So, coronavirus...

[Calculon]

We have been reliably informed that public health policy is the single most important factor in national death rates.

It’s probably pointless to generalize too much. If you look at countries like Japan, Taiwan, Korea, Vietnam, China, Australia, New Zealand etc, the main factor in their success is quite possibly public health policies which would include shutting down borders early, track and trace, and in China’s case a strict initial lockdown. While I agree that Europe hasn’t done particularly well there is considerable variation amongst European countries when it comes to death rate per capita and it is factually incorrect to say that the US has had less deaths per head than most European countries.

Levels of obesity have a much stronger correlation with death rates.

And, of course;

The coronavirus variant first discovered in Kent may be up to twice as deadly as previous variants, new research suggests.

The more infectious variant, which swept across the UK at the end of last year before spreading across the world, is between 30% and 100% more deadly, a new study has found.

Epidemiologists from the Universities of Exeter and Bristol said the data suggested the variant was associated with a significantly higher mortality rate among adults diagnosed in the community, compared with previously circulating variants.

A higher correlation than PHP? How was that compared? PHP has many factors. In that linked article age has an even higher correlation in those selected countries. My point is that generalizing across so many countries is a bit silly. In some countries if the PHP was ineffective, age and health become more important, and vice versa.


The UK variant is now possibly the dominant strain in many countries. Is it more deadly is it than the South African or Brazilian variant? Does PHP not play a role in the emergence, spreading and establishment of new variants?

[Ovals]

It’s probably pointless to generalize too much. If you look at countries like Japan, Taiwan, Korea, Vietnam, China, Australia, New Zealand etc, the main factor in their success is quite possibly public health policies which would include shutting down borders early, track and trace, and in China’s case a strict initial lockdown. While I agree that Europe hasn’t done particularly well there is considerable variation amongst European countries when it comes to death rate per capita and it is factually incorrect to say that the US has had less deaths per head than most European countries.

Levels of obesity have a much stronger correlation with death rates.

And, of course;

The coronavirus variant first discovered in Kent may be up to twice as deadly as previous variants, new research suggests.

The more infectious variant, which swept across the UK at the end of last year before spreading across the world, is between 30% and 100% more deadly, a new study has found.

Epidemiologists from the Universities of Exeter and Bristol said the data suggested the variant was associated with a significantly higher mortality rate among adults diagnosed in the community, compared with previously circulating variants.

A higher correlation than PHP? How was that compared? PHP has many factors. In that linked article age has an even higher correlation in those selected countries. My point is that generalizing across so many countries is a bit silly. In some countries if the PHP was ineffective, age and health become more important, and vice versa.


The UK variant is now possibly the dominant strain in many countries. Is it more deadly is it than the South African or Brazilian variant? Does PHP not play a role in the emergence, spreading and establishment of new variants?

Well, you could widen the scope of PHP to include almost every aspect that would affect the mortality rate - but I think we were being more specific in this discussion.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... ays-report

No doubt that our Government were slow to act - but the UK - with it's old population, high density of population, high levels of obesity, more dangerous variant etc.. was always going to have a tougher time than many others.

[tc27]

Common sense dictates public health policy has a huge role to play - but its clearly just one of the drivers.

[Raggs]

Czechia is getting absolutely hammered, what's going on there?

[Sandstorm]

Czechia is getting absolutely hammered, what's going on there?

Hot girl snuggling is rife?

[tabascoboy]

Czechia is getting absolutely hammered, what's going on there?

"Instead, the current Czech catastrophe is akin to death by a thousand cuts, a result of dozens of tiny missteps, late decisions and botched public health messages, experts tell CNN."

They failed to learn from events here in the UK then!

[Sandstorm]

Czechia is getting absolutely hammered, what's going on there?

"Instead, the current Czech catastrophe is akin to death by a thousand cuts, a result of dozens of tiny missteps, late decisions and botched public health messages, experts tell CNN."

