President Trump and US politics catchall

[stemoc]

The Hunter Biden Porno vids are going to derail Biden's chances :/

How do you see videos of someone not running for office as being able to derail the candidate's campaign?

just ask hillary

[Kiwias]

The Hunter Biden Porno vids are going to derail Biden's chances :/

How do you see videos of someone not running for office as being able to derail the candidate's campaign?

just ask hillary

Were there some videos of Chelsea being boned that I missed?

[stemoc]

No, its a good example how things that dopn't really matter derail your chances... the clinton leaked emails had nothing in it but it derailed her chances, the Biden porn has nothing to with Joe but it will surely derail his chances cause majority of americans are fucking stupid..

[Uncle fester]

How do you see videos of someone not running for office as being able to derail the candidate's campaign?

just ask hillary

Were there some videos of Chelsea being boned that I missed?

Plenty of rumours that she took after her dad in that respect.

[Hal Jordan]

What's all this flap about a Melania body double?

[Ovals]

What's all this flap about a Melania body double?

[Ali Cadoo]

Imagine being the president and still having to pay women to be seen with you.

[Fangle]

Sure. And the senate and house will never impose limits on themselves.

And don’t remember Trump saying it, but this time the rumours come from the Democratic side.
And to me, the idea of the increasing the number of justices is silly as it could just land up with the others increasing it again when they get control again.

Increasing to match the number of circuits carries some level of weight. That's how it ended up at 9 right?

I’ve no idea how they got to nine. Are you suggesting that if the Republicans win the White House and the senate, they should also increase the number of justices?

[Saint]

Sure. And the senate and house will never impose limits on themselves.

And don’t remember Trump saying it, but this time the rumours come from the Democratic side.
And to me, the idea of the increasing the number of justices is silly as it could just land up with the others increasing it again when they get control again.

Increasing to match the number of circuits carries some level of weight. That's how it ended up at 9 right?

I’ve no idea how they got to nine. Are you suggesting that if the Republicans win the White House and the senate, they should also increase the number of justices?

They ended up at 9 effectively by accident, as part of a process to stop Andrew Jackson naming additional SCOTUS judges while his impeachment was ongoing . The number has been as low as 5 and as high as 10

[Kiwias]

No, its a good example how things that dopn't really matter derail your chances... the clinton leaked emails had nothing in it but it derailed her chances, the Biden porn has nothing to with Joe but it will surely derail his chances cause majority of americans are fucking stupid..

Putin just cut the ground from under Trump

Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Sunday that he saw nothing criminal in Hunter Biden’s past business ties with Ukraine or Russia

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... onAEQ8WCoU

[stemoc]

Trump nekminnit: "Putin is lying to make Hunter Biden look good because Putin and Hunter are Friends wich mean Joe is too."

with trump he will throw his friends under the bus to make himself look like the good guy

[Sinkers]

What's all this flap about a Melania body double?

What's this all about then? I'm not the conspiracy type at all usually - but that don't look like Melania, Assuming she's still home recovering because she didn't get all the ground breaking treatment that the fat one got? And of course that wouldn't be good for the public to know/ perceive. So a fake to make it look like she's doing fine and everything's rosy and Covid is a big nothing.

[Lobby]

What's all this flap about a Melania body double?

What's this all about then? I'm not the conspiracy type at all usually - but that don't look like Melania, Assuming she's still home recovering because she didn't get all the ground breaking treatment that the fat one got? And of course that wouldn't be good for the public to know/ perceive. So a fake to make it look like she's doing fine and everything's rosy and Covid is a big nothing.

Definitely not Melania

[Niegs]

I didn't know the Trump Administration had hired the Iraqi Information Minister?

[Rhubarb & Custard]

I didn't know the Trump Administration had hired the Iraqi Information Minister?

