Ireland vs Argentina, Autumn Internationals 2024

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This should be interesting given it’s an actual croc roll this week
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Stupid tackle
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Argentinian kickers are the most languid and rhythmical kickers. It seems to be such little effort and they strike it with almost ridiculous ease.
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Good call from ref to avoid more than pen for the lift
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Great kick. He's looked like a completely different player since that head knock. Ireland will be hoping he doesn't come to.

Yellow stays yellow - amazing how in the space of two weeks they've completely fucked this
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Hands in the ruck there surely
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TheNatalShark wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:37 pm Good call from ref to avoid more than pen for the lift
He’s been good so far
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JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:35 pm
Blackmac wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:34 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:33 pm That's fucking ugly by Bealham, and I'm not just talking about his hair
It was the slowest croc roll ever. He must have had plenty time to think not to do it.
There's no doubt he did exactly what he was intending to do
That's my point. He must be thick as shit.
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Slick wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:42 pm
TheNatalShark wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:37 pm Good call from ref to avoid more than pen for the lift
He’s been good so far
Very fair, I enjoyed the on field try call, even if others didn't
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Blackmac wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:42 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:35 pm
Blackmac wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:34 pm

It was the slowest croc roll ever. He must have had plenty time to think not to do it.
There's no doubt he did exactly what he was intending to do
That's my point. He must be thick as shit.

I fail to see how Cummings landing on the lower leg of a player due to the actions of others is deemed more dangerous and worthy of greater sanction than a deliberate croc roll which twisted the Argentinian prop's knee
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:45 pm
Blackmac wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:42 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:35 pm

There's no doubt he did exactly what he was intending to do
That's my point. He must be thick as shit.

I fail to see how Cummings landing on the lower leg of a player due to the actions of others is deemed more dangerous and worthy of greater sanction than a deliberate croc roll which twisted the Argentinian prop's knee
It's ridiculous.
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Pretty obvious attacking set by Ireland there. Generally so far today they're just going for power carries in midfield then going wide as soon as there's the hint of a mismatch. Not much guile yet.
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Stupid question, but I'm too lazy to check myself.

If a player gets two YCs, does this turn into a Full RC, or a 20min RC ?
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That's better - excellent set piece move does the job when phase play couldn't. Henshaw has been very bright
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fishfoodie wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:49 pm Stupid question, but I'm too lazy to check myself.

If a player gets two YCs, does this turn into a Full RC, or a 20min RC ?
I think it depends what it's for - technical offences would be 20 mins, foul play would be full red

edit, actually I don't know where I got that from
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Looked suspiciously like Doris taking out a defender in front of the ball carrier there.
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:50 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:49 pm Stupid question, but I'm too lazy to check myself.

If a player gets two YCs, does this turn into a Full RC, or a 20min RC ?
I think it depends what it's for - technical offences would be 20 mins, foul play would be full red

edit, actually I don't know where I got that from
I'm not aware of any exceptions to the 20min red. Someone could stab POM and they'd still be able to replace the perp after 20
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Gibson-park has bought a few decisions by being slow. Still complaining to the ref.
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Blackmac wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:52 pm Looked suspiciously like Doris taking out a defender in front of the ball carrier there.
I thought the same.
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JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:52 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:50 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:49 pm Stupid question, but I'm too lazy to check myself.

If a player gets two YCs, does this turn into a Full RC, or a 20min RC ?
I think it depends what it's for - technical offences would be 20 mins, foul play would be full red

edit, actually I don't know where I got that from
I'm not aware of any exceptions to the 20min red. Someone could stab POM and they'd still be able to replace the perp after 20

I definitely heard the TNT team saying last week that refs still have the option of a full red for obvious foul play, punching, biting, gouging etc
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Thought BOD was good at this last week but falling into the Irish commentator nonsense this week - even the tiniest innocuous act by a green player is world class
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Huge clean out by the winger Isgro on Beirne in all that
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JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:52 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:50 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:49 pm Stupid question, but I'm too lazy to check myself.