They failed to learn from events here in the UK then!

They're using university students and even high school kids to help out at Covid hospitals with admissions process, etc. It's insane!

[Lobby]

The EU has now conceded that there is no UK ban on vaccines or vaccine components.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... u-concedes

The Germans don't appear to be too impressed with the EU's approach:

Germany’s ambassador to Britain, Andreas Michaelis, called for an end to the sparring between the EU and UK. Michaelis, a former head of Germany’s diplomatic service, said the relationship had to improve in the wake of disputes over vaccines and the Brexit withdrawal agreement. “It should not continue like this,” he tweeted. “We have important things to do. Jointly!”

[tc27]

Being a sluggish few days for vaccines in the UK.

However it appears AZ has now really scaled up and we should expect 500k a day starting from the 14/15th which will hopefully get the trend moving rapidly in the other direction.

[dpedin]

Common sense dictates public health policy has a huge role to play - but its clearly just one of the drivers.

It is the key one.

If you have a strong and effective PH response and minimise the community transmission of covid19 from the get go then you minimise the spread of the virus and the number of hospitalisations and ultimately deaths. You close borders. You maintain control by focused PH actions to control outbreaks and your health systems can cope with extra demand whilst maintaining other services, This is what successful countries have done. You can then get back to more normality, schools open and the economy gets up and running again. Examples include NZ, Australia, South Vietnam and most of the nordic countries apart from Sweden.

If your public health response fails to control community transmission and the the virus runs out of control then you have greater hospitalisations and deaths. You keep borders open and import additional cases and strains. You then have increased hospitalisations and move to maintaining essential health services only. If you have a population who are older, more obese and greater levels of diabetes then you have a lot more deaths and long covid sufferers. This is what less successful countries have done. You then have continual lock downs and take longer and longer to get back to normal and the economy suffers badly and takes a long time to recover. This is the UK.

PH response is crucial - done well = minimise deaths and economic hit, done badly = lots of deaths and long covid and big economic hit. The other factors will influence the size of the hit in terms of deaths and other health problems and the economic and social cost of any response to the pandemic.

[dpedin]

Czechia is getting absolutely hammered, what's going on there?

"Instead, the current Czech catastrophe is akin to death by a thousand cuts, a result of dozens of tiny missteps, late decisions and botched public health messages, experts tell CNN."

They failed to learn from events here in the UK then!

They're using university students and even high school kids to help out at Covid hospitals with admissions process, etc. It's insane!

Sounds like a failed PH response from their Gov ... or it could be they are all fat and live in the same house?

[Saint]

Being a sluggish few days for vaccines in the UK.

However it appears AZ has now really scaled up and we should expect 500k a day starting from the 14/15th which will hopefully get the trend moving rapidly in the other direction.

Apparently there's some arrangement where 10 million of our 100 million contract with AZ are shipping from SII, with the first shipment already in country and undergoing final testing/approval. The EMA is also apparently auditing SII with the view to include them as part of the EUs supply chains

By all accounts the Novavax factory has been starting to stockpile vaccine since mid Feb, so there's going to be a large amount of additional vaccine in the UK as soon as it gets approved; globally they're targeting 150 million doses a month by mid-April

[Ovals]

Common sense dictates public health policy has a huge role to play - but its clearly just one of the drivers.

It is the key one.

If you have a strong and effective PH response and minimise the community transmission of covid19 from the get go then you minimise the spread of the virus and the number of hospitalisations and ultimately deaths. You close borders. You maintain control by focused PH actions to control outbreaks and your health systems can cope with extra demand whilst maintaining other services, This is what successful countries have done. You can then get back to more normality, schools open and the economy gets up and running again. Examples include NZ, Australia, South Vietnam and most of the nordic countries apart from Sweden.