It's just the modern way, when they talk of ending the pandemic it's merely an alternative ending

[stemoc]

What's this all about then? I'm not the conspiracy type at all usually - but that don't look like Melania, Assuming she's still home recovering because she didn't get all the ground breaking treatment that the fat one got? And of course that wouldn't be good for the public to know/ perceive. So a fake to make it look like she's doing fine and everything's rosy and Covid is a big nothing.

Definitely not Melania

and that helicopter pilot is definitely not John Barrowman

[Biffer]

If you hate the woke, vote for Biden

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... en/616845/

[Tichtheid]

If you hate the woke, vote for Biden

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... en/616845/

I got about halfway into the third paragraph, it’s all sounds a bit Jordan Peterson-esque


Edit, I went back and read it, it’s not what I first thought.

The word “woke” draws an involuntary Herbert Lom-like twitch from me

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[Uncle fester]

If you hate the woke, vote for Biden

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... en/616845/

I got about halfway into the third paragraph, it’s all sounds a bit Jordan Peterson-esque


Edit, I went back and read it, it’s not what I first thought.

The word “woke” draws an involuntary Herbert Lom-like twitch from me 9E8EF260-C917-42B7-90DA-A8ED436FF9C1.gif

It's a fair point. The right have been so outrageous that the left have been left with no recourse but to fight fire with fire. Biden's big challenge if he wins will be to pull the US back from the brink without giving the far right a "casus belli" to incite further violence.

This is all Newt Gingrich's fault. He's the one who weaponised partisan differences and economic decline is doing the rest.

[Biffer]

If you hate the woke, vote for Biden

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... en/616845/

I got about halfway into the third paragraph, it’s all sounds a bit Jordan Peterson-esque


Edit, I went back and read it, it’s not what I first thought.

The word “woke” draws an involuntary Herbert Lom-like twitch from me 9E8EF260-C917-42B7-90DA-A8ED436FF9C1.gif

It's a fair point. The right have been so outrageous that the left have been left with no recourse but to fight fire with fire. Biden's big challenge if he wins will be to pull the US back from the brink without giving the far right a "casus belli" to incite further violence.

This is all Newt Gingrich's fault. He's the one who weaponised partisan differences and economic decline is doing the rest.

I saw it described yesterday as 'a guy called Zuckerberg wanted to wank over pictures of girls he knew without them knowing, and it's all gone to shit from there'

[Blake]

I didn't know the Trump Administration had hired the Iraqi Information Minister?

Doesn't really have the same impact without an aircraft carrier and big banner in the background...

[Fangle]

Everything points to a clear democrat victory at all levels giving them complete control in both houses and the white house as Obama had for a couple of years.

My big hope is that whoever wins, it is a clear victory. I don’t want legal battles and recount after recount. And if it’s still close, I foresee trouble in the streets.

[Fangle]

And if nothing is decided by 20th January, then it will be President Nancy.

[Blake]

Everything points to a clear democrat victory at all levels giving them complete control in both houses and the white house as Obama had for a couple of years.

My big hope is that whoever wins, it is a clear victory. I don’t want legal battles and recount after recount. And if it’s still close, I foresee trouble in the streets.

I agree. It has to be decisive; but as with 2012, I doubt the GOP will follow through on the inevitable introspection and move back to the center. My guess is the next incarnation of the Tea Party fueled by their Q-anon fever dream will push them even further into the far right.

What will be interesting, if the Dems get a sweep, is how many measures they will be able to push through in 2 years to cement power like the GOP managed to do for the last 6.
Kill the filibuster? Remove the electoral college? Statehood for DC and Puerto Rico? 2 extra judges on the SC to offset the effect of the Garland seat that McConnell stole?
And once control has been somewhat cemented pursue their healthcare, immigration, environmental and other reforms. No point in spending 2 years building on anything if the GOP are just going to tear it down again next cycle.

[Biffer]

And if nothing is decided by 20th January, then it will be President Nancy.

Can you imagine if the GOP spins it out in the courts until then and Pelosi gets sworn in? Civil War II.

