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Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:02 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Toulouse a classy team. Will take some team to beat them.
@ Torq the ref was good, Counter ref bashing from me.
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:03 pm
by sockwithaticket
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 3:56 pm
Well both games have ended up with lopsided scores but expect the next 2 to be tight.
I dunno, Exeter could really get blown away.
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:03 pm
by Torquemada 1420
TheFrog wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:00 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 3:54 pm
Dupont, Meafou and Ramos with world class performances today.
I've never rated Bosch at FH but FM he's a huge threat in open play. My favourite non-Fre player, Am, was surprisingly disappointing.
Meafou in blue will be a huge improvement from Willemse.
Ramos is growing in confidence. Jaminet will be second choice as long as Ramos plays at this level.
Agree: Ramos always been a confidence player and at the moment he is playing the best rugby of his life. Rumours are that Jaminet is already on his way out at end of season. Possibly to Toulon.
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:06 pm
by TheFrog
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:03 pm
TheFrog wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:00 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 3:54 pm
Dupont, Meafou and Ramos with world class performances today.
I've never rated Bosch at FH but FM he's a huge threat in open play. My favourite non-Fre player, Am, was surprisingly disappointing.
Meafou in blue will be a huge improvement from Willemse.
Ramos is growing in confidence. Jaminet will be second choice as long as Ramos plays at this level.
Agree: Ramos always been a confidence player and at the moment he is playing the best rugby of his life. Rumours are that Jaminet is already on his way out at end of season. Possibly to Toulon.
I have never rated Jaminet highly. Amazing athlete but little rugby IQ.
Under the Galthie system, the 15 has to play 10 regularly Nd Ramos is obviously comfortable in that role too.
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:06 pm
by Torquemada 1420
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:02 pm
Toulouse a classy team. Will take some team to beat them.
@ Torq the ref was good, Counter ref bashing from me.
Won't have much of a chance away to Leinster: at present they aren't some team but THE team. I'd have Leinster as favourites even if the game was in Toulouse.
Just to repeat great effort and spirit by the Sharks. A game with no real niggle (bar the Ramos try/Van Rensburg tackle) and no slowing the game down.

Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:08 pm
by Torquemada 1420
TheFrog wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:06 pm
I have never rated Jaminet highly. Amazing athlete but little rugby IQ.
Under the Galthie system, the 15 has to play 10 regularly Nd Ramos is obviously comfortable in that role too.
Under Galthie system, 15 has to be a reliable dead ball kicker which Ntamack is not. Dupont is perfectly capable of playing back up 10 if required but yeah, Ramos clearly has the edge over Jaminet there.
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:38 pm
by fishfoodie
After the English Electric Lightning wingers in the last match, this one get we get the, Sopwith Camel Jack Nowell ...
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:42 pm
by Torquemada 1420
fishfoodie wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:38 pm
After the English Electric Lightning wingers in the last match, this one get we get the, Sopwith Camel Jack Nowell ...
Just thinking this is a spacker-fest in comparison so far. Mind you our Lightning isn't running at present anyway

Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:45 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:52 pm
by fishfoodie
Two very limited game plans on offer so far
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:53 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Kerrist, Toulouse would have run in 100 against the Stormers.
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:54 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Pathetic defending.
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:54 pm
by SaintK
fishfoodie wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:38 pm
After the English Electric Lightning wingers in the last match, this one get we get the, Sopwith Camel Jack Nowell ...
Good finish for his try mind
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:55 pm
by _Os_
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:53 pm
Kerrist, Toulouse would have run in 100 against the Stormers.
Ja, Stomps are not exactly looking shit hot.
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:56 pm
by Paddington Bear
fishfoodie wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:38 pm
After the English Electric Lightning wingers in the last match, this one get we get the, Sopwith Camel Jack Nowell ...
Sopwith Camel got the job done as I recall, much like Nowell did there
Watching on my laptop in deepest Gloucestershire, how do people live with wifi this poor? No wonder men from such a beautiful county turn into the gremlins that inhabit the Shed…
Exeter looking much the better from the pixels I’m seeing
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:58 pm
by Torquemada 1420
The winners of LaR v Sarries have a bye to the final.
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:01 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:56 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:38 pm
After the English Electric Lightning wingers in the last match, this one get we get the, Sopwith Camel Jack Nowell ...
Sopwith Camel got the job done as I recall, much like Nowell did there
Watching on my laptop in deepest Gloucestershire, how do people live with wifi this poor? No wonder men from such a beautiful county turn into the gremlins that inhabit the Shed…
Exeter looking much the better from the pixels I’m seeing
Camels were highly manoeuvrable

Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:02 pm
by Torquemada 1420
FM, this lot are a complete clownshow.
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:02 pm
by sockwithaticket
This is the most dangerous Chiefs have looked all season. Wtf is up with the Stomers?
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:03 pm
by Sards
Stormers having a mare at the back....
They better wake up quickly from this slumber
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:03 pm
by PCPhil
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:58 pm
The winners of LaR v Sarries have a bye to the final.
Only listening on Radio but don’t think anyone gets a bye in the latter stages.
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:06 pm
by Torquemada 1420
PCPhil wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:03 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:58 pm
The winners of LaR v Sarries have a bye to the final.
Only listening on Radio but don’t think anyone gets a bye in the latter stages.
A bye would be a tougher challenge. Anyway, it's Exeter through. How TAF are the Stormers 2nd in the URC? Worst team I've seen anywhere all season. Utterly clueless in every aspect of play.
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:06 pm
by Chilli
At least the $harks waited till they had played 50 minutes before bending over,
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:08 pm
by _Os_
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:06 pm
PCPhil wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:03 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:58 pm
The winners of LaR v Sarries have a bye to the final.
Only listening on Radio but don’t think anyone gets a bye in the latter stages.
A bye would be a tougher challenge. Anyway, it's Exeter through. How TAF are the Stormers 2nd in the URC? Worst team I've seen anywhere all season. Utterly clueless in every aspect of play.
Worst half from the Stomps in years I reckon.
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:14 pm
by Torquemada 1420
EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:11 pm
With our injury list Toulouse now clear favorites
Shows some promise but must try harder.
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:16 pm
by _Os_
Delport correct on the comms, Stormers had no answer to Exeter's possession based game. Deon Fourie out, which is the main Stomp weapon against that game plan.
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:17 pm
by Torquemada 1420
_Os_ wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:16 pm
Delport correct on the comms, Stormers had no answer to Exeter's possession based game. Deon Fourie out, which is the main Stomp weapon against that game plan.
Exeter have done very little but against farcical play, it's been more than enough.
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:19 pm
by _Os_
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:17 pm
_Os_ wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:16 pm
Delport correct on the comms, Stormers had no answer to Exeter's possession based game. Deon Fourie out, which is the main Stomp weapon against that game plan.
Exeter have done very little but against farcical play, it's been more than enough.
The Exeter try off the lineout identifying a weakness in the Stomp lineout positioning on defence, was good.
Not a great half for the neutral spectator otherwise.
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:21 pm
by SaintK
_Os_ wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:16 pm
Delport correct on the comms, Stormers had no answer to Exeter's possession based game. Deon Fourie out, which is the main Stomp weapon against that game plan.
Commentator also wondered if their long winded journey to the UK may have had an effect
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:27 pm
by _Os_
SaintK wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:21 pm
_Os_ wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:16 pm
Delport correct on the comms, Stormers had no answer to Exeter's possession based game. Deon Fourie out, which is the main Stomp weapon against that game plan.
Commentator also wondered if their long winded journey to the UK may have had an effect
That was the other guy and Delport replied to him that the Stomps have been made to work on defence and listed the tackle counts. I don't really buy travel stuff so much, it's much less than in Super Rugby (north/south travel in basically the same time zone, and short tours). If the SA teams and players start talking about travel then I'll take it seriously, but I've seen nothing much from them yet.
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:33 pm
by Torquemada 1420
I'm out of this sh*tfest. Will save eyes for later game.
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:35 pm
by Paddington Bear
What is the Afrikaans for ‘manshamed’?
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:41 pm
by Biffer
I thought the South Africans were going to show us all how this tournament should be played?
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:51 pm
by CM11
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:06 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:02 pm
Toulouse a classy team. Will take some team to beat them.
@ Torq the ref was good, Counter ref bashing from me.
Won't have much of a chance away to Leinster: at present they aren't some team but THE team. I'd have Leinster as favourites even if the game was in Toulouse.
Just to repeat great effort and spirit by the Sharks. A game with no real niggle (bar the Ramos try/Van Rensburg tackle) and no slowing the game down.
Toulouse can definitely beat Leinster. Especially without Sexton. Lowe could be out and Baird almost definitely is while we don't know the extent of VDF's injury.
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:55 pm
by sockwithaticket
Stormer's have woken up a bit over the last 10.
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 6:03 pm
by _Os_
Biffer wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:41 pm
I thought the South Africans were going to show us all how this tournament should be played?
Who said that, or is it something you've made up? I didn't think we had any chance at all, there is a financial disadvantage that's so pronounced that we've structured our pro game in the knowledge we lose a lot of the best players at this level. SA sides did a bit better than I expected.
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 6:11 pm
by Uncle fester
fishfoodie wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:38 pm
After the English Electric Lightning wingers in the last match, this one get we get the, Sopwith Camel Jack Nowell ...
Still a decent player.
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 6:13 pm
by Sards
Oh well
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 6:28 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Exeter by far the better team. Stormers played like hard white dog shite. Good luck in the semis Chiefs.
Re: 2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 6:34 pm
by Torquemada 1420
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 6:28 pm
Exeter by far the better team. Stormers played like hard white dog shite. Good luck in the semis Chiefs.
How does dog sh*te go white? Seriously? Never seen that outside of Africa though.