President Trump and US politics catchall

[sturginho]

The voter fraud hotline has been inundated with calls from "lefty teenagers" uploading their prank calls to tik tok

[sockwithaticket]

ABC news report that fireworks were seen all over London after Biden win.

As any local FB page in the UK will tell you, there have been fireworks for fucking weeks.

Fixed.

[assfly]

The story about Trump's press conference at Four Seasons Total Landscaping is honestly one of the funniest things I've read in years. Straight out of Veep or The Thick of It.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... dApp_Other

[Tichtheid]

Venn diagrams are fun

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[Hal Jordan]

On a more serious note, Trump has lit the torch for the fire, having signed an Executive Order that gives him the authority to fire civil servants who he considers disloyal or obstructive to the cause. In other words, firing as many of the non-partisan or non-bootlickers as possible to fuck the next administration and get rid of the Deep State. I would expect scientists to figure highly in the list of targets as they have an annoying habit of relying on evidence and facts to undermine his lunatic behaviour.

[Sinkers]

The story about Trump's press conference at Four Seasons Total Landscaping is honestly one of the funniest things I've read in years. Straight out of Veep or The Thick of It.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... dApp_Other

Four Seasons total landscaping to add merch to their store and start selling t-shirts. I want one! Now!

[tabascoboy]

Still no official response from Putin/Russia, can't imagine they look forward to seeing a useful idiot leave the Whitehouse.

[Insane_Homer]

[Saint]

Donald's response to the vaccine news us instructive - not "lives will be saved" or anything like that, it's "stock market up!"

[sturginho]

Donald's response to the vaccine news us instructive - not "lives will be saved" or anything like that, it's "stock market up!"

And Donnie Jr complains that it's a conspiracy

[sturginho]

[Biffer]

Relax Saint, everything Donny touches turns to shit. He’ll fuck up this sit-in too.

Much as I'd love to see him in orange pyjamas, I don't think that the imperative for the dignity of the office would allow that. Maybe Bill Barr?

As I understand it, three to four million dollars comes due shortly which may pose a problem for him.

However, 70 million is a fairly large number in terms of book sales...

What would hurt Trump more than going to jail himself would be if his kids did. That's what I'd like to see. Maybe Bannon will drop them in the shit.

[fishfoodie]

Relax Saint, everything Donny touches turns to shit. He’ll fuck up this sit-in too.

Much as I'd love to see him in orange pyjamas, I don't think that the imperative for the dignity of the office would allow that. Maybe Bill Barr?

As I understand it, three to four million dollars comes due shortly which may pose a problem for him.

However, 70 million is a fairly large number in terms of book sales...

What would hurt Trump more than going to jail himself would be if his kids did. That's what I'd like to see. Maybe Bannon will drop them in the shit.

I think he'd happily see all of his childrens in jail, rather than do a days time himself.

He played no part in their upbringing; & apart from the one he wants to fuck, you'll see practically zero picture of him with them, when they were children.

I'd also add a third penalty that you didn't mention; the Trump Business !

The legal cases against him for tax, fraud etc; all have the potential for massive fines & confiscation of property.

He might not go to jail; but there's a good chance that he could lose everything; & that means that all his kids will lose everything too; & to my mind; I think losing everything will be what would hurt him most.

[Saint]

Trump reportedly discussing running in 2024 with aides.


Also, fired Mark Esper today as well (well Esper resubmitted his resignation last week, butTrump "Terminated" him today

[Ovals]

Much as I'd love to see him in orange pyjamas, I don't think that the imperative for the dignity of the office would allow that. Maybe Bill Barr?

As I understand it, three to four million dollars comes due shortly which may pose a problem for him.

However, 70 million is a fairly large number in terms of book sales...

What would hurt Trump more than going to jail himself would be if his kids did. That's what I'd like to see. Maybe Bannon will drop them in the shit.

I think he'd happily see all of his childrens in jail, rather than do a days time himself.

He played no part in their upbringing; & apart from the one he wants to fuck, you'll see practically zero picture of him with them, when they were children.

I'd also add a third penalty that you didn't mention; the Trump Business !

The legal cases against him for tax, fraud etc; all have the potential for massive fines & confiscation of property.

He might not go to jail; but there's a good chance that he could lose everything; & that means that all his kids will lose everything too; & to my mind; I think losing everything will be what would hurt him most.