[Saint]

Everything points to a clear democrat victory at all levels giving them complete control in both houses and the white house as Obama had for a couple of years.

My big hope is that whoever wins, it is a clear victory. I don’t want legal battles and recount after recount. And if it’s still close, I foresee trouble in the streets.

I agree. It has to be decisive; but as with 2012, I doubt the GOP will follow through on the inevitable introspection and move back to the center. My guess is the next incarnation of the Tea Party fueled by their Q-anon fever dream will push them even further into the far right.

What will be interesting, if the Dems get a sweep, is how many measures they will be able to push through in 2 years to cement power like the GOP managed to do for the last 6.
Kill the filibuster? Remove the electoral college? Statehood for DC and Puerto Rico? 2 extra judges on the SC to offset the effect of the Garland seat that McConnell stole?
And once control has been somewhat cemented pursue their healthcare, immigration, environmental and other reforms. No point in spending 2 years building on anything if the GOP are just going to tear it down again next cycle.

My prediction is that the Dems will enact some centrist measures while the GOO accuse them of being socialists, then lose the Senate in 2 years time

[Rinkals]

Everything points to a clear democrat victory at all levels giving them complete control in both houses and the white house as Obama had for a couple of years.

My big hope is that whoever wins, it is a clear victory. I don’t want legal battles and recount after recount. And if it’s still close, I foresee trouble in the streets.

I agree. It has to be decisive; but as with 2012, I doubt the GOP will follow through on the inevitable introspection and move back to the center. My guess is the next incarnation of the Tea Party fueled by their Q-anon fever dream will push them even further into the far right.

What will be interesting, if the Dems get a sweep, is how many measures they will be able to push through in 2 years to cement power like the GOP managed to do for the last 6.
Kill the filibuster? Remove the electoral college? Statehood for DC and Puerto Rico? 2 extra judges on the SC to offset the effect of the Garland seat that McConnell stole?
And once control has been somewhat cemented pursue their healthcare, immigration, environmental and other reforms. No point in spending 2 years building on anything if the GOP are just going to tear it down again next cycle.

I saw yesterday that Kavanagh has already been looking at Bush v. Gore and, if it's a close race (and even if it's not) I think they'll try everything they can to give Trump a second term. Trump has already made it clear that he intends to fight tooth and nail to stay in power.

I see, too, that the BBC thinks that Biden has lost ground to Trump over the last few days and that there could be a surge in favour of the incumbent.

God help us.

[Blake]

My prediction is that the Dems will enact some centrist measures while the GOO accuse them of being socialists, then lose the Senate in 2 years time

That would be the safe bet sure, but maybe they'll learn from the last 2012, realise they are going to be called socialists regardless of what they do, avoid trying to compromise with the GOP since they won't be acting in good faith anyway, and just ram through some measures to ensure they at least control the senate for the foreseeable future.

[Saint]

My prediction is that the Dems will enact some centrist measures while the GOO accuse them of being socialists, then lose the Senate in 2 years time

That would be the safe bet sure, but maybe they'll learn from the last 2012, realise they are going to be called socialists regardless of what they do, avoid trying to compromise with the GOP since they won't be acting in good faith anyway, and just ram through some measures to ensure they at least control the senate for the foreseeable future.

No chance

[Rinkals]

Everything points to a clear democrat victory at all levels giving them complete control in both houses and the white house as Obama had for a couple of years.

My big hope is that whoever wins, it is a clear victory. I don’t want legal battles and recount after recount. And if it’s still close, I foresee trouble in the streets.

I agree. It has to be decisive; but as with 2012, I doubt the GOP will follow through on the inevitable introspection and move back to the center. My guess is the next incarnation of the Tea Party fueled by their Q-anon fever dream will push them even further into the far right.

