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Ramaphosa to address the nation tonight at 8pm
Johannesburg - With the first million Covid-19 vaccine doses touching down at OR Tambo International AIrport at 3pm on Monday, President Cyril Ramaphosa is set to address the nation later this evening at 8pm.
Ramaphosa, along with Health Minister Zweli Mkhize and other dignitaries, will welcome the cargo flight from India to great fanfare this afternoon before pronouncing later on the amended lockdown regulations for the month of February.
Tyrone Seale, the acting spokesperson in the Presidency, said tonight’s address was aimed at communicating developments in relation to the country’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.
“The address follows meetings in recent days of the National Coronavirus Command Council, the President’s Co-ordinating Council and Cabinet.
“The president’s address will be broadcast and streamed on a range of platforms that are accessible to South Africans and international audiences,” said Seale.
Ramaphosa is expected to address several issues relating to the spread of the coronavirus.
Infections have begun to decline rapidly, with infections now averaging around 4 000 cases a day, compared to the highs of over 20 000 daily cases a day in early January.
The rapid rise of infections from December, which saw daily infections at around 8 000 cases a day after December 16, led to Ramaphosa banning the sale of alcohol for a third time this financial year.
Ramaphosa is also expected to announce whether alcohol sales will be allowed again after liquor traders gave the government seven days to unban the sale of alcohol last Monday.
Heineken South Africa, which distributes alcohol brands such as Windhoek, Amstel, Miller and Soweto beers, has already announced that it will institute retrenchments for 7% of their workforce, while their competitors at the South African Breweries have laid off over 500 temporary staff in light of the persistent alcohol bans and has not ruled out the possibility of retrenchments.
SAB also announced it could no longer invest in CapEx projects mooted at over R2.5 billion in light of the alcohol bans.
Meanwhile, this weekend residents at several Western Cape beaches embarked on protests against the beach ban by flocking to beaches in a mark of civil disobedience.
Ramaphosa is also expected to outline if beaches are to stay closed or not, after they were closed in mid-December as the second wave peaked.
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Ek is gesort met brannas, bier en wyn, maar is donners lus vir 'n rampampie, so hoop ons president maak oop vanaand.OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 1:12 pm Hopefull we can have a cold one and swim on the beach from tomorrow.
IOLRamaphosa to address the nation tonight at 8pm
Johannesburg - With the first million Covid-19 vaccine doses touching down at OR Tambo International AIrport at 3pm on Monday, President Cyril Ramaphosa is set to address the nation later this evening at 8pm.
Ramaphosa, along with Health Minister Zweli Mkhize and other dignitaries, will welcome the cargo flight from India to great fanfare this afternoon before pronouncing later on the amended lockdown regulations for the month of February.
Tyrone Seale, the acting spokesperson in the Presidency, said tonight’s address was aimed at communicating developments in relation to the country’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.
“The address follows meetings in recent days of the National Coronavirus Command Council, the President’s Co-ordinating Council and Cabinet.
“The president’s address will be broadcast and streamed on a range of platforms that are accessible to South Africans and international audiences,” said Seale.
Ramaphosa is expected to address several issues relating to the spread of the coronavirus.
Infections have begun to decline rapidly, with infections now averaging around 4 000 cases a day, compared to the highs of over 20 000 daily cases a day in early January.
The rapid rise of infections from December, which saw daily infections at around 8 000 cases a day after December 16, led to Ramaphosa banning the sale of alcohol for a third time this financial year.
Ramaphosa is also expected to announce whether alcohol sales will be allowed again after liquor traders gave the government seven days to unban the sale of alcohol last Monday.
Heineken South Africa, which distributes alcohol brands such as Windhoek, Amstel, Miller and Soweto beers, has already announced that it will institute retrenchments for 7% of their workforce, while their competitors at the South African Breweries have laid off over 500 temporary staff in light of the persistent alcohol bans and has not ruled out the possibility of retrenchments.
SAB also announced it could no longer invest in CapEx projects mooted at over R2.5 billion in light of the alcohol bans.
Meanwhile, this weekend residents at several Western Cape beaches embarked on protests against the beach ban by flocking to beaches in a mark of civil disobedience.
Ramaphosa is also expected to outline if beaches are to stay closed or not, after they were closed in mid-December as the second wave peaked.
