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So a Bulls victory against the Sharks gives them the silverware for local Shield trophy. And possibly top spot in URC. That's definitely worthy
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Sards wrote: Mon May 27, 2024 8:48 pm So a Bulls victory against the Sharks gives them the silverware for local Shield trophy. And possibly top spot in URC. That's definitely worthy
You are on the wrong thread.
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Springbok training squad (in alphabetical order): for Wales

Forwards: Phepsi Buthelezi (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Joseph Dweba, Ben-Jason Dixon (both DHL Stormers), Pieter-Steph du Toit (Toyota Verblitz), Eben Etzebeth (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Neethling Fouche (DHL Stormers), Vincent Koch (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Frans Malherbe (DHL Stormers), Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears), Bongi Mbonambi (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Ntuthuko Mchunu (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Salmaan Moerat (DHL Stormers), Franco Mostert (Honda Heat), Ox Nche (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Evan Roos (DHL Stormers), Kwagga Smith (Blu Revs), Andre-Hugo Venter (DHL Stormers), Jasper Wiese (Leicester Tigers).

Backs: Damian de Allende (Panasonic Wild Knights), Faf de Klerk (Canon Eagles), Andre Esterhuizen (Harlequins), Aphelele Fassi (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Jordan Hendrikse (Emirates Lions), Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu (DHL Stormers), Ethan Hooker (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Quan Horn (Emirates Lions), Cheslin Kolbe (Suntory Sungoliath) Jesse Kriel (Canon Eagles), Manie Libbok (DHL Stormers), Makazole Mapimpi, Siya Masuku (both Hollywoodbets Sharks), Handre Pollard (Leicester Tigers), Morne van den Berg (Emirates Lions), Edwill van der Merwe (Emirates Lions), Grant Williams (Hollywoodbets Sharks).
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Too many Stomps. I watched the Glasgow match.

Cameron Wright not there.
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_Os_ wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 5:51 am Too many Stomps. I watched the Glasgow match.

Cameron Wright not there.
Neither Hershell Jantjies. :razz:
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2024 Bok schedule:
22 June, Wales (London)
6 July, Ireland (Loftus Versfeld)
13 July, Ireland (Kings Park)
20 July, Portugal (Bloemfontein)

10 August, Australia (Brisbane)
17 August, Australia (Perth)
31 August, New Zealand (Ellis Park)
7 September, New Zealand (Cape Town Stadium)
21 September, Argentina (Santiago)
28 September, Argentina (Nelspruit)

9 November, Scotland (Edinburgh)
16 November, England (London)
23 November, Wales (Cardiff)
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 5:43 am Springbok training squad (in alphabetical order): for Wales

Forwards: Phepsi Buthelezi (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Joseph Dweba, Ben-Jason Dixon (both DHL Stormers), Pieter-Steph du Toit (Toyota Verblitz), Eben Etzebeth (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Neethling Fouche (DHL Stormers), Vincent Koch (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Frans Malherbe (DHL Stormers), Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears), Bongi Mbonambi (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Ntuthuko Mchunu (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Salmaan Moerat (DHL Stormers), Franco Mostert (Honda Heat), Ox Nche (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Evan Roos (DHL Stormers), Kwagga Smith (Blu Revs), Andre-Hugo Venter (DHL Stormers), Jasper Wiese (Leicester Tigers).

Backs: Damian de Allende (Panasonic Wild Knights), Faf de Klerk (Canon Eagles), Andre Esterhuizen (Harlequins), Aphelele Fassi (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Jordan Hendrikse (Emirates Lions), Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu (DHL Stormers), Ethan Hooker (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Quan Horn (Emirates Lions), Cheslin Kolbe (Suntory Sungoliath) Jesse Kriel (Canon Eagles), Manie Libbok (DHL Stormers), Makazole Mapimpi, Siya Masuku (both Hollywoodbets Sharks), Handre Pollard (Leicester Tigers), Morne van den Berg (Emirates Lions), Edwill van der Merwe (Emirates Lions), Grant Williams (Hollywoodbets Sharks).
Malherbe couldn't dominate the Glasgow warriors. That's a concern
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Sards wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:54 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 5:43 am Springbok training squad (in alphabetical order): for Wales

Forwards: Phepsi Buthelezi (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Joseph Dweba, Ben-Jason Dixon (both DHL Stormers), Pieter-Steph du Toit (Toyota Verblitz), Eben Etzebeth (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Neethling Fouche (DHL Stormers), Vincent Koch (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Frans Malherbe (DHL Stormers), Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears), Bongi Mbonambi (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Ntuthuko Mchunu (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Salmaan Moerat (DHL Stormers), Franco Mostert (Honda Heat), Ox Nche (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Evan Roos (DHL Stormers), Kwagga Smith (Blu Revs), Andre-Hugo Venter (DHL Stormers), Jasper Wiese (Leicester Tigers).

