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15 year old girl was the shooter apparently. Highly unusual and not the kind of gender equalisation anyone wants to see.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 9:32 am 15 year old girl was the shooter apparently. Highly unusual and not the kind of gender equalisation anyone wants to see.
Allegedly she left a manifesto online as a Google doc and posted it before she went to the school. Unfortunately she didn't grant public rights to read it so no one can see what she wrote.

Edit -
I'll caveat that by saying I saw it posted on shitter, multiple times, so it could just be fucking shite. Or a deliberate misogynist attempt to exclude women from the shooters club or something equally fucked up but absolutely believable with US and online culture in 2024.
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A great pity he didn't shoot her parents, as they were more interested in themselves, than caring for their child !

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... ie-rupnow/
According to The Post’s review of court records, Rupnow’s parents first married in 2011, about two years after she was born.

Mellissa Rupnow had been previously married and divorced, and she had another daughter with a different man to whom she was never married. Court records indicate that this girl — Natalie Rupnow’s half sister — had other permanent legal guardians. The Post was not able to reach the half sister, who is now 20.

Mellissa and Jeff Rupnow divorced for the first time in 2014, agreeing to joint legal custody of their shared daughter, Natalie, but specifying that she would live primarily with her mother.

The couple remarried in 2017 and divorced for a second time in 2020, again agreeing to share custody but, the court records show, dividing Natalie’s time more evenly between them. During this period, Natalie would spend two days with her father, two with her mother, then three more with her father, before reversing the schedule the following week.

Shortly after Rupnow’s parents split up for the second time, the couple remarried once more. But by April 2021 they were petitioning for a third divorce. A judge granted it a month later but noted that “parties [were] admonished concerning remarriage,” according to court records.

After seeking mediation to determine custody of Natalie, they agreed in July 2022 that they would share legal custody but that the girl would now live mostly with her father. By this time, Natalie Rupnow had been enrolled in therapy, which was supposed to help guide decisions about which parent she would spend weekends with, the records show.

The 2022 custody papers said Rupnow’s parents were on cordial terms. “The parents report a generally positive co-parenting relationship,” the document reads, “and will continue to communicate with one another by text messages and phone conversations.”
Fucked UP !!!

What chance did the poor kid ever have of normal childhood spending half her life traveling between two fucking selfish adults, who were more concerned about their rights, than their responsibilities ?
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fishfoodie wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:33 pm A great pity he didn't shoot her parents, as they were more interested in themselves, than caring for their child !

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... ie-rupnow/
According to The Post’s review of court records, Rupnow’s parents first married in 2011, about two years after she was born.

Mellissa Rupnow had been previously married and divorced, and she had another daughter with a different man to whom she was never married. Court records indicate that this girl — Natalie Rupnow’s half sister — had other permanent legal guardians. The Post was not able to reach the half sister, who is now 20.

Mellissa and Jeff Rupnow divorced for the first time in 2014, agreeing to joint legal custody of their shared daughter, Natalie, but specifying that she would live primarily with her mother.

The couple remarried in 2017 and divorced for a second time in 2020, again agreeing to share custody but, the court records show, dividing Natalie’s time more evenly between them. During this period, Natalie would spend two days with her father, two with her mother, then three more with her father, before reversing the schedule the following week.

Shortly after Rupnow’s parents split up for the second time, the couple remarried once more. But by April 2021 they were petitioning for a third divorce. A judge granted it a month later but noted that “parties [were] admonished concerning remarriage,” according to court records.

After seeking mediation to determine custody of Natalie, they agreed in July 2022 that they would share legal custody but that the girl would now live mostly with her father. By this time, Natalie Rupnow had been enrolled in therapy, which was supposed to help guide decisions about which parent she would spend weekends with, the records show.

The 2022 custody papers said Rupnow’s parents were on cordial terms. “The parents report a generally positive co-parenting relationship,” the document reads, “and will continue to communicate with one another by text messages and phone conversations.”
Fucked UP !!!

