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Chilli wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:51 pm Hi Manto.
I'm also HIV-Negative. Coincidence? :think:
How is that liver of yours? :wave:
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Anyone else taking boosters.....?
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Sards wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:37 am Anyone else taking boosters.....?
My brigade makes a pot of tea with ginger, cinnamon, tea, honey and chilli every morning and give me a cup.of it to drink.
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Chilli wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:13 am
Sards wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:37 am Anyone else taking boosters.....?
My brigade makes a pot of tea with ginger, cinnamon, tea, honey and chilli every morning and give me a cup.of it to drink.
:thumbup:

How does it taste
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Chilli wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:13 am
Sards wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:37 am Anyone else taking boosters.....?
My brigade makes a pot of tea with ginger, cinnamon, tea, honey and chilli every morning and give me a cup.of it to drink.
Hangover cure.
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Sards wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:32 am
Chilli wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:13 am
Sards wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:37 am Anyone else taking boosters.....?
My brigade makes a pot of tea with ginger, cinnamon, tea, honey and chilli every morning and give me a cup.of it to drink.
:thumbup:

How does it taste
Bloody nice
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Sandstorm wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:46 am
Chilli wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:13 am
Sards wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:37 am Anyone else taking boosters.....?
My brigade makes a pot of tea with ginger, cinnamon, tea, honey and chilli every morning and give me a cup.of it to drink.
Hangover cure.
If only.........
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Chilli wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:44 am
Sards wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:32 am
Chilli wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:13 am

My brigade makes a pot of tea with ginger, cinnamon, tea, honey and chilli every morning and give me a cup.of it to drink.
:thumbup:

How does it taste
Bloody nice
send me the recipe please
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Sards wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:23 am
Chilli wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:44 am
Sards wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:32 am

:thumbup:

How does it taste
Bloody nice
send me the recipe please
Will do.
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How much fennel shall I add to the recipe?
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Marius van Heerden, previous 800 m SA record holder died of Covid aged 46.

It's a real bastard, this Covid doos.
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Sandstorm wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:29 am How much fennel shall I add to the recipe?
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handyman wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:33 am Marius van Heerden, previous 800 m SA record holder died of Covid aged 46.

It's a real bastard, this Covid doos.
It is really bad.
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Sards wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:23 am
Chilli wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:44 am
Sards wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:32 am

:thumbup:

How does it taste
Bloody nice
send me the recipe please
Done
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Sards wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:23 am
Chilli wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:44 am
Sards wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:32 am

:thumbup:

How does it taste
Bloody nice
send me the recipe please
Just be carefull Sards, it makes you poep the whole day.
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I see the first set of jabs for SA are arriving today, Ramaphosa has a little PR thing at OR tambo
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Hopefull we can have a cold one and swim on the beach from tomorrow.

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Ramaphosa to address the nation tonight at 8pm

Johannesburg - With the first million Covid-19 vaccine doses touching down at OR Tambo International AIrport at 3pm on Monday, President Cyril Ramaphosa is set to address the nation later this evening at 8pm.

Ramaphosa, along with Health Minister Zweli Mkhize and other dignitaries, will welcome the cargo flight from India to great fanfare this afternoon before pronouncing later on the amended lockdown regulations for the month of February.


Tyrone Seale, the acting spokesperson in the Presidency, said tonight’s address was aimed at communicating developments in relation to the country’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

“The address follows meetings in recent days of the National Coronavirus Command Council, the President’s Co-ordinating Council and Cabinet.

“The president’s address will be broadcast and streamed on a range of platforms that are accessible to South Africans and international audiences,” said Seale.

Ramaphosa is expected to address several issues relating to the spread of the coronavirus.

Infections have begun to decline rapidly, with infections now averaging around 4 000 cases a day, compared to the highs of over 20 000 daily cases a day in early January.

The rapid rise of infections from December, which saw daily infections at around 8 000 cases a day after December 16, led to Ramaphosa banning the sale of alcohol for a third time this financial year.


Ramaphosa is also expected to announce whether alcohol sales will be allowed again after liquor traders gave the government seven days to unban the sale of alcohol last Monday.

Heineken South Africa, which distributes alcohol brands such as Windhoek, Amstel, Miller and Soweto beers, has already announced that it will institute retrenchments for 7% of their workforce, while their competitors at the South African Breweries have laid off over 500 temporary staff in light of the persistent alcohol bans and has not ruled out the possibility of retrenchments.

SAB also announced it could no longer invest in CapEx projects mooted at over R2.5 billion in light of the alcohol bans.


Meanwhile, this weekend residents at several Western Cape beaches embarked on protests against the beach ban by flocking to beaches in a mark of civil disobedience.

Ramaphosa is also expected to outline if beaches are to stay closed or not, after they were closed in mid-December as the second wave peaked.