Backs: Damian de Allende (Panasonic Wild Knights), Faf de Klerk (Canon Eagles), Andre Esterhuizen (Harlequins), Aphelele Fassi (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Jordan Hendrikse (Emirates Lions), Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu (DHL Stormers), Ethan Hooker (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Quan Horn (Emirates Lions), Cheslin Kolbe (Suntory Sungoliath) Jesse Kriel (Canon Eagles), Manie Libbok (DHL Stormers), Makazole Mapimpi, Siya Masuku (both Hollywoodbets Sharks), Handre Pollard (Leicester Tigers), Morne van den Berg (Emirates Lions), Edwill van der Merwe (Emirates Lions), Grant Williams (Hollywoodbets Sharks).
Malherbe couldn't dominate the Glasgow warriors. That's a concern
The Sharks Springbok frontrow was dominated by the Bulls in their last match. Bongi's lineout throwing was worse then Dweba.Thats a much bigger concern.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:59 am
Sards wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:54 am

Malherbe couldn't dominate the Glasgow warriors. That's a concern
The Sharks Springbok frontrow was dominated by the Bulls in their last match. Bongi's lineout throwing was worse then Dweba.Thats a much bigger concern.
Dweba... :lol:

You can have him thank you.
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Sharks really do lead as far as fielding an inclusive team
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The team to start vs Wales
Quin Roux, Edwil vd Merwe, Kriel, de Ellende, Mapimpi, Libbok, Faf de Klerk, Evan Roos, Kwagga, PSdT, Etsebeth, Franco Mostert, Frans Malherbe, Marx, Ox
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 12:26 pm The team to start vs Wales
Quin Roux, Edwil vd Merwe, Kriel, de Ellende, Mapimpi, Libbok, Faf de Klerk, Evan Roos, Kwagga, PSdT, Etsebeth, Franco Mostert, Frans Malherbe, Marx, Ox
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Sards wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 12:33 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 12:26 pm The team to start vs Wales
Quin Roux, Edwil vd Merwe, Kriel, de Ellende, Mapimpi, Libbok, Faf de Klerk, Evan Roos, Kwagga, PSdT, Etsebeth, Franco Mostert, Frans Malherbe, Marx, Ox
Oh vok
Where did you get that team from oom?
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 12:26 pm The team to start vs Wales
Quin Roux, Edwil vd Merwe, Kriel, de Ellende, Mapimpi, Libbok, Faf de Klerk, Evan Roos, Kwagga, PSdT, Etsebeth, Franco Mostert, Frans Malherbe, Marx, Ox
Would be a decent team. I think if they really want to make Libbok work, they need to get another player in the team that can take the kicking duties, ala Montgomery and James . Though at this point I just cannot trust Libbok in tight pressure games, specially when weather is not perfect. He also seem to have become addicted to the cross field kick this season, it feels like he is overdoing it this season.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 12:26 pm The team to start vs Wales
Quin Roux, Edwil vd Merwe, Kriel, de Ellende, Mapimpi, Libbok, Faf de Klerk, Evan Roos, Kwagga, PSdT, Etsebeth, Franco Mostert, Frans Malherbe, Marx, Ox
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bok_viking wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 1:37 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 12:26 pm The team to start vs Wales
Quin Roux, Edwil vd Merwe, Kriel, de Ellende, Mapimpi, Libbok, Faf de Klerk, Evan Roos, Kwagga, PSdT, Etsebeth, Franco Mostert, Frans Malherbe, Marx, Ox
Would be a decent team. I think if they really want to make Libbok work, they need to get another player in the team that can take the kicking duties, ala Montgomery and James . Though at this point I just cannot trust Libbok in tight pressure games, specially when weather is not perfect. He also seem to have become addicted to the cross field kick this season, it feels like he is overdoing it this season.
Start SMZ in 10. Something Dobson should have done a year ago.
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assfly wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 1:38 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 12:26 pm The team to start vs Wales
Quin Roux, Edwil vd Merwe, Kriel, de Ellende, Mapimpi, Libbok, Faf de Klerk, Evan Roos, Kwagga, PSdT, Etsebeth, Franco Mostert, Frans Malherbe, Marx, Ox
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 4:32 pm
bok_viking wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 1:37 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 12:26 pm The team to start vs Wales
Quin Roux, Edwil vd Merwe, Kriel, de Ellende, Mapimpi, Libbok, Faf de Klerk, Evan Roos, Kwagga, PSdT, Etsebeth, Franco Mostert, Frans Malherbe, Marx, Ox
Would be a decent team. I think if they really want to make Libbok work, they need to get another player in the team that can take the kicking duties, ala Montgomery and James . Though at this point I just cannot trust Libbok in tight pressure games, specially when weather is not perfect. He also seem to have become addicted to the cross field kick this season, it feels like he is overdoing it this season.
Start SMZ in 10. Something Dobson should have done a year ago.
Masuka before SMZ. SMZ needs experience
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Sards wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:12 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 4:32 pm
bok_viking wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 1:37 pm

Would be a decent team. I think if they really want to make Libbok work, they need to get another player in the team that can take the kicking duties, ala Montgomery and James . Though at this point I just cannot trust Libbok in tight pressure games, specially when weather is not perfect. He also seem to have become addicted to the cross field kick this season, it feels like he is overdoing it this season.
Start SMZ in 10. Something Dobson should have done a year ago.
Masuka before SMZ. SMZ needs experience
We need Libboks attacking and distribution skills. He is much more experience then Masuka. SMZ can slot in 12 if needed.
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9 Cameron Wright, 10 Siya Masuku, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 12 Andre Esterhuizen, 13 Ethan Hooker, 14 Grant Williams, 15 Aphelele Fassi.