What chance did the poor kid ever have of normal childhood spending half her life traveling between two fucking selfish adults, who were more concerned about their rights, than their responsibilities ?
A bit harsh I reckon mate. They sound like idiots but also sounds like they at least wanted to see her and be part of her life
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Slick wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 3:03 pm
A bit harsh I reckon mate. They sound like idiots but also sounds like they at least wanted to see her and be part of her life
True; but choosing to take your daughter to a firing range, then not securing your own gun is grounds for a smack in the face.
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Slick wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 3:03 pm A bit harsh I reckon mate. They sound like idiots but also sounds like they at least wanted to see her and be part of her life
Yeah, but they could never focus on what was right for HER !

Instead they treated her like a tradable commodity, so they fought in their endless divorces for how much time each of them spent with her, & not actually focusing on giving her some stability in her life.

I also sense the hand of their "Christianity", in the repeated re-marriage, & inevitable following divorce, which again just pushed her through cycles of hope & despair, as the two people who were supposed to be dedicated to raising her just fucked about with her life.
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Slick wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 3:03 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:33 pm A great pity he didn't shoot her parents, as they were more interested in themselves, than caring for their child !

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... ie-rupnow/
According to The Post’s review of court records, Rupnow’s parents first married in 2011, about two years after she was born.

Mellissa Rupnow had been previously married and divorced, and she had another daughter with a different man to whom she was never married. Court records indicate that this girl — Natalie Rupnow’s half sister — had other permanent legal guardians. The Post was not able to reach the half sister, who is now 20.

Mellissa and Jeff Rupnow divorced for the first time in 2014, agreeing to joint legal custody of their shared daughter, Natalie, but specifying that she would live primarily with her mother.

The couple remarried in 2017 and divorced for a second time in 2020, again agreeing to share custody but, the court records show, dividing Natalie’s time more evenly between them. During this period, Natalie would spend two days with her father, two with her mother, then three more with her father, before reversing the schedule the following week.

Shortly after Rupnow’s parents split up for the second time, the couple remarried once more. But by April 2021 they were petitioning for a third divorce. A judge granted it a month later but noted that “parties [were] admonished concerning remarriage,” according to court records.

After seeking mediation to determine custody of Natalie, they agreed in July 2022 that they would share legal custody but that the girl would now live mostly with her father. By this time, Natalie Rupnow had been enrolled in therapy, which was supposed to help guide decisions about which parent she would spend weekends with, the records show.

The 2022 custody papers said Rupnow’s parents were on cordial terms. “The parents report a generally positive co-parenting relationship,” the document reads, “and will continue to communicate with one another by text messages and phone conversations.”
Fucked UP !!!

What chance did the poor kid ever have of normal childhood spending half her life traveling between two fucking selfish adults, who were more concerned about their rights, than their responsibilities ?
A bit harsh I reckon mate. They sound like idiots but also sounds like they at least wanted to see her and be part of her life
Well intentioned doesn't really cut it in my book.

It won't be the same for every kid, but I knew enough children of divorce while I was at school and then heard from others later as teacher that they hated shifting between parents in the way that's been described. Reading between the lines it often left them feeling unmoored and without a definitive sense of home even if they did want to see both parents. And quite often both parents were keeping score on who had had their days and would prevail upon their kid to cancel plans with friends if things were starting to get uneven.

The constant getting back together and splitting is also dumb as fuck and putting their needs above the child. Lots of kids deep down really want their parents to get back together and this girl had that hope raised and dashed multiple times.
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perhaps the 'parents' should have taken note of the last line
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sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 6:17 pm Well intentioned doesn't really cut it in my book.

It won't be the same for every kid, but I knew enough children of divorce while I was at school and then heard from others later as teacher that they hated shifting between parents in the way that's been described. Reading between the lines it often left them feeling unmoored and without a definitive sense of home even if they did want to see both parents. And quite often both parents were keeping score on who had had their days and would prevail upon their kid to cancel plans with friends if things were starting to get uneven.