If your public health response fails to control community transmission and the the virus runs out of control then you have greater hospitalisations and deaths. You keep borders open and import additional cases and strains. You then have increased hospitalisations and move to maintaining essential health services only. If you have a population who are older, more obese and greater levels of diabetes then you have a lot more deaths and long covid sufferers. This is what less successful countries have done. You then have continual lock downs and take longer and longer to get back to normal and the economy suffers badly and takes a long time to recover. This is the UK.

PH response is crucial - done well = minimise deaths and economic hit, done badly = lots of deaths and long covid and big economic hit. The other factors will influence the size of the hit in terms of deaths and other health problems and the economic and social cost of any response to the pandemic.

However - that wouldn't really explain the mortality rate, would it ? - i.e the % of people who contract Covid that then die. Whilst you can't entirely trust all the figures from around the world - it does seem that the UK has a higher moratlity rate, despite having one of the better health systems, than most other countries. And, since we have tested more than any other country, we're almost certainly picking up more cases than elsewhere - which makes our mortailty rate, comparitively, even worse. Age, obesity and a (probably) more deathly variant, seem very likely reasons.

[Flockwitt]

Common sense dictates public health policy has a huge role to play - but its clearly just one of the drivers.

It is the key one.

If you have a strong and effective PH response and minimise the community transmission of covid19 from the get go then you minimise the spread of the virus and the number of hospitalisations and ultimately deaths. You close borders. You maintain control by focused PH actions to control outbreaks and your health systems can cope with extra demand whilst maintaining other services, This is what successful countries have done. You can then get back to more normality, schools open and the economy gets up and running again. Examples include NZ, Australia, South Vietnam and most of the nordic countries apart from Sweden.

If your public health response fails to control community transmission and the the virus runs out of control then you have greater hospitalisations and deaths. You keep borders open and import additional cases and strains. You then have increased hospitalisations and move to maintaining essential health services only. If you have a population who are older, more obese and greater levels of diabetes then you have a lot more deaths and long covid sufferers. This is what less successful countries have done. You then have continual lock downs and take longer and longer to get back to normal and the economy suffers badly and takes a long time to recover. This is the UK.

PH response is crucial - done well = minimise deaths and economic hit, done badly = lots of deaths and long covid and big economic hit. The other factors will influence the size of the hit in terms of deaths and other health problems and the economic and social cost of any response to the pandemic.

However - that wouldn't really explain the mortality rate, would it ? - i.e the % of people who contract Covid that then die. Whilst you can't entirely trust all the figures from around the world - it does seem that the UK has a higher moratlity rate, despite having one of the better health systems, than most other countries. And, since we have tested more than any other country, we're almost certainly picking up more cases than elsewhere - which makes our mortailty rate, comparitively, even worse. Age, obesity and a (probably) more deathly variant, seem very likely reasons.

The info I can find suggests there's a big gender difference, men twice as likely to die as women. Perhaps a dozen pints on a quiet weekend is a factor?

[Saint]

It is the key one.

If you have a strong and effective PH response and minimise the community transmission of covid19 from the get go then you minimise the spread of the virus and the number of hospitalisations and ultimately deaths. You close borders. You maintain control by focused PH actions to control outbreaks and your health systems can cope with extra demand whilst maintaining other services, This is what successful countries have done. You can then get back to more normality, schools open and the economy gets up and running again. Examples include NZ, Australia, South Vietnam and most of the nordic countries apart from Sweden.

If your public health response fails to control community transmission and the the virus runs out of control then you have greater hospitalisations and deaths. You keep borders open and import additional cases and strains. You then have increased hospitalisations and move to maintaining essential health services only. If you have a population who are older, more obese and greater levels of diabetes then you have a lot more deaths and long covid sufferers. This is what less successful countries have done. You then have continual lock downs and take longer and longer to get back to normal and the economy suffers badly and takes a long time to recover. This is the UK.

PH response is crucial - done well = minimise deaths and economic hit, done badly = lots of deaths and long covid and big economic hit. The other factors will influence the size of the hit in terms of deaths and other health problems and the economic and social cost of any response to the pandemic.

