Welsh switch from blaming ref to blaming player(s)

[Torquemada 1420]

https://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/6-nation ... tory.shtml

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... e-20225985



You can take the boi out of the valleys but.......

[GogLais]

So we have trolls like every other country, big deal. I don’t think anyone in NPR has moaned about France’s win but if posting this sort of rubbish makes you feel better then carry on I suppose.

[Torquemada 1420]

So we have trolls like every other country, big deal. I don’t think anyone in NPR has moaned about France’s win but if posting this sort of rubbish makes you feel better then carry on I suppose.

1) The key point is the trolls targeting their own players. Not the same as the death threats Genge received from Welsh social meejuh users where the target was opposition.

2) NPR is tiny. How many Welsh posters? 10? Highly representative.

3) And what relevance is that anyway? I posted it as something rugby related having seen it on Midol (a little bigger than NPR and they thought is was newsworthy) and then on WalesOnLine which, presumably, thought the same. Maybe you should email both news agencies and voice your concerns about publishing rubbish simply to make them feel better?

[Slick]

What is going on with you?

[SaintK]

https://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/6-nation ... tory.shtml

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... e-20225985



You can take the boi out of the valleys but.......

Probably Clive losing his rag again

[GogLais]

So we have trolls like every other country, big deal. I don’t think anyone in NPR has moaned about France’s win but if posting this sort of rubbish makes you feel better then carry on I suppose.

1) The key point is the trolls targeting their own players. Not the same as the death threats Genge received from Welsh social meejuh users where the target was opposition.

2) NPR is tiny. How many Welsh posters? 10? Highly representative.

3) And what relevance is that anyway? I posted it as something rugby related having seen it on Midol (a little bigger than NPR and they thought is was newsworthy) and then on WalesOnLine which, presumably, thought the same. Maybe you should email both news agencies and voice your concerns about publishing rubbish simply to make them feel better?

Trolls aren’t known for their discrimination in who they attack as a visit to Everton FC’s forum would show. I expect the likes of WoL to publish attention seeking shit stirring bollocks but I thought better of this place.

[Torquemada 1420]

Trolls aren’t known for their discrimination in who they attack as a visit to Everton FC’s forum would show. I expect the likes of WoL to publish attention seeking shit stirring bollocks but I thought better of this place.

I'm actually flabbergasted. I can't speculate on WOL but I can be sure Midol wasn't publishing it for sh*t stirring. Quite the reverse and the French side sent messages of support.

And highlighting a wendyball forum!
a) Routine scumbag behaviour from wendyball "fans". Who'd have though it eh?
b) But worse, you appear to be indicating that you think this is normal. Ergo, you think such behaviour should be ignored?

[Niegs]

I've never really thought about it until seeing that collection of tweets, but I wonder how athletes filter out that sort of garbage? I'm a big fan of Conan O'Brien and he says he never looks at tweets aimed at him, just sends a funny messages out or advertises the show.

I imagine athletes are using it to connect with mates in sport and in real life, so you'd have to see the personal attacks, right?

... imagine being such a dickhead/obsessed with sport that you'd personally call out an athlete with something so hateful. I've only ever @'d someone twice and it was completely 'this lad should be in the side' type thing, both times got a 'like'

[Torquemada 1420]

I've never really thought about it until seeing that collection of tweets, but I wonder how athletes filter out that sort of garbage? I'm a big fan of Conan O'Brien and he says he never looks at tweets aimed at him, just sends a funny messages out or advertises the show.

I imagine athletes are using it to connect with mates in sport and in real life, so you'd have to see the personal attacks, right?

... imagine being such a dickhead/obsessed with sport that you'd personally call out an athlete with something so hateful. I've only ever @'d someone twice and it was completely 'this lad should be in the side' type thing, both times got a 'like'

In part, I lack sympathy with celebrities who use such media tools. Clearly a large motivation for being on there is "look at me. I want to be adored" but if you are going to expose yourself that deeply then you have to expect to attract the loons too.

I don't use any of these things so don't know if the likes of Twatter have private group settings which would facilitate your point of "athletes are using it to connect with mates in sport and in real life"?