Families like the Trumps never end up short of huge fortunes, no matter how many times they go bankrupt.

[Rinkals]

Families like the Trumps never end up short of huge fortunes, no matter how many times they go bankrupt.

Largely because they tend to operate under the radar.

I'm not sure they will find it easy to avoid scrutiny this time around.

[Rinkals]

Esper's firing is a little worrying.

One hopes it's not because he expressed a reluctance to fire on demonstrators and Trump wants to appoint someone a little less squeamish.

[Bimbowomxn]

Families like the Trumps never end up short of huge fortunes, no matter how many times they go bankrupt.

Largely because they tend to operate under the radar.

I'm not sure they will find it easy to avoid scrutiny this time around.

Yeah all those massive gold towers and television shows is the very definition of “under the radar”

[fishfoodie]

What would hurt Trump more than going to jail himself would be if his kids did. That's what I'd like to see. Maybe Bannon will drop them in the shit.

I think he'd happily see all of his childrens in jail, rather than do a days time himself.

He played no part in their upbringing; & apart from the one he wants to fuck, you'll see practically zero picture of him with them, when they were children.

I'd also add a third penalty that you didn't mention; the Trump Business !

The legal cases against him for tax, fraud etc; all have the potential for massive fines & confiscation of property.

He might not go to jail; but there's a good chance that he could lose everything; & that means that all his kids will lose everything too; & to my mind; I think losing everything will be what would hurt him most.

Families like the Trumps never end up short of huge fortunes, no matter how many times they go bankrupt.

People who keep their fortunes tend also to be smart enough to not put their entire fortune i one asset class;

& they also surround themselves with smart people, who offer contrarian advice.

Does any of this sound like the Losers ?

[Fangle]

Seeing that this thread is about Biden, who do you experts on US politics think will fill his cabinet positions? He has already ruled out all those in the senate. And that is especially wise in regards to Warren, who was angling for finance.

[Sandstorm]

Seeing that this thread is about Biden, who do you experts on US politics think will fill his cabinet positions? He has already ruled out all those in the senate. And that is especially wise in regards to Warren, who was angling for finance.

His own family?

[Gumboot]

Ben Carson becomes the latest Trump lickspittle to contract Covid-19.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Ben Carson becomes the latest Trump lickspittle to contract Covid-19.

Given his background you'd think he'd respond sensibly, but then having heard him there's a decent chance he'll use guns to 'cure' himself

[Woddy]

Relax Saint, everything Donny touches turns to shit. He’ll fuck up this sit-in too.

Much as I'd love to see him in orange pyjamas, I don't think that the imperative for the dignity of the office would allow that. Maybe Bill Barr?

As I understand it, three to four million dollars comes due shortly which may pose a problem for him.

However, 70 million is a fairly large number in terms of book sales...

What would hurt Trump more than going to jail himself would be if his kids did. That's what I'd like to see. Maybe Bannon will drop them in the shit.

Not convinced it would...

[Woddy]

Seeing that this thread is about Biden, who do you experts on US politics think will fill his cabinet positions? He has already ruled out all those in the senate. And that is especially wise in regards to Warren, who was angling for finance.

Very few of us would hold ourselves out as anything more than interested, bemused bystanders with zero real knowledge of US politics. We're badly enough informed on our own...

How does it normally work with picking a cabinet in the US?

[Ovals]

I think he'd happily see all of his childrens in jail, rather than do a days time himself.

He played no part in their upbringing; & apart from the one he wants to fuck, you'll see practically zero picture of him with them, when they were children.

I'd also add a third penalty that you didn't mention; the Trump Business !

The legal cases against him for tax, fraud etc; all have the potential for massive fines & confiscation of property.

He might not go to jail; but there's a good chance that he could lose everything; & that means that all his kids will lose everything too; & to my mind; I think losing everything will be what would hurt him most.

Families like the Trumps never end up short of huge fortunes, no matter how many times they go bankrupt.

People who keep their fortunes tend also to be smart enough to not put their entire fortune i one asset class;

& they also surround themselves with smart people, who offer contrarian advice.

Does any of this sound like the Losers ?

The Trump organisation will have plenty of smart people in it. They've won some highly unlikely multi million dollar suits. You can bet that the Trumps' personal fortunes will be well out of reach and the legal structures of the businesses, alone, will take years to unwind.