If a player gets two YCs, does this turn into a Full RC, or a 20min RC ?
I think it depends what it's for - technical offences would be 20 mins, foul play would be full red

edit, actually I don't know where I got that from
I'm not aware of any exceptions to the 20min red. Someone could stab POM and they'd still be able to replace the perp after 20
I thought Tichtheid was right, but not 100%
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:56 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:52 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:50 pm

I think it depends what it's for - technical offences would be 20 mins, foul play would be full red

edit, actually I don't know where I got that from
I'm not aware of any exceptions to the 20min red. Someone could stab POM and they'd still be able to replace the perp after 20

I definitely heard the TNT team saying last week that refs still have the option of a full red for obvious foul play, punching, biting, gouging etc
Does that not just mean instead of giving a yellow and waiting for the upgrade
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Slick wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:57 pm Thought BOD was good at this last week but falling into the Irish commentator nonsense this week - even the tiniest innocuous act by a green player is world class
He’s going to be red raw by the end of the match.
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Card time.
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Should be a card now..blatant logging
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Huge moment. Argentina trying to be a bit cute when the full on power game was working. Think that's the moment the game was won for Ireland.
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JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:58 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:56 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:52 pm

I'm not aware of any exceptions to the 20min red. Someone could stab POM and they'd still be able to replace the perp after 20

I definitely heard the TNT team saying last week that refs still have the option of a full red for obvious foul play, punching, biting, gouging etc
Does that not just mean instead of giving a yellow and waiting for the upgrade

Well that's what I'm saying, if someone stabs POM they will get sent off with no replacement, team down to 14 for the rest of the match
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For those in the UK, is there anything worse on TV than the Toto Africa Barclay Card advert.
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:02 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:58 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:56 pm


I definitely heard the TNT team saying last week that refs still have the option of a full red for obvious foul play, punching, biting, gouging etc
Does that not just mean instead of giving a yellow and waiting for the upgrade

Well that's what I'm saying, if someone stabs POM they will get sent off with no replacement, team down to 14 for the rest of the match
Yeah there's still the no review RC, but I suppose if you get two technical YCs, for want of a better word, then its a 20min RC.

I hate to say it but they should copy the GAA & have a YC, a Black Card, aka that player is gone, & its 20 mins before you can replace them, & the RC that says hit the showers, & then go buy some nice biscuits
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ScarfaceClaw wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:58 pm
Slick wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:57 pm Thought BOD was good at this last week but falling into the Irish commentator nonsense this week - even the tiniest innocuous act by a green player is world class
He’s going to be red raw by the end of the match.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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ScarfaceClaw wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:04 pm For those in the UK, is there anything worse on TV than the Toto Africa Barclay Card advert.

The one that had Dayglow in a towel in the showers was more that a bit boak
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:12 pm
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:04 pm For those in the UK, is there anything worse on TV than the Toto Africa Barclay Card advert.

The one that had Dayglow in a towel in the showers was more that a bit boak
Christ. I’d forgotten about that one.
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SaintK wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:11 pm
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:58 pm
Slick wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:57 pm Thought BOD was good at this last week but falling into the Irish commentator nonsense this week - even the tiniest innocuous act by a green player is world class
He’s going to be red raw by the end of the match.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
BOD is alright and probably the best of the Irish pundits. Compared to the likes of D'Arcy he is superb.
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:02 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:58 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:56 pm


I definitely heard the TNT team saying last week that refs still have the option of a full red for obvious foul play, punching, biting, gouging etc
Does that not just mean instead of giving a yellow and waiting for the upgrade

Well that's what I'm saying, if someone stabs POM they will get sent off with no replacement, team down to 14 for the rest of the match
Just did a bit of googling and it seems they were going to decide whether to make it apply to all red cards but have delayed that call. I must have misunderstood originally.

So the "red cards ruin matches" crew still have to fear their team's thuggery for now
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petej wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:13 pm
SaintK wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:11 pm
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:58 pm

He’s going to be red raw by the end of the match.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
BOD is alright and probably the best of the Irish pundits. Compared to the likes of D'Arcy he is superb.
Yep
He’s excellent in the Prem and ERC
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SH refs always have a delightful take on what constitutes "backwards"
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How many stupid ways are they going to find to pronounce Montoya. I think the last was MountTodger.
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Fuck me that's a spectacular try
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