[GogLais]

Trolls aren’t known for their discrimination in who they attack as a visit to Everton FC’s forum would show. I expect the likes of WoL to publish attention seeking shit stirring bollocks but I thought better of this place.

I'm actually flabbergasted. I can't speculate on WOL but I can be sure Midol wasn't publishing it for sh*t stirring. Quite the reverse and the French side sent messages of support.

And highlighting a wendyball forum!
a) Routine scumbag behaviour from wendyball "fans". Who'd have though it eh?
b) But worse, you appear to be indicating that you think this is normal. Ergo, you think such behaviour should be ignored?

If I knew where to look I’m sure I could start a thread about something unpleasant and rugby related that someone from most, maybe all, countries had said or posted. But why would I bother?

[Sandstorm]

What is going on with you?

Good question, lockdown has made him even more of a nutter.

[Torquemada 1420]

If I knew where to look I’m sure I could start a thread about something unpleasant and rugby related that someone from most, maybe all, countries had said or posted. But why would I bother?

So, you'd struggle to find the very thing you attribute as being routine amongst all nations? I like your defence style counsel. Would you like to approach the bench because your client would like a word.

Presumably all the press internationally that picked up on this decided either
- it was voluminous beyond the normal troll noise associated with any nation
- or it was of a degree significantly higher to merit flagging it

What da ya reckon?

[GogLais]

If I knew where to look I’m sure I could start a thread about something unpleasant and rugby related that someone from most, maybe all, countries had said or posted. But why would I bother?

So, you'd struggle to find the very thing you attribute as being routine amongst all nations? I like your defence style counsel. Would you like to approach the bench because your client would like a word.

Presumably all the press internationally that picked up on this decided either
- it was voluminous beyond the normal troll noise associated with any nation
- or it was of a degree significantly higher to merit flagging it

What da ya reckon?

I’d in your words struggle to find it because it’s not a part of the internet I visit. If you’re saying us Welsh are unique in this aspect then so be it. Maybe the press decided it was a good story because it would go online and carry on the argument.

[Uncle fester]

I've never really thought about it until seeing that collection of tweets, but I wonder how athletes filter out that sort of garbage? I'm a big fan of Conan O'Brien and he says he never looks at tweets aimed at him, just sends a funny messages out or advertises the show.

I imagine athletes are using it to connect with mates in sport and in real life, so you'd have to see the personal attacks, right?

... imagine being such a dickhead/obsessed with sport that you'd personally call out an athlete with something so hateful. I've only ever @'d someone twice and it was completely 'this lad should be in the side' type thing, both times got a 'like'

Stockdale spoke about the effect criticism on social media had on him.
It's not right really but players need to accept that they need to be careful in how they use social media.

[Begbie]

I've never really thought about it until seeing that collection of tweets, but I wonder how athletes filter out that sort of garbage? I'm a big fan of Conan O'Brien and he says he never looks at tweets aimed at him, just sends a funny messages out or advertises the show.

I imagine athletes are using it to connect with mates in sport and in real life, so you'd have to see the personal attacks, right?

... imagine being such a dickhead/obsessed with sport that you'd personally call out an athlete with something so hateful. I've only ever @'d someone twice and it was completely 'this lad should be in the side' type thing, both times got a 'like'

Stockdale spoke about the effect criticism on social media had on him.
It's not right really but players need to accept that they need to be careful in how they use social media.

I'm sure Stuart Hogg mentioned the negative effects of social media during an interview not that long ago. I think he sacked it off and now a PR team handle all his social media now.

[Torquemada 1420]

I’d in your words struggle to find it because it’s not a part of the internet I visit. If you’re saying us Welsh are unique in this aspect then so be it. Maybe the press decided it was a good story because it would go online and carry on the argument.

Yeah. Now you are bending what has been said. I doubt anyone would suggest the Welsh were unique (because all absolutisms are wrong........ see what I did there?) but the fact remains that the nature of this particular behaviour was enough to hit intl media.

You may have some point in regards the last bit i.e. the death threats against Genge were brought up in the English media (IIRC) and so it could be that journos were looking for the theme. It could also be that the WRU brought it up themselves!
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... e-20225985