The constant getting back together and splitting is also dumb as fuck and putting their needs above the child. Lots of kids deep down really want their parents to get back together and this girl had that hope raised and dashed multiple times.
And this is it; the parents think they are showing their child that they both want to be part of their child's life; but in reality, their child often gets the message that neither of their parents wants them around full-time, & in this case, that was reinforced by the multiple changes in visitation, with one, then the other, & then both parents telling the poor kid that they didn't want to live with her full time.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn4x88455qpt

Vehicle ramming a crowd in New Orleans followed by gun attack.
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Uncle fester wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 11:28 am https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn4x88455qpt

Vehicle ramming a crowd in New Orleans followed by gun attack.
Mayor has declared it a terrorist attack

EDIT but the FBI says "No!"
Special agent Althea Duncan is speaking now. She has taken over the case on behalf of the FBI. "This is not a terrorist event," she says. This contradicts the mayor, who earlier described it as such.

There are "improvised explosive devices" found on scene, and they are working to find out if they are "viable" devices.
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tabascoboy wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 12:43 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 11:28 am https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn4x88455qpt

Vehicle ramming a crowd in New Orleans followed by gun attack.
Mayor has declared it a terrorist attack

EDIT but the FBI says "No!"
Special agent Althea Duncan is speaking now. She has taken over the case on behalf of the FBI. "This is not a terrorist event," she says. This contradicts the mayor, who earlier described it as such.

There are "improvised explosive devices" found on scene, and they are working to find out if they are "viable" devices.
So, white then.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Uncle fester wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 11:28 am https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn4x88455qpt

Vehicle ramming a crowd in New Orleans followed by gun attack.
Will have been very busy - not just new year , but a college football playoff game in New Orleans this evening, Notre Dame vs Georgia. City centre will have been full of those going to the game.
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Biffer wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 1:22 pm
tabascoboy wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 12:43 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 11:28 am https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn4x88455qpt

Vehicle ramming a crowd in New Orleans followed by gun attack.
Mayor has declared it a terrorist attack

EDIT but the FBI says "No!"
Special agent Althea Duncan is speaking now. She has taken over the case on behalf of the FBI. "This is not a terrorist event," she says. This contradicts the mayor, who earlier described it as such.

There are "improvised explosive devices" found on scene, and they are working to find out if they are "viable" devices.
So, white then.
Changed their minds now
FBI investigating ramming as 'act of terrorism'
published at 14:20

The FBI has released a statement which says the person who drove the car into a crowd of people is dead and the attack is being investigated as an "act of terrorism". "This morning, an individual drove a car into a crowd of people on Bourbon Street in New Orleans, killing a number of people and injuring dozens of others," it reads.

The statement adds that the person then "engaged with local law enforcement and is now deceased".

"The FBI is the lead investigative agency, and we are working with our partners to investigate this as an act of terrorism," it concludes.
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tabascoboy wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 2:31 pm
Biffer wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 1:22 pm
tabascoboy wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 12:43 pm

Mayor has declared it a terrorist attack

EDIT but the FBI says "No!"

So, white then.
Changed their minds now
FBI investigating ramming as 'act of terrorism'
published at 14:20

The FBI has released a statement which says the person who drove the car into a crowd of people is dead and the attack is being investigated as an "act of terrorism". "This morning, an individual drove a car into a crowd of people on Bourbon Street in New Orleans, killing a number of people and injuring dozens of others," it reads.

The statement adds that the person then "engaged with local law enforcement and is now deceased".

"The FBI is the lead investigative agency, and we are working with our partners to investigate this as an act of terrorism," it concludes.
Ah, must have found out he was Muslim.
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They don't even say if the attacker was killed or taken alive in any report I've seen?
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Uncle fester wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 4:28 pm They don't even say if the attacker was killed or taken alive in any report I've seen?
CBS News did say he was killed in a firefight about 20 mins ago

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-orlean ... -shooting/

There's speculation that he crossed the border a few days ago, so Trump is all over it as you'd expect
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Suspect named as Shamsud Din Jabbar
published at 17:31


The suspect accused of driving a truck through a crowd on Bourbon street in New Orleans, killing 10 people and injuring at least 36, has been identified as 42-year-old Shamsud Din Jabbar, according to two federal officials who spoke to the BBC's US partner, CBS News.