However - that wouldn't really explain the mortality rate, would it ? - i.e the % of people who contract Covid that then die. Whilst you can't entirely trust all the figures from around the world - it does seem that the UK has a higher moratlity rate, despite having one of the better health systems, than most other countries. And, since we have tested more than any other country, we're almost certainly picking up more cases than elsewhere - which makes our mortailty rate, comparitively, even worse. Age, obesity and a (probably) more deathly variant, seem very likely reasons.

The info I can find suggests there's a big gender difference, men twice as likely to die as women. Perhaps a dozen pints on a quiet weekend is a factor?

There's all sorts of risk factors, and many of them are not understood. For instance, having had a previous fracture of the hip, wrist, spin, or humerus, can increase your chance of hospitalisation from Covid by 50% in an otherwise healthy 40 year old male. No-one has the first idea why, by the data set is large enough that they're very confident that there's a link

[Ovals]

However - that wouldn't really explain the mortality rate, would it ? - i.e the % of people who contract Covid that then die. Whilst you can't entirely trust all the figures from around the world - it does seem that the UK has a higher moratlity rate, despite having one of the better health systems, than most other countries. And, since we have tested more than any other country, we're almost certainly picking up more cases than elsewhere - which makes our mortailty rate, comparitively, even worse. Age, obesity and a (probably) more deathly variant, seem very likely reasons.

The info I can find suggests there's a big gender difference, men twice as likely to die as women. Perhaps a dozen pints on a quiet weekend is a factor?

There's all sorts of risk factors, and many of them are not understood. For instance, having had a previous fracture of the hip, wrist, spin, or humerus, can increase your chance of hospitalisation from Covid by 50% in an otherwise healthy 40 year old male. No-one has the first idea why, by the data set is large enough that they're very confident that there's a link

I guess that, the better your Health Service, the more 'walking wounded' who are at greater risks , you will have.

[Biffer]

Being a sluggish few days for vaccines in the UK.

However it appears AZ has now really scaled up and we should expect 500k a day starting from the 14/15th which will hopefully get the trend moving rapidly in the other direction.

Apparently there's some arrangement where 10 million of our 100 million contract with AZ are shipping from SII, with the first shipment already in country and undergoing final testing/approval. The EMA is also apparently auditing SII with the view to include them as part of the EUs supply chains

By all accounts the Novavax factory has been starting to stockpile vaccine since mid Feb, so there's going to be a large amount of additional vaccine in the UK as soon as it gets approved; globally they're targeting 150 million doses a month by mid-April

Is that potentially what Nicola Sturgeon WA referring to when she said some of the stocks which will start coming through in the next few weeks will be short dated? Expecting Novavax be approved imminently and we'll start to use that stockpile?

[Saint]

Being a sluggish few days for vaccines in the UK.

However it appears AZ has now really scaled up and we should expect 500k a day starting from the 14/15th which will hopefully get the trend moving rapidly in the other direction.

Apparently there's some arrangement where 10 million of our 100 million contract with AZ are shipping from SII, with the first shipment already in country and undergoing final testing/approval. The EMA is also apparently auditing SII with the view to include them as part of the EUs supply chains

By all accounts the Novavax factory has been starting to stockpile vaccine since mid Feb, so there's going to be a large amount of additional vaccine in the UK as soon as it gets approved; globally they're targeting 150 million doses a month by mid-April

Is that potentially what Nicola Sturgeon WA referring to when she said some of the stocks which will start coming through in the next few weeks will be short dated? Expecting Novavax be approved imminently and we'll start to use that stockpile?