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Selfde hier. As mens draf en mountain bike is dit nie so lekker om ekstra gewig rond te dra nie. En die jonger manne wag nie graag vir my nie.OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 1:20 pm Sedert die lock down begin het , het ek en ma besluit ons drink net op naweke. Spaar baie en is ook gesond.
I also fear for the hospitals, but a lot of people in the alcohol industry have been laid off because of the ban.assfly wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 1:40 pm I hope the liquor ban is relaxed, but I also fear for the hospitals which will have to deal with a surge in domestic abuse whilst trying to contain a pandemic.
Ons ook.OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 1:20 pm Sedert die lock down begin het , het ek en ma besluit ons drink net op naweke. Spaar baie en is ook gesond.
Done! Too late for my local pub though. Owner has bailed. It was a real dive but was a good place to watch rugby. The prohibition period has done my health the world of good though. Blood pressure down, 5kg off the gut and mentally in better shape. As you get older those heavy nights take longer and longer to recover from.Chilli wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 5:29 pm Dear Oom Cyril,
Please open the beaches and the bottle stores before my Birthday.
Keep the curfew just as it is.
Thanks
Chilli
Unfortunately yes; mostly among older generations and conspiracy theorists.Fangle wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 1:37 pm The farmers in my brother’s area are fiddling with Ivermectin. Is this a big thing?
Your news on this is old, it's been found to be effective as a treatment and Sahpra approved its use last week after Afriforum and some medical doctors took them to court for blocking something that's been around from the 1980 and was used extensively in Europe and other parts of the world against covid. The problem is people take it preventatively and because previously it was only cleared for animal use we only had the ones for that purpose and the recommended dosage on the bottle was for cattle that weigh a 1000kg.Blake wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:44 amUnfortunately yes; mostly among older generations and conspiracy theorists.Fangle wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 1:37 pm The farmers in my brother’s area are fiddling with Ivermectin. Is this a big thing?
It's like hydroxychloroquine all over again; again a anti-parasitic drug.
There have been no clinical studies proving its efficacy as a treatment; only some anecdotal stories and a couple of claims of it being a "gamechanger" on WhatsApp...the kind of chain messages that boomers and conspiracy theorists like to spread. Same playbook as hydroxychloroquine...anecdotal stories, WhatsApp messages, and cherry picking of data that completely fell apart when tested in rigorous medical trials. The average person just doesn't understand statistics and probability. They are quick to point out that Covid only has a 1-2% fatality rate, but then exalt a treatment where it seemingly has a 99% success rate and often fudge the remaining 1% to claim 100% efficacy.
Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't...I'll wait for the medical professionals to conclude their studies and publish their findings. The public pressure from these groups have at least forced a study; so we should have some findings in a couple of months.
Hopefully nobody gets hurt in the meantime.
I think that's only partially correct.average joe wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:02 amYour news on this is old, it's been found to be effective as a treatment and Sahpra approved its use last week after Afriforum and some medical doctors took them to court for blocking something that's been around from the 1980 and was used extensively in Europe and other parts of the world against covid. The problem is people take it preventatively and because previously it was only cleared for animal use we only had the ones for that purpose and the recommended dosage on the bottle was for cattle that weigh a 1000kg.Blake wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:44 amUnfortunately yes; mostly among older generations and conspiracy theorists.Fangle wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 1:37 pm The farmers in my brother’s area are fiddling with Ivermectin. Is this a big thing?
It's like hydroxychloroquine all over again; again a anti-parasitic drug.
There have been no clinical studies proving its efficacy as a treatment; only some anecdotal stories and a couple of claims of it being a "gamechanger" on WhatsApp...the kind of chain messages that boomers and conspiracy theorists like to spread. Same playbook as hydroxychloroquine...anecdotal stories, WhatsApp messages, and cherry picking of data that completely fell apart when tested in rigorous medical trials. The average person just doesn't understand statistics and probability. They are quick to point out that Covid only has a 1-2% fatality rate, but then exalt a treatment where it seemingly has a 99% success rate and often fudge the remaining 1% to claim 100% efficacy.
Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't...I'll wait for the medical professionals to conclude their studies and publish their findings. The public pressure from these groups have at least forced a study; so we should have some findings in a couple of months.
Hopefully nobody gets hurt in the meantime.