What will be interesting, if the Dems get a sweep, is how many measures they will be able to push through in 2 years to cement power like the GOP managed to do for the last 6.
Kill the filibuster? Remove the electoral college? Statehood for DC and Puerto Rico? 2 extra judges on the SC to offset the effect of the Garland seat that McConnell stole?
And once control has been somewhat cemented pursue their healthcare, immigration, environmental and other reforms. No point in spending 2 years building on anything if the GOP are just going to tear it down again next cycle.

A couple of weeks ago, I was reasonably confident that Trump's goose was cooked, but watching the BBC interviewing American voters, I'm not so sure.

One hates to be too disparaging of Americans, but if they vote him in for a second term, they deserve all the shit that's coming to them.

[penguin]

I saw yesterday that Kavanagh has already been looking at Bush v. Gore and, if it's a close race (and even if it's not) I think they'll try everything they can to give Trump a second term. Trump has already made it clear that he intends to fight tooth and nail to stay in power.

I see, too, that the BBC thinks that Biden has lost ground to Trump over the last few days and that there could be a surge in favour of the incumbent.

God help us.

Not sure where they've got that from (did they explain that?). 538 have a nice election forecasting site, that's been using all the polling data, local and national to forecast the win....40,000 simulations a day. What that shows, apart from them giving Trump an 11% chance of victory, is that Trump has been polling downwards since Sept 1st. He was a 31% chance at that point and has been gradually heading down, with consistent drops week on week. It's not a given...11% is still too much of a chance for comfort, particularly when we take the supreme court and willingness to cheat into the equation, but the chance of a big Biden win is there. The fact that they suggest momentum is with Biden seems important to me too.

As they put it

We’re in the last full week before Election Day, and Joe Biden leads in both national and state polls. At this point, though, President Trump needs a big polling error in his favor if he's going to win. Although, not as big as you might think looking at national polls. Take Pennsylvania, the state our forecast thinks is most likely to decide the election. Biden doesn’t have extra cushion in polls there, so a 2016-magnitude polling error could deliver the state to Trump. Remember, Trump has a meaningful chance of winning the election, per our forecast — a little worse than the chances of rolling a 1 on a six-sided die and a little better than the chances that it’s raining in downtown Los Angeles. And remember, it does rain there.

Bloomberg getting involved in races like Texas will hopefully give Biden some kind of shock surge to a big win and it cuts Trump off at the knees. I don't think it's likely but a man can hope.

[Hal Jordan]

Everything points to a clear democrat victory at all levels giving them complete control in both houses and the white house as Obama had for a couple of years.

My big hope is that whoever wins, it is a clear victory. I don’t want legal battles and recount after recount. And if it’s still close, I foresee trouble in the streets.

I agree. It has to be decisive; but as with 2012, I doubt the GOP will follow through on the inevitable introspection and move back to the center. My guess is the next incarnation of the Tea Party fueled by their Q-anon fever dream will push them even further into the far right.

What will be interesting, if the Dems get a sweep, is how many measures they will be able to push through in 2 years to cement power like the GOP managed to do for the last 6.
Kill the filibuster? Remove the electoral college? Statehood for DC and Puerto Rico? 2 extra judges on the SC to offset the effect of the Garland seat that McConnell stole?
And once control has been somewhat cemented pursue their healthcare, immigration, environmental and other reforms. No point in spending 2 years building on anything if the GOP are just going to tear it down again next cycle.

A couple of weeks ago, I was reasonably confident that Trump's goose was cooked, but watching the BBC interviewing American voters, I'm not so sure.

One hates to be too disparaging of Americans, but if they vote him in for a second term, they deserve all the shit that's coming to them.

Problem is, their shit will spray all over the rest of the world like an out of control muck spreader.

[Rinkals]

I agree. It has to be decisive; but as with 2012, I doubt the GOP will follow through on the inevitable introspection and move back to the center. My guess is the next incarnation of the Tea Party fueled by their Q-anon fever dream will push them even further into the far right.