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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 1:12 pm Hopefull we can have a cold one and swim on the beach from tomorrow.

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Ramaphosa to address the nation tonight at 8pm

Johannesburg - With the first million Covid-19 vaccine doses touching down at OR Tambo International AIrport at 3pm on Monday, President Cyril Ramaphosa is set to address the nation later this evening at 8pm.

Ramaphosa, along with Health Minister Zweli Mkhize and other dignitaries, will welcome the cargo flight from India to great fanfare this afternoon before pronouncing later on the amended lockdown regulations for the month of February.


Tyrone Seale, the acting spokesperson in the Presidency, said tonight’s address was aimed at communicating developments in relation to the country’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

“The address follows meetings in recent days of the National Coronavirus Command Council, the President’s Co-ordinating Council and Cabinet.

“The president’s address will be broadcast and streamed on a range of platforms that are accessible to South Africans and international audiences,” said Seale.

Ramaphosa is expected to address several issues relating to the spread of the coronavirus.

Infections have begun to decline rapidly, with infections now averaging around 4 000 cases a day, compared to the highs of over 20 000 daily cases a day in early January.

The rapid rise of infections from December, which saw daily infections at around 8 000 cases a day after December 16, led to Ramaphosa banning the sale of alcohol for a third time this financial year.


Ramaphosa is also expected to announce whether alcohol sales will be allowed again after liquor traders gave the government seven days to unban the sale of alcohol last Monday.

Heineken South Africa, which distributes alcohol brands such as Windhoek, Amstel, Miller and Soweto beers, has already announced that it will institute retrenchments for 7% of their workforce, while their competitors at the South African Breweries have laid off over 500 temporary staff in light of the persistent alcohol bans and has not ruled out the possibility of retrenchments.

SAB also announced it could no longer invest in CapEx projects mooted at over R2.5 billion in light of the alcohol bans.


Meanwhile, this weekend residents at several Western Cape beaches embarked on protests against the beach ban by flocking to beaches in a mark of civil disobedience.

Ramaphosa is also expected to outline if beaches are to stay closed or not, after they were closed in mid-December as the second wave peaked.

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Ek is gesort met brannas, bier en wyn, maar is donners lus vir 'n rampampie, so hoop ons president maak oop vanaand.
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Sedert die lock down begin het , het ek en ma besluit ons drink net op naweke. Spaar baie en is ook gesond.
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The farmers in my brother’s area are fiddling with Ivermectin. Is this a big thing?
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I hope the liquor ban is relaxed, but I also fear for the hospitals which will have to deal with a surge in domestic abuse whilst trying to contain a pandemic.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 1:20 pm Sedert die lock down begin het , het ek en ma besluit ons drink net op naweke. Spaar baie en is ook gesond.
Selfde hier. As mens draf en mountain bike is dit nie so lekker om ekstra gewig rond te dra nie. En die jonger manne wag nie graag vir my nie.
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Fangle wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 1:37 pm The farmers in my brother’s area are fiddling with Ivermectin. Is this a big thing?
It is. I just hope that people are applying the right dosage when using it.
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assfly wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 1:40 pm I hope the liquor ban is relaxed, but I also fear for the hospitals which will have to deal with a surge in domestic abuse whilst trying to contain a pandemic.
I also fear for the hospitals, but a lot of people in the alcohol industry have been laid off because of the ban.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 1:20 pm Sedert die lock down begin het , het ek en ma besluit ons drink net op naweke. Spaar baie en is ook gesond.
Ons ook.
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Dear Oom Cyril,
Please open the beaches and the bottle stores before my Birthday.
Keep the curfew just as it is.

Thanks

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Chilli wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 5:29 pm Dear Oom Cyril,
Please open the beaches and the bottle stores before my Birthday.
Keep the curfew just as it is.

Thanks

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Done! Too late for my local pub though. Owner has bailed. It was a real dive but was a good place to watch rugby. The prohibition period has done my health the world of good though. Blood pressure down, 5kg off the gut and mentally in better shape. As you get older those heavy nights take longer and longer to recover from.
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Don't know who is more pumped to get back into the water. The boys or me.My eldest has a mate coming over for a sleepover this weekend. The focus is now on checking our gear for some wet sessions. Yesterday we were discussing who was going to use which gaming laptop.( my youngest has a mate over for a play date too. ).
I can't believe we lost 2 months of summer fun.
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Fangle wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 1:37 pm The farmers in my brother’s area are fiddling with Ivermectin. Is this a big thing?
Unfortunately yes; mostly among older generations and conspiracy theorists.
It's like hydroxychloroquine all over again; again an anti-parasitic drug.