Honestly not sure what to make out of anything that Nicola utters. But I expect that most AZ supply in the near term will be for delivering 2nd dose. I'm group 10, so due for a first dose sometime April (maybe early May), and think it's a strong likelihood I'm getting Novovax

[Un Pilier]

However - that wouldn't really explain the mortality rate, would it ? - i.e the % of people who contract Covid that then die. Whilst you can't entirely trust all the figures from around the world - it does seem that the UK has a higher moratlity rate, despite having one of the better health systems, than most other countries. And, since we have tested more than any other country, we're almost certainly picking up more cases than elsewhere - which makes our mortailty rate, comparitively, even worse. Age, obesity and a (probably) more deathly variant, seem very likely reasons.

The info I can find suggests there's a big gender difference, men twice as likely to die as women. Perhaps a dozen pints on a quiet weekend is a factor?

There's all sorts of risk factors, and many of them are not understood. For instance, having had a previous fracture of the hip, wrist, spin, or humerus, can increase your chance of hospitalisation from Covid by 50% in an otherwise healthy 40 year old male. No-one has the first idea why, by the data set is large enough that they're very confident that there's a link

That’s fascinating- hadn’t seen that before. Even happier I have had my first jab!

[tc27]

Its being rumoured for a while that every adult could get vaccinated by the end of May.
And now devolved leaders (who are briefed by the government) seem to be confirming.

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/covid ... ses-908118

[dpedin]

Apparently there's some arrangement where 10 million of our 100 million contract with AZ are shipping from SII, with the first shipment already in country and undergoing final testing/approval. The EMA is also apparently auditing SII with the view to include them as part of the EUs supply chains

By all accounts the Novavax factory has been starting to stockpile vaccine since mid Feb, so there's going to be a large amount of additional vaccine in the UK as soon as it gets approved; globally they're targeting 150 million doses a month by mid-April

Is that potentially what Nicola Sturgeon WA referring to when she said some of the stocks which will start coming through in the next few weeks will be short dated? Expecting Novavax be approved imminently and we'll start to use that stockpile?

Honestly not sure what to make out of anything that Nicola utters. But I expect that most AZ supply in the near term will be for delivering 2nd dose. I'm group 10, so due for a first dose sometime April (maybe early May), and think it's a strong likelihood I'm getting Novovax

She would have said more but has been asked to keep future numbers of vaccines secret by the UK Gov, hence the vague info rather than the detail. Remember the stushie about the plan they published then pulled? If you're pissed off with the lack of data then its the UK Gov intention to keep it that way. If anyone has the original doc before it was pulled then that will probably tell us when the supply is supposed to ramp up again. This was all known some weeks ago.

[Saint]

Is that potentially what Nicola Sturgeon WA referring to when she said some of the stocks which will start coming through in the next few weeks will be short dated? Expecting Novavax be approved imminently and we'll start to use that stockpile?

Honestly not sure what to make out of anything that Nicola utters. But I expect that most AZ supply in the near term will be for delivering 2nd dose. I'm group 10, so due for a first dose sometime April (maybe early May), and think it's a strong likelihood I'm getting Novovax

She would have said more but has been asked to keep future numbers of vaccines secret by the UK Gov, hence the vague info rather than the detail. Remember the stushie about the plan they published then pulled? If you're pissed off with the lack of data then its the UK Gov intention to keep it that way. If anyone has the original doc before it was pulled then that will probably tell us when the supply is supposed to ramp up again. This was all known some weeks ago.

I mean that I have no idea what Nicola is ever referring to. She regularly makes statements that simply don't stand up to scrutiny (not unlike most politicians) but seems to get a free pass on most of it

[Hal Jordan]

Do we have any idea on the chance of getting Covid for a less than fit forty something who has had a wrist injury?

Just asking for a friend.

[dpedin]

Honestly not sure what to make out of anything that Nicola utters. But I expect that most AZ supply in the near term will be for delivering 2nd dose. I'm group 10, so due for a first dose sometime April (maybe early May), and think it's a strong likelihood I'm getting Novovax

She would have said more but has been asked to keep future numbers of vaccines secret by the UK Gov, hence the vague info rather than the detail. Remember the stushie about the plan they published then pulled? If you're pissed off with the lack of data then its the UK Gov intention to keep it that way. If anyone has the original doc before it was pulled then that will probably tell us when the supply is supposed to ramp up again. This was all known some weeks ago.

