Cricket: SA vs England
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Isn't it mostly about economy rate with t20?Rinkals wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:55 pm It's hard to believe that the selectors feel that Bueren Hendricks is a better bowler than Nortje.
How do they compare?
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Rinkals wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:21 pm Stokes and Malan obviously deciding to get after the bowling.
Unusual, normally a conservative approach is seen in 20/20.
Because it's a high scoring game?Bimbowomxn wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:25 pmRinkals wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:21 pm Stokes and Malan obviously deciding to get after the bowling.
Unusual, normally a conservative approach is seen in 20/20.
You can knock it around for five or six an over and get the occasional boundary without taking risks when you are chasing a low total.
I think most people who understand the game understood the context.
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Stokes batting is just so special to watch
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Stokes out - chasing a run-rate that's approaching ten an over.Rinkals wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:30 pmBecause it's a high scoring game?Bimbowomxn wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:25 pmRinkals wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:21 pm Stokes and Malan obviously deciding to get after the bowling.
Unusual, normally a conservative approach is seen in 20/20.
You can knock it around for five or six an over and get the occasional boundary without taking risks when you are chasing a low total.
I think most people who understand the game understood the context.
Going at 5 or 6 an over and praying for a boundary means losing this game at a canter.
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At this rate we won’t get close
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Yes, but a more conservative approach early on with the asking rate at seven an over would probably be a safer option.JM2K6 wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:32 pmStokes out - chasing a run-rate that's approaching ten an over.Rinkals wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:30 pmBecause it's a high scoring game?Bimbowomxn wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:25 pm
Unusual, normally a conservative approach is seen in 20/20.
You can knock it around for five or six an over and get the occasional boundary without taking risks when you are chasing a low total.
I think most people who understand the game understood the context.
Going at 5 or 6 an over and praying for a boundary means losing this game at a canter.
They'll probably still get them, but they are giving the staffers an opening with their hubris.
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‘Hubris’ as opposed to how England have approached all white ball cricket since 2015?
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If you are telling me that knocking the ball around for singles interspersed with the odd boundary is difficult when you are chasing seven-odd an over, then I bow to your superior knowledge.JM2K6 wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:42 pm The more conservative rate of... miles less than South Africa at any point beyond the first 2 overs?
I'm saying we were miles behind the rate from almost the very start of the game, and we had to hit lots of boundaries to catch up. T20 isn't about excising risk, it's about gambling at the right time. England started to accelerate, Stokes got out, and they carried on hitting boundaries and as a result the worm looks like this:Rinkals wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:51 pmIf you are telling me that knocking the ball around for singles interspersed with the odd boundary is difficult when you are chasing seven-odd an over, then I bow to your superior knowledge.JM2K6 wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:42 pm The more conservative rate of... miles less than South Africa at any point beyond the first 2 overs?
Malan is out, having done his job and ensured England don't need to rely on big runs in the final over:

T20 is not ODI cricket.
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Rinkals is special, he genuinely believes England are the devil and are just insanely arrogant. So whatever our approach, he considers it a sign of our moral failings.Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:58 pm I’ll never not be fascinated by the way that the presence of England in any sports match can cause people to start foaming at the mouth.
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Sounds a bit like CammyJM2K6 wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:59 pmRinkals is special, he genuinely believes England are the devil and are just insanely arrogant. So whatever our approach, he considers it a sign of our moral failings.Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:58 pm I’ll never not be fascinated by the way that the presence of England in any sports match can cause people to start foaming at the mouth.
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Good game that. Smart and well timed chase, as it turns out
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Paarl is a beautiful town. Dawid Malan home.Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:46 pm This backdrop has convinced me - my first post lockdown holiday will be to SA. Lovely content on a foggy Sunday
I suspect another hiding coming up.handyman wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:41 pm Back at Newlands for the last T20, starting at 18:00.
Tough choice for me between Klaassen and Smuts, Smuts just shading it by being able to bowl. Possibly give Sipamla a chance by dropping Ngidi?
I know we have the bowling to compete, but our batsmen are stuck in the belief that England are a much stronger team.
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Perhaps they are.Rinkals wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:58 pmI suspect another hiding coming up.handyman wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:41 pm Back at Newlands for the last T20, starting at 18:00.
Tough choice for me between Klaassen and Smuts, Smuts just shading it by being able to bowl. Possibly give Sipamla a chance by dropping Ngidi?
I know we have the bowling to compete, but our batsmen are stuck in the belief that England are a much stronger team.
Whether they are or not, if you approach the game believing that you are not good enough, you won't be.Longshanks wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:41 pmPerhaps they are.Rinkals wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:58 pmI suspect another hiding coming up.handyman wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:41 pm Back at Newlands for the last T20, starting at 18:00.
Tough choice for me between Klaassen and Smuts, Smuts just shading it by being able to bowl. Possibly give Sipamla a chance by dropping Ngidi?
I know we have the bowling to compete, but our batsmen are stuck in the belief that England are a much stronger team.
England probably weren't expecting South Africa to be quite so supine.
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I'm surprised you said that, considering how arrogant we are.Rinkals wrote: England probably weren't expecting South Africa to be quite so supine.
At the moment, we don't have the cattle.Rinkals wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:58 pmI suspect another hiding coming up.handyman wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:41 pm Back at Newlands for the last T20, starting at 18:00.
Tough choice for me between Klaassen and Smuts, Smuts just shading it by being able to bowl. Possibly give Sipamla a chance by dropping Ngidi?
I know we have the bowling to compete, but our batsmen are stuck in the belief that England are a much stronger team.
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