There have been no clinical studies proving its efficacy as a treatment; only some anecdotal stories and a couple of claims of it being a "gamechanger" on WhatsApp...the kind of chain messages that boomers and conspiracy theorists like to spread. Same playbook as hydroxychloroquine...anecdotal stories, WhatsApp messages, and cherry picking of data that completely fell apart when tested in rigorous medical trials. The average person just doesn't understand statistics and probability. They are quick to point out that Covid only has a 1-2% fatality rate, but then exalt a treatment where it seemingly has a 99% success rate and often fudge the remaining 1% to claim 100% efficacy.

Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't...I'll wait for the medical professionals to conclude their studies and publish their findings. The public pressure from these groups have at least forced a study; so we should have some findings in a couple of months.

Hopefully nobody gets hurt in the meantime.
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Blake wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:44 am
Fangle wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 1:37 pm The farmers in my brother’s area are fiddling with Ivermectin. Is this a big thing?
Unfortunately yes; mostly among older generations and conspiracy theorists.
It's like hydroxychloroquine all over again; again a anti-parasitic drug.

There have been no clinical studies proving its efficacy as a treatment; only some anecdotal stories and a couple of claims of it being a "gamechanger" on WhatsApp...the kind of chain messages that boomers and conspiracy theorists like to spread. Same playbook as hydroxychloroquine...anecdotal stories, WhatsApp messages, and cherry picking of data that completely fell apart when tested in rigorous medical trials. The average person just doesn't understand statistics and probability. They are quick to point out that Covid only has a 1-2% fatality rate, but then exalt a treatment where it seemingly has a 99% success rate and often fudge the remaining 1% to claim 100% efficacy.

Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't...I'll wait for the medical professionals to conclude their studies and publish their findings. The public pressure from these groups have at least forced a study; so we should have some findings in a couple of months.

Hopefully nobody gets hurt in the meantime.
Your news on this is old, it's been found to be effective as a treatment and Sahpra approved its use last week after Afriforum and some medical doctors took them to court for blocking something that's been around from the 1980 and was used extensively in Europe and other parts of the world against covid. The problem is people take it preventatively and because previously it was only cleared for animal use we only had the ones for that purpose and the recommended dosage on the bottle was for cattle that weigh a 1000kg.
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average joe wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:02 am
Blake wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:44 am
Fangle wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 1:37 pm The farmers in my brother’s area are fiddling with Ivermectin. Is this a big thing?
Unfortunately yes; mostly among older generations and conspiracy theorists.
It's like hydroxychloroquine all over again; again a anti-parasitic drug.

There have been no clinical studies proving its efficacy as a treatment; only some anecdotal stories and a couple of claims of it being a "gamechanger" on WhatsApp...the kind of chain messages that boomers and conspiracy theorists like to spread. Same playbook as hydroxychloroquine...anecdotal stories, WhatsApp messages, and cherry picking of data that completely fell apart when tested in rigorous medical trials. The average person just doesn't understand statistics and probability. They are quick to point out that Covid only has a 1-2% fatality rate, but then exalt a treatment where it seemingly has a 99% success rate and often fudge the remaining 1% to claim 100% efficacy.

Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't...I'll wait for the medical professionals to conclude their studies and publish their findings. The public pressure from these groups have at least forced a study; so we should have some findings in a couple of months.

Hopefully nobody gets hurt in the meantime.
Your news on this is old, it's been found to be effective as a treatment and Sahpra approved its use last week after Afriforum and some medical doctors took them to court for blocking something that's been around from the 1980 and was used extensively in Europe and other parts of the world against covid. The problem is people take it preventatively and because previously it was only cleared for animal use we only had the ones for that purpose and the recommended dosage on the bottle was for cattle that weigh a 1000kg.
I think that's only partially correct.

I believe it has been used for the treatment of head lice previously.

Our local AgriForge stocks it (although I believe that they have run out of stock) for use on livestock.

I'm not against its use per se, but I find that there are far too many of these quack cures floating around and I'm disinclined to take medicines without a proper study behind them. I don't even take vitamin pills so I'm fucked if I'm going to be swallowing livestock doses of anti-parasitic cleanses on anecdotal evidence of their efficacy.
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Rinkals wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:19 am
I think that's only partially correct.

I believe it has been used for the treatment of head lice previously.

Our local AgriForge stocks it (although I believe that they have run out of stock) for use on livestock.

I'm not against its use per se, but I find that there are far too many of these quack cures floating around and I'm disinclined to take medicines without a proper study behind them. I don't even take vitamin pills so I'm fucked if I'm going to be swallowing livestock doses of anti-parasitic cleanses on anecdotal evidence of their efficacy.
It's use was limited to livestock in SA and that's why we only had that variant. In other countries it's a very common cheap drug that's been cleared for human use since the 1980.

Just to add, We've been using this on our cattle for ages now and many farmers have used it for treatment of head lice and skin conditions. But I will never recommend anyone take the liquid form meant for livestock orally.
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Rinkals wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:19 am
average joe wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:02 am
Blake wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:44 am

Unfortunately yes; mostly among older generations and conspiracy theorists.
It's like hydroxychloroquine all over again; again a anti-parasitic drug.