What will be interesting, if the Dems get a sweep, is how many measures they will be able to push through in 2 years to cement power like the GOP managed to do for the last 6.
Kill the filibuster? Remove the electoral college? Statehood for DC and Puerto Rico? 2 extra judges on the SC to offset the effect of the Garland seat that McConnell stole?
And once control has been somewhat cemented pursue their healthcare, immigration, environmental and other reforms. No point in spending 2 years building on anything if the GOP are just going to tear it down again next cycle.

A couple of weeks ago, I was reasonably confident that Trump's goose was cooked, but watching the BBC interviewing American voters, I'm not so sure.

One hates to be too disparaging of Americans, but if they vote him in for a second term, they deserve all the shit that's coming to them.

Problem is, their shit will spray all over the rest of the world like an out of control muck spreader.

Indeed.

[Uncle fester]

And if nothing is decided by 20th January, then it will be President Nancy.

Can you imagine if the GOP spins it out in the courts until then and Pelosi gets sworn in? Civil War II.

I think the Rubicon has already been crossed with the plot against the Michigan governor. Any moves towards the centre will be met with resistance from increasingly militant far rightists.

Any moves to clamp down on them will be painted as oppression.

[Fangle]

I am nervous of the health plan which might be enacted.

When the ACA was implemented for which Obama said you would be able to keep your service providers, it didn’t work out that way. My wife was unemployed and had her private insurance. If she had not stayed private, she would not have been able to keep her doctors, and over a couple of years her premium more than doubled in instead of slowly decreasing as it had been.

And yesterday I was looking for a cheaper Medicare plan. The one available limited my providers to my local area meaning that I could no longer use the hospital/clinic who were treating my condition.

[Flockwitt]

Everything points to a clear democrat victory at all levels giving them complete control in both houses and the white house as Obama had for a couple of years.

My big hope is that whoever wins, it is a clear victory. I don’t want legal battles and recount after recount. And if it’s still close, I foresee trouble in the streets.

I agree. It has to be decisive; but as with 2012, I doubt the GOP will follow through on the inevitable introspection and move back to the center. My guess is the next incarnation of the Tea Party fueled by their Q-anon fever dream will push them even further into the far right.

What will be interesting, if the Dems get a sweep, is how many measures they will be able to push through in 2 years to cement power like the GOP managed to do for the last 6.
Kill the filibuster? Remove the electoral college? Statehood for DC and Puerto Rico? 2 extra judges on the SC to offset the effect of the Garland seat that McConnell stole?
And once control has been somewhat cemented pursue their healthcare, immigration, environmental and other reforms. No point in spending 2 years building on anything if the GOP are just going to tear it down again next cycle.

Tough even if they get in charge of both houses which is still far from a done deal. But whatever the Dems do the GOP will challenge up to the supreme court and then guess what happens?

[Enzedder]

If you hate the woke, vote for Biden

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... en/616845/

I just tried - it wouldn't bloody let me.

[fishfoodie]

Nice to see that Fox News is playing a blinder.

First, by accident; with Mr Big Brain, Tucker shows what a complete fuckwit, & shill he is; by claiming that his dog ate his homework ... & then when they make the mistake of questioning the credibility, & complete hypocrisy of Giuliani in an interview; to which he has a meltdown over, & stomps off.

and for good measure one of their employees manages to trash the integrity of the whole Fox/NI org, with a less than fulsome defence of Rupert Murdock

[fishfoodie]

Finally, after four years of his Presidency; the shitgibbon has said something I can agree with !

President Donald on Wednesday evening referred to RINOs—an initialism for Republicans in Name Only—as "the lowest form of human life."

Lest anyone forget; this was the GOP Candidate who was never a Republican Party member; & gave political contributions to numerous NY Democrats; & often appeared supporting Bill Clinton, & other Dems.

[DAC]

I think Trump is the last, great hope against out and out globalism. I really hope he manages to win. If he does it will be an even more impressive victory than the first win given what he's had to face.