[Fangle]

Seeing that this thread is about Biden, who do you experts on US politics think will fill his cabinet positions? He has already ruled out all those in the senate. And that is especially wise in regards to Warren, who was angling for finance.

His own family?

Hunter for Secretary of State.

[Saint]

Seeing that this thread is about Biden, who do you experts on US politics think will fill his cabinet positions? He has already ruled out all those in the senate. And that is especially wise in regards to Warren, who was angling for finance.

Very few of us would hold ourselves out as anything more than interested, bemused bystanders with zero real knowledge of US politics. We're badly enough informed on our own...

How does it normally work with picking a cabinet in the US?

The president submits a name to head a Federal Executive Department to the Senate, which then proceeds to run through a confirmation process - similar to that for a SCOTUS Justice, but usually less charged - they're not lifetime appointments after all, although they are in the line of succession.

So Biden can name pretty much whoever he wants, but they have to be approvable

[MungoMan]

Yeah, that’s where I do disagree.

There are plenty of problems where these demographics do have a justifiable point. An example would be immigration.

For me, problems with immigration are substantially outweighed by the positives, especially over the long term.

But for people who live day by day, they don’t give a fuck about long term, nuanced benefits. They just see a simple and immediate supply and demand issue, that Brexit (Uk) and trump (US) promise to resolve.

They have a point.

Calling them morons is just an ad hominem approach that won’t work in my view.

I agree with you mate. I don’t think it is really all that helpful to label them as “stupid”. Your observation relating to “short term thinking” I think is spot-on to some extent.

But I think the biggest problem is te desire to ascribe to “simple solutions to complex problems”. There is no willingness to engage is nuance and the inter-relatedness of problems...every issue/problem has a simple solution.
Immigration? Just build a wall.
Islamist threats? Ban Muslims
Teen pregnancies leading to abortions? Close clinics
Hurricanes? Pray harder and blame the gays
Forest fires? Sweep up the kindling
Being smashed by China in trade? Put a tax on imports
Kids getting shot at school? More security and give teachers guns too!
Etc etc

While I loathe to call them stupid, there seems to be a large overlap between people looking for “simple answers” to life’s problems and religious folks as well. The simplest answer of “God did it” or “It was God’s will” has given a lot of them a lifetime of not questioning much in terms of cause and effect. This lack of skepticism also makes them ideal targets for grifters and conmen.

It’s a broad generalization though, and obviously can’t be applied to the whole group, but I think to a significant slice in both the USA and SA.

Yeah, I think your last point is one that’s Especially worth highlighting - generalisation has been a problem for why getting to grips with this could be hard.

For example, I agree with you that there are plenty of trumpers that like simple answers.

But then you have plenty that believe in the most complex and convoluted conspiracy theories, that means that significant cohort can handle, and even embrace, complexity.

The wider point I suppose is that we’re all right; there are morons, there are short termers, there are simplistic folk, there are the religious and overall there is a lack of critical thinkers.

The real people to blame are social scientists who think that society can be separated into monolithic cohorts and those cohorts have consistent, predictable traits.

It has become ubiquitous in the media and work places and has made us all lazy in our assertions.

The real battle is individualism vs collectivism, and these social scientist are causing so much strife with their divisive nonsense like CRT and White privilege.

Few things enrage me more than cathode ray tube and white balance matters

[fishfoodie]

Families like the Trumps never end up short of huge fortunes, no matter how many times they go bankrupt.

People who keep their fortunes tend also to be smart enough to not put their entire fortune i one asset class;

& they also surround themselves with smart people, who offer contrarian advice.

Does any of this sound like the Losers ?

The Trump organisation will have plenty of smart people in it. They've won some highly unlikely multi million dollar suits. You can bet that the Trumps' personal fortunes will be well out of reach and the legal structures of the businesses, alone, will take years to unwind.

My evaluation of the caliber of investment experts in the Trump org comes down to one, indisputable fact.

If the scum had taken the money his Daddy gave him; & immediately handed it to most kak handed investment specialist; or just stuck it in a Post Office account that was linked to the S&P; he could have spent the last 50 years in an endless Gomorrah of coke & hookers .... and still be richer than he has today !

That is a mathematical FACT !

[Saint]

Seeing that this thread is about Biden, who do you experts on US politics think will fill his cabinet positions? He has already ruled out all those in the senate. And that is especially wise in regards to Warren, who was angling for finance.