I mean that I have no idea what Nicola is ever referring to. She regularly makes statements that simply don't stand up to scrutiny (not unlike most politicians) but seems to get a free pass on most of it

I thought the post from Biffer re what she said was relatively clear. Free pass ... unlike the Blonde Bumblecunt who has 'misled' the House at every PMQs for the last 3 weeks and has clearly broken the Ministerial Code? You may not understand what Wee Nic is saying but it is blindingly obvious that the BB is, as one of his predecessors says is 'economical with the truth', when in PMQs. I thought the Lewis Goodall reporting of it on Newsnight last night was very to the point. Try this website ..
https://boris-johnson-lies.com

[tc27]

Misleading Parliament is a resigning offence....but presumably as long as Johnson mumbles something about not being able to recall or remember this or that he'll be fine?

Anyway..the reasons for keeping the supply schedule confidential are obvious given the last few weeks of remarks and behaviour by some EU based politicians. I'm prepared to believe the SG publishing it was a mistake rather than a more sinister attempt to undermine the UK government (at the risk of peoples lives) but who knows?

[dpedin]

Misleading Parliament is a resigning offence....but presumably as long as Johnson mumbles something about not being able to recall or remember this or that he'll be fine?

Anyway..the reasons for keeping the supply schedule confidential are obvious given the last few weeks of remarks and behaviour by some EU based politicians. I'm prepared to believe the SG publishing it was a mistake rather than a more sinister attempt to undermine the UK government (at the risk of peoples lives) but who knows?

Ha ha ha ... you'll be telling me that once I have had the vaccine Bill Gates will be monitoring how often I go to the loo next! Sounds like you have a Piers Morgan fixation syndrome.

[Slick]

dpedin, never change

Could I ask you and Biffer a serious question, not political?

We do seem to be falling further back with our vaccinations in Scotland, is this the case? I heard from neighbours last night that many of the 60-65 group in Edinburgh have been sent a letter this week to say their jabs are due but with no time or date (in error apparently) meaning they are having to call a really busy switchboard and delaying things.

[tc27]

Misleading Parliament is a resigning offence....but presumably as long as Johnson mumbles something about not being able to recall or remember this or that he'll be fine?

Anyway..the reasons for keeping the supply schedule confidential are obvious given the last few weeks of remarks and behaviour by some EU based politicians. I'm prepared to believe the SG publishing it was a mistake rather than a more sinister attempt to undermine the UK government (at the risk of peoples lives) but who knows?

Ha ha ha ... you'll be telling me that once I have had the vaccine Bill Gates will be monitoring how often I go to the loo next! Sounds like you have a Piers Morgan fixation syndrome.

[Mahoney]

Yes, that struck me as a full-on fruitloop response.

[TheNatalShark]

Evil EU continues to block access and talk down the efficacy of the AZ vaccine, wrongly suggesting it is currently causing blood clots in recipients, so should be banned.

Utterly irresponsible.

https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/covid ... ed-austria

[tc27]

Actually the EUs involvement is EMA telling people its safe - its the Danish national agency that's temporarily banned it.

[The Druid]

Actually the EUs involvement is EMA telling people its safe - its the Danish national agency that's temporarily banned it.

Denmark has temporarily suspended AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine shots after reports of cases of blood clots forming, including one in Denmark, Danish authorities said on Thursday.
They did not say how many reports of blood clots there had been, but Austria has stopped using a batch of AstraZeneca shots while investigating a death from coagulation disorders and an illness from a pulmonary embolism.
They said six other European countries had halted the use of a vaccine batch from AstraZeneca.

https://www.euronews.com/2021/03/11/den ... lot-report
And yet the EU are still trying to shaft the UK over Alleged ban on vaccine exports.