The FBI confirmed earlier today the incident is being treated as an "act of terrorism" and the perpetrator was killed after the attack.
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Might need a separate thread for this so.
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tabascoboy wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 4:36 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 4:28 pm They don't even say if the attacker was killed or taken alive in any report I've seen?

There's speculation that he crossed the border a few days ago, so Trump is all over it as you'd expect
He's been identified as a 42 year old US citizen from Texas, so Trump will have to concentrate on him being a muslim for his rants, rather than a recent immigrant.
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Lobby wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 7:03 pm
tabascoboy wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 4:36 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 4:28 pm They don't even say if the attacker was killed or taken alive in any report I've seen?

There's speculation that he crossed the border a few days ago, so Trump is all over it as you'd expect
He's been identified as a 42 year old US citizen from Texas, so Trump will have to concentrate on him being a muslim for his rants, rather than a recent immigrant.
Was he a registered Democrat ?

... then he can just justify locking all of those terrorists up !
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And to open the new year...

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Turns out it was a terrorist Muslim
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Insanity.
One out of every 15 adults in the U.S. has been present at the scene of a mass shooting, researchers have revealed.

More alarming is that over 2 percent of that group — or over five million of the 258 million adults counted in the U.S. Census Bureau in 2020 — have been injured during one.
...

The authors also found that younger generations of Americans were significantly more likely to have been exposed than previous generations were. Gen Zers, who were born after 1996 and are in their late to mid-twenties, were at greatest risk. More than half of respondents said the incident had occurred in the last decade, which Pyrooz said led “credence to the idea of a ‘mass shooting generation.’”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 10503.html
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We missed one this week, which appears to be a good old fashioned gang feud rather than a random going off his nut for once.

Three killed and 15 injured in New Mexico mass shooting
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And another

Live Updates: One person in custody and at least one dead in shooting at Florida State University; multiple victims injured

  • At least one person is dead and another is in custody after an active shooter was reported at Florida State University's campus in Tallahassee.

    At least six people are receiving treatment at Tallahassee Memorial Healthcare, a hospital spokesperson confirmed to NBC News.

    In a recent update FSU informed students that the threat to the campus has been "neutralized" but the area around the campus is still considered an active crime scene.

    One FSU student who saw the shooter described him as a “normal college dude" who was wearing an orange T-shirt and khaki shorts. "I was walking and this guy pulls up in an orange Hummer," the student said. "And he gets out with a rifle and shoots in my direction."
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/live-blog/rcna201756
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tabascoboy wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 8:30 pm And another

Live Updates: One person in custody and at least one dead in shooting at Florida State University; multiple victims injured

  • At least one person is dead and another is in custody after an active shooter was reported at Florida State University's campus in Tallahassee.

    At least six people are receiving treatment at Tallahassee Memorial Healthcare, a hospital spokesperson confirmed to NBC News.

    In a recent update FSU informed students that the threat to the campus has been "neutralized" but the area around the campus is still considered an active crime scene.

    One FSU student who saw the shooter described him as a “normal college dude" who was wearing an orange T-shirt and khaki shorts. "I was walking and this guy pulls up in an orange Hummer," the student said. "And he gets out with a rifle and shoots in my direction."
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/live-blog/rcna201756
Apparently the son of one of the Sheriff's deputies, with one of the coppers guns being either used by or found in the possession of the shooter.
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Not a mass shooting, but another remember of how fucked up the US is...

YouTube pranker gets shot ... up to about 19mins is police on the scene stuff, think it might be a multiple shooter scenario. Then we get the incident and aftermath. Turns out someone with a concealed carry permit thought the pranker was threatening so he shot him in the torso.



Did the pranker cunt learn a lesson? It appears not. :roll:
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