His own family?

Hunter for Secretary of State.

Surgeon General would probably be a better fit given his knowledge of medical substances

[Fangle]

Seeing that this thread is about Biden, who do you experts on US politics think will fill his cabinet positions? He has already ruled out all those in the senate. And that is especially wise in regards to Warren, who was angling for finance.

Very few of us would hold ourselves out as anything more than interested, bemused bystanders with zero real knowledge of US politics. We're badly enough informed on our own...

How does it normally work with picking a cabinet in the US?

He can select anybody he wants, from private sector or politicians. I don’t know if there are any limitations including if they have to be American citizens. I am not sure, but maybe the senate has to approve. Normally that is just a formality.

I am curious because I want to see what his aims are. Possibly even appointing someone from the other party like other presidents have done, including W.

[Ovals]

Seeing that this thread is about Biden, who do you experts on US politics think will fill his cabinet positions? He has already ruled out all those in the senate. And that is especially wise in regards to Warren, who was angling for finance.

Very few of us would hold ourselves out as anything more than interested, bemused bystanders with zero real knowledge of US politics. We're badly enough informed on our own...

How does it normally work with picking a cabinet in the US?

He can select anybody he wants, from private sector or politicians. I don’t know if there are any limitations including if they have to be American citizens. I am not sure, but maybe the senate has to approve. Normally that is just a formality.

I am curious because I want to see what his aims are. Possibly even appointing someone from the other party like other presidents have done, including W.

Theoretically the Senate has to approve the selections for them to be confirmed. In practice, the POTUS can just have them as 'acting' officials, without any Sentae involvement. Trump used that 'get around' on numerous ocassions.

[fishfoodie]

Seeing that this thread is about Biden, who do you experts on US politics think will fill his cabinet positions? He has already ruled out all those in the senate. And that is especially wise in regards to Warren, who was angling for finance.

Very few of us would hold ourselves out as anything more than interested, bemused bystanders with zero real knowledge of US politics. We're badly enough informed on our own...

How does it normally work with picking a cabinet in the US?

He can select anybody he wants, from private sector or politicians. I don’t know if there are any limitations including if they have to be American citizens. I am not sure, but maybe the senate has to approve. Normally that is just a formality.

I am curious because I want to see what his aims are. Possibly even appointing someone from the other party like other presidents have done, including W.

He could make Obama the Ambassador to the UK

[Saint]

Very few of us would hold ourselves out as anything more than interested, bemused bystanders with zero real knowledge of US politics. We're badly enough informed on our own...

How does it normally work with picking a cabinet in the US?

He can select anybody he wants, from private sector or politicians. I don’t know if there are any limitations including if they have to be American citizens. I am not sure, but maybe the senate has to approve. Normally that is just a formality.

I am curious because I want to see what his aims are. Possibly even appointing someone from the other party like other presidents have done, including W.

He could make Obama the Ambassador to the UK

All US Ambassadors require Senate confirmation

[fishfoodie]

Murdock has no use for Losers



It's just a shame they weren't so discriminating about unsubstantiated horseshit, over stuff like Hunter Biden, where Obama was born; etc, etc, etc, etc

[Fangle]

The Trump supporters have yet to riot, so they are unboarding the shop fronts.

[obelixtim]

The story about Trump's press conference at Four Seasons Total Landscaping is honestly one of the funniest things I've read in years. Straight out of Veep or The Thick of It.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... dApp_Other

Four Seasons total landscaping to add merch to their store and start selling t-shirts. I want one! Now!

Here you go. They should make millions.

https://uploads.dailydot.com/2020/11/Fo ... size=large

[Rinkals]

Families like the Trumps never end up short of huge fortunes, no matter how many times they go bankrupt.

Largely because they tend to operate under the radar.

I'm not sure they will find it easy to avoid scrutiny this time around.

Yeah all those massive gold towers and television shows is the very definition of “under the radar”

What on earth are you on about?

That's exactly the point I'm making.

Christ, bimbot, get a grip.

[Hal Jordan]

Barr rises from the grave to order the an investigation into voter fraud. DOJ officials quit. McConnell applauds from the sidelines. There is a special place in hell reserved for McConnell, he is an appalling specimen who is an active opponent of bipartisan democracy, well, largely democracy full stop. He seems to revel in his role of blocking any legislation placed in front of him.