[Paddington Bear]

Do we have any idea on the chance of getting Covid for a less than fit forty something who has had a wrist injury?

Just asking for a friend.

Spending a year in lockdown furiously masturbating does not place you above any of the rest of us in the queue, no.

[TheNatalShark]

Actually the EUs involvement is EMA telling people its safe - its the Danish national agency that's temporarily banned it.

I'm going to take this as a compliment as to the development of my skills of subtlety.

I'm playing on the dumb headlines and discussion we've had in the Anglosphere over the last two months that it has been the organisation or EMA position(s) themselves that commented on efficacy or recommendations against over 55/65 rollouts, and that they are responsible for uptake failures. When the reality is opposite.

[TheNatalShark]

And yet the EU are still trying to shaft the UK over Alleged ban on vaccine exports.

Exhibit A.

Denmark suspends = EU has negative position

[Biffer]

dpedin, never change

Could I ask you and Biffer a serious question, not political?

We do seem to be falling further back with our vaccinations in Scotland, is this the case? I heard from neighbours last night that many of the 60-65 group in Edinburgh have been sent a letter this week to say their jabs are due but with no time or date (in error apparently) meaning they are having to call a really busy switchboard and delaying things.

34-5% of population in UK, 33% in Scotland, same timescales as the rest of the UK for completing the JCVI groups, so I don't think so. I think there can be criticisms both sides of the border - areas of England still have much lower numbers of care home staff vaccinated than Scotland for example - so I don't think the broad percentages are worth pinning badges on.

[Biffer]

Honestly not sure what to make out of anything that Nicola utters. But I expect that most AZ supply in the near term will be for delivering 2nd dose. I'm group 10, so due for a first dose sometime April (maybe early May), and think it's a strong likelihood I'm getting Novovax

She would have said more but has been asked to keep future numbers of vaccines secret by the UK Gov, hence the vague info rather than the detail. Remember the stushie about the plan they published then pulled? If you're pissed off with the lack of data then its the UK Gov intention to keep it that way. If anyone has the original doc before it was pulled then that will probably tell us when the supply is supposed to ramp up again. This was all known some weeks ago.

I mean that I have no idea what Nicola is ever referring to. She regularly makes statements that simply don't stand up to scrutiny (not unlike most politicians) but seems to get a free pass on most of it

I just found the short dated thing a bit odd.

[Slick]

dpedin, never change

Could I ask you and Biffer a serious question, not political?

We do seem to be falling further back with our vaccinations in Scotland, is this the case? I heard from neighbours last night that many of the 60-65 group in Edinburgh have been sent a letter this week to say their jabs are due but with no time or date (in error apparently) meaning they are having to call a really busy switchboard and delaying things.

34-5% of population in UK, 33% in Scotland, same timescales as the rest of the UK for completing the JCVI groups, so I don't think so. I think there can be criticisms both sides of the border - areas of England still have much lower numbers of care home staff vaccinated than Scotland for example - so I don't think the broad percentages are worth pinning badges on.

Cheers, that is good to hear. Just seems slower but obviously not from those figures!

[Saint]

Do we have any idea on the chance of getting Covid for a less than fit forty something who has had a wrist injury?

Just asking for a friend.

Seen the funny answers, but that;s just regular Group 10.

Based on your profile, you are in priority Group 10. Given an uptake of 75%, there are between 4,816,849 and 9,572,351 people in front of you in the queue for a first dose of COVID vaccine across the UK.
Given a vaccination rate of 2,465,155 a week and an uptake of 75%, you should expect to receive your first dose of vaccine between 07/04/2021 and 04/05/2021.

You should then get your second dose by between 30/06/2021 and 27/07/2021.

That's based on the average rate over the last 7 days, so if we really do see a large influx of doses over the next week then the dates will come forward significantly

[mat the expat]

The Vaccine rollout here has been stuffed up not ending in March but now October- December.

No OS trips out of Oz this year