It's use was limited to livestock in SA and that's why we only had that variant. In other countries it's a very common cheap drug that's been cleared for human use since the 1980.Rinkals wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:19 am
I think that's only partially correct.
I believe it has been used for the treatment of head lice previously.
Our local AgriForge stocks it (although I believe that they have run out of stock) for use on livestock.
I'm not against its use per se, but I find that there are far too many of these quack cures floating around and I'm disinclined to take medicines without a proper study behind them. I don't even take vitamin pills so I'm fucked if I'm going to be swallowing livestock doses of anti-parasitic cleanses on anecdotal evidence of their efficacy.
Yep all my family in Mooi River and East Griqualand are taking it. But the whole KZN farming community seems to be very susceptible to American conspiracy type thinking. Its the whole farmers lives matters issue which has made them super distrustful and paranoid.Rinkals wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:19 amI think that's only partially correct.average joe wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:02 amYour news on this is old, it's been found to be effective as a treatment and Sahpra approved its use last week after Afriforum and some medical doctors took them to court for blocking something that's been around from the 1980 and was used extensively in Europe and other parts of the world against covid. The problem is people take it preventatively and because previously it was only cleared for animal use we only had the ones for that purpose and the recommended dosage on the bottle was for cattle that weigh a 1000kg.Blake wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:44 am
Unfortunately yes; mostly among older generations and conspiracy theorists.
It's like hydroxychloroquine all over again; again a anti-parasitic drug.
There have been no clinical studies proving its efficacy as a treatment; only some anecdotal stories and a couple of claims of it being a "gamechanger" on WhatsApp...the kind of chain messages that boomers and conspiracy theorists like to spread. Same playbook as hydroxychloroquine...anecdotal stories, WhatsApp messages, and cherry picking of data that completely fell apart when tested in rigorous medical trials. The average person just doesn't understand statistics and probability. They are quick to point out that Covid only has a 1-2% fatality rate, but then exalt a treatment where it seemingly has a 99% success rate and often fudge the remaining 1% to claim 100% efficacy.
Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't...I'll wait for the medical professionals to conclude their studies and publish their findings. The public pressure from these groups have at least forced a study; so we should have some findings in a couple of months.
Hopefully nobody gets hurt in the meantime.
I believe it has been used for the treatment of head lice previously.
Our local AgriForge stocks it (although I believe that they have run out of stock) for use on livestock.
I'm not against its use per se, but I find that there are far too many of these quack cures floating around and I'm disinclined to take medicines without a proper study behind them. I don't even take vitamin pills so I'm fucked if I'm going to be swallowing livestock doses of anti-parasitic cleanses on anecdotal evidence of their efficacy.
Holy shit.Sards wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:03 am Don't know who is more pumped to get back into the water. The boys or me.My eldest has a mate coming over for a sleepover this weekend. The focus is now on checking our gear for some wet sessions. Yesterday we were discussing who was going to use which gaming laptop.( my youngest has a mate over for a play date too. ).
I can't believe we lost 2 months of summer fun.
Forecast for the weekend is late twenties Saturday and Sunday....Bit windy but that wont stop us...good swell will be running at our spot at 2 metres...handyman wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:56 amHoly shit.Sards wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:03 am Don't know who is more pumped to get back into the water. The boys or me.My eldest has a mate coming over for a sleepover this weekend. The focus is now on checking our gear for some wet sessions. Yesterday we were discussing who was going to use which gaming laptop.( my youngest has a mate over for a play date too. ).
I can't believe we lost 2 months of summer fun.
Who knows?Sandstorm wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:12 am Why are those farmers all taking Ivermectin already? Do they already have Covid?
I don’t know know how well the drug works after infection and helps you breathe better again - there are several stories about people coming off oxygen out there - but I do know that it has zero effect when used as a vaccine.![]()
Tell your crazy relatives to wait until they test positive first!
Yes they are dosing themselves as a preventative. Fortunately they're taking human scaled doses.Rinkals wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:17 amWho knows?Sandstorm wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:12 am Why are those farmers all taking Ivermectin already? Do they already have Covid?
I don’t know know how well the drug works after infection and helps you breathe better again - there are several stories about people coming off oxygen out there - but I do know that it has zero effect when used as a vaccine.![]()
Tell your crazy relatives to wait until they test positive first!
I think it's currently being used as a prophylactic around here.
Should sort out any headlice epidemic, though.