No Stomps thanks, they had a failed season. We don't need to bring that habit into the Boks. :thumbup:
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They both need time at 10. We are (always) desperate for good fly half stocks in SA.
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_Os_ wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 7:06 am 9 Cameron Wright, 10 Siya Masuku, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 12 Andre Esterhuizen, 13 Ethan Hooker, 14 Grant Williams, 15 Aphelele Fassi.

Decent Currie Cup starting lineup. They’ll do well against Boland and EP.
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1 Ox Nche, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 3 Vincent Koch, 4 Ntuthuko Mchunu, 5 Frans Malherbe, 6 Eben Etzebeth, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 8 Franco Mostert.

That would be my pack. Maximum scrum power. 4 props with another 4 on the bench in the bomb squad, lets see what World Rugby thinks of that. Obviously the champion Sharks frontrow starts in the premium starting positions. The young and powerful Mchunu packs at 4, the stronger lock in the scrum. Stomp Malherbe failed against Glasgow so is demoted to the 5 jersey, his weakness will be more hidden there. Backrow has to be players capable of playing at lock as lineout options, because there are no locks now, just props. Main weakness in this experimental selection is there's 3 players who don't play for the champion Sharks.
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I would love to see this pack play
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AE is allow to play against Wales.
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assfly wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 10:44 am :clap:

I would love to see this pack play
Frans Malherbe can stand on the left wing and chase Fassi's kickbacks.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:59 am
Sards wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:12 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 4:32 pm
Start SMZ in 10. Something Dobson should have done a year ago.
Masuka before SMZ. SMZ needs experience
We need Libboks attacking and distribution skills. He is much more experience then Masuka. SMZ can slot in 12 if needed.
This is the problem with you oaks. Obsessed with multi skilled players. Don't believe in specialist players. SMZ is a freak talent. I believe he is the real deal. But where? He needs to nail down 1 position. Will struggle to be better than Fassi at 15. Bus is vol op 10 en 12. I would love to see SMZ moving from that toxic environment at the Stormers and move to the Sharks and be the master of 1 position.
Look. He has not been overhyped and let's his actions do the talking. Not the media. Besides Sharks need a new wimg.

But what would I do with him. 13 is short on depth for the boks. Him and Hooker are the future.
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Sandstorm wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:05 am
assfly wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 10:44 am :clap:

I would love to see this pack play
Frans Malherbe can stand on the left wing and chase Fassi's kickbacks.
Damn right. Have you seen the distance Fassi gets on his kicks. Huge boot. And he chases it down himself. That,, taking the high ball and ghosting through opposition is his strongest points
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:00 am AE is allow to play against Wales.
You have no idea how happy I am to have him back at the Sharks. I would watch his games or the highlights of his matches up north. Phenomenal player
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Sards wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 12:00 pm SMZ is a freak talent.
Sards wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 12:00 pm He has not been overhyped
You seem to have a hard-on for him at the moment. I doubt it will last unfortunately.
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Quan Horn is a shoe in 15. The Boishaaier has been outstanding all season. Strong defender.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 5:25 pm Quan Horn is a shoe in 15. The Boishaaier has been outstanding all season. Strong defender.
So you don't fancy the 15 that got the try of the season?????
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Sards wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:12 am So you don't fancy the 15 that got the try of the season?????
Looks like he went to the wrong school for Oom.
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Sandstorm wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 12:27 pm
Sards wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 12:00 pm SMZ is a freak talent.
Sards wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 12:00 pm He has not been overhyped
You seem to have a hard-on for him at the moment. I doubt it will last unfortunately.
He needs to specialize.......and become a master of 1 position , not a jack of all trades and master of none
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assfly wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:12 am
Sards wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:12 am So you don't fancy the 15 that got the try of the season?????
Looks like he went to the wrong school for Oom.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/GDiWNz ... tid=oFDknk
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Sards wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:22 am
assfly wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:12 am
Sards wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:12 am So you don't fancy the 15 that got the try of the season?????
Looks like he went to the wrong school for Oom.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/GDiWNz ... tid=oFDknk
He score 1 try but leak 5. Just like Curwin Bosch.
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assfly wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:12 am
Sards wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:12 am So you don't fancy the 15 that got the try of the season?????
Looks like he went to the wrong school for Oom.
Well he went to Dale College. A very good rugby school.
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Rassie was impressed with the Stormers players joining on wednesday. Moerat, Roos, Malherbe, Libbok straight into the Welsch test joining X Stormers Edwil vd Merwe, Ellende, PSdT , Bongi & Etsebeth.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 7:08 pm Rassie was impressed with the Stormers players joining on wednesday. Moerat, Roos, Malherbe, Libbok straight into the Welsch test joining X Stormers Edwil vd Merwe, Ellende, PSdT , Bongi & Etsebeth.
It's clear who our best 15 is..........stand in a line the rest

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