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Ref definitely on Glasgows case. Obviously doesn’t watch much Irish rugby or appreciate irony

Bit annoying he literally watched Darge being dragged out the ruck by an offside player on the floor then the next ruck yellows a Glasgow player for being on the wrong side!

Edit: not saying Glasgow didn’t deserve a yellow
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😂 lands on the floor, gets up, drives across the line for the try then sits and runs his head pretending to be hurt trying to get another yellow.

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Glasgow backs are soooo lightweight, embarrassing
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Well Munster are now 19 - 0 up with 17mins gone, so they're doing their talking on the pitch
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Glasgow wheels coming off
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fishfoodie wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 7:56 pm Well Munster are now 19 - 0 up with 17mins gone, so they're doing their talking on the pitch
Certainly are. Men and boys at the moment
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Slick wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 8:03 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 7:56 pm Well Munster are now 19 - 0 up with 17mins gone, so they're doing their talking on the pitch
Certainly are. Men and boys at the moment
and yet once they manage 3-4 mins without shooting themselves in the foot, they get in with a by-the-numbers 1st phase try.
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Munster moving the ball thru the hands very well tonight, & Glasgow keep getting caught too narrow
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26 - 5 HT
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40 - 29 FT

Glasgow lost it in the first 20 minutes, & them when they woke up, played in fits & starts, & coughed up too many penalties, & two YCs
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Munster's maul defence. :wtf:
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Am I allowed to say Curwin Bosch is shite?

Bulls running riot.
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Sharks can't scrum, can't jump in the lineouts, can't tekkel. .
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22-3 after 34 mins
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