There have been no clinical studies proving its efficacy as a treatment; only some anecdotal stories and a couple of claims of it being a "gamechanger" on WhatsApp...the kind of chain messages that boomers and conspiracy theorists like to spread. Same playbook as hydroxychloroquine...anecdotal stories, WhatsApp messages, and cherry picking of data that completely fell apart when tested in rigorous medical trials. The average person just doesn't understand statistics and probability. They are quick to point out that Covid only has a 1-2% fatality rate, but then exalt a treatment where it seemingly has a 99% success rate and often fudge the remaining 1% to claim 100% efficacy.

Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't...I'll wait for the medical professionals to conclude their studies and publish their findings. The public pressure from these groups have at least forced a study; so we should have some findings in a couple of months.

Hopefully nobody gets hurt in the meantime.
Your news on this is old, it's been found to be effective as a treatment and Sahpra approved its use last week after Afriforum and some medical doctors took them to court for blocking something that's been around from the 1980 and was used extensively in Europe and other parts of the world against covid. The problem is people take it preventatively and because previously it was only cleared for animal use we only had the ones for that purpose and the recommended dosage on the bottle was for cattle that weigh a 1000kg.
I think that's only partially correct.

I believe it has been used for the treatment of head lice previously.

Our local AgriForge stocks it (although I believe that they have run out of stock) for use on livestock.

I'm not against its use per se, but I find that there are far too many of these quack cures floating around and I'm disinclined to take medicines without a proper study behind them. I don't even take vitamin pills so I'm fucked if I'm going to be swallowing livestock doses of anti-parasitic cleanses on anecdotal evidence of their efficacy.
Yep all my family in Mooi River and East Griqualand are taking it. But the whole KZN farming community seems to be very susceptible to American conspiracy type thinking. Its the whole farmers lives matters issue which has made them super distrustful and paranoid.
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Sards wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:03 am Don't know who is more pumped to get back into the water. The boys or me.My eldest has a mate coming over for a sleepover this weekend. The focus is now on checking our gear for some wet sessions. Yesterday we were discussing who was going to use which gaming laptop.( my youngest has a mate over for a play date too. ).
I can't believe we lost 2 months of summer fun.
Holy shit.
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:lol:

Oh man....its so disheartening to be on here with all the negative news ....

I commend any attempt at procuring any form of treatment that protects you and your family.

Lets poll it.....who is taking preventative measures beyond social distancing and masks.....?


Me...you know my cocktail and yellow smelly piss.....


What are you all doing...?

BTW we should be celebrating longer trading hours , alcohol and beaches....not drowning in sorrow and conspiracy theories and fear...
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handyman wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:56 am
Sards wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:03 am Don't know who is more pumped to get back into the water. The boys or me.My eldest has a mate coming over for a sleepover this weekend. The focus is now on checking our gear for some wet sessions. Yesterday we were discussing who was going to use which gaming laptop.( my youngest has a mate over for a play date too. ).
I can't believe we lost 2 months of summer fun.
Holy shit.
Forecast for the weekend is late twenties Saturday and Sunday....Bit windy but that wont stop us...good swell will be running at our spot at 2 metres...

my rash vest has somehow moved from the back of my bakkie to my shirts cupboard...Every day I open my cupboard I would see it and long for a session....its going back......

must just make sure all the wetsuits , booties and flippers are all there....and I can rip the plastic covering off my new board and give it a good test this weekend.....wooo hooo
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Why are those farmers all taking Ivermectin already? Do they already have Covid?

I don’t know know how well the drug works after infection and helps you breathe better again - there are several stories about people coming off oxygen out there - but I do know that it has zero effect when used as a vaccine. :crazy:

Tell your crazy relatives to wait until they test positive first!
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Sandstorm wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:12 am Why are those farmers all taking Ivermectin already? Do they already have Covid?

I don’t know know how well the drug works after infection and helps you breathe better again - there are several stories about people coming off oxygen out there - but I do know that it has zero effect when used as a vaccine. :crazy:

Tell your crazy relatives to wait until they test positive first!
Who knows?

I think it's currently being used as a prophylactic around here.

Should sort out any headlice epidemic, though.
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Rinkals wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:17 am
Sandstorm wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:12 am Why are those farmers all taking Ivermectin already? Do they already have Covid?

I don’t know know how well the drug works after infection and helps you breathe better again - there are several stories about people coming off oxygen out there - but I do know that it has zero effect when used as a vaccine. :crazy:

Tell your crazy relatives to wait until they test positive first!
Who knows?

I think it's currently being used as a prophylactic around here.

Should sort out any headlice epidemic, though.
Yes they are dosing themselves as a preventative. Fortunately they're taking human scaled doses.
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